Medellin Reports

[Paulie97]

I too hope sanity will prevail and they find a way to enforce the law. It will save lives and certainly make the option of visiting Colombia much safer.

I do as well, irrespective of what someone with an axe to grind, who claims to be in Medellin claims they heard from a restaurant owner.

[Zeos1]

Was chatting with a restaurant owner today. She said she is not going to enforce vax cards in her restaurant. She says most of her cleints don't want the vax and she has some lawyer friends that are willing defend her should the police or government try to impose it on her.

She also said that a group of high profile lawyers are getting together to try to overthrow the new legislation on the grounds that it is against civil rights and unconsititutional, amongst others words that I couldn't understand. Hehe. Big protests are coming too. They did it before when they imposed laws for PCR tests to enter the country etc. There was legal battles with that. Hopefully sanity will prevail for once in Colombia.

I too hope sanity will prevail and they find a way to enforce the law. It will save lives and certainly make the option of visiting Colombia much safer.

[Golfinho]

I'll try to be brief: to return to the US, one is req to take and be negative on antigen test. At MDE airport testing site I was told I failed, was positive. The testing staff just told me to find an doctor for treatment and quarantine. As I previously wrote, I was asymptotic and did not want to spend another 10 days in MDE, I found a cheap biz class tix on Avianca and Aeromexico that flew me into TIJ airport. No Covid questions asked for or req to show, either Mexican or American customs. And just walked across the border into San Diego and Ubered to SAN Int'l.

Can't say you didn't bust the right move. Can say that to board a plane to Mex (or US) you have to sign attestation to not having been tested positive for covid in the previous 14 days.

[Surfer500]

https://noticias.canal1.com.co/nacio...a-en-medellin/

https://www.noticiasrcn.com/colombia...e-covid-395151

Basically what theyre doing in Austria. Where this idiocy comes from I don't know, it if passes it will go into effect Dec. 16. Since they're thinking about it, it will probably happen.

How the police will enforce it? They won't, another joke.

FYI to any mongers there.

Not sure where your getting the date of December 16 from. According to the articles, the curfew will only be instigated for those un-vaccinated in the event ICU capacity is going to be overloaded. This was how it was done before.

As far as enforcement, yes, it will be a joke in most instances, with a lot of places looking the other way or accepting anything presented to them. What could be a nightmare though would be if they required you to be vaccinated to use the METRO, and they tried to check every rider, versus random checking.

[JustTK]

Basically what theyre doing in Austria. Where this idiocy comes from I don't know, it if passes it will go into effect Dec. 16. Since they're thinking about it, it will probably happen.

Was chatting with a restaurant owner today. She said she is not going to enforce vax cards in her restaurant. She says most of her cleints don't want the vax and she has some lawyer friends that are willing defend her should the police or government try to impose it on her.

She also said that a group of high profile lawyers are getting together to try to overthrow the new legislation on the grounds that it is against civil rights and unconsititutional, amongst others words that I couldn't understand. Hehe. Big protests are coming too. They did it before when they imposed laws for PCR tests to enter the country etc. There was legal battles with that. Hopefully sanity will prevail for once in Colombia.

[Surfer500]

I'm not going to go down the rat hole of numerical ratings for women but for those who are familiar with the southern China barbershop scene I consider that comparable to Centro. .

I missed out on the Centro equivalent when in China and looked for it but was not successful, but did find a couple of brothels, and you talk about a language barrier, it was a challenge beyond belief.

I wish I could claim to be an experienced China street rat like you (LOL), if that's what they call the barbershop patrons there.

[JustTK]

Anyone been to the Centro clubs in the past couple of days?

Are they asking for vax cards on entry? Thanks!

[Paulie97]

https://noticias.canal1.com.co/nacio...a-en-medellin/

https://www.noticiasrcn.com/colombia...e-covid-395151

Basically what theyre doing in Austria. Where this idiocy comes from I don't know, it if passes it will go into effect Dec. 16. Since they're thinking about it, it will probably happen.

How the police will enforce it? They won't, another joke.

FYI to any mongers there.

Here's a quote from the article:

"So far, Antioquia is one of the departments with the highest number of coronavirus cases reported daily throughout the national territory, with about 500 infections every day. For this reason, the department is expected to face a fourth peak of the pandemic soon. "

So yes, societies have every right to protect themselves from people who don't care enough about themselves and others to get the jabs. Yes enforcement will be difficult, but everyone said the same about the smoking bans. It does get old though, the crying about vaccines, mask mandates, etc. Just post the info minus the tears. Thanks for posting the article.

[JohnnyWalker55]

https://noticias.canal1.com.co/nacio...a-en-medellin/

https://www.noticiasrcn.com/colombia...e-covid-395151

Basically what theyre doing in Austria. Where this idiocy comes from I don't know, it if passes it will go into effect Dec. 16. Since they're thinking about it, it will probably happen.

How the police will enforce it? They won't, another joke.

FYI to any mongers there.

[Surfer500]

I'll try to be brief: to return to the US, one is req to take and be negative on antigen test. At MDE airport testing site I was told I failed, was positive. The testing staff just told me to find an doctor for treatment and quarantine. As I previously wrote, I was asymptotic and did not want to spend another 10 days in MDE, I found a cheap biz class tix on Avianca and Aeromexico that flew me into TIJ airport. No Covid questions asked for or req to show, either Mexican or American customs. And just walked across the border into San Diego and Ubered to SAN Int'l, bought a tix on line and flew home sweet home. I did try my best to mask up and not talk to people. Tried to limit any exposure to others. Upon return home, contacted my PCP who referred me to a Covid MD and my main side effect found was my O2 saturation was low at 91% She implored me to get admitted to ER and a Covid ward, where I spent 5 days getting Remdesivir and antibiotics and my insurance was billed $112,000 buck $. Got to live indulge. Luvchicas.

You said you had a sore throat and cough while in Medellin according to your first post, and upon returning to the USA where admitted to the hospital for five days?

Interesting, so did your condition worsen while in transit from Colombia, and did you realize how sick you were requiring hospitalization, as it sounds as though you were pretty sick and you said you were asymptotic at the MDE airport, so what happened to you doesn't sound like it was any fun, and over $20,000 a day for five days in the hospital, sounds incredible what happened to you.

What's also is disturbing was that you were vaccinated as well and got sick. Something to think about as every time I have left Colombia it's a sigh of relief when I get a negative test result, and the thought of what one might have to do in your situation. Your not he first board member here that caught COVID in Colombia, but it was dealt with it in Colombia.

Makes you think about what insurance coverage you have while in Country if at all, and also the treatments available in Colombia versus the USA.

[Jimbox]

Agree.

I know a bunch of people who did it from Canada to US but I agree with you Mexico to US would raise a bunch of red flags. I wouldn't do it but looks like it is possible.

Besides that you could get into a world of shit when you are dragging tons of luggage and they ask you how long you have been in Mexico and you say 1 hour then they find out you live on the east coast somewhere.

[ClownDays]

Besides that you could get into a world of shit when you are dragging tons of luggage and they ask you how long you have been in Mexico and you say 1 hour then they find out you live on the east coast somewhere.

He should just use the Cross Border Express and Cross at Otai Mesa. The CBX is considered a land crossing back into the US, even though it's at the Tijuana Airport. If they ask why he's not flying directly into San Diego, he should just tell the truth, and say that scheduling a flight from Colombia into San Diego was a logistical nightmare. They all have some messed up layovers. If he's a US Citizen they're not going to give him any grief. So many Americans use that bridge, it's not going to look out of the ordinary.

From there, I'm sure there's an Uber or a shuttle that can get him over to the San Diego airport.

[Knowledge]

I was last in Asia about a year before the pandemic. I spent a couple of weeks in Shanghai in 2019. I don't even remember the last time I was in Thailand, maybe four or five years ago. I found food, lodging, and women overall cheaper than comparable commodities in South America. Of course the key word is "comparable" because a five star hotel in Asia is more expensive than a Raudal fleabag that rents by the 20 minute interval. Sticking with the five star hotel example, a place like the Four Points in the Oviedo mall isn't nearly as nice as the high end businessman hotels in Shanghai which cost 25% to 30% less, and yes I've stayed in both. I'm not going to go down the rat hole of numerical ratings for women but for those who are familiar with the southern China barbershop scene I consider that comparable to Centro. Airfare is another whole ball of wax for people coming from the Americas, especially east coast Americas.

What did you find cheaper in Asia than in South America?

Are you talking abut food, accommodations, and women?

I remember Cambodia around ten years ago being cheaper then Colombia all around for food, lodging, and women.

And I can imagine perhaps nowadays some very rural parts of Asia being cheaper than South America as far as food and accommodations, but in terms of women?

So what are you referring to?

[ClownDays]

Would you mind expanding a bit on how you did this? What happened when you tested positive? Did anyone on the ground in Colombia tell you that you had to quarantine? And if so, how were you able to get a flight to Tijuana? I have a trip scheduled in a couple weeks and I'm freaking out about the possibility of being forced to quarantine for two weeks in Colombia. I would appreciate some details on what are the possibilities.

The airlines will not let you get on a plane bound for the US without a negative COVID test.

Sounds like he caught COVID, took a one way ticket to Mexico, which has no COVID testing requirements, and then used a land crossing to get across.

It's not a loophole or anything like that. An American Citizen cannot be denied entry back into the US. All these COVID testing rules are requirements the Federal Government has placed on the Airlines, not Homeland / Customs.

[Mr Enternational]

I think the loophole he is referring to is this:

From: https://mx.usembassy.gov/covid-19-in...ens-in-mexico/.

Besides that you could get into a world of shit when you are dragging tons of luggage and they ask you how long you have been in Mexico and you say 1 hour then they find out you live on the east coast somewhere.