Medellin Reports

[Fun Luvr]

10 dollars is a lot for an advance on a CC. You effectively lost about 12 bucks for the transaction at Servibanca. It doesn't seem like a lot of money until you realize you're paying $12 per transaction which is insane.

I guess we know who is making the big bucks in Colombia. It's the banks, haha.

I think the $10 fee is from his bank, not from the Colombian bank. I've never figured out why people take an advance on a credit card, unless they are in an emergency situation and that is their only option. Not only does he get hit with the $10 fee, he also has to pay interest on that money until he repays it.

[Knowledge]

Why can't you withdraw cash from your bank account back home using a debit card? Some banks credit unions don't charge fees at all when you maintain certain minimum balances. Many guys have accounts with the Schwab brokerage, it's very popular and also has several no fee ATM usage deals. The fee you paid is very high.

I have made 2 credit-card cash advance withdrawals this week.

1.) Bancolombia on Tuesday 1 am at airport: 2,801 per dollar Effective Rate (600 k wd with 13.6 k fee, $10 CC fee) total charged to my CC of $214.22.

2.) Servibanca on Thursday noon in Centro: 2,862 per dollar Effective Rate (780 k wd with 12.6 k fee, $10 CC fee) total charged to my CC of $272.49.

[Eszpresszo]

10 dollars is a lot for an advance on a CC. You effectively lost about 12 bucks for the transaction at Servibanca. It doesn't seem like a lot of money until you realize you're paying $12 per transaction which is insane.

I guess we know who is making the big bucks in Colombia. It's the banks, haha.

No, that's your credit card company back home that is charging those fees, and its nothing to laugh about. Cash advance fees from credit cards are exorbitant as a general rule, unlike a debit card. Typically it involves a flat fee (often around $10), regardless of where you make the withdrawal on your credit card. And if the amount is drawn in a foreign currency, there are conversion fees, as well. Furthermore, the rate of interest for cash advances is also higher than the already exorbitant rate of interest that you are already being charged for regular purchases. At a time when savings accounts yield less than 2% APR, how does a bank justify interest rates in the high single digits? But, I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir on that point. In summary, avoid making a cash withdrawal on your credit card at all costs, or you will incur "all costs".

In the old days, there were American Express offices in major foreign cities where the cardholders could go and get a cash advance on their card accounts at a modest fee. If you held AMEX travelers checks, the exchange rates were among the best. In any case, Amex no longer has any offices in Thailand, Colombia or much of anywhere else, whereas they were ubiquitous in foreign capitals and business centers all the way through the 90's.

[Wolf662]

Have you checked if Eros, the big love motel on the Raudal block, has a daily rate?

Yeah I have exited Eros after 2 am and it not a place you would want to be on foot at all.

[YippieKayay]

I have made 2 credit-card cash advance withdrawals this week.

1.) Bancolombia on Tuesday 1 am at airport: 2,801 per dollar Effective Rate (600 k wd with 13.6 k fee, $10 CC fee) total charged to my CC of $214.22.

2.) Servibanca on Thursday noon in Centro: 2,862 per dollar Effective Rate (780 k wd with 12.6 k fee, $10 CC fee) total charged to my CC of $272.49.

10 dollars is a lot for an advance on a CC. You effectively lost about 12 bucks for the transaction at Servibanca. It doesn't seem like a lot of money until you realize you're paying $12 per transaction which is insane.

I guess we know who is making the big bucks in Colombia. It's the banks, haha.

[JjBee62]

Excellent effort on that response jbee! Appreciate it even though it wasn't my question. Anyhow. I've been contacting some photoppago girls in the 150 k range. They all ask for 50 k upsale for BBBJ. What are you guys paying for BBBJ upsales in energy and new life? Or in general? I think new life is 50 k for a fuck so it would be kinda steep to get a 50 k upcharge for BBBJ there but curious how they roll there with the extras. Anyhow. Is there really no local Medellin active forums? I haven't found any worth a shit.

I never asked and never paid for BBBJ. Frequently I've been asked if I wanted it with or without the condom. My answer is always that it doesn't matter. About half went ahead with the BBBJfk after asking. Overall I think I got BBBJ about 75% of the time, without ever asking.

My opinion is that most don't have a problem with it, but they've learned that guys will pay extra. If you are asking specifically for something extra, you're probably going to get charged for it. The more interested you are, the more you'll pay. I also never specify a time limit with Facebook girls. The few girls who specified 1 hour, I shut them down. Most were happy to stay 2 or 3 hours.

Other guys will tell you to get all the details in writing before. I guess that works for them. To me that is assembly line sex. Except for the one I took on the Metrocable to Parque Arvi, I never needed to do more than tell them the address and how much I paid.

Bonus tip:

The Metrocable from Santo Domingo to Parque Arvi takes about 15 minutes and weekday mornings it's practically deserted. A lot of fun can be had with the right girl.

[PaisaPorFavor]

I personally don't like asking before. A lot of times it just happens naturally. If they insist I mention no propina with a condom. Then I can atleast tip what I feel it was worth. I believe you are right about New Life, I was hit with a large asking price there too. A lot of times I have had the street girls and photoprepagos girls never mention it.

Excellent effort on that response jbee! Appreciate it even though it wasn't my question. Anyhow. I've been contacting some photoppago girls in the 150 k range. They all ask for 50 k upsale for BBBJ. What are you guys paying for BBBJ upsales in energy and new life? Or in general? I think new life is 50 k for a fuck so it would be kinda steep to get a 50 k upcharge for BBBJ there but curious how they roll there with the extras. Anyhow. Is there really no local Medellin active forums? I haven't found any worth a shit.

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[StripperMan]

I have made 2 credit-card cash advance withdrawals this week.

1.) Bancolombia on Tuesday 1 am at airport: 2,801 per dollar Effective Rate (600 k wd with 13.6 k fee, $10 CC fee) total charged to my CC of $214.22.

2.) Servibanca on Thursday noon in Centro: 2,862 per dollar Effective Rate (780 k wd with 12.6 k fee, $10 CC fee) total charged to my CC of $272.49.

[JeraldoRivera]

Excellent effort on that response jbee! Appreciate it even though it wasn't my question. Anyhow. I've been contacting some photoppago girls in the 150 k range. They all ask for 50 k upsale for BBBJ. What are you guys paying for BBBJ upsales in energy and new life? Or in general? I think new life is 50 k for a fuck so it would be kinda steep to get a 50 k upcharge for BBBJ there but curious how they roll there with the extras. Anyhow. Is there really no local Medellin active forums? I haven't found any worth a shit.

[Queens35]

Gentlemen,

Your collective inputs have been so helpful but I really need some more guidance before heading out. Believe me, I have read the forum for the past two years preparing for this trip. Now it looks like I'm finally going. I know the Medellin forum in and out but some clarification from you veterans is needed.

1. It appears that condos will all have front desk staff. Are they cool about girls coming in? I mean, one girl a day is a bare minimum. Will I get a visit from the owner of the apt telling me to slow down, or worse, get out? I know that security is there for my safety but I'd rather not have those long stares and daily reports to the owner.

2. It appears from your reports that the scene is primarily a 'casa' one, in that you enter a place, get shown a line up and so on. Basically it is similar to Europe (Prague, Budapest) and massage scene in North America. Please note that I'm not whining, but as a matter of choice it is not my favorite scene. Just like some of my preferred methods would not be to your liking. I don't like to stand in line with other punters in a small apartment, holding our wieners. I like brothel strip joints like in Tijuana, I would choose brothel strip joints in Prague over apartments if I go there. Therefore that White Mansion (in MDE will be just fine and I don't mind heading to centro to check out the SWs.

3. This is basically a continuation of #2. This might be where I'm totally wrong. From your reports there appears to be a clear delineation between working girls and others. What I mean is that I should not approach every female like I do in Cuba or like guys do in Sosua and around Copacabana? So virtually there's no semi pro scene (Sosua semi pro haha) unless you dig them up on social media?.

Replies to your questions:

1. I know nothing abour condos since I never stay in them. I always stay in the same hotel in Laureles. But I would ask before hand about bringing guests and what their policy is. Also, ask on here as many guys rent the same places.

2. Not sure why you think it's a casa scene. Yes, many guys partake in the casa due to relatively low cost. But I would say that the majority of the MDE scene are independents that come to your hotel / apt or you go to theirs (and it's only the one chica there who sees guys by appointment, so you will never see other guys there, or other girls unless they live / work together-it's very private and discreet, not like what you refer to as "apartments" You can find them thru Facebook, or on one of the many websites (Photoprepagos, Paisasdivinas, Mileroticos, etc).

3. Yes, it's not like Cuba / Sosua where you can walk up to any woman and get a "date". MDE is like any non-sex destination. If you're in a bar or club, you can try to pick up any woman that's alone (make sure she's really alone and her mafioso boyfriend is not in the bathroom-that could end bad for you). If you're decent looking, in shape, can communicate with them, and can get a woman like that in your own country, go ahead and try. Otherwise, stick to the obvious pros.

Walking up to anybody on the street is not recommended in Colombia (except in obvious street walker areas). Again, it can end up bad for you if the wrong person sees you attempt to do it. Yes, the girls on social media are probably half semi-pros (part time hookers is more appropriate) and half full timers. Many work real jobs, and only hook when they need extra cash. Can't help you with how to find them because I don't specifically look for them.

4. I would say that 150 k is the normal / going rate. Some will ask for 200 or more, it's up to you if you want to pay it. Depends on how badly you want her. If you want her more than she wants you, then you will pay more. Many girls on the website I mentioned earlier will take 100-130. I have a real nice chica from one of the sites that charges 130 in her apartment that I have a good time with. As for BBBJ, you have to ask. Many are down for it, especially after the first time. I never understood that logic, that they are willing to take your uncovered cock in their mouth after 1 session because now they "know you". As for anal, again, you just have to ask. GFE is a little harder to gauge. It's not something you can ask for or force. Either she wants to do it or she doesn't. If she likes you, she may get down with it. But even for a first session, most chicas are going to try to please you because they know that the competition is fierce, so they will try to differentiate themselves. Most will kiss (DFK vs LFK depends on the chica- you can ask about DFK beforehand). Most really do try. But there are cold dead fish just like everywhere else. For me, if the personality is good, and she's talkative, it's usually a good session.

[Knowledge]

I think there is a prepay rate on expedia that's $36/ day.

Medellin. Pretty much the same all year, although less rain this time of year. Highs in the 80's. Lows in the 60's. Sun is hot, because of proximity to the equator. Low humidity.

Cartagena. Hot. Highs in the upper 80's, but the humidity makes it feel hotter. Reminds me of home here in Florida. A little more likely to have some rain during the day, but it rarely lasts.

San Andres. Hot and humid, but there is almost always a good breeze, since it's an island. It can be very rainy there, but this time of year I have found the rain to be less frequent (or at least not lasting as long).

[Knowledge]

I like the Barrio Buenos Aires. I sometimes bring girls to the restaurants and the Mercado del Tranvia. Some nights there is entertainment there. I would not stay in a hotel for the same reason Broth Wolf mentioned, it's too far away from our favorite venues. It is not Centro by the way. It's not far from Centro but is the Barrio Buenos Aires. It has a very colorful history.

It puts you a bit further from the action, but you might look into Hotel Paradise Center. It's half a block away from the Bicentenario Tranvia metro station and right around the corner from Mercado del Tranvia, which is a smaller version of Mercado del Rio, a collection of trendy restaurants. The Tranvia line drops you at the San Antonio station. The area the hotel is in is one of the best in El Centro and the rates go from $15 for a single bed to $20 for 2 doubles and a Jacuzzi tub. It's cash only, so you can probably get it for less in person.

Never been to the hotel, but walked and rode past it several times. A few blocks up the hill is a collection of discos and there are lots of small restaurants nearby.

[JjBee62]

Thanks but I need to be real close, I do many laps a day of the strip clubs and redlight blocks and if the VeraCruz / Rauadal girl is real fun / cute I want to walk to my hotel with her.

Have you checked if Eros, the big love motel on the Raudal block, has a daily rate?

[Wolf662]

It puts you a bit further from the action, but you might look into Hotel Paradise Center. It's half a block away from the Bicentenario Tranvia metro station and right around the corner from Mercado del Tranvia, which is a smaller version of Mercado del Rio, a collection of trendy restaurants. The Tranvia line drops you at the San Antonio station. The area the hotel is in is one of the best in El Centro and the rates go from $15 for a single bed to $20 for 2 doubles and a Jacuzzi tub. It's cash only, so you can probably get it for less in person.

Never been to the hotel, but walked and rode past it several times. A few blocks up the hill is a collection of discos and there are lots of small restaurants nearby.

Thanks but I need to be real close, I do many laps a day of the strip clubs and redlight blocks and if the VeraCruz / Rauadal girl is real fun / cute I want to walk to my hotel with her.

[DannyDee]

Thank you JjBee62. Very detailed and informative.

As a very useful recent Cali report states, MDE forum suffers from a lot of chit chat, so at times there might not be any actual reports for 10 pages. And forget about finding a report on Sosua forum. They'll discuss anything but prices and places (the info a rookie seeks the most). I may stand corrected. You open a Sosua forum now and here it is, a detailed report, but usually what I described is a norm. This is because those forums are dominated by seasoned vets who understand each other by simply waving at one another.

The info you gave me is far more valuable because it's current. Although I concede that even if I go 30 pages back, the MDE info won't be dated because this forum is very active.