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  1. #18520
    Quote Originally Posted by TimeToPlay  [View Original Post]
    Word. This is also why almost every apartment building has disallowed short term rentals under 1 month. It is also why I made earlier comments about people kidding themselves if they believe they are blending in. Respect of the culture you are in is always paramount but unfortunately many foreigners don't get it and refuse to learn enough to understand why many Colombians have limited patience with gringo tourists. I have been unfortunate enough to have ridden an elevator up to the now defunct "penthouse" some 13 years ago with two girls and a very unhappy Colombian family. It was uncomfortable to say the least.
    Yup. While prostitution is legal (and widely-practiced) in Colombia, the Colombians do it discreetly. As you point out, bringing Strata 1 putas to a Strata 6 apartment building generally brings the kind of attention we don't want. The upper-class residents in Poblado are rightly upset about many mongers' antics and (like it or not) they have the political pull to do something about it. Always best to keep a low profile wherever we pursue this hobby.

  2. #18519
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    Among all comments, this is one is particularly painful:

    Los extranjeros que vienen a putiar y consumir drogas "baratas" se han vuelto una plaga para los habitantes de los edificios cerca a las diferentes zonas de rumba de Medelln. (...) El control que si debe ejercer la polica, (...) llevar un control riguroso y evitar estas tragedias para los vecinos. El extrajero sabe a que viene y aque se expone, pero los vecinos que invierten sus ahorros en su apto, le queda totalmente desvalorizado!!!! Por no hablar del desfile de "prepagos" en el ascensor y las zonas comunes 24 x 7....

    Que verguenza. This is why upper class hotels never allow guests or do apply high fees. To keep away some types of tourist who are not discreet.
    Word. This is also why almost every apartment building has disallowed short term rentals under 1 month. It is also why I made earlier comments about people kidding themselves if they believe they are blending in. Respect of the culture you are in is always paramount but unfortunately many foreigners don't get it and refuse to learn enough to understand why many Colombians have limited patience with gringo tourists. I have been unfortunate enough to have ridden an elevator up to the now defunct "penthouse" some 13 years ago with two girls and a very unhappy Colombian family. It was uncomfortable to say the least.

  3. #18518
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    No it is okay. Prostitution is legal and it is their culture. Also it is nobody else's business anyway. And besides that, the neighbors can't tell the girl is a hooker.
    I am not speaking about what is illegal, but about what is elegant and what is perceived as trashy.

    Prostitution is legal, but upper class families do not like to have silicon dolls coming and going on the elevator of their condo. It's quite understandable. The quote in my previous post is not surprising.
    Prostitution is widespread, but it does not mean that catholic families accept such coming and going in their austere neighborhood.

    "Prostitution is their culture"?? I wish to report this claim to the catholic family fathers I frequent in MDE (for work), and see how they would react.

    Discretion should be a must, but those who would most need this reminder are not receptive, so to speak.

  4. #18517
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    Que verguenza. This is why upper class hotels never allow guests or do apply high fees. To keep away some types of tourist who are not discreet.
    No it is okay. Prostitution is legal and it is their culture. Also it is nobody else's business anyway. And besides that, the neighbors can't tell the girl is a hooker.

  5. #18516
    For those who've been around and know Medellin-how long has it been since the last publicized social cleansing took place? Do you think the sex tourists who publically flaunt their prostitutes will eventually become somewhat of a target, or just their prostitutes?

  6. #18515
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    Among all comments, this is one is particularly painful:

    Los extranjeros que vienen a putiar y consumir drogas "baratas" se han vuelto una plaga para los habitantes de los edificios cerca a las diferentes zonas de rumba de Medelln. (...) El control que si debe ejercer la polica, (...) llevar un control riguroso y evitar estas tragedias para los vecinos. El extrajero sabe a que viene y aque se expone, pero los vecinos que invierten sus ahorros en su apto, le queda totalmente desvalorizado!!!! Por no hablar del desfile de "prepagos" en el ascensor y las zonas comunes 24 x 7....

    Que verguenza. This is why upper class hotels never allow guests or do apply high fees. To keep away some types of tourist who are not discreet.
    After talking with a lot of Colombians one thing I agree they have a big problem with classism. The elite Colombians don't want to be around Colombians that belongs to a lower estrato. If they somehow stay close they don't have a feeling of being better than the rest (elite) , that is probably one of the other reason upper class hotels charge more for guest, because I do know hotels in Medellin where high end putas visit all the time especially the gym.

    I have talked to a gringo who told me his hotel neighbors girlfriend asked him why bring this low class ho to a hotel, here in Colombia we don't go to estrato 3 so don't bring them in ours. This gringo replied: Your country is lower estrato, I got more money than you and you are a piece of shit and slammed the door in her face.

  7. #18514

    That is disturbing

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    Among all comments, this is one is particularly painful:

    Los extranjeros que vienen a putiar y consumir drogas "baratas" se han vuelto una plaga para los habitantes de los edificios cerca a las diferentes zonas de rumba de Medelln. (...) El control que si debe ejercer la polica, (...) llevar un control riguroso y evitar estas tragedias para los vecinos. El extrajero sabe a que viene y aque se expone, pero los vecinos que invierten sus ahorros en su apto, le queda totalmente desvalorizado!!!! Por no hablar del desfile de "prepagos" en el ascensor y las zonas comunes 24 x 7....

    Que verguenza. This is why upper class hotels never allow guests or do apply high fees. To keep away some types of tourist who are not discreet.
    There has been a "Say no to Sex Tourism" movement and it keeps growing. After living there for 5 months now I see more and more of it. You can see how the locals look at the ones that come down there for short vacations have no discretion. As for devalue, there is the other side of the coin, the gringos are more able to rent out these apartments at a premium so these guys are not losing any money at all, in fact the I can see the money pouring into Medellin each day. I see more mercedes and bmw's. Driving by the local dealers you can see the dealers expanding their lots for the growth in demand. The key thing here is that the gringo's that come down have no and do not apply discretion at all. Colombians really excercise this but you need to have the girls come over in flats and not wearing anything that flags them as prepagos. They can tell just by looking and seeing how these girls act. Sad news to hear and I hope they find out the cause. Another thing to point out is that this is a very affluent area and soon the locals will not tolerate much more. Park Lleras is a streetwalking scene where last year you only saw a handful. The affluent will want some type of policing soon maybe by harassing the girls or some kind. It will happen, just a matter of time.

  8. #18513
    Quote Originally Posted by JamesDandy  [View Original Post]
    And this article with pics of building from minuto30, check out the comments:
    Among all comments, this is one is particularly painful:

    Los extranjeros que vienen a putiar y consumir drogas "baratas" se han vuelto una plaga para los habitantes de los edificios cerca a las diferentes zonas de rumba de Medelln. (...) El control que si debe ejercer la polica, (...) llevar un control riguroso y evitar estas tragedias para los vecinos. El extrajero sabe a que viene y aque se expone, pero los vecinos que invierten sus ahorros en su apto, le queda totalmente desvalorizado!!!! Por no hablar del desfile de "prepagos" en el ascensor y las zonas comunes 24 x 7....

    Que verguenza. This is why upper class hotels never allow guests or do apply high fees. To keep away some types of tourist who are not discreet.

  9. #18512

    Another gringo dead

    Only 27 years old, not sure what happened this time.

    http://colombiareports.com/american-...lin-apartment/


    And this article with pics of building from minuto30, check out the comments:

    http://www.minuto30.com/fotos-en-avanzado-estado-de-descomposicion-fue-encontrado-el-cadaver-de-un-ciudadano-estadounidense-en-hotel-de-el-poblado/418751/

  10. #18511
    Quote Originally Posted by CJackSparrow  [View Original Post]
    I have been around since 1999.1 time I had a serious girl that I could talk to, without any fees for this and that..
    You are not used to talk to them with the same style you write, aren't you?

  11. #18510

    FB girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Dellorto  [View Original Post]
    Is there a FB group or website where I can find the FB girls you're referring to? Or are they girls you collected throughout your mongering trips?

    Thanks for the report.
    I created a FB account with a pic but little personal info about me. Then just searched for girls in Medellin and found a few obvious prepagos. Then searched their friends and found more. Takes a bit of work but not that hard to do.

    Now I have several dozen, but don't know which are any good. I put up a message that I'll be arriving in MDE 1/1 and they have started contacting me. I'll be there a little over a week splitting my time between Jake's and the Mansion. Will report back shortly there after. In the mean time if any SM has a FB girl they'd like to recommend, please PM me.

  12. #18509
    Quote Originally Posted by Dellorto  [View Original Post]
    Motel Ibiza sounds like a nice alternative if I can't or don't want to take the girls back to my place. Is there a FB group of website where I can find the FB girls you're referring to? Or is are they girls you collected throughout your mongering trips?

    Thanks for the report.
    I totally agree. I had wondered what I would do if I was in MDE and had to stay in a regular tourist hotel, with limited guest options. This option is worth considering when you are in a hotel, but still want to go out and party. Take your girl to the Love Motel, early evening. Have a few drinks and some adult fun. Then hit the town until the wee morning hours. Go your seperate ways. I have found it good to "Hit-It" before going out because I am too drunk to do it before sending her home. LOL.

  13. #18508
    Quote Originally Posted by Lefeu  [View Original Post]
    Aah, the voice of reason, simple, logical, and very Cartesian. Voila! Thanks for the wisdom, Mr Ricker.

    Mind boggling how folks insist on telling other people how to enjoy the hobby.
    Right on brotha!

    Great Trip report!

    Thanks.

  14. #18507

    Rip-offs and other thoughts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lefeu  [View Original Post]
    Aah, the voice of reason, simple, logical, and very Cartesian. Voila! Thanks for the wisdom, Mr Ricker.

    Mind boggling how folks insist on telling other people how to enjoy the hobby.
    Amolatina.

    LatinamericanLove.

    A Foreign Affair (also owner of Anastasias or Elenàs Models), but this FA is active in Colombia and Medelíand too.

    I just saw a documentary about FA. They charge for translate services. They charge for everything. The normal price for any service is a 500% above what it should be.

    A guy, good income, clean, but typically fat that americans can be. Anyway, he had send $US9800 corresponding with a girl that reminded of Angelina Julie.

    He went to Ukraine on a FA tour and they vivisted like 4-5 places and some got it together.

    But this guy was heart broken. The fantatsy-girl, 99% sure she had just got payed for publish her photos on AFA, while other, pretending being her corresponded with him.

    As a documentary team was along, they managed to put her forwar and meet this guy, who must have felt being robbed of his whole world of love, erotics. She promised to blaha blaha.

    AFA owner could hardly keep himself from laughing when the reporter told the story and come up with some easy, stupid excuse adding " we are sorry".

    $US 9800.

    I have been around since 1999.1 time I had a serious girl that I could talk to, without any fees for this and that.

    Colombiancupid, Latineuro; they are serious sites, the are liberal in that sense that you can see that a hot girl in lingerie age 22 are seeking men 45-70 yo, so that's the way to say "Hello, gringo, I'm a prepago".

    Colombia; you can have a date with a good looking girl after just exchanging whatsapp, for a cofee, lunch. After an hour, everyday! Russia / Ukraine is 99% rip-off.

    And so much nicer everything. I thought of Russia / Ukraine, but the culture is not for a person that want to become more open, enjoy good climate.

    Latinas, except Argentinas from BS As, not in the north, they are like Colombianas, you can meet them and have fun!

    I think I put together a list of rip-off sites in LA, I come back about that.

    It's so easy to forget that 50 mil pesos is much for 73% of the population that is poor, and it's a fortune for the 23% that live in absolute poverty.

    Keep that in mind. I have meet girls who's family said " jack. We adopt you", I was in a deep depression. Other girls family saw me as Papa Noel and going shopping on my expense was almost the fisrt, and last thing we did, and we had had contact for months, often shyping for hours daily!

    Look at statistics; We have the upperhand, we can practically choose, if you are like me, a middle-aged normal / good-looking guy with a normal 1st world income. Choose among 8's-10's!

    I have broken many of my own rules; but TAKE IT EASY.

    Those girls I have given contact info. To lately, not for a a single penny to myself, but just helping them finding clients that pay more, and give better service, since there is no boss or caa charging them 30-60% of their earnings.

    But those girls are also novia-material; they want to mix being prepago, and have a novio. Just keeping the best clients. Or come to Northern Europe where escorts are very expensive, since we don't have the vast influx of Eastern European girls, like Germany. A Paisa+9-10 can become $US-millionare working here for 6 years.

  15. #18506
    Quote Originally Posted by Lefeu  [View Original Post]
    This motel is clean, high tech, very discreet, and reasonably priced. As the taxi entered the grounds of the hotel, my chick talked to someone via the intercom and she picked a room type. The person on the other side gave us a room number, and the taxi drove us there, dropped us by the door and left. Once inside, the outside door closed. My chick put on music, ordered food, and we raided the fully stocked refrigerator. When it was time, she called the office and had them start the Jacuzzi. I was impressed as everything seemed to work remotely. Moreover, I thought the food was very good, just like in a top parque Lleras restaurant.

    We were there from 9 pm until midnight, both nights and the cost was reasonable, about $60 the first night and $50 the 2nd night, all inclusive, room cost, drinks, food, and tips. What's more amazing, I never saw a face, very discreet indeed.
    Motel Ibiza sounds like a nice alternative if I can't or don't want to take the girls back to my place. Is there a FB group or website where I can find the FB girls you're referring to? Or are they girls you collected throughout your mongering trips?

    Thanks for the report.

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