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  1. #63730
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnS123  [View Original Post]
    I am with you on the fact that no one has a right to fuck anyone based on what they think that person should accept. There is no benefit in being bitter over someone not accepting what you deem they should accept. The same girl who has taken 200,000 COP might get $300 USD. *That same girl might get flown out to the DR, France, or Croatia.

    However, we can also acknowledge idiocy.

    Case in point. Agent 0, Former Wizards NBA star who earned nearly $200 M (this does not include any endorsement money), and now has one of the biggest sports podcasts which will undoubtedly land him a huge media contract if he decides to partner, has more fucking money than anyone who has read this damn forum at any point. And he manages to refrain from gallivanting with and spending excessive amount of money on working girls, because, no matter how you cut it, it would be fucking dumb. Openly talks about it on his streams.

    "Women out here they want the Birkin Bags, they want to eat. Like 3 x a day. Fuck. *They want to go out places and they don't want to go to regular places, they want to go to all the expensive ass places. *Movies, first class tickets to shit, they want to go on vacation. There are a lot of things that come with, you know, when I can just pay $200-$250 and get right to the good stuff."

    He also lays out how he "shops" on Instagram, and his DMs are all hoes. And he laughs at some of their prices, because any sane person would laugh at $5,000, no matter how much money they have.

    So a 9 figure net worth individual doesn't have to wine and dine working girls. To do so is a choice, not a state of normalcy simply because one has FU money. That "level" of paying far more than you need to has nothing to do with having a staggering net worth. Or is it impossible for someone with a stratospheric net worth to do something stupid as fuck with their money?
    If the girl wants to be stupid about how much she will accept then fuck her on to the next one until you find the one who will accept your price and / or your risk-level of service. And the same thing goes in reverse, I'm sure eventually after declining numerous fair offers, she will find some idiot willing to pay $300 usd for some mediocre covered service with a washed up be.

    Tch with bolt-ONS and a botox ass LOL. To each his or her own.

  2. #63729
    I don't have issues with girls getting as much as they can while young with sugar daddies. It's the ones that scam guys online and never met the person that I have problems with.

  3. #63728
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Looks like the only Colombianas you are dealing with are dirt poor ones. Those who have no flooring in their house, starving every day, etc. Thank god, I have met different girls and our paths with the ones you mentioned do not cross.

    The girls I have had arrangements with have flooring in their house, have TVs and computers, and don't have to eat out of trash containers. I have never been asked to buy them a computer, and never offered them to buy one (why would I? Once I was asked to help with repairing one due to the screen damage. I don't buy chicks iPhones and never been asked to buy one. I would only do that If I were in a relationship, there is nothing wrong with buying your GF an iPhone or a computer for her birthday. I can, and do once in a while, buy chicks some sexy lingerie, or a dress. Maybe a sexy perfume. Because I enjoy when the chick I have an arrangement with, looks sexy and smells good.
    Where did you get that from? I just repeated to you, for at least the 20th time, I don't do street girls, whether in El Centro or Parque Lleras. Never have. Even if I did, why would you, or anyone, assume that the girls are starving every day, or have no flooring? Why flooring? That's just so fucking random?

    I know you don't speak Spanish, but do you at least speak English? Because you don't seem able to understand it.

    I'm just baffled here. Eating out of trash containers? I understand what you're trying to do. You're trying to say that I've only fucked homeless women who are in every way disgusting. Right? But that's fucking ridiculous. Other than the occasional casa, which I haven't done in 3 years, and Las Islas, I've almost exclusively used Facebook. Not sure how many homeless women, eating out of trash containers, keep active on Facebook. Do you have any statistics on that?

    I'm trying to keep on subject, but you do make it difficult. Let's start with a simple question. Are you Dramafree? I'm assuming you aren't, but you seem to think you are. Let me refresh your memory.

    Back to the subject, legit college students. Dramafree claimed all of the college students without computers, stated they didn't need a computer, when he asked. I'm assuming he asks because he is willing to buy them a computer. Otherwise, why ask? Would you ask a woman if she needs taxi money and then refuse to give it if she needed it? Answer the question. Do you believe no legit college student would accept the offer of a free computer?
    Nobody mentioned you, until you decided, once again, to jump into a discussion without having any idea what the discussion is about.

  4. #63727
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Who are these guys buying hookers newest iPhones? I don't know a single monger who would do that. We are talking about prepagos, right? If we are, then it makes zero sense to buy an expensive phone to some random hooker that charges you by the hour. Real relationships or some long-term SB-SD arrangements is a different story.
    Who? Guys who think they're in an exclusive SB / SD relationship with them, guys who think they are just "supplementing their income" and many other types. I'll even give you an example.

    About 25 years ago, one of my best friends, and fuck buddies, was a stripper. She was one of those who really was a college student when she started stripping. She had 2 special customers. One of them took her on trips all over the world, gave her the down-payment for her house and bought her an Infiniti. The other one dropped a few thousand on her each month and bought her a Harley, just a Sportster, but still a chunk. Both thought she was exclusive with them.

    My old roommate had guys buying her iMacs, DSLR cameras, or just giving her ridiculous money. And those were guys who had only seen her on webcam. There is no shortage of guys who'll spend crazy money on a girl they barely know.

    I even told this one before. A Venezuelan waitress I had gotten to know brought a gringo to me one morning while I was having breakfast. He wanted me to translate. First time in Colombia, he had fallen in love with her (and she wasn't super gorgeous or anything). He wanted me to explain that he was going to send her $250 every week until he could come back and marry her. He'd known her for 3 days.

    Why does it have to be a 6 mil peso iPhone? She can get a used one, 12 or 13 model for much less. Average Lleras hoe can make 300 mil cop per night, serving just 1 dude. 5 times x week = 1,500,000 cop. Do your math. Its not a rocket science. These hoes can make much more than a cashier at Burger King and can easily afford a freaking iphone or a computer. Do you realize she can get a payment plan and pay it off over a year or two? Your claim that every hoe's iPhone is a gift from some sucker is bullshit.
    Why? Because you're the one who said "girls who have the newest iPhones. " I'm just guessing that the "newest iPhones" aren't used and 1 to 2 years old. Maybe "newest" means something different to you.

    A typical, blah, blah, blah, can make 300 k in a night, minus 50 k for taxis. However, most of them can't make that every night. If they're lucky, twice a week. Most can't easily afford anything. Why? Because most of them have no sense when it comes to money. They get money and they spend it, usually on stuff they don't need.

    Then there's the hooker mentality (although you can find it in any job that pays cash daily). If you get a good payday, then you party until you're broke, or you stay at home until you're broke. Very few hookers treat it like a real job, showing up every day, giving max effort and saving money.

    Speaking of college girls, if she is legit college girl its a great plus for me personally. I would rather spend my time with someone more educated, someone with goals in life other than party and drugs, someone who doesn't fuck dudes for living but rather to supplement income or pay for school expenses. Some do speak English, which is also a plus. But I understand your point of view, if you are fine with a 15 minute quickie with a street girl, you could care less if she is in college or not. My target audience is different than yours.
    Why? I can understand the appeal of girls who speak English, if you can't speak Spanish. I can understand not wanting to be around girls who are heavy into drugs. I just don't understand "goals in life", unless you're looking for a relationship. You're paying them to fuck, whether for 15 minutes or 6 hours. If they just come over, talk about school, life goals and whatever else, no sex, no physical intimacy, are you still happy paying them?

    Also, the reality is, you have no idea if they're just paying school expenses or fucking guys for money. Unless you're with them 24/7, all you know is what she tells you. Every guy who has had a girlfriend or wife cheat on them (or who has cheated on a wife or girlfriend), knows this.

    Your "target audience?" Again, you're paying women for sex. An audience pays the performer, not the other way around.

  5. #63726
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnS123  [View Original Post]
    I am with you on the fact that no one has a right to fuck anyone based on what they think that person should accept. There is no benefit in being bitter over someone not accepting what you deem they should accept. The same girl who has taken 200,000 COP might get $300 USD. *That same girl might get flown out to the DR, France, or Croatia.

    However, we can also acknowledge idiocy.

    Case in point. Agent 0, Former Wizards NBA star who earned nearly $200 M (this does not include any endorsement money), and now has one of the biggest sports podcasts which will undoubtedly land him a huge media contract if he decides to partner, has more fucking money than anyone who has read this damn forum at any point. And he manages to refrain from gallivanting with and spending excessive amount of money on working girls, because, no matter how you cut it, it would be fucking dumb. Openly talks about it on his streams.

    "Women out here they want the Birkin Bags, they want to eat. Like 3 x a day. Fuck. *They want to go out places and they don't want to go to regular places, they want to go to all the expensive ass places. *Movies, first class tickets to shit, they want to go on vacation. There are a lot of things that come with, you know, when I can just pay $200-$250 and get right to the good stuff."

    He also lays out how he "shops" on Instagram, and his DMs are all hoes. And he laughs at some of their prices, because any sane person would laugh at $5,000, no matter how much money they have.

    So a 9 figure net worth individual doesn't have to wine and dine working girls. To do so is a choice, not a state of normalcy simply because one has FU money. That "level" of paying far more than you need to has nothing to do with having a staggering net worth. Or is it impossible for someone with a stratospheric net worth to do something stupid as fuck with their money?
    But what's the point?? The issue is that it exists. And if one has a 9 figure net worth he's more likely not taking that approach. Mongering in itself is a hobby or luxury. It's not a necessity. And just with all other luxuries there's levels to it. A hand bag can cost 100 $ or 100,000.

    You only live once so whatever your budget live to the fullest and stop worrying about what others have. It's amazing how some guys want to count girls money then get upset about it. If a girl is smart enough to hustle a good life for herself more power to her. As for me I spend what I want as long as I get what I'm paying for.

  6. #63725
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    A lot of guys here talking out of line about things they really don't know. Also too many bitter mongers here worrying about what girls have and think they deserve based on their own budget. You guys need to wake up.

    These top girls during a 7-10 year period of their lives will live like millionaires. There will always be a guy that buys them cars phones bags and pay for all their trips.

    If you meet one of these over the hill 28-30 year old plastic hookers ask them their life story. I'll give you an example.

    A famous mansion girl Alexandra.

    You guys seen her with cars traveling to almost every country in the world with brand name designer bags etc etc.

    How about Marcela Morales. She's in Europe with her sugar daddy and acts like she never hooked before when I know she's taken at least 100 dicks in her mouth.

    This is their life. And there's another level to mongering too. It's called I got FU money and I'll do as I please. I'll fly the girl to my place and buy her whatever the fuck she wants just so I can have her at my beck and call. These are the same girls some of you like to say ain't worth more than 200 mil. And maybe you're right. But realize you're not playing on that level. So stop making assumptions.

    Most hot girls will use her prime to do more than most middle income people will do in a lifetime and this is just facts..
    I am with you on the fact that no one has a right to fuck anyone based on what they think that person should accept. There is no benefit in being bitter over someone not accepting what you deem they should accept. The same girl who has taken 200,000 COP might get $300 USD. *That same girl might get flown out to the DR, France, or Croatia.

    However, we can also acknowledge idiocy.

    Case in point. Agent 0, Former Wizards NBA star who earned nearly $200 M (this does not include any endorsement money), and now has one of the biggest sports podcasts which will undoubtedly land him a huge media contract if he decides to partner, has more fucking money than anyone who has read this damn forum at any point. And he manages to refrain from gallivanting with and spending excessive amount of money on working girls, because, no matter how you cut it, it would be fucking dumb. Openly talks about it on his streams.

    "Women out here they want the Birkin Bags, they want to eat. Like 3 x a day. Fuck. *They want to go out places and they don't want to go to regular places, they want to go to all the expensive ass places. *Movies, first class tickets to shit, they want to go on vacation. There are a lot of things that come with, you know, when I can just pay $200-$250 and get right to the good stuff."

    He also lays out how he "shops" on Instagram, and his DMs are all hoes. And he laughs at some of their prices, because any sane person would laugh at $5,000, no matter how much money they have.

    So a 9 figure net worth individual doesn't have to wine and dine working girls. To do so is a choice, not a state of normalcy simply because one has FU money. That "level" of paying far more than you need to has nothing to do with having a staggering net worth. Or is it impossible for someone with a stratospheric net worth to do something stupid as fuck with their money?

  7. #63724
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    If a girl can get $300 for a couple of hours (and very very few can), she can easily afford to buy herself the newest iphone, clothes, etc. Even travel on her own dime. The girls who get those rates consistently, are doing well, and definitely don't live in a shack with no flooring.
    $300 is 200,000 Colombian Pesos. I know a few girls that might get that much one or twice a month but consistently? Probably can count the number of girls who can pull that in on a consistent basis on one hand. And most of them are touring Europe or the Middle East. They aren't sitting at home waiting for their "I-phone" to ring.

  8. #63723
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    The same guys flying them to Cartagena, Cancun, Europe, giving them $300 for a couple of hours, etc. I do not have any friends that are mongers that would do that, but evidently many guys do because it has been announced enough on this board.
    If a girl can get $300 for a couple of hours (and very very few can), she can easily afford to buy herself the newest iphone, clothes, etc. Even travel on her own dime. The girls who get those rates consistently, are doing well, and definitely don't live in a shack with no flooring.

  9. #63722

    Stay in your lane guys

    A lot of guys here talking out of line about things they really don't know. Also too many bitter mongers here worrying about what girls have and think they deserve based on their own budget. You guys need to wake up.

    These top girls during a 7-10 year period of their lives will live like millionaires. There will always be a guy that buys them cars phones bags and pay for all their trips.

    If you meet one of these over the hill 28-30 year old plastic hookers ask them their life story. I'll give you an example.

    A famous mansion girl Alexandra.

    You guys seen her with cars traveling to almost every country in the world with brand name designer bags etc etc.

    How about Marcela Morales. She's in Europe with her sugar daddy and acts like she never hooked before when I know she's taken at least 100 dicks in her mouth.

    This is their life. And there's another level to mongering too. It's called I got FU money and I'll do as I please. I'll fly the girl to my place and buy her whatever the fuck she wants just so I can have her at my beck and call. These are the same girls some of you like to say ain't worth more than 200 mil. And maybe you're right. But realize you're not playing on that level. So stop making assumptions.

    Most hot girls will use her prime to do more than most middle income people will do in a lifetime and this is just facts.

    They trade 7-10 years of their life for what's almost a certain 30-40 years of poverty unless they're smart enough to save which 99% aren't. So accept this and move on.

    If you want a top notch girl and she's been exposed to big things you're going to have to pay big $$. Unless you're grandfathered in.

    It really depends on which point of their life you're meeting them at.

  10. #63721
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Who are these guys buying hookers newest iPhones? I don't know a single monger who would do that. We are talking about prepagos, right?
    The same guys flying them to Cartagena, Cancun, Europe, giving them $300 for a couple of hours, etc. I do not have any friends that are mongers that would do that, but evidently many guys do because it has been announced enough on this board.

  11. #63720
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Most Colombian women who are selling pussy can afford computers? Really? Or are you talking about most college students you have had arrangements with? I'm asking because I've been to Colombia and I've met Colombians, including a lot who were selling pussy. I suppose if they gave up eating and having a place to live, most could afford a computer. However, since most have no use for a computer, and do need food and a place to live, they foolishly don't buy computers.
    Looks like the only Colombianas you are dealing with are dirt poor ones. Those who have no flooring in their house, starving every day, etc. Thank god, I have met different girls and our paths with the ones you mentioned do not cross.

    The girls I have had arrangements with have flooring in their house, have TVs and computers, and don't have to eat out of trash containers. I have never been asked to buy them a computer, and never offered them to buy one (why would I? Once I was asked to help with repairing one due to the screen damage. I don't buy chicks iPhones and never been asked to buy one. I would only do that If I were in a relationship, there is nothing wrong with buying your GF an iPhone or a computer for her birthday. I can, and do once in a while, buy chicks some sexy lingerie, or a dress. Maybe a sexy perfume. Because I enjoy when the chick I have an arrangement with, looks sexy and smells good.

  12. #63719
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Dramafree claimed all of the college students without computers, stated they didn't need a computer, when he asked. I'm assuming he asks because he is willing to buy them a computer. Otherwise, why ask? Would you ask a woman if she needs taxi money and then refuse to give it if she needed it?
    It is a good question. I wish I would have thought to ask it because every girl I was interested in long term ended up having a laptop.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Most Colombian women who are selling pussy can afford computers? Really? Or are you talking about most college students you have had arrangements with? I'm asking because I've been to Colombia and I've met Colombians, including a lot who were selling pussy.
    90% of what women bring to relationships is sex, and 90% of what men bring is money. The only women you think not selling sex are either filthy rich or the ones dating you.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I suppose if they gave up eating and having a place to live, most could afford a computer.
    Yeah, that sounds like the women you "date". All my gal's friends have computers and many have cars. Heck, an 18 year old cousin of hers worked hard and paid for a trip for her and her sister to Europe.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Just a side note. Did you know that students studying to be dental assistants, certified nursing assistants and many other non-degree medical field jobs, wear the exact same uniforms as those studying to be nurses and doctors?
    And here we go again. You and your fellow Medellin morons think that if anyone is dating an elite Colombian woman, it is a con. Yes, all those photos my gal showed me of her in Europe and Mexico were fake. So are those of all of her friends and family. They were ALL photoshopped. The cars her friends drive are rentals or from sugar daddies. None have decent paying jobs of their own. Every car on the roads is owned by men, and it is the same with all the cattle in the countryside. They are all 100% owned by men.

    And the female students who know anatomy, ask me about physiology, and have textbooks costing hundreds of dollars were also putting on an elaborate act. They are such good fucking con women that we are powerless to detect which women are professional students and those who are not. We need you, Professor Shit for Brains truck driver, to tell us which women are true working professionals and which are not. In the incredibly wise words of you Professor Shit for Brains, if this women are professional, they would not be interested in you. Of course, it does not matter that you do not know the specific men and women in question.

    What we know about you is you didn't pay a dime in rent in over a year, had no hot water, begged guys to help you, got a device that goes for a whopping $35 on Amazon, and bragged about having hot water.

    So let me make this statement. If you think having hot water is something to brag about, the elite Colombian women are not going to be interested in you. In your case, the women are not the con artists. You are!!

  13. #63718
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    How do guys that pay for pussy not realize this? So this bich does not have a car, a motorcycle, an authentic luxury purse, nice shoes, flooring in the house, or even 20,000 pesos for a taxi, but bought herself a 6 million peso phone? Most of them are stupid, but they are not that stupid. And if you see her with an iPhone that she did buy herself, then she has sense enough to buy a fake one. Just because the outside says iPhone, does not mean the inside says iPhone.

    You are telling the truth today. That is why I am always confused when hookers put university student on their profile. What the fuck does that have to do with what I am hiring her for? I am not looking for a study buddy. Putting her mom is a carpenter would serve the same purpose: None!
    Who are these guys buying hookers newest iPhones? I don't know a single monger who would do that. We are talking about prepagos, right? If we are, then it makes zero sense to buy an expensive phone to some random hooker that charges you by the hour. Real relationships or some long-term SB-SD arrangements is a different story.

    Why does it have to be a 6 mil peso iPhone? She can get a used one, 12 or 13 model for much less. Average Lleras hoe can make 300 mil cop per night, serving just 1 dude. 5 times x week = 1,500,000 cop. Do your math. Its not a rocket science. These hoes can make much more than a cashier at Burger King and can easily afford a freaking iphone or a computer. Do you realize she can get a payment plan and pay it off over a year or two? Your claim that every hoe's iPhone is a gift from some sucker is bullshit.

    Speaking of college girls, if she is legit college girl its a great plus for me personally. I would rather spend my time with someone more educated, someone with goals in life other than party and drugs, someone who doesn't fuck dudes for living but rather to supplement income or pay for school expenses. Some do speak English, which is also a plus. But I understand your point of view, if you are fine with a 15 minute quickie with a street girl, you could care less if she is in college or not. My target audience is different than yours.

  14. #63717
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    I agree she looks like an average costea / Morena with bolt-ONS not indigenous looking in the least.

    Also indigenous women don't have bolt-ONS, how do I know you may wonder, it's because I met one before lmao.
    Now your talkin sense. Hehe.

  15. #63716
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    Provenza is chock a block with prepagos.
    I have been up in Provenza a few times in the last month on a Friday night, and there are a lot of single girls walking around, but I did not seen any tale tell signs, like around LLeras and Calle 10 of SW's giving males the google eye and hoots as they pass by.

    Perhaps I have totally missed seeing any walkers up there during my very brief past visits, unless of course your referring to Prepagos who only work the Internet, versus being walkers.

    I can't envision the SW scene spilling over into Provenza, but who knows, with all the increase in tourism, maybe it already has if that is what your aware of, and if so, are you aware of any specific locations in Provenza where SW's have been spotted as that would be interesting information. Kind of like around Dominos on Calle 10, but in Provenza. I always look around the bridge crossing the Quebrada when I'm up there but haven't noticed anything, as my monger radar is always on when I'm up in that area.

    As far as the politics for Provenza, I have no clue about this.

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