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  1. #63811
    It isn't always going to be a problem. In my experience more often than not the best case scenario after you pay up front is a subpar session, and it goes downhill from there. There are too many other options to take the risk in my opinion. Sometimes I will tell a girl that she offended me by asking. That's helped put them on defensive and sometimes accept my terms. If they don't then I just move on. I don't have first time encounters in my home. A couple of the short time joints in Centro are like second homes to me so I guess they count as exceptions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Well I think some might disagree with you regarding looks and service if that is what your referring to with the "ugly girls" as I think at times the ones with the prettier faces are worse, but that is just my opinion.

    However on more substantial issue, paying up front when your taking someone back to your place, or them requesting payment up front beforehand is a huge red flag.

    As once they've been paid they may just lay there, provide shitty service, and push to get the deed done ASAP.

    This doesn't always happen, but there is a simple solution to guarantee hopefully a better session.

    Before leaving with the girl, simply tell them that you always pay afterwards, and if they are not willing to accept this, then consider saying adios as this is a red flag.

    And a compromise position if your really enamored with the girl is to offer one half up front and the other half upon completion.

    Sometimes, myself included, forget that we as mongers are in the drivers seat, not the hooker.

  2. #63810

    You are right

    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    Nice play Carrib, I can tell you heart was in the right place to give the security guy the 125. I am assuming he caught your back and rid that girl from your apartment. Bro, I also got to say though, if you take a girl back to your place, unless she is denying service, drugging you, or robbing you, you got to pay her bro. I can't say I totally blame her here. Also logically speaking, that was a huge amount of money to throw a security guard, that 125 $ was probably his weekly paycheck. The only thing this guy will think for the rest of his interactions with gringos is how can he get money out of them and he's going to replay this story to everyone he knows. I respect a good tipper, but 125 $ to a security guard is overboard and sets a bad precedent which can affect the game. Always respect the game before the hoe playa.
    Ram that is good advice and I appreciate it, however I am sure i agree with “if u take a girl back to your place, you have to pay her” however to your point, I alway say never get into an argument with a Chica, so I will also pay something to get her ass to leave.

    It was a huge amount and that was an additional fuck up on my part-in any case I have a few more days to try to talk to said security guard and explain why I gave him so much money. I can't remember the last time I had a problem with a Chica as I usually screen them well but this time I was caught off guard with a Chica I would normally never give the time of day, again my mistake. As for warning them that you never pay of front, what if she lies and then demand payment up front? The problem is that most of these Chicas understand that the majority of gringos fear the Colombian polce and oftentimes use that to their advantage.


    Oh

    One last word about paying upfront, that sets a terrible precedent so please refrain from doing so, if a Chica demands payment upfront, you can show her you have the money to pay her and if she still refuses, show her ass the door. Hopefully you won't have to deal with the BS I encountered. She's lucky we weren't at a love motel, I would I simply paid the hotel and left her ass there. Some of you mongers have allowed these putas to take complete control of the mongering scene here in Medellin, basic and borderline ugly putas are asking 250 USD.

  3. #63809

    Pay

    Quote Originally Posted by Haxagonus  [View Original Post]
    The ones with ugly faces are always the worst. Every girl that I had that has great looking face was always nice. Also I feel like the more girls charge the more entitled and bratty they will be. Also I always pay up front. Every girl I've ever been with expects it upfront the first time. After the second time they know me and trust me so they just come in do the deed and I pay them and they are happy. I don't know what's up with gustos but it seems to attract girls that act that way. I would only take a 9 out from gustos and I've never seen a 9 in Colombia that is working. A 9 is objectively perfect. A 10 is objectively perfect and your type.
    You are the only monger in history who has said "I always pay up front".

  4. #63808
    Quote Originally Posted by Carrib  [View Original Post]
    I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.

    I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS

    It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).

    I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.

    Here's tonight's takeaway.

    Follow your instincts and judgment.

    Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).

    Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.
    Nice play Carrib, I can tell you heart was in the right place to give the security guy the 125. I am assuming he caught your back and rid that girl from your apartment. Bro, I also got to say though, if you take a girl back to your place, unless she is denying service, drugging you, or robbing you, you got to pay her bro. I can't say I totally blame her here. Also logically speaking, that was a huge amount of money to throw a security guard, that 125 $ was probably his weekly paycheck. The only thing this guy will think for the rest of his interactions with gringos is how can he get money out of them and he's going to replay this story to everyone he knows. I respect a good tipper, but 125 $ to a security guard is overboard and sets a bad precedent which can affect the game. Always respect the game before the hoe playa.

  5. #63807

    Paying Upfront And The Pitfalls With This

    Quote Originally Posted by Haxagonus  [View Original Post]
    The ones with ugly faces are always the worst. Every girl that I had that has great looking face was always nice. Also I feel like the more girls charge the more entitled and bratty they will be. Also I always pay up front. Every girl I've ever been with expects it upfront the first time. After the second time they know me and trust me so they just come in do the deed and I pay them and they are happy. I don't know what's up with gustos but it seems to attract girls that act that way. I would only take a 9 out from gustos and I've never seen a 9 in Colombia that is working. A 9 is objectively perfect. A 10 is objectively perfect and your type.
    Well I think some might disagree with you regarding looks and service if that is what your referring to with the "ugly girls" as I think at times the ones with the prettier faces are worse, but that is just my opinion.

    However on more substantial issue, paying up front when your taking someone back to your place, or them requesting payment up front beforehand is a huge red flag.

    As once they've been paid they may just lay there, provide shitty service, and push to get the deed done ASAP.

    This doesn't always happen, but there is a simple solution to guarantee hopefully a better session.

    Before leaving with the girl, simply tell them that you always pay afterwards, and if they are not willing to accept this, then consider saying adios as this is a red flag.

    And a compromise position if your really enamored with the girl is to offer one half up front and the other half upon completion.

    Sometimes, myself included, forget that we as mongers are in the drivers seat, not the hooker.

  6. #63806
    Quote Originally Posted by Carrib  [View Original Post]
    I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.

    I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS

    It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).

    I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.

    Here's tonight's takeaway.

    Follow your instincts and judgment.

    Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).

    Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.
    I had something kind of sort of similar happen to me in Bogota back in August. I had a homegirl bring me a friend of hers (SF SG) to my hotel on cra 13 and Calle 22 near santa fe.

    The deal was suppose to be 100 mil COP for BBFS. I also had to pay 20 mil exidente to the hotel to bring her to my room.

    Anyways long story short we get in my room and she starts demanding the 100 mil pesos adelentado (up front) and I'm like "siempre pago después" And she says no and that she always charges up front and insists on the money. So then I start making sure she understood how the service was going to be because I know from experience that when you pay up front they often change the rules of the agreement and don't do what was agreed upon. So I asked her if she understood that the servicio was sin condóand and then she replies "tenemos que cuidarnos".

    After hearing that in my mind I'm like nah ***** your getting the fuck out of my room your not getting a dime let alone 100 mil pesos. So I ask her politely in Spanish to leave, I'm like "sabes que no quiero el servicio, usted puede salir de mi pieza, porfa" and get this, the ***** refuses to fucking leave my room. Amazing. This makes me even more mad that she won't leave, and I'm a pretty big dude I'm like 230 lbs. So I literally pick the ***** up and throw her into the hall way and shut the door to my room behind me locking us both outside of the room. Then I start calling her pinche gonorrhea and hijueputa and all that shit why que me the asco why sal de mi hotel pinche Veneca, etc.

    Then the hotel manager dude, whom I've known since 2018, comes and escorts her the rest of the way out to the street. And I explain what happened to the hotel dude how she wanted to charge me upfront and tried to change the terms of the agreement and then refused to leave after being asked politely to do so. And low and behold he gave me back my 20 mil I had paid for her exidente fee and told me I was in the right to ask her to leave.

    -Gabacho.

  7. #63805
    Quote Originally Posted by Carrib  [View Original Post]
    I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.

    I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS

    It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).

    I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.

    Here's tonight's takeaway.

    Follow your instincts and judgment.

    Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).

    Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.
    I had one like that, luckily she had a job and no choice but to leave my place empty handed. I had another I met in lleras, I told her straight up I wasn't paying I just wanted to kick it with her, she said it was a slow night for her so she didn't mind. I did have to pay to get her phone fixed in the am though, but wasn't much LOL.

  8. #63804

    Tinder Platinum

    I get lazy sometime and don't want to go out and find girls at gusto or other clubs.

    Tinder has been good to me when I initially came, but the last week it was getting really slow.

    Last night I decided to purchase tinder platinum and I got 26 new matches overnight.

    Two of them are 9's and I'm looking forward knocking them down (they are pros for sure).

    What I like about dating apps, is that you can find both a real GF and you can pay others if you like.

    I haven't used seeking.com on here, but I saw that there are a crazy amount of girls on there.

    I feel like they are overpriced there, does anyone have experience on seeking in Medellin?

  9. #63803

    Gustos

    Quote Originally Posted by Carrib  [View Original Post]
    I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.
    The ones with ugly faces are always the worst. Every girl that I had that has great looking face was always nice. Also I feel like the more girls charge the more entitled and bratty they will be. Also I always pay up front. Every girl I've ever been with expects it upfront the first time. After the second time they know me and trust me so they just come in do the deed and I pay them and they are happy. I don't know what's up with gustos but it seems to attract girls that act that way. I would only take a 9 out from gustos and I've never seen a 9 in Colombia that is working. A 9 is objectively perfect. A 10 is objectively perfect and your type.

  10. #63802

    Provenza lofts

    Quote Originally Posted by Zdon34  [View Original Post]
    Are hotels in Medellin mostly guest friendly? If they aren't, anyone have recommendations in the El Poblado area?
    Provenza lofts is girl friendly. Lost my "virginity" there. There another hotel near by that is by the same owner as Provenza lofts but I don't remember the name.

    And I think hotel dix is also girl friendly but I ah ent been there.

  11. #63801
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    I'm not going to lie. I've made that mistake too although it's been quite a while. If I had to guess I'm going to say the Colombian's choice had a fatter ass than the girl you wanted. I know a very attractive and slender girl who works in a casa. She told me most of her clients are foreigners because the Colombians don't go for her body type.
    As recent as 6 years ago New Life had really hot chicas. Back in 2016 I chose this young chica who must have been 18/19 with slim body and pretty face. Thing is she was inexperienced. She was so tight I had problems penetrating even with lube. If I remember correctly I did not come. Tight body and small firm breasts. The inexperience made the chemistry all wrong.

  12. #63800
    Quote Originally Posted by Carrib  [View Original Post]
    One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it.

    Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.
    Firstly, helping newbies usually ends up as a loss. Not even a breakeven situation because they never listen to a pros advice.

    She came up to you was the first red flag. That is an 80% bad omen.

    Thanks for taking one for the team! You helped another guy down the line. I get tired of doing it all the time. If more guys fought back then the girls will be less likely to F us over. She still received a good payday of 160,000 COP.

    Last night I took a girl for the 4th time. Very rare occurrence. But it was rainy and late. I swear for a split second she was about to ask for money first this time. Then she held up her hands showing 10 (100,000 COP) when I paid her 50,000 the first 3 times. It was cool outside so she pulled her half shirt up but not off (thin girl so probably cold). She tried slightly to have me not suck on her boobs (never happened before). I took a little longer and offered 10,000 COP extra to finish. She wanted 20,000 COP. I agreed because I never gave her extra before and knew this was our last hurray.

    I swear these girls must think I have fallen in love with them. Same crap happened to me in the Philippines years ago. 80% of the girls turn to crap on the 3rd or 4th meeting (the very few that make it that far).

  13. #63799

    First fuck up in Medellin

    I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.

    I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS

    It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).

    I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.

    Here's tonight's takeaway.

    Follow your instincts and judgment.

    Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).

    Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.

  14. #63798

    Hotels

    Are hotels in Medellin mostly guest friendly? If they aren't, anyone have recommendations in the El Poblado area?

  15. #63797
    I'm not going to lie. I've made that mistake too although it's been quite a while. If I had to guess I'm going to say the Colombian's choice had a fatter ass than the girl you wanted. I know a very attractive and slender girl who works in a casa. She told me most of her clients are foreigners because the Colombians don't go for her body type.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    In 2009 I was in New Life seated with one other monger, a local, when the lineup paraded. In that lineup was one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen. The papasan asked the Colombian dude for his choice and my mind was going bonkers. He chose, to my consternation and relief, another woman. I immediately selected my choice who turned out to be also a nice person and a very good lay. After I left the place I thought I should have taken her phone number but those were the days when hot providers were readily available in the casas. However, as time went on I began to feel more and more that I should have taken her number. I returned the next day to seek her but she was not there and never to be seen by me again. To this day I regret not having got her contact information.

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