Medellin Reports

[JustTK]

And are hotels now requiring that all guests be vaccinated to stay at the Hotel?
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Tbh I haven't seen the actual legislation. Bcos you hope to get out of here soon. But anyway it seems obvious that what is right today will be wrong tmrw. Its an ever changing mess, so my advice would be to be prepared. . And expect the absurd. Hehe.

[Surfer500]

I have not seen the actual wording of the legislation or regulation regarding this but the information on the Colombian Minister of Health website does not mention hotels. The are targeting areas where lots of people gather in close proximity to one another. They use the expression "que implique aglomeraciand" translated to english means involving agglomeration translated to everyday language means collecting in a mass clumped in together -.


https://www.minsalud.gov.co/Paginas/Alcaldes-responsables-de-hacer-cumplir-la-medida-del-carne-de-vacunacion.aspx..

Well in answer to one of my own questions, apparently to enter all of the places mentioned, effective on December 1 next week, for entry, you must have either two doses of a COVID vaccine unless it's the J & J vaccine.

The reason I was curious about this is because one of my girls has only had the 1st shot, so I told her today to get the second shot ASAP, or we won't be able to dine out.

So if this is truly enforced, and guys are going out with one of their girls somewhere, they better confirm that they've been fully vaccinated, which not everyone has.

The last thing you want to happen to you is show up somewhere, and be denied entry, which I'm sure is going to be a problem for everyone.

And of course, and I brought this up earlier, what about the Metro and public buses?

Totally falls under the definition, yet my bet is they won't instigate this for public transportation, as it would cause total mayhem.

I know they tried "social distancing" on the METRO during the beginning of the Pandemic, but that didn't last long.

[Mojo Bandit]

Perhaps you know the answer to this question.

If someone has only received only the first shot of a vaccine, and has proof of it, will they let them in to establishments that are checking.

Since technically speaking fully vaccinated means 2-3 shots, what are the new requirements for entry.

And are hotels now requiring that all guests be vaccinated to stay at the Hotel?

Maybe your not the right guy to ask, but maybe you know, or someone else does.

I have not seen the actual wording of the legislation or regulation regarding this but the information on the Colombian Minister of Health website does not mention hotels. The are targeting areas where lots of people gather in close proximity to one another. They use the expression "que implique aglomeraciand" translated to english means involving agglomeration translated to everyday language means collecting in a mass clumped in together -.


https://www.minsalud.gov.co/Paginas/Alcaldes-responsables-de-hacer-cumplir-la-medida-del-carne-de-vacunacion.aspx

The website says.

"Finally, he recalled that the measure, for now, is given for all massive events: concerts, fairs and places such as restaurants, bars, gastrobars, bingo halls, casinos, stadiums, but it will constantly be evaluating whether we need to extend the measure to other spaces. "Today he is not, for example, to get on a plane or enter churches but we will be evaluating the measure permanently," he concluded.

[Bill]

I would say you shuld put your trust more in government migration sites than a monger forum for your immigration advice.



The anecdotal health advice in this section makes me giggle. I guess whatever makes people happy is good. Go take your booster, or nr 4, or nr 10. Or how about you get urself in good shape instead of being a walking, living, breathing health risk! Take some responsibility for your own health state, then maybe you would be less worried about smthg that is normally only dangerous to the vulnerable.

My take is that most all of us are sex addicts, and if we can just hear about just one guy taking a risk without a condom or using his cellphone in public without incident, then we could be just as lucky as well.

That goes for using illicit drugs, getting on a plane knowing you have covid, or skirting laws or regulations (incl. Common sense) meant to protect us from ourselves.

Got to love the super mongers that say it never happens because "I drank pond water as a kid" or "just take 500 MG of eucalytus bark 6 x a day".

Can you spell DENIAL, boys and girls? LOL.

My latest take on Botero freelancers is that most are Venezuelan and often give bad service, ask for pmt in advance and upsell. Ymmv.

Could be my imagination but they are often taller with longer faces and all business.

Some casas have these same providers asking " tip for me?

Verbatim.

Now who was the first dumass gringo that taught them that? Imo, when I meet a Venny provider, she already has 1 strike against her.

Buy Local!!

[Surfer500]

Checked in at hotel Nutibara to show a coupla firiends around town. Receptionist asked if we had vax cards. I said "do we need one now? She said "yes". But we checked in without being asked to show anything and that was the end of it. Maybe she let me pass because she knows me, or maybe they are just not very diligent. Either way, its a risk for us Globe Earthers.

Perhaps you know the answer to this question.

If someone has only received only the first shot of a vaccine, and has proof of it, will they let them in to establishments that are checking.

Since technically speaking fully vaccinated means 2-3 shots, what are the new requirements for entry.

And are hotels now requiring that all guests be vaccinated to stay at the Hotel?

Maybe your not the right guy to ask, but maybe you know, or someone else does.

[JustTK]

Checked in at hotel Nutibara to show a coupla firiends around town. Receptionist asked if we had vax cards. I said "do we need one now? She said "yes". But we checked in without being asked to show anything and that was the end of it. Maybe she let me pass because she knows me, or maybe they are just not very diligent. Either way, its a risk for us Globe Earthers.

[Mr Enternational]

If you are flying to the US, you must have a negative Covid test no more than three days before the day of your flight. Antigen test is accepted.

Negative PCR or antigen test only. 3 days if you are vaccinated. 1 day if you are not.

[Surfer500]

The biggest difference I noticed is the sheer volume of options in China. The language barrier is rough for sure. I had a breakthrough when I decided to ignore it. That was how I discovered the barbershop scene, a level below the brothels and massage parlors.

A true street rat at heart wherever in the world, and I found China fascinating.

However, I doubt you would partake in an equivalent "Centro " scene in New Delhi, India. I was taken to one of the areas by a guide, and was frightened as hell, and language wasn't an issue, but it was just to bizarre, with some very scary beast providers beckoning me.

I did visit some upscale massage places though, and in one of them, the provider started licking my ass, and I didn't even request it, nor do I like it, but it happened, and I guess she was what I would call a "Rear Admiral".

[Fun Luvr]

What's the lastest covid procedures for entering and leaving Medellin. According to the airlines and state dep your directed to the web site Check-Mig registration where you fill out a form on line no more 72 hrs before and then again after you leave Colombia. It also states that you don't need a covid test before or after you leave Colombia, nor do you need to be vaccinated for covid. Is this true? It seems on the dos website Colombia and Mexico are the only two countries exempt from these requirements at least for the USA I really don't want to quarantine in Colombia.

Most of your information is correct, with a few changes. You must fill out the Check-mig form 48 hours to 1 hour before your flight into Colombia and before leaving Colombia, not AFTER you leave. If you are flying to the US, you must have a negative Covid test no more than three days before the day of your flight. Antigen test is accepted.

[Knowledge]

I'm hoping there would be a one time presentation of vaccination certificates for holders of registered Civicas (the Civicas with senior citizen or physical impairment discounts). The vast majority of metro riders use unregistered civicas so the waiting lines might be brutal.

As long as we are on the subject of the metro. When the fuck will Colombians stop hovering at the doors of the cars even when they aren't getting off for several stops. I feel badly about it but it's gotten to the point that I just push the aside or step on feet. I've been on metros in many countries. This is the only place where riders act as if the middle of the car is bottomless pit you will never get out of. OK, that is my rant for today. LOL.

Not sure where your getting the date of December 16 from. According to the articles, the curfew will only be instigated for those un-vaccinated in the event ICU capacity is going to be overloaded. This was how it was done before.

As far as enforcement, yes, it will be a joke in most instances, with a lot of places looking the other way or accepting anything presented to them. What could be a nightmare though would be if they required you to be vaccinated to use the METRO, and they tried to check every rider, versus random checking.

[Knowledge]

The biggest difference I noticed is the sheer volume of options in China. The language barrier is rough for sure. I had a breakthrough when I decided to ignore it. That was how I discovered the barbershop scene, a level below the brothels and massage parlors.

I missed out on the Centro equivalent when in China and looked for it but was not successful, but did find a couple of brothels, and you talk about a language barrier, it was a challenge beyond belief.

I wish I could claim to be an experienced China street rat like you (LOL), if that's what they call the barbershop patrons there.

[Knowledge]

Good deal, it might cut down on the crowds in Centro and on public transport. Maybe we will see anti-vaxxers take their crusade to the public via jailhouse interviews like Eldridge Cleaver. Everyone gets to make their choices. I read that in Serbia there is no enforcement of COVID rules or vaccination requirements. That might be a place to go to be free.

https://noticias.canal1.com.co/nacio...a-en-medellin/

https://www.noticiasrcn.com/colombia...e-covid-395151

Basically what theyre doing in Austria. Where this idiocy comes from I don't know, it if passes it will go into effect Dec. 16. Since they're thinking about it, it will probably happen.

How the police will enforce it? They won't, another joke.

FYI to any mongers there.

[Mr Enternational]

Just chiming in here. I got my booster 2 weeks before my trip last month. Just got back from MDE. Kissed and made out with a few chicas that had noticeable coughs. Passed through many packed shoulder to shoulder corridors and walkways through Comuna 13 with most not wearing masks. In short, get the booster shit was golden

Funny. I have done the same things many times and have not gotten any shots. Why have I been golden? Matter of fact, the people that I know that got shots and ended up not being golden participated in no such behavior and are not particularly unhealthy and don't know how they ended up not being golden.

[JustTK]

What's the lastest covid procedures for entering and leaving Medellin. According to the airlines and state dep your directed to the web site Check-Mig registration where you fill out a form on line no more 72 hrs before and then again after you leave Colombia. It also states that you don't need a covid test before or after you leave Colombia, nor do you need to be vaccinated for covid.

I would say you shuld put your trust more in government migration sites than a monger forum for your immigration advice. My latest knowledge is that you do not need the vax nor a test result to enter Col. I know of no country that requires a test result to leave (though I suppose there may be a few crazies around the world). Test results are required to enter, not to leave.

Chk-Mig is form filling is required too.

The anecdotal health advice in this section makes me giggle. I guess whatever makes people happy is good. Go take your booster, or nr 4, or nr 10. Or how about you get urself in good shape instead of being a walking, living, breathing health risk! Take some responsibility for your own health state, then maybe you would be less worried about smthg that is normally only dangerous to the vulnerable.

[LuvChicas]

Thanks for the response. Did your condition worsen that much by the time you talked with your PCP? It sounds like you were in decent shape, then all of a sudden your O2 was low and you were in a Covid ward running up a huge bill. Seems like a nice money-maker for the hospital. Virtually every non-elderly person I know who has gotten Covid had very mild or no symptoms. The one exception was a guy who is extremely obese. He was in the hospital a while.

FWIW, the machinations you went through to get back to the USA sound almost as bad as being stuck quarantined in a room in Colombia. And at least in the room you won't infect anyone else or be sick while traveling which can be very unpleasant.

I'm leaning towards taking my trip, but I think I'll get a booster shot this weekend. And bring lots of books loaded on my iPad in case I get stuck in Colombia.

Actually I thought I was getting better, but after O2 saturation test. The Covid specialist implored me to get admitted, and my hospital had Covid rooms available. So I went. Honestly, everything went well after testing positive and getting back to US. I just didn't want to spend another 10 days in MDE quarantining, being careful not to infect others, requiring me not to go out and indulge with the natives. IE. Chicas. It would be hard to be in the land of plenty and refrain! I only left the US to indulge after almost 2 years of being grounded, because I was fully vaccinated. No mRNA injection, no leaving the country! Luvchicas.