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  1. #40482
    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvThePussy  [View Original Post]
    Well I'm about 13 girls deep so far this trip all from Facebook and I've noticed a trend. The girls with the hotter more touched up pictures tend to be uglier. I just had a girl named Maria Camila Gonzalez and she was pretty hot in her pictures, but when she came I saw she was caked in make up, body wasnt nearly as nice. Saggy tits, smelly vagina. Did I still fill her up with my leche? Sure but it wasnt nearly as enjoyable as with other girls. In comparison girls who had normal, natural pictures that didn't paint paint them as some instagram models were much more beautiful. Has happened to me twice now. I think I might avoid the instagram girls.
    Lots of fb girls are like this. There really isn't a fb girl that's higher than an 8 imo.

  2. #40481
    Amen. These girls have a lot of competition! And a lot to model after! I wonder if your Maria Camila Gonzalez is the same as the one I had. Probably not LOL. But based on your description. Could be. I actually told her to meet me in Llares park one night at a bar during Halloween. I was pulled left and right by so many to choose from. When she went to the bar I wasn't there more than 20 minutes before I opted out. Her pictures are good bait but in person she was nothing to look at with so many other chicas everywhere. Now if I see a chica online I like, I question my whole decision. She still hates me to this day as I've seen her out Bunches of times after. We lock eyes and then look away. She's not horrendous but definitely a let down. I paid for our drinks and said I'll contact you after I leave the bars tonight. She must have called 20 times starting at 2 am Through 4 am. Good thing I met her out first because I pulled a solid 9 in my book that night. My guy actually saw her on FB and invited her over. Same stinky box story. Too many coincidences.

    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvThePussy  [View Original Post]
    Well I'm about 13 girls deep so far this trip all from Facebook and I've noticed a trend. The girls with the hotter more touched up pictures tend to be uglier. I just had a girl named Maria Camila Gonzalez and she was pretty hot in her pictures, but when she came I saw she was caked in make up, body wasnt nearly as nice. Saggy tits, smelly vagina. Did I still fill her up with my leche? Sure but it wasnt nearly as enjoyable as with other girls. In comparison girls who had normal, natural pictures that didn't paint paint them as some instagram models were much more beautiful. Has happened to me twice now. I think I might avoid the instagram girls.

  3. #40480

    Don't trust the pictures

    Well I'm about 13 girls deep so far this trip all from Facebook and I've noticed a trend. The girls with the hotter more touched up pictures tend to be uglier. I just had a girl named Maria Camila Gonzalez and she was pretty hot in her pictures, but when she came I saw she was caked in make up, body wasnt nearly as nice. Saggy tits, smelly vagina. Did I still fill her up with my leche? Sure but it wasnt nearly as enjoyable as with other girls. In comparison girls who had normal, natural pictures that didn't paint paint them as some instagram models were much more beautiful. Has happened to me twice now. I think I might avoid the instagram girls.

  4. #40479

    My Main Reason For TLN's

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    On the topic of todo la noche vs todo la leche, I am firmly in the strongly satisfying 1-2 HR session camp. Its frankly better for all concerned. If you are clear in your head this is a puta and you are not mixing matters it makes sense. Safety, extortion, convenience etc are all in your favor with with Cita situation. If I go with TLN at all, it would be after multiple sessions, and if I were doing that, I probably rather do that on a short trip somewhere.

    But I am sure there are other views and that is cool too.
    I like TLN's with Chica's I have some history with, and of course they have to be all in. This means no rules nor quotas or schedules. So when I wake up with morning wood at 6 AM there's no pushback. For me, blowing a load after a good nights sleep seems to be more satisfying than any other time of day for me personally.

    Maybe another way of looking at this is imagine when your horny and want to blow a load, instead of having to go on the hunt say in El Centro, go to a casa, or schedule a Cita with a Fayboo or Tinder Chica you don't have to go far nor wait. I know other guys can relate to this, where others just want Ratos.

    It's all a matter of how you roll and there's no right or wrong as everyone is so different.

  5. #40478

    Todo la noche vs Todo la leche

    On the topic of todo la noche vs todo la leche, I am firmly in the strongly satisfying 1-2 HR session camp. Its frankly better for all concerned. If you are clear in your head this is a puta and you are not mixing matters it makes sense. Safety, extortion, convenience etc are all in your favor with with Cita situation. If I go with TLN at all, it would be after multiple sessions, and if I were doing that, I probably rather do that on a short trip somewhere.

    But I am sure there are other views and that is cool too.

  6. #40477
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    I take back what I said about Davivienda if you are using a schwab card. I made 3 attempts to withdraw cash using a Schwab ATM card from 2 separate Davivienda ATM machines. I never recieved any cash from any of these attempts. 1 attempt was blocked by Schwab but the other 2 withdrawal attempts reported "Transaccion con problemas. Intente luego. " and no cash was dispensed. I called schwab today to get my card sorted out and they informed me that the 2 transactions that were not blocked by them actually went through and cash was removed from my account even though I did not receive any cash. So now they are helping me dispute the transactions. There is something definitely wrong with the interaction between schwab and Davivienda at the moment. I recommend that you do not use these ATM's with Schwab cards. Also don't forget to keep your ATM receipts!

    I did successfully use their atm with a different card.
    Yeah I tired davienda today for 300 mil and it said problem with the transaction. I hope it doesn't go through, I hate the dispute hassle. Happened twice with banco de cajo too. Bancolombia is my favorite right now. 600 mil and the 18 mil transaction fee doesn't matter because shwab reimburses those.

  7. #40476

    Davivienda Warning

    I take back what I said about Davivienda if you are using a schwab card. I made 3 attempts to withdraw cash using a Schwab ATM card from 2 separate Davivienda ATM machines. I never recieved any cash from any of these attempts. 1 attempt was blocked by Schwab but the other 2 withdrawal attempts reported "Transaccion con problemas. Intente luego. " and no cash was dispensed. I called schwab today to get my card sorted out and they informed me that the 2 transactions that were not blocked by them actually went through and cash was removed from my account even though I did not receive any cash. So now they are helping me dispute the transactions. There is something definitely wrong with the interaction between schwab and Davivienda at the moment. I recommend that you do not use these ATM's with Schwab cards. Also don't forget to keep your ATM receipts!

    I did successfully use their atm with a different card.

  8. #40475
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    If you really don't care that much about 3 dollars vs 6 dollars, I got a venmo account for you to send me 6 dollars for all of my girls taxis.
    Why is it always ONLY $3 that you should give away but never ONLY $3 that the girl should forgo? Of the hundreds of chicks that I have talked down on price I have never experienced one of them to be sad or to give bad service because of it. And I have never seen 1 report on this phenomenon either. I have only seen people warn of it. Fair exchange is never a robbery, so why do some take it as the girl being robbed when she agreed to a fair exchange less than her original asking price?

  9. #40474
    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1  [View Original Post]
    Really? You bust on this girl for trying to get roughly $6 instead of $3 for taxi? Better to pick your wars. If she's trying to con you into 600 K for a session when 200 K is a good day for her, that's one thing but come on man 3 bucks? Jajaj I have a favorite I sneak in, every other trip when my girl was in class. I would give her 20 K for the taxi and one day I followed her down stairs to give her a tube of VS lotion she forgot and I saw her running down the street to catch the bus. To her the 20 k was more valuable to her than the luxury of a taxi. I never said anything and I totally understand where she was coming from. She's a good kid, we have never even talked about how much or how long before or after, she just is happy with what I give her. Usually 200 + 20 for taxi. And she gives 100% every time I see her. My time with her is so hot she could probably get double from a lot of you guys because she's that good. I'll give her a gift from time to time but I don't change our price structure.
    I respect every single word you said. I have my favorite that is incredible. Drop dead gorgeous, if not for some hideous tattoos she could easily be a top end model, and she is a hellcat in bed. I pay her above the normal rate but unlike comments from others here, she goes way overboard to make sure I have the time of my life.

  10. #40473
    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvThePussy  [View Original Post]
    I learned my lessons with TLNs. They are incredibly boring. We fucked / fooled around for two hours. I'm satisfied already. So we just lay around on our phones. I go to sleep and we fuck again in the morning which I am not in to because I like to take my mornings slow. I payed 300 mil for that. Never again. I don't speak spanish so I can't really converse with them and even if I could I don't think the conversations would be that entertaining. I'm even questioning my 2 hours deal because I leche twice in an hour and I just tell them to leave. I think I'm going to go with "150 mil mas taxi por dos leches" from now on.
    One of the reasons I went the sugar route is how stupidly expensive vacations and TLN were in the sex prison, but there are really only three reasons to do TLN. For me, the most common one is the environment. Everybody focuses on the women but fucking someone in a crowded, uncomfortable strip club or a gym mat or massage table makes for a far less enjoyable experience. Like you said though, two hours in a hotel is probably equivalent to TLN in most cases.

    The second is if you really like the woman's company beyond sex. Holding someone you like all night, spooning with them, seeing them first thing in the morning, the morning BJ can be great, but even if the woman is a working girl not a SB, you probably want to reserve this for a woman you have seen before and like. I get that for most guys Colombia is a rush to fuck as much strange as possible. Though the temptation for new is always great, if you have a great session with one gal, you probably are better off doing a repeat or considering a TLN.

    The third reason is this is the most rare but what guys are hoping for, the prostitute nympho where you fuck all night. I can recall only a few times in my life this happening. The first requirement is you. Can you fuck all night? I am not even just talking about from a stamina point of view but from a hardness / lack of sleep point of view. The second requirement is a full fledged nympho that wants to fuck all night, and her mind has to be there as well. It is great when the stars align and this happens, but for me, this has been a once in a decade occurrence and in all the cases, it was not planned.

  11. #40472

    9 K vs 20 K

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Just wanted to add, that during negociations this same chica asked me if I would pay for her taxi. I asked where do you live and how much it would be. She told me she lived in Castilla and said it would be 20 k each way. I looked up Castilla in google maps and then sent her a screen shot of a Cabify quote saying it would be less than 9 k for a ride to castilla. I said I would give her 20 k taxi total. She said "Okay, when should I come over?

    Keep in mind also that after the session finished I did indeed give her 20 k and also walked her to the metro. This taxi bullshit is just another way to get money out of you. LOL. Generally she was pretty cool and it was a good session. So I wasn't upset or anything. I found it funny more than anything.
    Really? You bust on this girl for trying to get roughly $6 instead of $3 for taxi? Better to pick your wars. If she's trying to con you into 600 K for a session when 200 K is a good day for her, that's one thing but come on man 3 bucks? Jajaj I have a favorite I sneak in, every other trip when my girl was in class. I would give her 20 K for the taxi and one day I followed her down stairs to give her a tube of VS lotion she forgot and I saw her running down the street to catch the bus. To her the 20 k was more valuable to her than the luxury of a taxi. I never said anything and I totally understand where she was coming from. She's a good kid, we have never even talked about how much or how long before or after, she just is happy with what I give her. Usually 200 + 20 for taxi. And she gives 100% every time I see her. My time with her is so hot she could probably get double from a lot of you guys because she's that good. I'll give her a gift from time to time but I don't change our price structure.

  12. #40471

    Todo La Noche

    Quote Originally Posted by Forever18  [View Original Post]
    I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?
    Seriously? You're so hot for an overnight that you're going to do it with a girl you don't know and have never met? Good luck.

    You might consider the advice from numerous other people in the thread. Never, never arrange a todo la noche with a girl you haven't seen before and don't know.

    When you're asleep in the night are you sure she won't go through your things and maybe steal your cash as leave? Or help herself to your cell phone and other things?

    The least important consideration is the money. 300, 350, 400, 500 mil you're talking about roughly $55 dollars between the bottom end and the top end. I personally.

    Feel my safety, comfort, peace of mind is worth a heck of a lot more than that.

  13. #40470
    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvThePussy  [View Original Post]
    I learned my lessons with TLNs. They are incredibly boring. We fucked / fooled around for two hours. I'm satisfied already. So we just lay around on our phones. I go to sleep and we fuck again in the morning which I am not in to because I like to take my mornings slow. I payed 300 mil for that. Never again. I don't speak spanish so I can't really converse with them and even if I could I don't think the conversations would be that entertaining. I'm even questioning my 2 hours deal because I leche twice in an hour and I just tell them to leave. I think I'm going to go with "150 mil mas taxi por dos leches" from now on.
    Well you learned an important lesson. TLN (Toda la noche) can be fun but can be an ultimately boring encounter. You don't speak Spanish, you don't have a friendship with the girl, what you effectively did was pay for two single sessions with the girl (the evening and the morning) and you got to feel her warm little body in your bed during the night. You certainly aren't out anything. A single session 150 + taxis vs 300 + taxis so you spent an extra 40 bucks at the current exchange rates and you learned that TLN isn't really for you.

    I wish all my learning experiences in life had only cost me 40 dollars.

  14. #40469
    Quote Originally Posted by Flak3  [View Original Post]
    Certain things are objectively better than others. Charmin ultra soft is better than dollar store single ply. A steak at Morton's is better than Denny's. 15 hours in first class is better than 15 hours in coach. JW Marriott is better than Motel 3. Winter in Hawaii is better than winter in the Gulag in Siberia. Field passes to a football game are better than watching on a 19" black and white tv. Going to prom in a limo is better than going to prom with your date's dad as your driver and chaperone. Fucking a nympho 10 is better than fucking a 0. Fucking a girl is better than getting fucked by a guy (this one may be subjective).

    But how happy each person wants to be is up to them. Would you be happier in coach or first class? Probably first class but it's your choice whether to be happy or happier or happiest. It's like the survey you get after eating or staying somewhere. Were you happy with your visit? What could we have done to improve your visit? Your experience could have been better but that doesn't mean you weren't already happy.
    Only 1 thing you listed is objective, except you introduced a false equivalence. A vacation is objectively better than a prison sentence, but a vacation in Hawaii is not equivalent to a prison sentence in Siberia.

    A steak at Morton's isn't better to a vegan. First class isn't better to someone who values price over comfort. The rating of 0 to 10 is subjective. Sex with a Nympho is nor objectively better. Not when, after barebacking her she tells you she barebacked 3 strangers today. And you went down on her.

    However, you missed the point. How do you compare subjective experiences between 2 people? Did you enjoy your steak at Morton's more than the vegan enjoyed her favorite meal at her favorite restaurant?

  15. #40468
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    - From life experience I think it's true to say most professional athletes will fail. Just like people in the music industry say you can be a great musician and they have made great music but they never received monetary compensation.

    -So sure dream big, go play sports, try to make a record, but also focus on the jobs that you can take in that industry that can sustain your lifetime for example can you be a coach and assistant can you get involved in the business of sport?

    The 1st lesson in business is 90% of all startups fail. Learn this fact in a book or university. Therefore it could be fair to say without researching that perhaps only 10% of WebCam girls will make a meaningful income, and it's probably even less because that is usually how life is.

    So to say WebCam girls will make Middle-class income buy houses and pay for university sound Unlikely. Some advice for a WebCam girl would be find the a profession with opportunities for growth where you can work and grind it out for lifetime. And then 3 nights a week try to get the web cam thing going, but you should know that statistically speaking you probably won't make more than a little bit for beer money.
    I understand it seems that way to you, and there is much truth in what you say. However, there are significant differences.

    Startup businesses fail by the quarter: 3, 6, 9 or 12 months and they close the doors. In many cases it's because they expected quicker success. If they had planned and budgeted to lose money for 12-18 months, many failures would succeed.

    Webcam models tend to walk away within the first 30 days, because they expect immediate success. I can't think of any model who stuck it out for 8 weeks who failed to earn at least $50 per day, which is a comfortable living in Colombia.

    I say that webcam models can do these things, because I know several who have. It's what I did for a year in Medellin, worked with webcam models. I don't say this stuff because I have 1 friend who once talked to a webcam model.

    One model was renting 3, 3 bedroom apartments in Poblado. One up by El Tesoro, where she lived, 1 just north of Envigado where my roommate and I lived, (rent free) and 1 at Ciudad del Rio, which was used as a studio. Combined rent and utilities over 7 million COP monthly. She paid for this from her income and her share of my roommate's earnings. At the time my roommate was saving at least 4 million COP each month.

    Will everyone reach that level? Of course not, but an income of 2-3 million COP is within reach of almost every one who sticks it out.

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