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  1. #48602
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    In my 3 trips to Energy, I have not seen a 9 far less a 10. 7-8 tops. My guess is 9s or 10s if they do come to energy don't last very long for various reasons. The thing that struck me is after 2+ yrs on my 3rd trip, I saw a few of the same girls at energy who had given me horrible service first time.

    Loutron I have seen and sessioned with a 9 but service was very limited and mechanical. After literally waiting my turn after another monger beat me to the punch, she was Condom everything, no kissing, and I had a hard time finishing. I realized I didn't like that kind of distant sex. Kissing, BBBJ and a sense that the chica is also into it some is important for me. But YMMV and others have reported better sessions. One of my most memorable experiences this trip was when me and my chica were staring out of the highrise window at the Quatro sur bridge at around 10pm with music in the background, after a few minutes, she literally spontaneously dropped to her knees, pulled down my pants and BBBJ me for nearly 10mins to completion as I stood there taking in the Medellin night view. Those memories are not easy to orchestrate, more spontaneous.
    La Isla you will find the occasional 9/10. Fase dos, I did not see 9/10's in 2 trips there, but wouldn't doubt they are there occasionally. However guaranteed lots of silicone!
    But I have never been able to find such memorable experiences in a casa environment. It's just different for each person.
    I agree with your ratings for all four places. Energy. I've been about 15 times and never seen a 9 or 10 (though obviously it's all opinion). Best bet in MDE is probably La Isla (if you don't mind silicone).

    If one is seriously looking to find lots of 9's and 10's in one place, I would head to Sao Paulo. I've seen as many 9's and 10's in a busy night at Scandallo in Sao Paulo than in 30 or so trips to MDE combined.

  2. #48601

    If it's that easy, why haven't you done it?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedWaters44  [View Original Post]
    I really like your style. If I may ask, what's your preferred method of mongering in Medellin then? I don't have enough energy for the centro scene, casas, or the Facebook / Tinder thing. Actually, I will cross the line up and pointing at the girl you want thing off my bucket list some day, but my point is that I'm lazy as hell. When I make my first trip, I'll probably just stick with SA and ask cool university girls I meet from there if they have any cute friends who like to party (thanks Ostee, learned this from you). I've been advised against it by vets on the forum and from RTFF, but god knows what I want the most is to connect with a 10/10 cam girl and convince her to come out for a getaway filled with good food, passionate love-making, and a nice ass Airbnb in El Poblado. Sounds so hot. The thought of even flying out a girl from Bogota doesn't itch me, nor does paying her a shit ton on top of making up what she'd lose for missing 3-4 days of work from the camming day job. It would be a once in a lifetime experience, and maybe a cool way to make a new friend. To be honest, I'm surprised it isn't more common. I'm sure there are a couple success stories out there. But then again, both girls and guys who make promises before visiting a country tend to be flaky as hell.
    Gone to Medellin and landed a webcam model that is? Why are you still fantasizing about something you believe is easier than sending a message that says "I want to have sex with you?

    Let's clear something up. A webcam model is someone who supports themselves 100% through webcam earnings. A webcam model isn't anyone who has been on webcam at one time.

    The reasons why more guys don't go to Medellin and have a few days of sex with successful webcam models are the same reasons why not very many people start a space flight company and launch themselves into space.

    1. It takes a great deal of effort, time, knowledge and money.

    2. After investing all that time and money, almost everyone fails.

    3. If you manage to succeed you get a few minutes of pleasure.

    Let's look at some of the things which you believe require too much effort.

    For Facebook, Tinder and SA, the startup is basically the same, you create a profile and start looking at women. If you want to contact the women, with Facebook it's free. Tinder and SA require a subscription. They all require the same amount of effort, but the most expensive option is somehow easier? I'm confused.

    I agree that finding street girls in El Centro takes some effort, but what about casas and strip clubs? A taxi drops you off at the door. You walk inside. You sit down. You drink a beer while deciding which one you want to fuck. I can see how that could just completely exhaust someone. The only way it could require less effort is if someone picked you up and carried you inside.

    The only thing that could be easier is Facebook. Once you've established a list, all you have to do is post a picture and tag yourself in Medellin. Then you decide which girl who messaged you asking to fuck, you want to fuck.

    I guess some people never figured out most of the stories in Penthouse Forum are made up.

  3. #48600
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    No, ur right, I have never seen a 9 or 10. I can't use the internet. In fact come to think of it I am blind in both eyes. And if I saw a girl that was a 9 or 10, I would pass her on to you because shed be too expensive for me.
    I am always weary of guys who brag about their ability to pick up great looking women and not show pics. Let me show pics of four women.

    I should almost not even mention this because guys will go on about how ugly these women are, and I do not care at this point.

    Anyway, I have been with all these women. The blonde in the black bikini won the national competition for best gymnast in the USA in high school like 15 or 20 years ago, and her body shows it. I loved that body.

    The blonde in the yellow bikini was on the cover of a calendar for the restaurant Twin Peaks, a Hooters ripoff. I still think there is not a nicer ass anywhere.

    The girl in the orange Halloween outfit was Paraguayan. She was voted the best hand ball player in her country. When I saw that picture of her with the Maxim models, I said she was prettier than all the other models, and she said, "You are not the only one. " I met her in a strip club where she gave me the best lap dance of my life. That is the last of the girls I met in the USA, and they all performed as well as they looked.

    The last picture is of the girl I think who is the prettiest of them all. She is from Medellin, and she is the one in the black gym outfit with sweat pants. I met her on seeking and paid her $100, and she was fine with it. I do not recommend her. She is a narcissist with a very cocky personality but she was better in bed, maybe a 6 performance wise, than I thought.

    She was on seeking as Kiara. I thought her picture showed she was a 10 and in real life looks wise I think she was a 10 as well. I actually had a guy here say he could get a girl who looked like her in El Centro. Shit, I could not find anyone who looked like her at La Isla. Some were close but none matched her.

    It seems to me that there are guys here who say "I don't know. She is a 7, maybe an 8 on a good day. " And those guys are full of shit. The only 9's or 10's in their minds are the women on their arms. Anyone else is an 8 a best.
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  4. #48599
    Quote Originally Posted by RedWaters44  [View Original Post]
    I really like your style. If I may ask, what's your preferred method of mongering in Medellin then? I don't have enough energy for the centro scene, casas, or the Facebook / Tinder thing. Actually, I will cross the line up and pointing at the girl you want thing off my bucket list some day, but my point is that I'm lazy as hell.
    Unfortunately I don't think it works like that, unless you are lucky to have met up with a like minded monger and got handed the contacts for a few chicas that way. I do a fair bit of screening, and find at the most maybe 1-2 keepers each trip. Now I am selective for sure, and that limits it, but so does my Spanish skills. In your case SA maybe a decent hunting ground, but it also takes a lot of weeding out. In fact I would argue it's more work than FB. IG is where I see a lot of hot women, but although some have reported successfully landing them, I have not. Now I also prefer anonymity and that probably plays a role as they aren't going to friend up a gringo without a photo, but I have to work within my limitations, I have not had as much success on the referral side as some have reported. Another thing I notice is the sex and comfort level is better 2nd or 3rd visit you are there. I have not tried the online agencies like La Celestina etc. But their girls photos and video clips are hot and some seem like 9/10's to me, Good luck and report back.

  5. #48598

    Money isn't as much of a factor

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    You are speaking a foriegn language to me. I just don't get your thought process. The only possible way your comments work out is IF you categorise a girl that asks 250-300 as a 7 and below, 350-500 as an 8, 800+ as a 9-10. Otherwise what you say is totally incoherent and it cannot possibly be any other way.

    I also am at a loss why anyone would want to pay more than 200 k for a girl. There are thousands, maybe 10's or 100's of thousands at the 200 k or less threshold. Their looks have nothing to do with their rate. Why would anyone use a service to pay more for no noticeable benefit?

    What am I missing here? Is this a religious or cult thing? Is that why people are making crazy claims?
    To some of us, we make a lot of money relative to the average American houseshold. I'm talking $70 k+, single males with no kids. Spending 350-500 k, isn't a big deal. And yes there is a very noticeable difference in physical attractiveness, not necessarily performance. Some of us want Instagram model / music video caliber type of girls, those girls will laugh at you for offering anything under 100 usd. Check out any Latino rapper music videos, you think the girls in those vids would take 200 k to fuck some random gringo (maybe if you look like Ryan gosling, but not an average dude). I'm very picky I only want the top 5% of girls after seeing lots of vids and spending time out in the field looking for Streeworkers, I wouldn't rank anything I've seen over a 6 (that's me being objective). The only true 8-10's I've seen are in high end clubs and on insta / SA. As a point of reference I'll link some insta models so you get an idea of what I qualify as 8-10, these are just random insta models for reference.

    https://instagram.com/aneeqafarid?utm_medium=copy_link

    https://instagram.com/sophiapesch?utm_medium=copy_link

    https://instagram.com/lauraisabelale...dium=copy_link

    I would rate these girls 8's-9's, if they don't look like this / on this level I'm not interested. This is why I'm willing to pay much higher. Someone please show me a centro streetwalker girl that could compare "physically" to this. Again, I'm only talking about looks not performance.

  6. #48597
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf662  [View Original Post]
    Your best bet will be after 10-11 pm on a Fri or Sat at the 2 Hi end strip clubs Fase II http://clubfasedos.com/site/ or Isla and the Hi end brothel's Energy and Loutron.
    In my 3 trips to Energy, I have not seen a 9 far less a 10. 7-8 tops. My guess is 9s or 10s if they do come to energy don't last very long for various reasons. The thing that struck me is after 2+ yrs on my 3rd trip, I saw a few of the same girls at energy who had given me horrible service first time.

    Loutron I have seen and sessioned with a 9 but service was very limited and mechanical. After literally waiting my turn after another monger beat me to the punch, she was Condom everything, no kissing, and I had a hard time finishing. I realized I didn't like that kind of distant sex. Kissing, BBBJ and a sense that the chica is also into it some is important for me. But YMMV and others have reported better sessions. One of my most memorable experiences this trip was when me and my chica were staring out of the highrise window at the Quatro sur bridge at around 10pm with music in the background, after a few minutes, she literally spontaneously dropped to her knees, pulled down my pants and BBBJ me for nearly 10mins to completion as I stood there taking in the Medellin night view. Those memories are not easy to orchestrate, more spontaneous.
    La Isla you will find the occasional 9/10. Fase dos, I did not see 9/10's in 2 trips there, but wouldn't doubt they are there occasionally. However guaranteed lots of silicone!
    But I have never been able to find such memorable experiences in a casa environment. It's just different for each person.

  7. #48596
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    I bet you have no idea what a true 9 or 10 looks like, and never fucked one.
    No, ur right, I have never seen a 9 or 10. I can't use the internet. In fact come to think of it I am blind in both eyes. And if I saw a girl that was a 9 or 10, I would pass her on to you because shed be too expensive for me.

    I have 3 grades. Thats all I need. Great time, ok, and rubbish. In my experience, there are plenty of great girls at under 50 k, thousands at under 100 k. And equally there are hundreds of bang average looking chicas that want more money.

    Like I said, I just don't get your pay scale. It is illogical. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The price scale depends on what each chica thinks she is worth, not what you think. That is all.

  8. #48595
    Quote Originally Posted by Caboteur  [View Original Post]
    I'm looking for a place in Medellin, that you can find 10/10 women no matter the price? Possible?
    Your best bet will be after 10-11 pm on a Fri or Sat at the 2 Hi end strip clubs Fase II http://clubfasedos.com/site/ or Isla and the Hi end brothel's Energy and Loutron.
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  9. #48594

    Like your style

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    Based on my albeit limited experience. SA girls tend to be a lot more variant in their expectations than FB in Mde. I think SA girls range from those seeking a SD, to prepagos, to even girls looking for a normal relation (and with whom you may even get a free lay). I personally don't think like the latter as I don't like leaving expectations. What's predictable about Mde is the flakiness and the chicas being late and unpredictable. It sucks but it is what it is I guess. Seen that both on SA and FB. Price wise, I saw an economics student off SA, a veritable 8 (plays soccer and quite fit) educated and very helpful. Arrived on time and we just had a decent time eating lunch, watching TV, talking even in my limited Spanish and walking around the mall etc. That said she was an average lay, very timid and limited. I also think she had just 1 SD with a local colombiano who was paying her 500 mil a week for regular access. That lasted 6 months and he moved on. I brought her a box of Ferraro rocher she asked for and she was happy. After spending nearly 6 hrs with me, and watching her haggle over indriver rate etc. I realized she needed the money and wanted to give her 150 mil, but just felt generous and handed her the 170 mil I found in my wallet then. But my objective was good sex so I did not call her subsequently. Another one, also a 8, spoke decent English and, I went on a dinner date to a Peruvian restaurant and it was nice, but in the end she declared she is not a prepago, but she wanted 400 mil 😂, and I wasn't feeling it. I had a session with a FB chica earlier that afternoon, so I suggested we stay in touch gave her some taxi money and we parted ways. FB prices were 150+taxi, but some insisted more and could be 200 mil including taxi. If you are Spanish fluent you can get them a little lower. One well known FB prepago wouldn't go for any lower than 250+ taxi. I did not session with her. I got the impression that those popular on the gringo circuit are sticking with the higher rates. Some may also have found alternative income sources like onlyfans and other webcam sites.
    I really like your style. If I may ask, what's your preferred method of mongering in Medellin then? I don't have enough energy for the centro scene, casas, or the Facebook / Tinder thing. Actually, I will cross the line up and pointing at the girl you want thing off my bucket list some day, but my point is that I'm lazy as hell. When I make my first trip, I'll probably just stick with SA and ask cool university girls I meet from there if they have any cute friends who like to party (thanks Ostee, learned this from you). I've been advised against it by vets on the forum and from RTFF, but god knows what I want the most is to connect with a 10/10 cam girl and convince her to come out for a getaway filled with good food, passionate love-making, and a nice ass Airbnb in El Poblado. Sounds so hot. The thought of even flying out a girl from Bogota doesn't itch me, nor does paying her a shit ton on top of making up what she'd lose for missing 3-4 days of work from the camming day job. It would be a once in a lifetime experience, and maybe a cool way to make a new friend. To be honest, I'm surprised it isn't more common. I'm sure there are a couple success stories out there. But then again, both girls and guys who make promises before visiting a country tend to be flaky as hell.

  10. #48593
    Quote Originally Posted by Caboteur  [View Original Post]
    Where can I find a google casa map for Medellin on this forum?
    WorldTravler69.

  11. #48592
    Quote Originally Posted by MojoBandit  [View Original Post]
    Those are the rates I pay on facebook any chica that is below an 8 is getting 150 k (plus taxi) tops, and the ones that are higher on my scale better have a damn good repuation for service is they expect to get anything over 200 k.
    Based on my albeit limited experience. SA girls tend to be a lot more variant in their expectations than FB in Mde. I think SA girls range from those seeking a SD, to prepagos, to even girls looking for a normal relation (and with whom you may even get a free lay). I personally don't think like the latter as I don't like leaving expectations. What's predictable about Mde is the flakiness and the chicas being late and unpredictable. It sucks but it is what it is I guess. Seen that both on SA and FB. Price wise, I saw an economics student off SA, a veritable 8 (plays soccer and quite fit) educated and very helpful. Arrived on time and we just had a decent time eating lunch, watching TV, talking even in my limited Spanish and walking around the mall etc. That said she was an average lay, very timid and limited. I also think she had just 1 SD with a local colombiano who was paying her 500 mil a week for regular access. That lasted 6 months and he moved on. I brought her a box of Ferraro rocher she asked for and she was happy. After spending nearly 6 hrs with me, and watching her haggle over indriver rate etc. I realized she needed the money and wanted to give her 150 mil, but just felt generous and handed her the 170 mil I found in my wallet then. But my objective was good sex so I did not call her subsequently. Another one, also a 8, spoke decent English and, I went on a dinner date to a Peruvian restaurant and it was nice, but in the end she declared she is not a prepago, but she wanted 400 mil 😂, and I wasn't feeling it. I had a session with a FB chica earlier that afternoon, so I suggested we stay in touch gave her some taxi money and we parted ways. FB prices were 150+taxi, but some insisted more and could be 200 mil including taxi. If you are Spanish fluent you can get them a little lower. One well known FB prepago wouldn't go for any lower than 250+ taxi. I did not session with her. I got the impression that those popular on the gringo circuit are sticking with the higher rates. Some may also have found alternative income sources like onlyfans and other webcam sites.
    Two of my old faves were getting 150 mil no discussion, and service etc was good. One of them after a night and breakfast, asked me why I am giving her this as I put 200 mil in her hand. Implying I did not have to. She was with me 14hrs and we went at it 3 times. So I think 200mil was kind of low. The irony is with some of these chicas, if you know them, they prefer to hit you up when they need the cash. They are atrocious with money management and have no concept of savings. So money to them has different meanings at different times. I prefer not to get into that with them but if you live there it makes all sorts of sense.
    If you are price conscious then mileroticos and laureles apartments and Centro street action/centro casas are your best bet. But it's like a flea market and you have to be comfortable in that environment, have some Spanish skills and be patient and be ready to go to less than ideal rooms (at least for me). I drew my own conclusion based on my observations, financial circumstance and experiences, but everyone will have their own opinion. Best idea is to check it out for yourself. If I can do it with my limited Spanish, reading this board and a few pointers from some helpful mongers on this board, anyone can. Medellin is a most versatile destination. And that can extend way beyond mongering.

  12. #48591
    Quote Originally Posted by Caboteur  [View Original Post]
    Where can I find a google casa map for Medellin on this forum?
    Here's one from the DonColombia site that seems pretty good:

    https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/es/map...edellin_368982#14/6. 2498/-75.5756.

  13. #48590

    Quite possibly the funniest thing I have read here

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    100% of the women I've found in Medellin have been women.
    LMBO. I am high I hope that is the way mean it.

  14. #48589

    Map Casa

    Where can I find a google casa map for Medellin on this forum?

  15. #48588
    I stayed there last minute for one night. The room was very nice. The staff was nice. No pool. I had a room at the front of the building. It was Sunday, so no problem. But the hotel is on a busy street, so I can imagine that on Thursday. Saturday, it would get noisy in the front. So get a room in the back. It is guest friendly. Of course, when I booked the reservation, I booked it for 2. Because it is right in Lleras (across from Patrick's Pub), the location, as far as being close to bars and restaurants) is excellent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caboteur  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys!

    I'll be in Medellin 5 days in Sept, I was looking for stay at Epic. Someone told me it's no problem bring a guest to your room? Your opinion about the place? Is it a good location?

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