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  1. #47459

    They sound like garden variety bullshitters, Miami is full of them

    Quote Originally Posted by ZebraStripes81  [View Original Post]
    So I'm sitting in Gourmet Burger near Lleras and two young gringos come sit down next to me because, well- there is nowhere else to sit frankly. Eyeing them over I think to myself these are probably two dumb Miami club kids down for a week on stimulus checks or other such goombah scheme. One of them is decked out in gold jewelry- watch, bands, necklace etc, which if real would probably be in the 5 figure range. This would not be advisable in Rio de Janeiro but maybe Medellin is a different animal? Please weigh in. The thing is he doesn't look like a dug dealer necessarily, a bit too timid. He's complaining about something that got in his eyes and looks like he's crying. I almost consider warning him about the danger of walking around with that kind of bling but I wisely keep my trap shut. Eventually I start talking to them and sure enough- they are from Miami. Duh. How long are you down here for I ask? Oh, we live here, for ten years now. I'm stunned back into silence spend the rest of my burger time thinking about how these guys could be employed-in poverty stricken Colombia-such that they seem to be doing this well. I'm not sure if Colombia needs any more drug dealers- so my best guess is that they are involved in the club scene somehow as promoters or DJ's. Even this though, defies reason as it's not clear to me that a gringo DJ or promoter could really thrive to the extent that you would be walking around with those kind of chains. Anyone have any guesses?.
    I'm guessing they don't want to hear advice about wearing shit like that, so they have a preset lie, he I've lived here 35 fucking yrs don't tell me shit jajajaja.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIunFoBzHM&t=202s

  2. #47458

    Dumb Money Whales Beached up within 3.2.

    Quote Originally Posted by ColombiaLover  [View Original Post]
    Good to know that prices are floating down in Lleras. Back to something more reasonable and normal. But I also suspect that the girls become good at "profiling" also and may vary their rates based on what they see. Loud-mouth gringo wearing short? More money? Gringo wearing jewelry? More money. Gringo staying at the Charlee or the house of putas (Energy). More money. Drunk gringo. More money. Gringo walking out of Gustos. More money. But if you are low-key, are willing to walk away, don't stick out as much as most gringos. You should get a better deal. And your post shows this. That price for good service (I. E. , BBBJ and CIM) is reasonable relative to FB and definitely below Gusto's, Tinder, and what chicas in the Parque had been asking 6 months ago. These chicas seem to view the rules of supply and demand totally opposite of what's rational.
    You are absolutely right about all of this. Before my current stay in Colombia I was in Rio de Janeiro for seven weeks, where the contingent of gringos is characteristically different and less easy to fleece. Generally speaking the Rio Monger is a little more sophisticated, experienced, and appreciative of the value of being low key-it's harder to travel to, there is an additional language barrier, and so usually its a more experienced type that is able to make the trip. In this scenario, DR is the easiest and most full of boneheads, Colombia is the middle ground, and Brazil is the farthest shore. At this point hurt and upset Medellin BM are going to start throwing a fit- relax, I'm not talking about you. And don't get me wrong, guys (gringos and locals) will post up in Rio termas with bottles and cheese spreads and just piss it away now and then (I'm certainly guilty of this) - but what I see in Medellin is just a lot more tacky mongers with little or no experience goofing off trying to impress their friends. A club like Gustos pretty much feels like south beach full of rich kid New Yorkers except for the fact that its full of girls that you can afford (albeit still overpriced).

    To your point, SW have an extremely sensitive radar that can pick up on all of this- the many guys that do come here without really any concern / awareness for price points are easy pickings. Conversely I've noticed that the girls in LLeras are very easy to bargain down if you start to walk away, and repeats are even easier. I had a SW come down from 200 mil to 100 mil because it was late on a Sunday night and she needed the money- she was at my place in 5 min. I said to her- "that's our price now"- which she objected to but finally accepted.

    It's a good situation currently, but as travel restrictions open up I expect the knuckleheads to flood in and break the market. This is inevitable and to argue otherwise is to be willfully naive. I'm thinking there is a nice window for another 3-4 months but come November / December it's just going to be a lot of dumb money whales beached up in the Parque bleeding cash all over the place. Good for the girls, bad for the dedicated hobbyist.

  3. #47457

    Hotel Lleras FB

    Quote Originally Posted by HotelAl  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone stayed at that hotel Lleras 10 and does anyone know if it's chica friendly? I've reached out to them but no answer.
    Maybe this way is better? https://www.facebook.com/HotelLlerasMedellin/.

  4. #47456
    Quote Originally Posted by HotelAl  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone stayed at that hotel Lleras 10 and does anyone know if it's chica friendly? I've reached out to them but no answer.
    I was there this past March. It is good. Completely chica friendly. Note: cash payment direct at hotel is cheapest.

  5. #47455

    Hotel Lleras 10

    Has anyone stayed at that hotel Lleras 10 and does anyone know if it's chica friendly? I've reached out to them but no answer.

  6. #47454
    Good to know that prices are floating down in Lleras. Back to something more reasonable and normal. But I also suspect that the girls become good at "profiling" also and may vary their rates based on what they see. Loud-mouth gringo wearing short? More money? Gringo wearing jewelry? More money. Gringo staying at the Charlee or the house of putas (Energy). More money. Drunk gringo. More money. Gringo walking out of Gustos. More money. But if you are low-key, are willing to walk away, don't stick out as much as most gringos. You should get a better deal. And your post shows this. That price for good service (I. E. , BBBJ and CIM) is reasonable relative to FB and definitely below Gusto's, Tinder, and what chicas in the Parque had been asking 6 months ago. These chicas seem to view the rules of supply and demand totally opposite of what's rational.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZebraStripes81  [View Original Post]
    On another note- Lleras has been great, I've been pulling from there nightly for an average of 100-200 mil for somewhat attractive ladies who will do BBBJ and CIM. Additionally I've enjoyed walking around Centro but am hesitant to pull the trigger because many of the SW appear to be "undocumented" and I also notice a police presence in the area. My recent experiences in Brazil lead me to believe Gringos will be targeted and "milked" in such environments. If anyone would like to PM me or whatsapp and give me some tips on how to negotiate this I would be much obliged.

  7. #47453

    Factoid To Consider

    Quote Originally Posted by ZebraStripes81  [View Original Post]
    So I'm sitting in Gourmet Burger near Lleras and two young gringos come sit down next to me because, well- there is nowhere else to sit frankly. Eyeing them over I think to myself these are probably two dumb Miami club kids down for a week on stimulus checks or other such goombah scheme. One of them is decked out in gold jewelry- watch, bands, necklace etc, which if real would probably be in the 5 figure range. This would not be advisable in Rio de Janeiro but maybe Medellin is a different animal? Please weigh in. The thing is he doesn't look like a dug dealer necessarily, a bit too timid. He's complaining about something that got in his eyes and looks like he's crying. I almost consider warning him about the danger of walking around with that kind of bling but I wisely keep my trap shut. Eventually I start talking to them and sure enough- they are from Miami. Duh. How long are you down here for I ask? Oh, we live here, for ten years now. I'm stunned back into silence spend the rest of my burger time thinking about how these guys could be employed-in poverty stricken Colombia-such that they seem to be doing this well. I'm not sure if Colombia needs any more drug dealers- so my best guess is that they are involved in the club scene somehow as promoters or DJ's. Even this though, defies reason as it's not clear to me that a gringo DJ or promoter could really thrive to the extent that you would be walking around with those kind of chains. Anyone have any guesses?
    There's a lot of gringos that live in Poblado and rarely leave Poblado. No surprise to me what you witnessed, albeit how they survive and whether they actually have lived in Medellin is suspect. They may have been blowing smoke telling you that, and are just visitors. And highly unlikely there drug dealers or DJ's, sounds like a bunch of dumb guys as you surmised.

  8. #47452
    Quote Originally Posted by ZebraStripes81  [View Original Post]
    .....so my best guess is that they are involved in the club scene somehow as promoters or DJ's. Even this though, defies reason as it's not clear to me that a gringo DJ or promoter could really thrive to the extent that you would be walking around with those kind of chains. Anyone have any guesses?....
    Sounds to me like he's living off inheritance and brought his buddy along.

  9. #47451
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    But there are a lot of small hotels within convenient walking distance of El Centro. A few even closer to Ground Zero. My reply was specific to you, and any one new to an area. I was mainly sharing how I "scope out" a place when I first arrive. I also used to stay at Hotel Botero which was within spitting distance of Nutibara, but they shut down. In that same block across the street and immediately behind the Nutibara (way before you are too deep in the Vennie section) I can see four hotels in my minds eye. One of them is immediately adjacent to a the small brothel on that block within 100 meters of the back of the Nutibara. Believe me, all the hotels in that vicinity are guest friendly. I recommend that small brothel, as usual, the door is unmarked but always open at a slant so the girl at the desk can watch the street off the reflection of the mirrored door. The brothel is not well known, halfway down the short block on Carrera 50 a, as you exit the back of Nutibara thru the BBQ restaurant, cross Avenida Maracaibo and angle slightly left. There is a 24 hour bakery and store on the corner. The brothel prices are good, when I was there exactly the same as New Life. It's small, sometimes only four girls. And if you need a nice quiet room to do your banging, feget about it. But you can take the girl back to your room. They will call you within the minute your time is up, and if the girl is not out the door right away, someone from the brothel will be knocking on your door. I made that place a last stop many times on my way home. I got very well known in there and the manager and the girls told me that brothel was a "first stop" for many new girls that came to Medellin from the countryside to learn the ropes. That translates to some nice fresh trim..
    This is all good except for 1 very important thing. If the hotel has signs saying "No sex tourism" you're better off going somewhere else. I've seen with my own eyes what happens when someone tries to bring in a girl.

    When you've paid in advance for several days, or weeks, you're not going to be happy to learn you have to go to a different hotel every time you want to get laid.

  10. #47450
    Quote Originally Posted by ABizzle  [View Original Post]
    Nice pics parcero, regarding the selection of nutibara though, it seems the only GF friendly budget hotel / BnB available in very close vicinity to el centro, so I thought staying elsewhere would incur daily travel costs to and from el centro for the mongering experience and this net cost would surpass the amount I would be spending at nutibara which would allow me to be walking distance away from the chicas.

    Now I know I'm a newbie and don't know every spot so any recommendations from you vets will be considered.
    There are places if options, of varying quality within a reasonable daytime walk to the El Centro street action. You can find rooms for less than half what Nutibara charges.

    However, have you considered what you'll be doing with the rest of your time? If all I was doing in El Centro was pulling 1 Street girl a day, I wouldn't stay there.

    The cost of a street girl is about $8 if you take her to the Nutibara, which means each day you spend $41. The same girl in a short time room is $11. If you get a $20 hotel in Laureles and spend $1.50 for a round trip metro ride, you get the same thing and save $10 a day. Plus you're in an area you can walk around at night, with lots of food options.

  11. #47449

    Expats, etc

    So I'm sitting in Gourmet Burger near Lleras and two young gringos come sit down next to me because, well- there is nowhere else to sit frankly. Eyeing them over I think to myself these are probably two dumb Miami club kids down for a week on stimulus checks or other such goombah scheme. One of them is decked out in gold jewelry- watch, bands, necklace etc, which if real would probably be in the 5 figure range. This would not be advisable in Rio de Janeiro but maybe Medellin is a different animal? Please weigh in. The thing is he doesn't look like a dug dealer necessarily, a bit too timid. He's complaining about something that got in his eyes and looks like he's crying. I almost consider warning him about the danger of walking around with that kind of bling but I wisely keep my trap shut. Eventually I start talking to them and sure enough- they are from Miami. Duh. How long are you down here for I ask? Oh, we live here, for ten years now. I'm stunned back into silence spend the rest of my burger time thinking about how these guys could be employed-in poverty stricken Colombia-such that they seem to be doing this well. I'm not sure if Colombia needs any more drug dealers- so my best guess is that they are involved in the club scene somehow as promoters or DJ's. Even this though, defies reason as it's not clear to me that a gringo DJ or promoter could really thrive to the extent that you would be walking around with those kind of chains. Anyone have any guesses?

    On another note- Lleras has been great, I've been pulling from there nightly for an average of 100-200 mil for somewhat attractive ladies who will do BBBJ and CIM. Additionally I've enjoyed walking around Centro but am hesitant to pull the trigger because many of the SW appear to be "undocumented" and I also notice a police presence in the area. My recent experiences in Brazil lead me to believe Gringos will be targeted and "milked" in such environments. If anyone would like to PM me or whatsapp and give me some tips on how to negotiate this I would be much obliged.

  12. #47448

    Sounds great overall

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    in Cartagena, my Chica showed up early as well at my Hotel
    That alone, is fucking amazing, jaja.

  13. #47447

    Nutibara is super convenient, close to what you want, and a good choice for a newbie

    Quote Originally Posted by ABizzle  [View Original Post]
    Nice pics parcero, regarding the selection of nutibara though, it seems the only GF friendly budget hotel / BnB available in very close vicinity to el centro, so I thought staying elsewhere would incur daily travel costs to and from el centro for the mongering experience and this net cost would surpass the amount I would be spending at nutibara which would allow me to be walking distance away from the chicas.

    Now I know I'm a newbie and don't know every spot so any recommendations from you vets will be considered.
    But there are a lot of small hotels within convenient walking distance of El Centro. A few even closer to Ground Zero. My reply was specific to you, and any one new to an area. I was mainly sharing how I "scope out" a place when I first arrive. I also used to stay at Hotel Botero which was within spitting distance of Nutibara, but they shut down. In that same block across the street and immediately behind the Nutibara (way before you are too deep in the Vennie section) I can see four hotels in my minds eye. One of them is immediately adjacent to a the small brothel on that block within 100 meters of the back of the Nutibara. Believe me, all the hotels in that vicinity are guest friendly. I recommend that small brothel, as usual, the door is unmarked but always open at a slant so the girl at the desk can watch the street off the reflection of the mirrored door. The brothel is not well known, halfway down the short block on Carrera 50 a, as you exit the back of Nutibara thru the BBQ restaurant, cross Avenida Maracaibo and angle slightly left. There is a 24 hour bakery and store on the corner. The brothel prices are good, when I was there exactly the same as New Life. It's small, sometimes only four girls. And if you need a nice quiet room to do your banging, feget about it. But you can take the girl back to your room. They will call you within the minute your time is up, and if the girl is not out the door right away, someone from the brothel will be knocking on your door. I made that place a last stop many times on my way home. I got very well known in there and the manager and the girls told me that brothel was a "first stop" for many new girls that came to Medellin from the countryside to learn the ropes. That translates to some nice fresh trim.

    If you go into a hotel lobby and you see a ton of signs warning against sexploitation, then you are in the right spot. In my experience those hotels are usually the best for mongering, jajajaja but they put up a big front for the policia. I am trying to be funny but it's true. My favorite short term by-the-hour Love hotel within walking distance from Nutibara and caddy-corner from Simon Bolivar Park has signs everywhere about warnings against sexual exploitation, and they never checked ID on anyone, if you catch my drift.

    I get a good vibe from you that you will enjoy yourself without any major issues, and the kind of mongerer who is a pleasure to assist. I am simply presenting options. I hope you get some feedback from other vets here.

    Gratuitous fotos of the three Vennies I will be with for a long weekend. Surfer dude, I like your idea of the all inclusive resort in Poblado instead of bussing to Guatape. I have never set foot in Poblado, avoided it in fact, but maybe now is the time, at these prices.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails choco thick and flame.jpg‎   face sitter trim.jpg‎  

  14. #47446

    Medellin July 1 -6

    Delayed report of my Medellin trip. Medellin looks like its 80 percent back to normal. For anyone on the fence about going, stop doubting it. Book your ticket ASAP before everything shuts down again. I stayed in the Poblado area and everyone was out at night till very late night. Only thing I did different this time from the usual trips was not go in Gusto's as much. In my opinion you can find just as good options in the other club nearby " Lleras Park". Crowd is lively, and everything else is cheaper then Gusto. Only use Gusto as an option to get contacts from all the 8/9/10's in there. Cartagena is next.

  15. #47445
    Quote Originally Posted by ABizzle  [View Original Post]
    Nice pics parcero, regarding the selection of nutibara though, it seems the only GF friendly budget hotel / BnB available in very close vicinity to el centro, so I thought staying elsewhere would incur daily travel costs to and from el centro for the mongering experience and this net cost would surpass the amount I would be spending at nutibara which would allow me to be walking distance away from the chicas.

    Now I know I'm a newbie and don't know every spot so any recommendations from you vets will be considered.
    You are staying 30 days. I think you can book a couple of days and negotiate for the rest of the stay with Nutibara for better rate after you arrive. Also have a backup plan if this does not work out.

    If you utilize Metro, the transportation cost is low. I personally won't stay elsewhere if my focus is El Centro.

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