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11-28-13 08:06 #13030
Posts: 410We see the world differently, or in defense of the Western Union novio
Originally Posted by wiltthestilt [View Original Post]
don't confuse what any of these girls say, with your own expectations. who knows what they mean? none of us are mind-readers. i assume that everyone means what they say, when they say it. it's all ephemeral. what ever the emotion of the moment, it just exists for the moment. and, commitments are easy to agree to, but almost impossible to follow. do what you can and what you want. regardless of her choices, you made yours and accept responsibility for them. it's a no lose situation unless one want to play the victim when expectations are not met. what we do or don't do is our choice. do something with an open heart.
it leads to only good energy.
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11-28-13 05:49 #13029
Posts: 389Originally Posted by Manny51 [View Original Post]
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11-28-13 00:51 #13028
Posts: 957Originally Posted by TweedleD [View Original Post]
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11-27-13 02:47 #13027
Posts: 389Originally Posted by Manny51 [View Original Post]
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11-27-13 02:36 #13026
Posts: 957Originally Posted by Sexmetv [View Original Post]
And by the way, its not to say that giving ANYTHING to girls is "payment." I don't think that anyone means to be THAT reductionist. Small gifts are fine. If you are in the US, small gifts are just part of the dating process. And buying small gifts or taking them out to dinner can make YOU feel good if it makes you feel like a man and fuels the illusion.
I am just saying to not lose perspective. A woman from another culture that you have difficulty conversing with due to a language barrier instantly falls in love with you at a pick up bar and lets you have all kinds of funky sex after a few hours / days? C'mon man!
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11-27-13 02:14 #13025
Posts: 389Great reference, LOL
Originally Posted by Sexmetv [View Original Post]
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11-27-13 01:55 #13024
Posts: 22Just to let everyone know, Geraldine, s Facebook page is back up. I just got back from San Jose, now making my plans for Feb MDE trip!
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11-27-13 00:49 #13023
Posts: 323Nice story
This reeks of fantasy.
Originally Posted by RiceRocket99 [View Original Post]
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11-27-13 00:36 #13022
Posts: 115Originally Posted by WiltTheStilt [View Original Post]
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11-27-13 00:28 #13021
Posts: 72You are crazy
Originally Posted by WiltTheStilt [View Original Post]
For those that think a novia is simply in love for love and doesn't ask for money. Yeah right! I had a fiance in Barranquilla for two years. I am young but she was younger. She didn't work because (it's not easy finding a job). Then she got a job, and started fucking her boss. Bye bye chica! $$$ rules most lives in Colombia regardless with how it is obtained. I've learned one thing, love can be found but if you have to invest any type of money or gifts then it is not love. Period! My fiance never asked me for money and never asked for gifts. But when the opportunity arose for a real chance at a job she screwed her way into the job. Now she hates her new jefe / novio and she is stuck working for him if she wants to keep her job. LMAO. Sucks for her but don't crawl back.
Returning to Medellin in Enero for my 37th cumpleanos. Looking to have some serious fun. Since this is my first real official time in Medellin as a single guy I am going to enjoy my two weeks.
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11-27-13 00:03 #13020
Posts: 500don't play me too close, i won't pimp you too hard as too short would say.
my only piece of advice is not to "invest." don't give a girl a big chunk up front expecting it to pay off long term in "freebies" or a discounted rate of some sort. square everything up front. i once paid 8, 000, 000 pesos to a girl, but after we went on a 45-day trip where i banged her in the ass raw three or four times a day and with plans (that she actually completed, surprisingly) to do it again for a little over a month on my next break. if you do the math on that, it's a pretty spectacular deal. $50 usd a day for all access, no holes barred sex with a very beautiful girl. you can't get an apartment for that kind of money in some cities, let alone tight little asshole to live inside.
avoid the bullshit of "pay me 'tuition' (or bill or whatever) that's due today and i'll come over and fuck you every day." make sure you pay up front only if you're about to get something right then and there, and if it's a long term deal then either pay in installments or a balloon on the back end once she has held up her end. it sucks to have to think about things this way, but trust me, they already are. only after very strong trust is established do i think this could work, and even then it's iffy. if they have the payoff in hand, they are not going to work their ass for it. knowing that the big pay day (and potentially more) is at stake will keep them on their toes.
this is not some rep001hing indictment of colombians either. there are people like this in every country and in some it is the norm. it's just one's way of being and some cases it's even practical (emphasis on some).
i guess i have a second piece of advice and that is to recognize that latinos and colombians in particular are more "in love with being in love" and more effusive in their language than most (read: all). these girls will jump to "i adore you" in a heartbeat and even if they think they are sincere, it means very little. if i were to say something like that, it would carry some weight and consequence, but surprisingly it does not to them. i am not sure how to articulate this but you will feel it. they will be ready to go to the end of the universe with you, but they will also stand you up without notice the following night.
i have had a couple of real relationships here, but they are absolutely dwarfed by the number of fake ones. just think of the scene in "the matrix" where the bald guy is talking about how he knows the steak on his plate is not real, but it still tastes delicious. that pretty much summarizes this hobby in colombia, if not the entire world.
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11-26-13 23:29 #13019
Posts: 957Originally Posted by Socker [View Original Post]
Just read through the forums in any country. They are littered with stories of guys who get taken after buying in hook, line, and sinker. Nothing wrong with having fun. Both parties benefit. Just don't lose your perspective. Its human nature to think that, "well I'm different. That won't happen to me." Unrequited love is sad enough as it is, even without the financial con.
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11-26-13 20:58 #13018
Posts: 309Saw the non-pro again last night for dinner, but I agree that even though I didn't directly pay her for sex, the money I spent on dinner, drinks, taxi, gifts can add up to more than getting with a mansion / fb chica straight up. But at least I get to connect with her on a personal level and it's not all about sex / business. It was 'actual dating' however you want to define it. It's a whole different experience, but either way, I pay directly or indirectly. Planning a weekend getway at Guatape.
OTOH, I called up the Blue Room chica Salome, out for late night drinks after the non-pro left. Every place pretty much dead on a Monday night, so didn't have many options. I agree MDE doesn't get going until Thursday, so Sun-Wed could be tough in finding decent places to rumba. And usually Sundays / Mondays are recovery days for the chicas with that guayabo (hangover). Anyways, get back to my apt and she gets a bit freaky and watches porn on my laptop for a good 30 minutes. So obviously, that turned me on and unexpectedly, during our session she asks if I want to do anal, which of course I had to oblige. She leaves around 2am and I pay her 100K plus taxi. I didn't even negotiate pricing, but she was happy with it and even wants to see me again later tonight for some Tuesday salsa night somewhere. So I'll see if tonight would be as dead as Monday.
Originally Posted by SavePros321 [View Original Post]
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11-26-13 20:23 #13017
Posts: 2927Originally Posted by Socker [View Original Post]
I liked RiceRocket's story about netting some nookie from a "non-pro", but it still reminded me of all the hoops you would have to jump through just to get some (dinner, taxi, disco, drinks). Even after all of that, there still wasn't any promise of her giving him any sex at the end of the night. But like Socker said, you end up paying for it one way or the other. All depends on when you decide to pay (before or after).
Dates are usually an upfront investment with no guarantees of anything. If you have the time and patience then by all means go for it. I'm still not sold on the concept of paying ho's a retainer fee (or "tuition"); especially if I am not there getting my fill and money's worth on a daily basis. All money flows end once I board the airplane back to the US.
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11-26-13 20:16 #13016
Posts: 179Originally Posted by Socker [View Original Post]