Medellin Reports

[Nclpimp]

Non pro. Had to sweet talk her for hours during her shift, took her out dancing to laureles and drinking. But her place is now hosting like an event with pros.

[JjBee62]

I've been to El Centro countless times and never seen a girl above 7 on a good day. Most of them being in the 5 to 6 range, average or below average looking. Same applies to Lleras. True beauties will always find other ways or venues to make much more money than working El Centro streets or the park. No matter the place, street working girls are always bottom feeders. Low end casa girls are in the same boat, just being less exposed. The difference is not only in the looks, but also in other things, like education, social skills, ability to speak a foreign language, self confidence, values and goals in life. You won't find (most likely) a college student wanting to become a doctor or lawyer selling her pussy in El Centro streets, but you can find her on Facebook or SA, for example, or at a place like La Isla.

I agree with Elvis, if one has high standards and is looking for gorgeous, intelligent women, one has to look elsewhere, and pay accordingly, or, alternatively, try a non pro scene. La Isla used to be good, but not anymore, I see very few doable girls every time I go there, but maybe I've just been out of luck.

I guess I'm weird. When I'm looking for a girl to fuck, I don't require a resume, education background, relevant experience and 3 personal references. I don't care if she can speak 6 languages, or only 1. I don't understand how anyone has the time to arrange multiple interviews and background checks for a piece of ass that you'll probably never see again.

1. Does she look like someone I want to fuck?

2. Does she look like she'll be an entertaining fuck?

3. Is she willing to fuck at a price I'm comfortable with?

No need to call previous employers, no need to check her school transcripts and no need to find out where she sees herself in 5 years.

I'm having trouble believing you've been to El Centro countless times. From about the beginning of August 2017 to mid March 2018 I was in El Centro nearly every day, often twice a day. I've been several times since. While I don't know the exact number, 250 times is a reasonable estimate. In all those times I've never seen a 5, 6 or 7. They don't carry signs stating their official beauty rating and without knowing the official beauty rating committee, I have no idea what the "experts" have decided.

I have seen women who I wouldn't fuck, ever, even if they were paying me. I've also seen many girls who I would happily pay over Facebook rates. The same is true in the casas. There are usually 1 or 2 who look damn fine.

Now, I'm not a Centro rat. Casas seldom appeal to me. These days even Facebook makes me yawn. However, I've seen the truth and anyone who claims all the Centro girls are ugly is living a lie.

The only time a girl's education, and other achievements is important to me is if I'm considering her for something beyond just a quick fuck. And if I'm looking for more than a quick fuck I would never look at La Isla, or on SA.

She can be fluent in 10 languages and have multiple PhD's, but if she's working at La Isla, or advertising on SA, she's selling pussy. She might be selling pussy for a higher price, she might accept alternative payment terms, but you're always going to be dealing with someone who sees sex as a marketable commodity. In simpler terms I have no interest in turning a hooker into a housewife.

[RamDavidson84]

RamDavidson84,

Depending on where you go fishing, 400,000 pesos can be a Chica fantasy, and a Colombian local would think your nuts for paying a Chica that kind of money.

Putting things in perspective, the Colombian minimum salary is about 1 million Pesos a month, so you Chica earned almost two weeks salary for perhaps a few hours of time.

I'm not saying you got hosed by this Chica, your post illustrates the "shark" attitude of the Chicas there, but you can't blame the them for asking for $ 200 USD for an hour.

I would do the same, and I can see some of the girls getting that amount of money easily.

However I wouldn't characterize the guys paying that kind of money as assholes..

Haha, I meant the asshole comment in a joking around sort of, sorry if it came off as harsh. In all seriousness though, I would never tell a man what to do with his money. If a guy did drop a million on a chica out of Gustos, then god bless him if that was his only way out. I just wanted to make it clear that most nights in Gustos and Parque Lleras, the girls greatly out number the guys and it's very easy to negotiate a more reasonable price. My rule of thumb is 400 k per hour and 600 k multi hour in Gustos. I am an in person more guy more than an online person, so for me I got to pay a bit more.

I know you can score some very cheap talent in Centro, but the risk to reward isn't worth it for me. Speaking of risk, even roaming Parque Lleras and other spots late at night doesn't feel totally safe. I saw several bad street fights there, as well as multiple fights in Cartagena. Not guys shouting, not two guys squaring up, but multiple people banging the fuck out with police waiting for back up to break up the chaos on several occasions. I also want to warn people that you cannot act a fool at all in Parque Lleras / Cartagena, especially if you are solo.

I didn't start my mongering career until 2018 and I am really jealous that the old school guys got to experience all of this stuff in the days before youtube and WhatsApp and all the other shit that has diminished the game. Must have been incredible Surfer.

[Nounce]

Like I said in my 10 rules of the Medellin forum, if you pay anything over $20, you are going to get criticized.

I think you let others influence you that you automatically choose the opposite position. What is the difference then?

[MiamiBoy1]

As far as La Isla being the greatest collection of beauties in Colombia, I found it to just be decent. I had no trouble finding an acceptable girl, but there were at least as many who didn't meet my standards. However, when it comes to strip clubs in Medellin, nowhere else can match the overall experience.

Several times now you've made disparaging remarks about the girls in El Centro, as if every one is the same. No matter where you go, El Centro or La Isla, Facebook or SA, you'll find a wide range of women, from butt ugly to gorgeous. Thirty minutes in El Centro or anywhere else will prove that. Unless you're watching who everyone else is picking up, you have no idea whether they're fucking 4's or 9's (for those who use a scale), and that applies to La Isla and El Centro.

And there is no difference between a generic girl in La Isla and a generic girl in El Centro. Any day of the week you can find a girl working the street in El Centro who will rival the best in La Isla.

I've been to El Centro countless times and never seen a girl above 7 on a good day. Most of them being in the 5 to 6 range, average or below average looking. Same applies to Lleras. True beauties will always find other ways or venues to make much more money than working El Centro streets or the park. No matter the place, street working girls are always bottom feeders. Low end casa girls are in the same boat, just being less exposed. The difference is not only in the looks, but also in other things, like education, social skills, ability to speak a foreign language, self confidence, values and goals in life. You won't find (most likely) a college student wanting to become a doctor or lawyer selling her pussy in El Centro streets, but you can find her on Facebook or SA, for example, or at a place like La Isla.

I agree with Elvis, if one has high standards and is looking for gorgeous, intelligent women, one has to look elsewhere, and pay accordingly, or, alternatively, try a non pro scene. La Isla used to be good, but not anymore, I see very few doable girls every time I go there, but maybe I've just been out of luck.

[Osteoknot]

Yeah, the mother was discharged and now needs medecine. Go figure. Well, if she agrees to see me again I can help her with her mothers medecine.

Tell her you will help her after she sees you. She has to earn it first, but don't tell it to her like that. And don't give her extra for the medicine, just pay her FMV (Fair Market Value).

I often say something like, "I'm sorry if what I paid you is not enough to pay for your (rent, mother's medicine, servicios, etc) but at least I can help."

Make it all sound altruistic and you are doing it because of the generally kind and warm-hearted person you are. The better she can feel about herself after she leaves you, the better it is for all concerned parties.

I feel quite certain you get this already, but a lot of the times my answers are framed for the general readership, and not just the guy who posted.

[Osteoknot]

It's always funny to see how other men judge other men simply on the statements that they make. Some men can make statements about money and others will say that they're broke, others will make statements about money and others will call them crazy, but if a person has the means to spend what they want to spend to achieve what they want to achieve what makes them crazy? This is supposed to be a group of men chatting about how to locate and achieve dates with girls in Colombia.

One thing that I can attest to is that after meeting certain board members you never know how deep one's pockets are and what one has saved up to achieve in their golden years of life. I will say this, you should always spend your money on what you want and achieve the experience that you're trying to achieve, let no one else's experience deter you or influence what you are trying to achieve. Pollo Negro is out!

Glad to see you are back.

I have my perennial date with GZGTG this early afternoon. I prepped her mainly because I like Dirty Talk and not so much because I am into predictions, by telling her I was going to spray my leche all over her face and take fotos, so maybe I will have something a little different for you all later tonight, jeje.

She agreed of course, without hesitation.

[Paulie97]

And there is no difference between a generic girl in La Isla and a generic girl in El Centro. Any day of the week you can find a girl working the street in El Centro who will rival the best in La Isla.

They are essentially the same girls, from the same strata one and two barrios or Venezuelana refugees. Just the former group has acquired silicone and better clothes thus qualifying as "high end. ".

And there's a lot of dimensions to Centro, casas, strip clubs, and street. "Glue sniffers" would be virtually non-existent in the first two groups. For recreation they'd drink and smoke weed, and maybe half would do Tusi. Elvis knows nothing about Centro and is even often wrong about the "high end" scene making me confident that his time in the City of Eternal Spring has been sparse to non-existent.

[Eloket]

Took a lazy morning then went circling around Centro. Tried to find the chicka I met the other day. Didn't see her. I was there a bit earlier this time. As I hear it's a "shift change" at 3-4 pm. I'll try a little later today.

Called in the Morena I had the other day at my hotel. The one that enjoyed the Jacuzzi a lot. I haven't had any issues after our BB experience so I opted for another one. Hard to keep up the convo this time but the mirror and some music made up for that. Pretty much the same encounter as the last time. Biggest difference was that I put my load on her stomach this time. I thought I knew what I was paying for and got just what I expected.

Today I have a FB girl lined up. Her profile pics are really nice. Offered dinner and hang out at my apartment.

Popeye is waking up after the down.

[PolloNegro]

It's always funny to see how other men judge other men simply on the statements that they make. Some men can make statements about money and others will say that they're broke, others will make statements about money and others will call them crazy, but if a person has the means to spend what they want to spend to achieve what they want to achieve what makes them crazy? This is supposed to be a group of men chatting about how to locate and achieve dates with girls in Colombia.

One thing that I can attest to is that after meeting certain board members you never know how deep one's pockets are and what one has saved up to achieve in their golden years of life. I will say this, you should always spend your money on what you want and achieve the experience that you're trying to achieve, let no one else's experience deter you or influence what you are trying to achieve. Pollo Negro is out!

[Elvis 2008]

It maybe a bargain with BBBJ but it's a lousy deal for most who want BBBJ.

Like I said in my 10 rules of the Medellin forum, if you pay anything over $20, you are going to get criticized.

[Eloket]

The sick mother story is one of the most common. If she gets back in touch with you it will be because her mother got discharged from the hospital and now needs medicine or her bleeding won't stop. I heard that one more than a few times.

Yeah, the mother was discharged and now needs medecine. Go figure. Well, if she agrees to see me again I can help her with her mothers medecine.

[Osteoknot]

Day started with my waking up to MMM (MarvelousMotelMaiden) on my Whassap asking to over, seems all has been forgiven.

She arrived looking like a million bucks as usual. Took her to an early lunch downstairs, my wingman came down and joined us.

Back to my room, not a lot of time, we needed to go buy a birthday cake for Sugar Baby as I promised to do the day before. MMM's jeans looked like they were spray painted on as usual, so we had quck sex with rear entry with her jeans just pulled down to her mid-thighs, shoes still on to save time. I edged but didn't come because I thought I might have a lot of choices at the birthday party, and that prediction turned out to be true.

We went and bought the cake a block away from Ground Zero near the metro station, see second foto, 25 mil COP or under six bucks for a small size round three layer cake. We were 20 minutes early and went upstairs at the love motel and dropped off the cake and made sure my usual room at the front was available. Went back down and the birthday girl and her two friends were waiting for us. MMM and I went several storefronts down and bought nice cake plates, forks and a knife, which I also gifted to Sugar Baby. All of us then went back up to my room in front, recently renovated with new paint, new TV, and a new fan.

If you were hanging out at all in the courtyard at Ground Zero yesterday, you heard us. The windows were wide open and one of the girls brought a speaker that had some juice. Maybe it's a sign of my age but I find when the decibel level is loud enough to cause hearing damage that it's not as enjoyable, but hey, it wasn't my birthday, so I didn't want to be the wet mop in the room.

What transpired over the course of the day was definitely a new personal record for the most number of girls I was with in one day, and there were two more, Freckle and Scarlet, when I got back to my hotel room that night. Problem is, I got so fucked up that I don't really remember them all but a realistic estimate would be ten chicas.

The party started at 2 PM and I didn't leave the room until dark, at 7 PM with motel staff knocking on the door and calling time. By then I was with one girl, a lesbian. She had come up with her novia after all the other girls had left. I spied them from the window, and had her girfriend's Whassap. I was negotiating with them on-line when they circumvented the process and appeared at my door.

My last encounter with the dominant butch of the couple had not ended splendidly because of misunderstanding about what services would be provided for the price paid, so we spent about 15 minutes tediously hammering out the details, and I am glad we did. Long story longer, the dom les got miffed and left early because her flakey girlfriend had taken a real liking to me. She was already asking for a spot on my List and so forth. Not a chance, I caught her trying to steal some of my tussi when I came out of the bathroom, she was pouring it in another bag. When I confronted her she denied stealing and said she was "taking a little bit to my friend downstairs" and she stuck to this line of puta reasoning for the rest of our session.

No reason to ruin the rest of our time, I even caught her a couple of more time on some early slight of hand moves with my pink shit again. Pity the poor newbie who gets her for his first Ground Zero encounter because she is the type of puta who will eat you up alive if you don't know the ropes.

After the rain stopped, we both went home. I Iiterally told her at least twenty times "no" to a propina or more money above and beyond what we had originally agreed upon. I did get her to agree that her day with me was a better than average day for her, but that argument is generally meaningless to the puta mind.

Came home, and Freckle was Whassapping me, offering to come over for free. Her little roommate was home sick with a fever. They are supposed to be in Peru, remember? Get this, Freckle took all the money she had saved for the trip and scheduled liposuction that she doesn't need on her near purrfekt body. Then on the day of surgery, yesterday, she tested positive for Covid even though she doesn't even have a sniffle (the dreaded false positive), so surgery is postponed for ten days by which time I will be gone.

She says she will fuck me for free but she and I both know that is puta-speak for "I am stuck with no money and unless you want me to sell my wet holes in the Park, I am going to need some help". Her little roommate is more quick to work Ground Zero than Freckle. This translates to I will fuck them both for below FMV (Fair Market Value) between now and when I leave on Saturday.

Freckle is the jealous type and makes me use a condom with the little one to dampen my enthusiasm, I kid you knot, jajajaja. By "makes me" I mean she told me if she ever catches my dick inside her roommate without a cuvah on my bubbah, that I will never see Freckle or her roommate again. An effective threat and she would follow-through in spite of her financial predicament. Plus, I probably would use a condom anyway with the roommate because she is actively selling her wet holes at the present time.

Freckle left, then Scarlet Whassaped and came over at 3 AM and slept until 7 AM. We had some good-night-go-to-sleep sex. Around 6:30 AM she left in a rush and did not take care of my morning wood, so I paid her below FMV at 120 mil COP. I got a nasty-gram Whassap from her about 15 minutes after she was out the door and I had to remind her that she was no longer my Number Two Novia, and that she would have to earn her way back up to the top, and that this is not how to do it.

Starting with MMM in the morning, and ending with Scarlet, that's at least ten chicas in a 24 hour period, and I am probably forgetting one or two. Definitely smashes my old personal record which was seven, I think.

Ostee Out, and I will Keep On Keepin' On, as always.

[Knowledge]

As soon as the subject of costs in other countries (usually Europe or the US) comes up it is a massive tell that somebody is trying to justify an above market rate. There is no need to justify it and it's nobody else's business. I am a bit of a contrarian on the last point because I don't believe any group of outliers can move the market. By definition outliers are statistical anomalies that don't change the prevailing trend. In plain terms there are not enough "whales" who pay Vegas prices to cause everyone else's costs to shoot up to that level. The real determining factor is time, as in the time a Weekend Warrior does not have to spare. Guys who have that time to spare can nurture deals that are not available on a point and click basis. No shade and no value judgment, it's just the way it is.

I haven't criticized him, and I won't. What someone pays is what they pay. It's worth mentioning he probably could have gotten the same girls for less.

As far as La Isla being the greatest collection of beauties in Colombia, I found it to just be decent. I had no trouble finding an acceptable girl, but there were at least as many who didn't meet my standards. However, when it comes to strip clubs in Medellin, nowhere else can match the overall experience.

Several times now you've made disparaging remarks about the girls in El Centro, as if every one is the same. No matter where you go, El Centro or La Isla, Facebook or SA, you'll find a wide range of women, from butt ugly to gorgeous. Thirty minutes in El Centro or anywhere else will prove that. Unless you're watching who everyone else is picking up, you have no idea whether they're fucking 4's or 9's (for those who use a scale), and that applies to La Isla and El Centro.

What price an escort in the US charges is irrelevant, unless you're picking up a girl in Medellin, flying her to the US and then offering to pay her for sex. The inexperienced monger might be amazed at the price, but anyone who has been around understands that you don't base what you spend on what you would spend in the US. Otherwise we would all be paying $200 per night for 3 star accommodations instead of $50 or less.

And there is no difference between a generic girl in La Isla and a generic girl in El Centro. Any day of the week you can find a girl working the street in El Centro who will rival the best in La Isla.

[Knowledge]

1 million pesos is $235. It is already a thing at Gusto's isn't it?

You are right according to what I read and hear second hand about Gustos. I'm not mad about it and more than I am mad about the five figure price of a Birkin handbag. I am more likely to sprout wings and fly than I am to get involved with either.