Medellin Reports

[Paulie97]

Had been considering Colombia but given some of this news and this post perhaps I should look at Brazil or elsewhere? What's the consensus of the board?

Safety usually isn't much of a concern for someone until they run out of luck, then their whole perspective changes. But odds are good you will come home with all your skin if you don't go around drunk, stay away from the white powder, and don't walk around el centro in the downtown area at night.

I've made three long trips to Medellin, the latest in February, and with each trip the Facebook girls have gotten more unreliable, not showing for appointments and not answering their messages for days. I'm not sure if they are getting more offers with more gringos in town, or if they are like many of the girls in Costa Rica who only want to work when they badly need $.

I had some good experiences at the casas but the numbers as to girls working was noticeably down from last summer. Turnover is also slow in these venues, meaning you see the same girls over and over week after week. So I'm not all giddy about Medellin at the moment though I was after my first trip there. Something new is often quite interesting but again, we are talking perspective.

[World Jockey]

I caught the red-eye in last night and stayed at hotel Botero little place across the street for 45 Mill decide to stay another night for $24 I like the room very functional after reading these reports getting a little scared LOL.

This is my spot when staying in centro. Can't get any closer to the airport shuttle and It also happens to be directly across from casa Yakuza. I also like how the rooms have a radio, nice touch.

I wouldn't be too scared there. The place is pretty mild IMO.

[Bbrocs]

Cartagena is becoming the same when it comes to chica friendly buildings. In January I was assured by the airbnb host I would have zero problems bringing overnight visitors over. The security at the building though gave me so much shit. The host was embaressed and tried to help me. Now I found a new building and a new host who also assured me that I can bring guests over night. I'm going next month and I'll see.

For Medellin, I always rent with no doorman in a small building over shops. I have the key and no one else.

Wow about Cartagena. Wife and I just started going back there again. We stay at one of the Morros buildings for that pool those complexes have. But I wouldn't know about chica friendly because it's just us two or the family. But I believe it. When I checked into Morros Ulta or Morros 3 I had to wear a band on my arm and only people with the band were allowed in. As far as talent we were partying out by candella and there most have been 70 working girls right out front waiting to be picked up. Was a buyers market. Was hot as shit there, I always make some wrong turn when walking around the wall city, especially after a few rums.

[Bbrocs]

That's really messed up because they mentioned the guy's name in the initial report. His family could have gotten that information. Thank goodness no newspaper photographers got to the scene. Nothing is to grisly for the local papers.

Couldn't agree more. There has been a rash of motorcycle deaths. I mean like daily here, Las Palmas is right behind me, I sometimes here the crashes. The news shows the bodies. I laugh with the expat how I thought the USA censored to much. I kind of miss the censorship on dead bodies here. As for the guy that says go to panama over here. I don't agree with him. I live here, I mind my own business I leave my watch in a safe. I say please and thank you. I don't walk down deserted streets late at night. Panama is expensive. Girls in front of Marriott asking for $200 bucks. I miss the early 90's in panama. Everything even the octopus I love there got expensive.

[Knowledge]

I believe this post based on the factual sources and based on my own experience.

According to the National Administrative Department of Statistics, Medellin had, by 2005, a population of 2,223,078 inhabitants, making it the second largest city in Colombia. The metropolitan area of Medelland in 2005 included 3,312,165 inhabitants. 46.7% of the population are male and 53.3% are female.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn#Demographics.

That's 6.6 more women then men per 100. So in a current population of around 3.7 million that's about 220,000 more women then men in Medellin area.

Colombia get around 3 million tourists a year, I think we'd hear about it if a large percentage were being killed.

[Knowledge]

I am going to continue to live dangerously as you characterize it. This is because I don't believe that the sky is falling.

I agree with you that there are pimps in Colombia. I couldn't say whether there are more than 15 years ago or not but I don't personally notice a difference. Anyone who is worried should go where others say it's safe.

Gentlemen,

May I refer you back to my post of January 22,2017?

It is difficult to see into the future but it was obvious back then the Colombian scene was changing and more bad things were going to be happening and I wrote as much in my report of Jan. 22 2017, only a few weeks ago.

If you read my post of January 22 2017 it almost foretells this unfortunate news referenced below.

From someone who has lived in Colombia longer than almost anyone else on this forum, let me caution you how it is now:

Every local girl in Medellin is now chaperoned by at least two men and these men now keep a close eye on the few women left..

[Dm605]

Had been considering Colombia but given some of this news and this post perhaps I should look at Brazil or elsewhere? What's the consensus of the board?

I've never been to South America. Any of you guys who have experience in SA, or CA for that matter, what would you guys recommend?

I've mongered in Mexico and Asia most recently in Thailand a few weeks ago.

Thanks boys.

Gentlemen,

May I refer you back to my post of January 22,2017?

It is difficult to see into the future but it was obvious back then the Colombian scene was changing and more bad things were going to be happening and I wrote as much in my report of Jan. 22 2017, only a few weeks ago.

If you read my post of January 22 2017 it almost foretells this unfortunate news referenced below.

From someone who has lived in Colombia longer than almost anyone else on this forum, let me caution you how it is now:

Every local girl in Medellin is now chaperoned by at least two men and these men now keep a close eye on the few women left..

[YippieKayay]

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Men, heed my advice, I have no dog in this fight, I am not doing business in Colombia, heed my advice, go to Panama City or Campo Alegre to meet Colombian girls in a safe environment.

When you get back home alive you will be glad you did.

I appreciate your post so don't take this the wrong way, but it's not different in Panama City. I know a guy who routinely buys tickets for Colombian hookers, sets them up with a room in Panama City, and meets up with them every night at Ashe club when they are done working. He's the handler, pimp, or novio or whatever the fuck you want to call it. I'm sure there are real independents in PC but it's not very different from what you get in Cartagena.

And the last time I went out with a group in Medellin it was two guys and four women with me joining them... This was in November.

[Wolf662]

Gentlemen,
It is not like fifteen years ago when there were 10 women for every man here.

According to the National Administrative Department of Statistics, Medellin had, by 2005, a population of 2,223,078 inhabitants, making it the second largest city in Colombia. The metropolitan area of Medellíand in 2005 included 3,312,165 inhabitants. 46.7% of the population are male and 53.3% are female.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn#Demographics.

That's 6.6 more women then men per 100. So in a current population of around 3.7 million that's about 220,000 more women then men in Medellin area.

Colombia get around 3 million tourists a year, I think we'd hear about it if a large percentage were being killed.

[StudPlayer]

Gentlemen,

May I refer you back to my post of January 22,2017?

It is difficult to see into the future but it was obvious back then the Colombian scene was changing and more bad things were going to be happening and I wrote as much in my report of Jan. 22 2017, only a few weeks ago.

If you read my post of January 22 2017 it almost foretells this unfortunate news referenced below.

From someone who has lived in Colombia longer than almost anyone else on this forum, let me caution you how it is now:

Every local girl in Medellin is now chaperoned by at least two men and these men now keep a close eye on the few women left.

It is not like fifteen years ago when there were 10 women for every man here.

It is not like that anymore and bad things like this unfortunate killing are what happen in environments like this with fewer women.

And for those of you in Cartagena, each girl at the clock tower has at least one "handler" watching her and you.

The girls cannot work the clock tower without a handler.

Men, heed my advice, I have no dog in this fight, I am not doing business in Colombia, heed my advice, go to Panama City or Campo Alegre to meet Colombian girls in a safe environment.

When you get back home alive you will be glad you did.

https://www.minuto30.com/ciudadano-e...dellin/357922/

WTF? A stabbing & now a murder?

WTF is going on down there guys? Or is same incident as the stabbing but misreported (hopefully)?

El Mechanic.

[Knowledge]

That's really messed up because they mentioned the guy's name in the initial report. His family could have gotten that information. Thank goodness no newspaper photographers got to the scene. Nothing is to grisly for the local papers.

30 minutes says he was dead in first report. Today they retract it and say he is alive. Crazy how they can just write whatever.

[YippieKayay]

I'm not the sharpest crayon it took me 5 apartments lost before I realized the writing on the wall and then planned accordingly. Our apartments are all in weird walkups with no neighbors mostly. Second floor of a hotel, buy a small building only way to survive here. Which is so different then the coast. In both Cartagena and santa marta the administrator herself or himself have signed me into the building welcoming us. Not so much here in Medellin.

Cartagena is becoming the same when it comes to chica friendly buildings. In January I was assured by the airbnb host I would have zero problems bringing overnight visitors over. The security at the building though gave me so much shit. The host was embaressed and tried to help me. Now I found a new building and a new host who also assured me that I can bring guests over night. I'm going next month and I'll see.

For Medellin, I always rent with no doorman in a small building over shops. I have the key and no one else.

[ThadMax]

I agree with you. I also assumed he meant re-confirming. It also dilutes the risk of a bullshit shakedown, assuming more than one party does not gang up on the punter.

Precisely. Both you and El Mechanico are correct. The official establishments are in strict compliance with Colombian law. So if they violate the law by turning their eyes away from illegal activity their business model will be crushed. And they aren't about to let that happen for a gringo tourist. Having an additional screen (particularly from somebody skilled at discerning real IDs from fake IDs) is not a liability like some are making it out to be. But an extra layer of protection.

My sense is that the people who have issues w / this are likely those who are engaged in some illegal activity and thus don't want to go through any official channels. If you are engaging in legal activity with adult women who have the agency to represent themselves. There is nothing to be worried about.

[Bbrocs]

Why can't you be responsible enough to confirm the age yourself? Since when is it security's responsibility to confirm the age of guests of people who are staying in private apartments?

Amen, ask to see there cedula. Take a photo of it email it to yourself. Better yet before they even come over ask to see there cedula tell them to send you a photo of it. The police arrested guys in one of our apartments one girl over was 17 the other 18. All of them were in cuffs. They were fully dressed chatting on couch, didn't matter its presumed the worst by the police. Neighbor saw a young girl and called the cops. It takes that much for a vacation to be ruined. This was 2 years ago. His fault for not being pro-activate to make sure they were the right age.

[Bbrocs]

Very good points. And of course I've acknowledged the anti-gringo sentiment. But I haven't run across many Colombians who have flat-out disrespected me or lumped me with the "Ugly American" simply after learning of my nationality. Granted, many think I'm South American until I open my mouth and speak broken Spanish. So that helps in keeping a low profile. But your point is well-taken as it can just take one asshole who has no class and just rampages across an apartment complex for the short-term rental agreements to Americans to be invalidated.

During my last trip to Energy. I noticed a lot of new signs up in the elevators with notices of newly enacted police policies / rules governing partying, pay for play, and even smoking cigarettes on balconies. I hope more Americans understand that Medellin is not Las Vegas. And you should never treat it as such. Hopefully it can be preserved for a bit longer before the Ugly Americans ruin everything. Which they are so adept at doing in other parts of the world.

Stay safe bro.

The new laws are crazy. The worst they can enter your property with no reason at all to search for what ever they seem to want to search for. Parties that disturb the neighbors are huge fines and get larger with each offense. Smoking, hookers strolling are all in this crazy cartoon advisory they sent out. Probably saw that in the building put up on the wall. Which reminds me why I don't buy inside residential towers with other Colombians living there. I'm not the sharpest crayon it took me 5 apartments lost before I realized the writing on the wall and then planned accordingly. Our apartments are all in weird walkups with no neighbors mostly. Second floor of a hotel, buy a small building only way to survive here. Which is so different then the coast. In both Cartagena and santa marta the administrator herself or himself have signed me into the building welcoming us. Not so much here in Medellin.