Medellin Reports

[Bart1]

A few years ago in the 9 stripper bars in el centro, 2 have since closed, it used be be 4 or 5 flaquitas to 1 gordo, now I see 1 flaca to 3 gordos and 1 ballena, Spanish for whale, saw a beautiful flaquita in Conejitas last Saturday who I had not seen in over 2 years, talking with her she said she had been in Singapore for 2 years.

[JustANewbie]

This did not happen to me in Colombia, but I guess it could happen anywhere.

I was not on vacation, I was a long term resident (5 years at the time), so I got to know a lot of the working girls and foreign bar owners. The working girls and the foreign bar owners of course pretend to treat me like a friend, but I know in the end, their business is to extract as much money as they can from me. I fully understand that and I am OK with it.

I guess some people who are in the business of introducing us to a girls, either through a set up date, owning a club or casa, where we can be "introduced" to a girl, get a pimp mentality. They think since they introduced you to the girl, they expect payment. That is their business and how they make money to support themselves. It funds the overhead to operate the business. They are not doing it for fun or a hobby.

So when you live somewhere for a long time, in a small community with a sex industry, eventually everyone knows everyone. You may not bang a girl on the initial introduction, but some day it may happen. So how long does that "referral" fee last..

I'm sure it's changed a lot with social media. Even I've been able to make quite a few contacts well before my trip. Despite this, I think it's more fun to see what hits my eye when I'm there vs. Planning too much. Planning beforehand can get you a busted can of biscuits when she takes her clothes off. So I'm not going to over analyze the situation. IMO, there's not much long term in this because last year's 10 can be this year's 7. I want the fresh girls, and those who stay there year round will always have a valuable service to offer, IMO.

If it's a big deal that an owner's girls are dating his customers on the outside, I would think the owner would have more leverage with the girls than he would with you. But a guy like me isn't going to be down there that often, as most of us aren't. I'd rather have an operator coordinate things for me and I do hope he or she makes a buck doing it. When I look at the overall cost vs. What it costs to date women in America, it's still much, much less expensive and the girls are 10 times hotter than what I could get in this country. Plus the fact that you are going to get back on the plane when it's all said and done. So I'm ready to be a happy customer for those who guide the newbies.

[Member #4398]

It sounds as thought you got scammed by a pimp of the strip club or owner. He may own the club or be a pimp there, but does not own the girls, same apply to any legal place in Medellin. Once you outside of any strip club or casa that charges a take out fee is all up to the girl to see you again outside their working place and you don't go back to the place to pay the owner because you saw the girl outside again. Pimping is illegal too.

For example. I have met girls at strip clubs, then later met them in a normal bar or after hours bar were they go to freelance. It could be weeks or months after the first time I met them, but I have had the strip club owners tell me I owed them money because it was their strip club I initially met them.

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[Web Connect]

So what if I first meet them in a casa during the day them see them at the strip club at night as was the case last month when I was here? Would the casa owner then track me down or harass me for money the next time I was there? I would just tell him to go get it from the strip club owner.

Where did this happen to you?

I have never heard of anything like this ever happening anywhere in Colombia.

Just how did or would an owner find something like that out?. From you?. The girl? Or some kind of spy. Jajaja.

This did not happen to me in Colombia, but I guess it could happen anywhere.

I was not on vacation, I was a long term resident (5 years at the time), so I got to know a lot of the working girls and foreign bar owners. The working girls and the foreign bar owners of course pretend to treat me like a friend, but I know in the end, their business is to extract as much money as they can from me. I fully understand that and I am OK with it.

I guess some people who are in the business of introducing us to a girls, either through a set up date, owning a club or casa, where we can be "introduced" to a girl, get a pimp mentality. They think since they introduced you to the girl, they expect payment. That is their business and how they make money to support themselves. It funds the overhead to operate the business. They are not doing it for fun or a hobby.

So when you live somewhere for a long time, in a small community with a sex industry, eventually everyone knows everyone. You may not bang a girl on the initial introduction, but some day it may happen. So how long does that "referral" fee last. I don't know to be honest.

That is why I was asking how Jake's business operates. From what I understand if you rent an apartment from him, it includes a possible tour or introduction to girls, that may not even guarantee to get laid. So if you are just getting info that you can use later in life. I don't see it as a problem. Maybe I am wrong.

What happens if you go to a casa just to get the girls contact info with out using the service of the casa? You just go there to get the girls contact info to meet her outside the casa. Of course you are not paying an entrance fee and the girl is not kicking back the casa.

I am sure a lot of guy have seen the entire industry change since the internet has come into use. In some location the casa or bar industry has gotten smaller because we can connect and transact business using the internet directly with the girls. Even finding girls who in the past would never think of working in a casa or bar.

[Judd]

Hola Fellas,

I went down to the Park Lleras area to grab a bite to eat. I ended up at a restaurant that just opened located next to Patrick's Irish Pub. Sorry, but the name escapes me. The waitress recommended the sausage with mashed potatoes. It was really good. The only downside was the glass of wine I ordered couldn't have been more than 3 or 4 ounces. There was a really hot chica sitting at the table across from me. I didn't find out til later that she was a working girl. Hopefully, I'll catch up with her on another day. A lot of nice talent strolling around that area.

I met a couple of Canadians hanging out at Patrick's Pub. They gave me some Intel on a club where the chicas supposedly go after their finished working. They said it was a couple of blocks away from Luna Lunera directly behind or near some place called "The Bam Bam Bar". I didn't have any luck finding this place. I seem to remember someone mentioning it on the board. If anyone knows where it's located, please let me know.

I checked out Luna Lunera located on Avenida 33 near Carrera 65. There was no entrance fee. There was about 20 chicas working. Some nice talent. The Waiter told me the price was 140,000 for half hour. That seemed a little high to me. I thanked him for the info and left. Still trying to find this after hour place, a cab driver took me to Kassandra Bellas Chicas. It's located on Calle 33 No. 66 be-107. They are open 24 hours. I went at around 2:00 am and they only had 2 chicas working. One skinny, and one on the chunky side. I believe the price was 70 k for half hour. Sorry for not knowing the exact price. I was trying to figure out a polite way to say I was not interested when the madamn was quoting the prices to me.

Late,

Judd.

[Mr Enternational]

For example. I have met girls at strip clubs, then later met them in a normal bar or after hours bar were they go to freelance. It could be weeks or months after the first time I met them, but I have had the strip club owners tell me I owed them money because it was their strip club I initially met them.

So what if I first meet them in a casa during the day them see them at the strip club at night as was the case last month when I was here? Would the casa owner then track me down or harass me for money the next time I was there? I would just tell him to go get it from the strip club owner.

[JustANewbie]

Honestly I don't know what the deal is, that is why I am curious. I am in no way trying to insulate doing something underhanded to cheat. From what I understand a guy pays a commission to be introduced to girls. I am fine with that, from what I see he is providing an honest service that both benefits the monger and the girls. But are you locked into paying commissions for the rest of your life?

For example. I have met girls at strip clubs, then later met them in a normal bar or after hours bar were they go to freelance. It could be weeks or months after the first time I met them, but I have had the strip club owners tell me I owed them money because it was their strip club I initially met them.

But I agree there is no reason to try scam or cheat and then not be welcome somewhere. Even more so in a small place like Medellin.

In all honesty, how many times am I going to come to Medellin? Maybe 2 or 3 more in my life. There are other places to go, and I would rather leave Jake very happy to see me vs. Feeling like I'm making contacts with his girls and spreading them out to other mongers. A deal is a deal and what ever it is about, I strive to make my word the standard I behave by. That said, it's really a non issue to me because, hey. I don't want to repeat anyway. Variety is the spice of life. I want to go to the Philippines, Ukraine, Latvia, and about a dozen other countries. This is just my first rodeo.

[Victor9]

Need to make reservation ahead of time. Yesterday I got a response saying that next availability is on Tuesday 02/16.

From what I read it books out well in advance.

But you should try posting on their forum: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...lanca-Medellin.

[Judd]

Hola Dudes,

Checked into this Hotel late Tuesday night. It's a really nice hotel The room I'm staying in is basically like a small apartment. The bed is comfortable, water in the shower is hot, and breakfast served in the morning was very good. They have a small lap pool on the top floor, along with a Sauna, and nice washers + dryers too. They have an exercise room, but it's just a couple of treadmills, and a piece of equipment that you may be able to do a few exercises. The area is really quiet at night, and about a five minute cab ride to Park Lleras. If I were staying here for a week or less, I'd book at this place again. Since I'll be here for a month, $80 a night is a little more than I'd like to spend. I booked a private room for the following week at a place called the Happy Buddha Hostel. It's going to be around $48 a night.

Every Wednesday, a group meets in the bar of The Buddha Hostel for a pub crawl. There was about 50 people there last night. It was all young backpackers from the States and Europe. Went to about 5 bars around the Provenza area of Poblado which is a couple of blocks south of Park Lleras. Had a good time even though I was twice the age of everyone. The Australian guy calling everyone the see word was pretty hilarious. Finally found someone who uses that word more than I do. Another kid we named Jesus looked to be comatose. Later in the night, this dude was salsa dancing like a pro. I guess even Jesus can salsa down here! Things got a little fuzzy towards the end of the night once the shots and cervezas started to kick in. Went to some after hour bar. Last thing I remember was meeting a Paisa. Apparently, I couldn't close or she would've been in my bed this morning.

I went ahead and joined a gym called Bodytech. They have several locations throughout the city. The one I joined is located in the Mall at Vizcaya. It has all the equipment you'll need to do a proper workout. A lot of big ass women to checkout while your grinding thru your workout. Price for the month was 247,000 pesos.

If anyone wants to meet up, send me a PM, or hit me up at my Hotel, room 8 dee.

Late,

Judd.

[MedellinGringo]

For example. I have met girls at strip clubs, then later met them in a normal bar or after hours bar were they go to freelance. It could be weeks or months after the first time I met them, but I have had the strip club owners tell me I owed them money because it was their strip club I initially met them.

Where did this happen to you?

I have never heard of anything like this ever happening anywhere in Colombia.

Just how did or would an owner find something like that out?. From you?. The girl? Or some kind of spy. Jajaja.

[Web Connect]

Whatever Jake's terms are, I'll comply. A deal is a deal and I honor my word above all else. I'm sure there will be plenty of girls to choose from so I won't need to do any repeats. I would like to leave everyone happy with me because I'd like to return everywhere with open arms.

Honestly I don't know what the deal is, that is why I am curious. I am in no way trying to insulate doing something underhanded to cheat. From what I understand a guy pays a commission to be introduced to girls. I am fine with that, from what I see he is providing an honest service that both benefits the monger and the girls. But are you locked into paying commissions for the rest of your life?

For example. I have met girls at strip clubs, then later met them in a normal bar or after hours bar were they go to freelance. It could be weeks or months after the first time I met them, but I have had the strip club owners tell me I owed them money because it was their strip club I initially met them.

But I agree there is no reason to try scam or cheat and then not be welcome somewhere. Even more so in a small place like Medellin.

[JustANewbie]

I like your plan.

If you don't mind later when you do your report, can you break down the expense report.

Good idea with going with established places like Jake's and the Mansion to get a lay of the area. Is Jake freaky about meeting his girls later, if you find one that clicks? From what I understand the Mansion girls are freelances anyway, so that is not a problem getting their contact info and meeting them later.

I am also looking at some apartments / condos on AirBnB for a future trip, but I am still not decided if I should go back to a hotel. I like the idea of a hotel because of the security and maid service and I also like to eat out when on vacation. But an apartment / condo could be a lot nicer and may give more freedom to inviting multiple girls over a day or at once with out having to pay an additional joiner feed. What made you decide on an apartment rather than a hotel?

Whatever Jake's terms are, I'll comply. A deal is a deal and I honor my word above all else. I'm sure there will be plenty of girls to choose from so I won't need to do any repeats. I would like to leave everyone happy with me because I'd like to return everywhere with open arms. There are plenty to meet at the MP scene. Besides, I'm not the wife up type anyway. Never one more than once. I've already got a couple of mansion girls I'm chatting with that I have no intention of hooking up with, just friending. I chose the apartment because it's very nice and right in the middle of the party scene, yet I can have my own little world. And the apartment is really upscale with glowing reviews. Besides mongering, I'm looking for a vacation and an opportunity to meet regular people without the stigma of being a gringo at the mansion. So we'll say it's 5 days of mongering and six days of vacation.

[Member #4398]

JustANewbie,

Your plan sounds good, but you are planning to spend too much for pussy. Keep in mind you are going to be in Colombia and you need to start thinking in Colombian pesos COP and not dollars. 200 USD is about 67800 o COP at current conversion which more than the month salary in Colombia. What I am trying to say is that $200 is a lot of money in Colombia. For example, for 1 hour with a chica in New Life, an 8, a 9 and even a 10 type of girl, is just 70 k COP or just 20 USD, haft hour 40 k or 12 USD. Even if you go to the highest end casa like Loutron (200-250 K that is just 70-80 USD). You can also save a lot with accommodations once you become comfortable and familiar with Medellin and rent an apartment by day or find a budget chica friendly hotel in an area you like. Believe it or not but in my last trip which was two full weeks, I spent about 1000 USD total and that included my flight from NY (480 USD), and the rest I spent on good food, several tours, and about 13 chicas, and accommodations, etc but I was only getting girls from the centro casas, and alternated staying in a hostel in Poblado (30 K or 8 USD per day) and an aparta studio in Laureles (90 k or 27 USD per night). Lastly, I would advised you not to share too much to people about finances in Colombia and to keep what you plan to or have to spend to yourself because you could attract thieves and scammers. Even in this board there are mongers that cannot be trusted and want your money or an easy opportunity. As they say in Colombia, "Don't give Papaya, or they are going to take it from you. And Have fun.

Well, it's looking like 3 to 4 days at Jake's, a day or two at the mansion, and the rest of the time (6 nights) in a very nice apartment I rented in the Parque LLeras. It's great to have a way to read up on these trips and get some contacts. Long live the monger boards! I have expanded my budget to $3000 for this trip. No sense on being too cheap to have fun! I should have around $150 a day for mongering, which isn't a great amount, but it should do the trick. I am not so much concerned with racking up huge numbers rather than saving my opportunities for the girls who really catch my eye. In my mind, one hot one is worth several average ones. I'd rather pay $200 for a 10 than $50 each for four 7's. Just how I want to spend my money this trip.
As you do anything, you become more proficient and you learn how to get a better value for the $. The plan is to make a lot of contacts at the Mansion for my fake FB account for the chicas. Well, you guys know the rest.

[Web Connect]

Is it possible to arrange a room once you are already down there? Is it typically full with all rooms sold out?

From what I read it books out well in advance.

But you should try posting on their forum: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...lanca-Medellin.

[Web Connect]

Well, it's looking like 3 to 4 days at Jake's, a day or two at the mansion, and the rest of the time (6 nights) in a very nice apartment I rented in the Parque LLeras. It's great to have a way to read up on these trips and get some contacts. Long live the monger boards! I have expanded my budget to $3000 for this trip. No sense on being too cheap to have fun! I should have around $150 a day for mongering, which isn't a great amount, but it should do the trick. I am not so much concerned with racking up huge numbers rather than saving my opportunities for the girls who really catch my eye. In my mind, one hot one is worth several average ones. I'd rather pay $200 for a 10 than $50 each for four 7's. Just how I want to spend my money this trip.

As you do anything, you become more proficient and you learn how to get a better value for the $. The plan is to make a lot of contacts at the Mansion for my fake FB account for the chicas. Well, you guys know the rest.

I like your plan.

If you don't mind later when you do your report, can you break down the expense report.

Good idea with going with established places like Jake's and the Mansion to get a lay of the area. Is Jake freaky about meeting his girls later, if you find one that clicks? From what I understand the Mansion girls are freelances anyway, so that is not a problem getting their contact info and meeting them later.

I am also looking at some apartments / condos on AirBnB for a future trip, but I am still not decided if I should go back to a hotel. I like the idea of a hotel because of the security and maid service and I also like to eat out when on vacation. But an apartment / condo could be a lot nicer and may give more freedom to inviting multiple girls over a day or at once with out having to pay an additional joiner feed. What made you decide on an apartment rather than a hotel?