Medellin Reports

[Fun Luvr]

... are there vendors and locals following you around in Medellin, just like they do in Cartagena?

No. No more commend necessary.

[GringoItaliano]

My fifth visit to Medellin (MDE) was my least satisfying trip there so far. I attribute this sub-par experience to: 1) unfavorable trends in the Facebook scene; 2) the loss of intel on individual Facebook girls due to the breakdown of a MDE-specific forum that I previously used to find reputable talent; and 3) my search for "fresh meat" among previously unknown Facebook girls. The combination of higher prices and lower quality and reliability on Facebook lowers MDE's ranking in my book, closer to that of Bogota. I will still return to MDE, but with a more conservative approach. If nothing else, this trip taught me the value of the many good contacts that I have developed there over the years.

I had hoped to return to MDE earlier in 2021, but the combination of Colombian and USA Testing requirements deterred me. By the time that I overcame this reluctance, MDE renewed restrictions for Easter and then riots started. The coast was clear in June, with the lifting of MDE restrictions and the PCR requirement and the end of riots. I fulfilled the USA Test requirement with an at-home antigen test from a USA Lab. I bought them online, took one to MDE, and did it in my crib with the lab via webcam. This resolved my concerns about a botched test yielding a false positive and triggering quarantine.

I would normally choose my lineup by using a mongering forum focused on MDE, with reviews of Facebook girls. That forum is still online but unusable due to technical problems that its owner has not fixed. The loss of this intel was a major blow to my pipeline. Without an intel-based choice of new prospects, I decided to make a virtue out of necessity and focus on "fresh meat," or girls with no track record. I have heard enough mongers lament the focus of so many guys on a handful of well-known girls and praise the virtue of finding their own pristine gems that I decided to try it more than before.

I saw the first signs of negative changes in the local Facebook scene on my last (November 2020) trip. I thought at the time that those few experiences were: random flukes; the occasional downside of seeking "fresh meat;" or temporary hiccups on the road to recovery from one of the world's longest lockdowns. These problems persisted and worsened since my last trip, perhaps due to the combination of renewed restrictions and the riots this spring. Many mongers have feared MDE would become another Costa Rica; perhaps that day has finally come. I believe that the precipitating factor was not hordes of ill-advised gringos, but the general insanity and ridiculousness of the past year and half.

The most measurable change has been the increase in many Facebook girls' asking prices. Historically, only a small fraction of girls would ask for more than the usual 150 k-200 k COP plus taxi, for which there was typically some clear reason, such as appearance, reputation, or special services. On this trip, the proportion of girls asking for more than the historic norm without an obvious justification grew massively. Such quotes of 250-300 k were almost as common as those in the historic price range. This upward trend was less common among better-known girls, who usually respected historic prices. Perhaps this shift is due in part to an influx of new girls motivated by economic hardship. The economic deprivation of the past year and half must be a major factor across the board, as the girls seek to make up for lost income by increasing prices. Economic logic would suggest lowering prices in response to low demand, but since when does logic have any role in their thinking?

One of the sharper girls suggested that increased COP prices were adjustments for changes in the USD-COP exchange rate in the past year and a half, during which COP has lost much of its value against USD. It was stable at around 3000:1 for a long time but has decreased to around 3800:1 in the past year and a half of economic insanity. In other words, some have started pegging the COP prices to the USD.

Some of them took this practice further and simply quoted prices in USD. That happened a few times on my last trip and even more on this trip. I asked them about this and they said that they acquired that habit in Panama, from which they had returned to MDE after lockdowns and restrictions disrupted the scene there. These prices, usually $100 USD, were even more inflated than increased COP prices.

The rise of web cam work and the online sale of sexual content by many Facebook girls as an alternate source of income due to lockdowns and other restrictions may have changed earning expectations. One of them justified higher prices by claiming that she could earn as much from online sex work as the historic normal prices for citas, but from the comfort of her home and without having to fuck gringos.

The riots earlier this year must have had some impact on the scene, beyond the loss of income from foreign mongers staying home for safety reasons. Perhaps it filled their heads with bad social or economic ideas or encouraged them to assert their perceived rights and interests. One girl's Facebook profile warned supporters of President Duque and Colombian police that she would not speak to them, in an uncanny echo of statements about Trump supporters that many USA Women include on their social media and dating profiles. I also noticed USA -influenced graffiti in MDE, such as "ACAB," or "All Cops Are Bastards. " Considering the damage that such ideas are doing to our own society, it would not be surprising if their export to Colombia is damaging and corrupting that society as well.

There has clearly been a negative change in many Facebook girls' attitudes. Before, one key factor that had repeatedly brought me back to MDE, more than any other mongering destination, was the way that the girls treated me and their GFE vibe. The girls were generally nicer to me and more pleasant company than elsewhere. While I could still certainly find many GFE vibes on this trip, never before have I dismissed so many online prospects because of bad vibes and unpleasant attitudes that I sensed.

Even more frustrating was the notorious paisa flakiness. It is a long-standing problem that I saw before; I had learned to accept a certain modicum of flakiness, e. G. Arriving 15-20 minutes late, as "the nature of the beast. " On this trip the flakiness skyrocketed off the charts and was more egregious than I had ever seen. Less than half of the citas that I arranged actually occurred. They just blew me off without following up, or they failed to contact me to confirm or cancel within a window of time that I had specified. I used to think that this flakiness was a cultural feature or due to Third World logistical challenges, but now I recognize that it is just disrespect. This realization lowered my opinion of MDE.

For example, one girl that blew off our cita had the chutzpah to contact me a few days later to ask if I still wanted a cita. I told her that she was persona non grata due to her failure to cancel responsibly, as we had agreed. Another girl told me an obvious lie. She claimed that she had overslept and just woken up (as if that were a valid excuse! But I had seen on WhatsApp that she had read and ignored my earlier message when she was supposedly sleeping. Only one girl canceled responsibly, with many hours of advance notice more than what I had asked; she arrived on time for the rescheduled cita.

This trip was the first time that I encountered blatant dishonesty in the form of catfishing or bait-and-switch. Two of the girls that showed up for citas were not the girls from their Facebook photos. One of them resembled the girl in the photos enough that she might have been a much less attractive sister or cousin. The other one was cute but a totally different body type from the girl in the photos. In both cases the girls were slow to remove face masks after exiting taxis, presumably in an effort to continue the deception as long as possible as if they thought that I would not eventually notice! Another girl did match her photos but reneged on our agreement for a specific service. The catfishing rattled my confidence in the Facebook pipeline, which I had come to trust to some degree on prior trips. Girls might have had unduly flattering but otherwise genuine pictures or found ways to hide their physical flaws before, but it was not until this trip that I had to wonder if they were totally fake.

For those citas that did occur, the quality of the performances was down on average, particularly with "fresh meat. " I attribute this lower-quality performance to either half-assed attitudes or a lack of erotic skills, depending on the girl. With that said, I did find some good performers among the girls that were new to me but had some track record with other mongers. I will add them to my roster for future trips.

A few days into my week-long trip, it became clear that my strategy was not working. I abandoned my quest for "fresh meat" and limited myself to Facebook girls that I had seen before, or that already had reputations. This shift salvaged the trip and made it worthwhile. Their performances were closer to what I had previously experienced. I also did two overnight citas with girls that I had seen before, one of whom will become a regular overnighter for future trips. Another one of my girls from a previous trip has improved her skills quite a bit since I last saw her, so I will make her a priority on future visits.

I had two backups for when Facebook citas flaked: Centro street meat during the day and La Isla at night. I found a stacked Venezuelan "diamond in the rough" in Centro. She delivered an enthusiastic performance at a fraction of the price that Facebook girls sought. We spent so much time together that the short-time hotel staff came to kick us out of the room, but she did not ask for more money. I got her contact details and hope to invite her to my crib on a future trip, once Venezuelans in Colombia are legally documented. This contrast with my Facebook experience reminded me of the virtues of street meat and made me look forward to my next visit to Bogota's Santa Fe district. La Isla yielded two good sessions on a predictably busy Saturday night but was less productive during the week.

On a separate note, I was more successful in getting girls to agree to BBBJ than on any other prior MDE trip. I only had to discard a few online prospects because they insisted on CBJ. I think that this greater success was due to a change in my approach. I previously used conjugations of the phrase "chupar sin condon," in the interest of maximum clarity. This time I used the subtler phrase "oral natural," taking a more delicate, indirect approach to what some girls view as a sensitive issue.

Some mongers predicted that they would find huge numbers of hot girls eager to fuck their brains out at rock-bottom prices once this insanity subsided and mongering resumed with some semblance of normalcy. Suffice it to say that, not only were these predictions wrong, but the opposite may turn out to be true in some cases. It would be ironic if the prediction of MDE turning into Costa Rica came true not because of clueless gringo hordes killing the market, but in connection with their extended absence.

A key selling point of MDE's Facebook scene for me was that it yielded consistent but moderate quality at medium prices, compared to the extremes of Cartagena and Bogota. I now find this selling point to be less true than before, as prices increase while quality and reliability decrease. It is frustrating and ironic to sit in your crib with many hot girls blowing up your phone for a cita as you wait around for the one that you chose to not show up, or to show up an hour late and deliver a half-assed performance at a higher price. This frustrating irony makes Santa Fe in Bogota, with its lower prices and the opportunity to scope out and pull girls in person and on the spot, an increasingly appealing alternative. The many stacked girls in Santa Fe are also a better fit for my personal tastes than the MDE flacas.

I will return to MDE with more conservative Facebook lineups. I used to default to girls that were new to me and only repeated with girls I already knew as backup. In the future, girls I already know will be priorities, as I know enough of them by now to rely on that talent pool. I will continue to seek new girls but focus on those with good reputations. I will make "fresh meat" a low priority and vet a much smaller number of unknown girls more vigorously. Of course, that task would be more productive if someone could fix that broken MDE forum. It would be a shame to lose such an intel goldmine.

[Surfer500]

Final through, There is really no Asian's in Colombia, I saw probably a handful during the 8 days I was there. Medellin weather is amazing. You can get by with no Spanish but you really don't want to. One night I walk out to grub my friend some bandage, because he cut his finger and I didn't bring my phone. When I got to the pharmacy, the pharmacist can't understand my hand gesture for bandage, luckily there was an expat their to help me out. Also, trying to use google translate on a phone, to read the menu on another phone looks super dumb. I am now working on my Spanish and planning a return trip to Medellin in October.

Great report, we usually see first time reports asking stupid questions which could of been answered if the poster had RTFF.

Anyways, working on your Spanish will greatly enhance your experience's in Colombia which you figured out.

[Surfer500]

I like them young and unspoiled if I can get them. I have had a few high school girls myself. They are 18, but still in school. For me, that makes it extra hot. If you can get them to wear their uniform, all the better. The HS girls I've had are not prepagos (at least not yet), so getting them fresh with no baby damage, cellulite, fat without much mileage is great. They often lack some experience, but that's where the teaching comes into play. And that can be fun also, especially when they are open to learning.

I like them around 30, not an 18 year old cheerleader that can't take the lumber. A nasty horny 30 year old will give me a run for my money, an 18 year old will just be to giggly for me. On the other hand though, an 18 year old as you described with a killer body can be a hell of a turn if you engage them to explore their sexuality. I find it interesting how varied everyone's personal tastes are in women, with no taste being right or wrong.

[Surfer500]

Of course man, you do you and who care what other say. Honestly, I still walk el Centro once a while but always walk away disappointed. Once a while, I see members posted that they met a 9 in Centro for have her for 30 k or something. I'm like FUCK, I want a 9 for 30 k and I walked around then walked away disappointed.

I'm just saying, base on the scale that was post recently. It's hard to find a 7 in el Centro. You can forget the 9-10. Some members posted meeting 9-10 in Centro, they use a different scale. I'm sure once a while you find a unicorn, that is like hitting the lottery. For a normal Joe, that visit Medellin once a while you're not going to find that. It's better to use different venue (FB, Casa, etc.).

Centro most definitely is not for guys whose preferences are for very hot and pretty chicas, albeit there are a few. For guys without a "must" to have a killer pretty faced Chica, there's a lot to be had there, if you have the time and patience to work the place.

[Mr Enternational]

When I got to the pharmacy, the pharmacist can't understand my hand gesture for bandage, luckily there was an expat their to help me out. Also, trying to use google translate on a phone, to read the menu on another phone looks super dumb. I am now working on my Spanish and planning a return trip to Medellin in October.

LOL. Man that was a great report. Looks like you made a lot of memories and gained a lot of experience.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Thank you for a realistic report. I read it with pain but a great read, LOL. It almost seems like you were in a desert..

I read it with pain.

Well, your concision is "painful". Jajajajaja.

[Mojo Bandit]

Hello guys,

I have decided to share a little trip report about my first visit to Colombia.

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Thank you very much for taking the time to give such a detailed report on your trip, this was obviously above and beyond the usual efforts. In fact you did such a detailed and honest job that I hate to say anything critical so please be assured that this is only a suggestion. Some guys go only to Medellin and some guys go only to Cartagena, some also go to both. But that means that some people only read the Cartagena Reports thread, and some people only read the Medellin Reports thread, but you have your report on both cities in the Medellin Reports thread, You obviously do not need to write anything else but maybe copy the Cartagena part of the report and paste it in the Cartagena Reports thread.

[JjBee62]

Pussy was never meant to be bought online, I don't buy food or clothes or cars online either.

Nevermind all the bait and switch, F2F is the only way to go, espec if you're working from a position of strength jajajaaa.

Some might prefer to shop behind the curtain of the portal one is using.

Speaking of curtains, I think its funny, in some of the casas in MDE, they have a curtain the putas hide behind, be careful.

If there's a dood sitting to see the viewing they don't want to go with they won't come out and you won't see them either jajajajaja.

Nothing was originally meant to be done online. Banking? Investing? Doing research? Getting reviews? However, I'd much rather spend 30 seconds doing my banking online than to waste an hour to stand in front of someone while they access the same information.

And instead of walking to 5 casas trying to find the girl I want, paying the 3 k viewing fee at each and wasting an hour, I'd rather spend 5 minutes to make a choice from over 600 women, all without putting on my pants.

Bait and switch isn't really an issue on Facebook. Most of us would notice if the girl who showed up wasn't the same as the one who has 300 pics posted.

And here's the clincher. When you figure a round trip taxi ride, spending an hour or more trying to find the right girl, it's cheaper in time and money to have the Facebook girl meet you at a bar. You have a beer and decide whether to take her, or give her taxi money and exercise a different option.

It gets better. There are times when I'm out and I see a girl from Facebook. Happened last year at Patrick's. Now I know that the entire group she's with are probably working girls.

And it gets even better. If I want to go down the rabbit hole, I can dig up the third cousin of some working girl, who just celebrated her 18th birthday 3 weeks ago and she has no gringo friends.

This is getting redundant. Before meeting a girl, I know if she has kids, if she has a dog, what she likes to drink, what drugs she does, what music she likes and so much more. And if she has kids, I already know if her stomach is wrecked.

Guess what? More of that better shit. This last trip my flight to Bogota passed Medellin at the perfect time. It was after sunset so the city was all lit up, but there was still lots of color in the sky. Snapped the picture and stuck it on Facebook. By the next morning, 22 girls had hit me up on Messenger, wanting to know me. Where else can you get that much attention for 5 seconds of effort?

Why stop there? I haven't bothered trying to add Facebook girls in almost 2 years. Instead they add me, sometimes 40-50 a week. Then I decide which ones I'm interested in. Because my list has grown so large, I get requests from other cities and other countries. Had one last year from Costa Rica. She sent a bunch of photos and videos and told me to let her know if I visit CR.

One last benefit. I don't have to waste any time just to find out the girl won't come down to my price. It takes 10 seconds to settle that.

[Knowledge]

Bottom feeders! I resemble that remark. LOL!

Yes good advice, El Centro is only for bottom feeders!

This Friday I have a friend arriving, he was in Medellin about four years ago before the invasion of the Venezuelans, and is street rat with longer whiskers then me.

I tried to explain to him how much things have changed at "ground zero" with the herds of girls during prime time between 4-6 PM, and I told him as weird as this may sound, but it's kinda like in front of the parking lot to the Nana Plaza Hotel.

He got all giddy when I told him this.

[Evx69]

For those that have been to both Cartagena and Medellin: are there vendors and locals following you around in Medellin, just like they do in Cartagena? Had a guy try to put his arms around me and hug me; I did a quick 360 spin and then walked away.

[Just Incognito]

Look who showed up in Cuba. Again in my suggested friends field and again for a about 10 seconds I admit I was having sugar plum fantasies dancing in my head until I realized she was a clone! (P. S. For lurkers and people who read things for their face value. These profiles are examples of someone stealing someone else's likeness and then trying to hustle you).

Cuban clone.

https://www.facebook.com/roxana.valdes.5055

Colombian clone.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030230804142

Original DNA donor.

https://www.instagram.com/laurysdyvv/?hl=en

"The model and influencer Laura Rodrguez, mostly known as "Laurys Dyva" or "Miss Pynandi", has been criticized for a long time because she would have bought followers on Instagram and that through that she reached 3,500,000 followers".

That is too funny!

[JjBee62]

I guess it comes down to what you value more: time vs money.

I don't have the luxury to stay in Colombia for a month+ long trip like you and surfer (more like 5-7 days). So I value my time over money, and would rather stick with the parque Lleras area as there's a higher concentration of 8+ vs el centro. If I was staying there for several weeks at a time, I would definitely have a different strategy to stretch the dollar.

When I'm in Colombia, neither time nor money is high on my list of priorities. Top of the list are the experiences. Next up are the memories. I go to Colombia to get away from my 70 hour work weeks. If I'm fretting over time it defeats the purpose.

Personally, I don't pull girls from the street, El Centro or Parque Lleras, although I've used the casas and strip clubs. However, I try to spend time in both places, for the ambiance.

All I was saying is that there are surprising gems to be found in the most unlikely places. But like most gems, you need to dig for them.

[Nounce]

I am pretty sure its because I am picky but Cartagena was looking like a burst and Colombia was looking like one of those one of a life time trip.

Thank you for a realistic report. I read it with pain but a great read, LOL. It almost seems like you were in a desert.

The pink powder is tusi.

[BlackThought]

Time is money? Really? Doesn't it take time to make money also or do you like suggesting as long as you aren't in a mongering city.

It falls out of the sky like manna from the heavens.

"I don't get overcharged" time is money jajajajajaaaa.

Like its ever an either or proposition, how about not getting overcharged and returning home having more money in ones possession.

Then you can spend less time working to replace it, and spend more time making and saving more for future putas (as opposed to replacing what was lost being overcharged).

Sounds like your mentality is lose lose vs win win.

Someone with a lot of time on his hands, but no money would clearly miss the point I was making. Not surprised.