Medellin Reports

[Osteoknot]

I said I wasn't going to write any more about it but for some reason the meat of the post in the middle didn't show up in the other post so here it is, more detail and some of the nuts and bolts of what actually went on. Sorry about the repetition in the post if I try to fix it it fucks up the whole post up I can't do any better:

They found my Tussy and threw it on the middle of my bed.

They took my phone and kept looking at pictures I had in there and saying that a bunch of the girls were underage but none of them were.

I was in my underwear and I was able to sweep my pants over the Tussy when getting dressed and grab it with my hand at the same time and put it in the pocket all in one motion without them noticing and they just assumed one of the other cops took it as they were pilfering some of my stuff anyway. * I then went straight to the bathroom and flushed it.

One by one the cops all left the room until it was just one guy and me and when the Moment of Truth came for me to leave he asked me did I want to get out of it?

We spent about another half hour trying to work out the details with him calling a supervisor to get the okay for the deal. * he wanted to take my debit card and have me give him my password but I wouldn't do it, but he wouldn't let me leave on my own even though he had my passport and my phone.

He asked me how much would I pay and I said three million but he told me that wasn't enough. Then I started to sense that I had a little negotiating power because he seems a little bit nervous about getting caught.

I told him the maximum amount I could get out of an ATM was 2 million pesos at one time, even though I had gotten as much as four million in two withdrawals at the same time from Davienda, which is where we were going.

The plan he came up with was that I was going to go to the ATM, he would follow me, after my withdrawal he would walk up to me like we were friends in the street walk to a corner Park and then I was going to hand them over the money which is exactly what we did. When I handed over the money he returned my phone and passport to me.

Now here's where it started to get surreal. He started telling me that he liked me and that he wanted to be my friend. He said that I needed to pay more money the next day but that I only had to pay "from my heart" as a gift.

There's a lot more that went into it but I will cut to the quick and say the next morning I met him, he took me for a drive in his car and I gave him 1 million more.

He then proceeded to show me a bunch of photos of his family including his wife, mother, children and parents, I kid you not. * Then he took two selfies of he and I and asked me for my WhatsApp number which I gave him. * *We have been in touch briefly every day even though I'm back in the United States. He calls me his friend and tells me I now have police protection. * he told me if I ever get in trouble in the future I am to call him.

I also have been back in touch with the girl who says she was not part of it but they let her go the same night. * She says because when they looked her up in the computer it did show she was in fact 19.

Now here's where it started to get surreal. He started telling me that he liked me and that he wanted to be my friend. He said that I needed to pay more money the next day but that I only had to pay "from my heart" as a gift.

There's a lot more that went into it but I will cut to the quick and say the next morning I met him, he took me for a drive in his car and I gave him 1 million more.

He then proceeded to show me a bunch of photos of his family including his wife, mother, children and parents, I kid you not. Then he took two selfies of he and I and asked me for my WhatsApp number which I gave him. We have been in touch briefly every day even though I'm back in the United States. He calls me his friend and tells me I now have police protection. * he told me if I ever get in trouble in the future I am to call him.

I also have been back in touch with the girl who says she was not part of it but they let her go the same night. She says because when they looked her up in the computer it did show she was in fact 19.

Two days after the incident I was outside and I heard someone whistling me down and it was the investigator and he came over and started making small* talk with me like he was a good friend. * Then he proceeded to describe seeing me the day before and in detail the girl I was with as we were walking to dinner. * That gave me an uneasy feeling to say the least.

Thinking back I think the guy really does Jen really want to keep me as a contact in case he can get more money from me and believe it or not he likes having a gringo as a friend. I don't think he's planning on extorting me ever again but if I ever need him officially for help of course is going to cost me. And I do not mind that arrangement one bit.

And if this helps anyone else connected dots better than me he's not from Eddie and he's based in Bogota and he says he's part of a child pornography task force.

And I would like to thank Villainy for the moral support he gave me through a very difficult time.

And yes I probably would have beat the whole thing in court but that would have meant staying in Medellin for months past my Visa expiration, getting a lawyer, pay living expenses and the Policia knew this and that I was going to take the path of least resistance, pay my "fine" lick my wounds and move on.

And this last part will sound insane because I'm giving advice about this but it's something I've said before in the past. If you ever stuck in a legal situation in another country it doesn't matter where and you have the opportunity to get out short and quick always take that opportunity, do not ever prolong it, don't try to stand up for what is right it's misguided, you always end up paying more in the end.

Fortunately for me the money was trivial and believe it or not I think I've gained a valuable contact that may be worth it, although the way I got there could have been a little smoother, jajaja. Ostee Out and never give up, you have to Keep On Keepin On.

[IamLookin]

I have to disagree on your point here. There are lots of guys that have hundreds of girls on their Facebook friends list. Sort of like collecting Pokémon . Cards. Got to catch them all!

When I clicked on your girl's facebook I see she is friends with a few hardcore monger members in the same group. I am sure they would not add a dude and in the facebook pics she looks nothing at all like a dude.

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[BlackThought]

I am a guy and I have a kid. I have several gay friends that have kids. I also have pictures with my nephews and other people's kids that are not my kids. I have a picture with my daughter and grandkids on facebook and chicks think it is my wife and kids. Having pictures with a kid says nothing except there is a picture with a kid.

A guy recently posted pics of a girl in Medellin that he has been involved with for like 3 years. On the facebook it shows the girl with a kid. To everybody's eyes except his, this girl is obviously a guy.

When I clicked on your girl's facebook I see she is friends with a few hardcore monger members in the same group. I am sure they would not add a dude and in the facebook pics she looks nothing at all like a dude.

The real question is: was it beyond / impossible pussy or real pussy.

https://youtu.be/tZJBM0pNjCs

[Osteoknot]

For those of you who follow me and pay attention this was the exact same girl I warned about at the horse statue in a prior post. Trust me, that irony is not lost on me. And she is also the same chica who I had my Spanish teacher confirm that she had an authentic cedula that showed her to be 19 years old. I took her to my hotel room on Avenue 70 after we had a few sessions in Love Motels in El Centro.

A police sting team came by and substituted the ID she left behind the hotel desk with a fake one that showed her to be under age and then came into my room with her, crying, both ID's, guns drawn, 4 guys.

They spent about a half an hour putting the fear of God in my heart about how much trouble I was in how I would need a lawyer how I would be leaving the hotel in handcuffs, etc. Etc. They let the girl go early in the ordeal or she left with a cop I don't remember. Their main focus seem to be that I was with the girl in my room and they kept referring to the photos in my telephone as infantile porn.

I also have been back in touch with the girl who says she was not part of it but they let her go the same night. She says because when they looked her up in the computer and it did show she was in fact 19, which of course makes no sense with the rest of the story.

I went to El Centro the next day and in fact every day until the time I left and she was there working as per usual. I did not talk to her.

As recently as yesterday I asked the investigator if I could see her again if that would cause trouble and this was his exact response, "Si no hice nada con usted, con ella tampoco puedo hacer nada."

There is a lot more to it but I'm not going to write any more about it because people are going to think what they want to think my only motivation was in warning you guys so be careful out there I don't need to subject myself to the be that goes on here when I'm just trying to help out and I'm not going to apologize for being the best writer on ISG, jajaja. Ostee Out. In the interest of length I'm going to stop now. *I may write more about it, maybe maybe not. I'm not going to respond to any specific other posts about this, what you see is what you get and people can believe what they want to believe.

The whole sordid Affair was not fun to go through at the time but believe it or not at. I'm starting to feel like there's going to be some good that comes out of it. One thing my guy keeps stressing that I don't have any worries when it comes to police matters in the future, so as Bill Murray would say in Caddyshack, at least I got that going for me.

[Mr Enternational]

When I first saw her in person I thought she was a trannie based on her voice. But her FB photos show her having a kid,

I am a guy and I have a kid. I have several gay friends that have kids. I also have pictures with my nephews and other people's kids that are not my kids. I have a picture with my daughter and grandkids on facebook and chicks think it is my wife and kids. Having pictures with a kid says nothing except there is a picture with a kid.

A guy recently posted pics of a girl in Medellin that he has been involved with for like 3 years. On the facebook it shows the girl with a kid. To everybody's eyes except his, this girl is obviously a guy.

When I clicked on your girl's facebook I see she is friends with a few hardcore monger members in the same group. I am sure they would not add a dude and in the facebook pics she looks nothing at all like a dude.

[JjBee62]

If a woman says she was raped then all the other women believe her just because they are women too. Now here we have a guy saying he was set-up by a girl who brought police and we are supposed to believe him because we are guys also. Nope.

There are a couple of important points in this paragraph.

First, the bias isn't gender limited. If a woman doesn't like the woman who says she was raped, she's unlikely to believe her. Or if a woman likes the accused rapist she's likely to believe him. The same holds true for men hearing the story. Their personal feelings about those involved are a bigger factor than gender alignment.

The second important point is where you mention belief. Belief gets in the way of the facts. Rather than believing one version or the other, there's some useful things to be learned from the experience, however it happened.

1. In the picture of the girl, she looks too young to me. In either version of the events, that's the critical detail. If she looks too young, the potential for problems increases. Without some dependable other method to verify age, my opinion is that it's better to walk away.

2. It's a good idea to minimize your liability. If you do drugs keep the minimum necessary on hand. Getting caught with a few grams is much easier to talk your way out of than getting caught with a large quantity. This also applies to money. Your money is safer in the bank until you need it. If the police get involved and expect a contribution to uninvolve themselves, the amount is going to depend on how much you have on hand.

3. Keep a low profile. The longer you plan to stay, the more important this becomes. If you fly in for the weekend, you can be a rockstar in Parque Lleras. If you're staying for a month, pretty soon someone will put a target on you if you're making it rain every night.

4. Don't fall in love. 99.99% of the chicas who fall in love with a gringo, are in love with the lifestyle and the money. If you want to fall in love with a girl in a third world country, then put all your money in a trust that only allows you a lower middle class income in that country. Live on a budget, live at the level of the people around you. When your disposable income is 80 k per day or less, all the girls who love you are suddenly going to find someone else to love.

I have been with 5 girls in that group 2-3 times each in the last 3+ months. They are the best group of girls out there. Pretty close group. Never had a problem. So I told one of the girls that I heard a rumor (no website mentioned) that her friend set up a foreigner using the police. Her reactions was she had no idea what I was referring to and asked me which one of her friends.

Later that day her friend appears and I inform her of the same thing. Using a translator she said something to the effect that you were renting an apartment (AirBnB) and that she is 19 but looks young so the owners of the apartment called the police..

I've heard of the underage scam, but I'm uncertain if it was in Medellin. It certainly is a possibility, which is why it's better to walk away than take a chance on any who look too young.

Just a word in Osteo's defense. It's easy to jump to conclusions if you get caught in a bad situation. You make a few assumptions and try to make sense of things and that solidifies into your version of the story.

[Villainy]

If a woman says she was raped then all the other women believe her just because they are women too. Now here we have a guy saying he was set-up by a girl who brought police and we are supposed to believe him because we are guys also. Nope.

I have been with 5 girls in that group 2-3 times each in the last 3+ months. They are the best group of girls out there. Pretty close group. Never had a problem. So I told one of the girls that I heard a rumor (no website mentioned) that her friend set up a foreigner using the police. Her reactions was she had no idea what I was referring to and asked me which one of her friends.

Later that day her friend appears and I inform her of the same thing. Using a translator she said something to the effect that you were renting an apartment (AirBnB) and that she is 19 but looks young so the owners of the apartment called the police..

One time I read on here that we guys should always stick together. The quote was something like "Bros before Hos". I thought that was a manifestly stupid approach and I still do.

But my friend, you choose to believe a streetwalker instead of a member of this board who has nothing to lose be reporting his incident. In fact, it was a great gesture on his part because he admits it makes him look a little foolish.

Well let me weigh in. I've met Ostee. One afternoon he told me he was going to El Centro and I went with him. We did a circuit around the church and we saw the two girls standing next to a Botero statue beckoning us to come over. The cuter little one definitely did not look 18. We both talked to her for a minute but there wasn't any way we were going with her. She claimed to have a cedula. Whatever, we walked away. Later the next day Ostee told me he had been with a different Vene and they went to see this girl and the Vene told Ostee that her ID was 100% legit. Ostee later reported he took her to a room and they had a great romp.

So, one evening Ostee messages me that he needs to talk to someone. He was white as a sheet and very agitated when he came to my room. He told me the story of what happened. It was shocking. My best take was that this little girl was either a girlfriend of the lead cop or a relative or connected somehow. Otherwise how would the cops know where he was staying?

The girl's story you heard was clearly wrong. He was staying in a very high-end hotel not an Air BnB. I know this because I was staying in the same hotel. The reception didn't call the cops that isn't remotely possible. The reception at the hotel takes the girl's cedula and enters it into their system for verification. They check the picture against the girl. If they had doubts they simply wouldn't let her in. It's happened before. Not to me. But to other visitors I've talked to. So, while you may find the story implausible I know his story is truthful and your report of the girl's statements is riddled with errors and lies. Oh there was some truth to what she said. I understand she was 19 with a child. She also had a fake cedula (meaning it was real and legit, it just wasn't hers).

By the way. I wouldn't take that girl outside of El Centro if I were you, I'm sure that is how the extorting cops knew where to find him. Second, I'm not sure I would disbelieve a board member (who goes out of his way to post stories and pictures which benefits everyone) based on the word of a streetwalker.

[Beobeo]

If a woman says she was raped then all the other women believe her just because they are women too. Now here we have a guy saying he was set-up by a girl who brought police and we are supposed to believe him because we are guys also. Nope.

I have been with 5 girls in that group 2-3 times each in the last 3+ months. They are the best group of girls out there. Pretty close group. Never had a problem. So I told one of the girls that I heard a rumor (no website mentioned) that her friend set up a foreigner using the police. Her reactions was she had no idea what I was referring to and asked me which one of her friends.

Later that day her friend appears and I inform her of the same thing. Using a translator she said something to the effect that you were renting an apartment (AirBnB) and that she is 19 but looks young so the owners of the apartment called the police.

Based on your bravado writing style and they way you are dragging this out like a soap opera I find her simple version more believable than the long soap opera I am sure you are going to tell. Hard for her to expect a successful underage scam when she is 19 with a child. Plus, you are so good to the girls and such a lady's man that no girl would ever do this to you. Right? In addition, I can not remember ever reading about anyone else ever having the underage scam done to them on this site.

Strange how you tell people to avoid her but your pictures are nearly useless.

Why did I post? I think both sides should be heard.

I was confused at Osteo's story about this. I think your version seem more plausible.

[Beobeo]

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100055355575758 - Maria Juanita Ramirez. Looks much worse than photos.

Thanks for the head up, she does look good in the FB photos.

[Tasss]

Thank you for sharing valuable info. I wish more posts were like yours. Informative.

Ty and yours too.

Haha I can kinda see why you thought she could've been a tranny LOL. I hate the ones that rushes, that's the downside of using FB, if you met her in parque Lleras, you can kinda feel out vibes.

She was very friendly on Messenger, but things can change in the bedroom. You can never really tell. I've also had the opposite happen where the girl is hesitant or pretty quiet on the street or on Messenger and turns out to be a nympho in bed:

[Surfer500]

Top 5% horrible girl I ever had.

I rolled the dice and knew I had a 70-80% chance of a dud but wanted a new girl and it was getting late after a rainy day.

Behind the church on the corner is the yellow restaurant and across the street from that on the corner is the short time hotel with the prison bars. There is a light brown blondish haired girl at the bottom of the stairs. Pretty face and smile, fake boobs, age around 25, usually on her phone. She wears a fish net tube top so you can see her tits and always wears pants (because she has to). She wanted 50,000 and I walked away. After a week I tried again and she went for 40,000. We went the hotel next door. I refuse to use the prison bar hotel.

She did not smile the whole time. Wanted money up front which I knew. She demanded that she be the one to put the condom on which she did not roll on but stuck both her index and middle fingers into a square with her nails (idiot)..

I've had a few instances where I've unwrapped the package and cringed. And in those rare occasions I immediately terminate the session and pay what I agreed to and nothing less and just say I'm not feeling well and thank you very much. And sounds like when other guys have witnessed what you described they don't want to pay up, hence she demands the money upfront.

I know you have experience in Centro, but I always tell the new ones, that I pay afterwards before going upstairs with them. This is probably the biggest sign of a bad session in the works when you take a new Chica upstairs who demands to be paid upfront.

And your not alone in this, many years ago when in the Santa Fe area of Bogota I went with a Chica who demanded the money upfront. And I paid, and everything was cool until I changed positions and my condom was covered with blood. And I asked what's up with this, and she said oh it's normal to work when she's menstruating. Not much I could do, so I terminated the session and walked out, as I wasn't going to try to nut in a red tide although I was covered up.

Moral of the story, never ever pay upfront.

[JjBee62]

What is the location of this grille nueva awesome place? I can't find it on google maps.

It's just a few doors east of Conejitas.

[JjBee62]

Thanks your for replies folks! I have a better understanding of things now.

Since it's Medellin, most of the flavor in town is paisas or a few vennies. Out of curiosity, are Asian chicas or white / eastern European / Russian chicas available anywhere in Medellin?

If they are I've never heard of them or seen any sign of them. Not sure there's much of a profit incentive to take a 24 hour flight in order to sell your pussy in one of the lowest priced markets.

[IamLookin]

Thank you for sharing valuable info. I wish more posts were like yours. Informative.

I also went to Los Molinos. It might be a new policy or a bug in their system. A lot of Colombian online systems are pretty shitty, so that might be a possibility.

I also thought I'd share a negative FB experience from several days ago, but you all decide what you want to do.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100055355575758 - Maria Juanita Ramirez. Looks much worse than photos. When I first saw her in person I thought she was a trannie based on her voice. But her FB photos show her having a kid, and she had baby damage so I guess not. She's maybe close to 40. If she's younger she didn't age well at all, either due to drugs or some other reason. 2 minutes in and she's like are you done? That was my signal to end it there. Made an excuse to stop and paid her to basically leave. Her attitude makes me think she'll cause problems if she was paid less than the full amount we agreed to. She was also messy, left my apartment with a big glob of shampoo on the shower floor and pee unflushed. Sample FB profile pics attached in case she gets a new profile.

[Surfer500]

You don't have to go to a store at all. You can register on the Claro website or on the phone itself via the miclaro web site. Any nine digit passport number will work.

Interesting as the original poster tried this but was not successful doing it. This is good information.