Medellin Reports

[Ricker]

Went to San Diego 1 time in 2006 never to return, it wasn't what Colombia should be about in my opinion, just like mangos and Fase 2 LOL. 10k cover, girls walking around after every dance hounding for tips (and you better give it to them) or you will get stared down and gossiped about the whole night. I think it was 150-180k and hour. 10k beers and then ONLY Heineken or Corona Fuck that! I hate places like this I want a PILSEN for 3mil. I didn't come all the way to Colombia to have any kind of dejavu remnants of the USA LOL.

There are much better places to go and spend your money where you can still get a big "thank you" for your 100k TLN. Those spots for me have ALSO been "vaulted" LOL.

As for Ricker? Never give up the fight, MOUTHS SHUT and keep doing your thing master player! .

Heya Heat. I know what ya mean about San Diego.

And though I do share info, I have learned to keep some things quiet.

OK Mr GoGo. I won't pick on your favorite place SD haha, got to tell ya though, if you like it now, you would've loved it back in the day before the gringo invasion and it's reneovation.

It was a simpler dance (strip) club with much cheaper prices for booze and chicas both, was much less "americanized" back then.

I first met Aussie Greg there and he bought me a chica, and I once was with a chica there on an IOU to both her and also the club for the room.

To me it was much more relaxed and carefree than now.

I'm glad you enjoy it there, definitely still beats P-Prison. .

[Dad Fun 555]

walking around after every dance hounding for tips (and you better give it to them) or you will get stared down and gossiped about the whole night.

I had totally forgotten about this, and it gave me a chuckle. But this is true of every SC in Medellin, no? I don't think I've seen this anywhere else on the planet, but is standard procedure in Medellin. Is this still the cases? (I haven't been since 2006 also). It always annoyed me to need to have a stack of small bills and constantly pay this "tax" every few minutes.

And the bars which only have imported beer. And many, no beer at all (only liquor). Always make things a little more difficult. There are many clubs in Colombia which won't serve you unless you buy a bottle of liquor which makes things a lot harder if you're flying solo!

[Mr Gogo]

Went to San Diego 1 time in 2006 never to return, it wasn't what Colombia should be about in my opinion, just like mangos and Fase 2 LOL. 10k cover, girls walking around after every dance hounding for tips (and you better give it to them) or you will get stared down and gossiped about the whole night. I think it was 150-180k and hour. 10k beers and then ONLY Heineken or Corona Fuck that! I hate places like this I want a PILSEN for 3mil. I didn't come all the way to Colombia to have any kind of dejavu remnants of the USA LOL.

There are much better places to go and spend your money where you can still get a big "thank you" for your 100k TLN. Those spots for me have ALSO been "vaulted" LOL.

As for Ricker? Never give up the fight, MOUTHS SHUT and keep doing your thing master player! .

The girls still walk around asking for tips and do have an attitude, but I love a strip show so a dollar propina is no problem for me. I get a 25usd bottle of rum and the waiter keeps me fresh with ice and cola. I think the price is 50usd for 30minutes (for sex) but I don't remember. Beers are 6 to 8 USD and up. I just like they fact that I can preview the goods beforehand. Another problem is that the girls will come around and ask for a drink and drink it straight out the cola bottle. They also have a tendency to act like the shot glass is their personal cup. I've learned that if I chew some gum then put the gum in the shot glass, they just turn their noses up and walk away.

Also I don't need to get a GPS hooked up to Ricker, I can just follow you to the secret spots yall share. LOL.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

So Ricker until you show me some of those secret spots I know you have, leave my Sandiego alone LOL.

Went to San Diego 1 time in 2006 never to return, it wasn't what Colombia should be about in my opinion, just like mangos and Fase 2 LOL. 10k cover, girls walking around after every dance hounding for tips (and you better give it to them) or you will get stared down and gossiped about the whole night. I think it was 150-180k and hour. 10k beers and then ONLY Heineken or Corona Fuck that! I hate places like this I want a PILSEN for 3mil. I didn't come all the way to Colombia to have any kind of dejavu remnants of the USA LOL.

There are much better places to go and spend your money where you can still get a big "thank you" for your 100k TLN. Those spots for me have ALSO been "vaulted" LOL.

As for Ricker? Never give up the fight, MOUTHS SHUT and keep doing your thing master player! .

[SlamCity7777]

First of all the 40-50K pesos was just a thought, it could be that or maybe lower, he'll (Medellin Bob) will figure out what the market calls for.

Every time I've stayed at the CB1 or 2, over the years, there have ALWAYS been guys showing up and wanting to hang out and meet the chicas, usually being turned away due to not being a guest.

Also, there are almost always chicas that are not selected by guests and would love to meet other guys.

"Mansion girls" as they're often called or freelancers that are allowed to enter the bar, offer a different type service than just the casa girls down in el Central, more of a GFE type service.

Mansion girls have already proven that guys will pay a premium for them over girls in the el Central casas.

If a chica gives bad service, naturally followed by a bad rep for them, means no repeat business, no new customers and most likely being banned.

Mansion girls are getting from 100-150K pesos, usually for a couple or few hours, sometimes all day / night, depending on chemestry, etc.

You're not getting that at Face Dos, the 40 minute San Diego rip off, etc.

Plus, from what he (Bob) tells me, the place will be open during the day too, already creating a market different than these night time clubs,

Sounds like a great concept to me.

There will always be nay-sayers, just like when the Mansion first opened. I for one hope the authorities let it fly, so we can see the end results.

Though I dig hangin' out at the Mayo, waiting for the gem to appear too, it just ain't for everyone, and it's definitely not going to happen till the late night hours.

Just saying.

Ricker. We scuffle once again! Hahhah. You make some very good points (as always) about guys wanting to party at CB1 or 2 and about SD and FDos being rip offs and finding the Wild Rose in the jungle of thrones that is Mayo.

I would like to point out that I did wish Medellin Bob well on the project and that I do think it is an interesting concept. I was not trying to be a "nay-sayer" rather putting out on the table a different and unbiased points of view. It's like when you and your buddy were teenagers (might be too long ago for some of ya'll to remember! LOL) and you're are all fired up to sell Tshirts and your mom and dad rain on your parade by talking logic and real numbers. They're not trying to kill your enthusiasm but real thought has to be put in and not a just a "Great Idea" and let's hope it works; Hope is not a business plan. I'm not a wet blanket kind of guy but you have to consider the competition and who is going to be your core market.

In any and all business ventures / life adventures you have to see all the alternatives, angles, and possibilities. Could this be a great opportunity? Hell yes! Could it be a flop as well? Hell yes!

At the proposed pick up joint or the CB1/2 Annex you have to ask: Do you have enough of a core market to make the project a success?

Let me say that I know what I'm talking about here as I have over 15 years experience in Hospitality-Service Industry and have had the pleasure of working with more than one guest judge from "Top Chef". From a Bar / Restaurant perspective I'm on point. I'm now in Sales and Marketing so I know a little something about that too. I'm not some "on-line hard-dick" who's talking out his ass; I can back up my thought and words with facts and logically thought out ideas. A radical concept on this board I know.

"Gringos" (I'm using gringo as a pronoun and not as a pejorative so let's not fire up that old tired argument please) who live here now are NOT going to pay a cover / door fee. They have their "novias" and more importantly they know where to go for "Pussy Economica" so why go to CB1n2 Annex and pay for something they already have in their back pocket or cell phone? You can't even get these these cheap gringos to pony up for a decent tip when you split a check with them or they ask for separate checks (which is lame in the states and super-lame in a foreign country) so how are you going to get them to pay just to walk in the door? The word I've learned in Colombia is "chichipata" I believe. I think I spelled that wrong. This demographic is mostly out of your core.

"Colombianos" who monger also know where to roll for some side pussy from their wife and novias and you will NOT get any sort of $10-$50K cover from 80% (if not more) of the Colombians, they simply can't afford the extra tax let alone take the girl back to their parents house for a date. You going to let them rent a mattress behind CB2 or have extra large bathroom stalls?

"Non Mongering Colombianos" or normal people if you will, are not going to hang out at a place with a gang of out-of-shape-silver fish gringos chatting up prepagos. Lunch crowd or business lunch people? Nope. Family out to diner for Abuela's Cumple? Nope. Carolina and her girlfriends pre-gaming before the club? Nope. Carolin's Mom and her girlfriends splitting some apps and wine talking about their nietos? Nope. Juan and Carlos just got paid are thy going to pay the door charge and split a bottle of aguardente? Nope. Hector and Anna-Maria on a date looking for a nice place to eat? Nope. Not with this business model, well that's how it sounds to me. None of these people will go in all likelihood. Even if there is no cover Hector and Juancito are not going to bring their amigas to split a few bottles of aguadente on a Thursday- Saturday due to the nature of the business.

Right their is you lose the majority of your "Regulars" and if you've ever owned a sub shop, won ton joint, any business for that matter knows your regulars pay the rent, lights, ect.

Which Brings me too.

"Vacation Monger" = Bread and Butter. Are there enough VM's to sustain a business let alone make it successful? This isn't the DR, Panama or CR for the time being so it's not like they have bus loads of gringos all over the place. (Thank God)

From what I understand CB makes loot from it's hotel business and other services and not the Girls. How are you going to make MONEY? Door Charge, $$ for a Chica Drink, tax the girls, tax the monger when he leaves?

Ricker said that a Mansion Girls appeal is the GFE. 100-150K for a few hours. What happens when 10 guys take out 10 girls and your left with 15 guys sitting at the bar and only 5 girls are available? Those girls that were taken out aren't coming back for a few hours or if at all. Those 10 guys that are with out a girl are going to leave and then how are you going to make money? An empty chair drinks no beer, eats no food.

Are you going to bleed the CB1-2 talent pool dry by offering these girls to any VM with the $20K to get in? Does this not compromise the "exclusivity" and benefit of staying at either CB? You just going to let any prepago come in off the street to set up shop?

This is not a personal attack, I'm sure you can see this by reading the post and not skimming. This is a forum for discussion and I am just presenting an alternative point of view. I feel that all the questions I have brought up and summations are fair to ask and to consider.

I look forward to any and all replys.

Just Saying

[Frank Casio]

well hell's bell mr. gogo, nice report, sounds like me a couple years ago. even i didn't know there was so mauch hanky panky and free lansing going on in san diego grill. but then i don't hang out there a lot, although i have been there many times during the years. for all you guys who went "bananas" over the big busted cutie pics. that i posted from some of my place archives, well, that's where she works. she used to work in "conejitas" in el centro when i met her 3 years ago, so i don't really know if she goes back and forth. thanks again mr. gogo, maybe i'll run into you at san diego grill one of these days.

frank casio!

ricker you're my boy but i got to defend my beloved "san diego". actually the quickie in sd is not a rip off, its an introduction. most chics there can be had for a tln. i personally like them to come play for an afternoon delight before work. i usually give them 70usd for 2pm till 8pm and think i'm overpaying, but fuck it.

also whats this i'm hearing about there being a cover for sd, i have never paid a cover there?

sd is my favorite place in the world now that sosua has been demongerized (is that a word i don't know)? my grandad owned a strip club on eastern avenue in washington d. c. as i was growing up. i actually lost my virginity to one of his girls at a young age. i would be the only ****d teenager in the club, playing with my dick in my pants as i watched the girls dance. over time i developed an appreciation for the girls and their showmanship. sd has an elevated stage (luna luneras doesn't) and the girls are put on a showcase. there is a blonde at sd that takes pride in her act. as i'm sitting there watching she cleans the pole and usually has on some kind of theme outfit. this is her 15 minutes and its all about her, i forgot her name. my favorita darly never danced. she would be helping me sip my rum as she played with my hard dick, thru my pants as i watched the show. well one day darly decided to hit the stage for her first dance. earlier i had met her at the pablado metro station and we had pizza and sex. i gave her a shortset that i brought at mia airport that said" miami". if anyone has ever banged her and seen that outfit you welcome. that was the outfit she had on as she danced. she was nervous but i stared at her in amazement. she never looked at me as she was dancing knowing i was locked on her. when she finished i greated her at the bottom of the stairs by the sofa. damn i wanted to take her away but i didn't want to pay the exit fee. so she helped me finish my rum and i left at 3am not wanting to see who she was going to fuck in the back rooms (plus i was buzzed) , and made arrangements for another afternoon delight.

so ricker until you show me some of those secret spots i know you have, leave my sandiego alone lol.

[RioGuest]

I like Club Med also, but picture this with a red and white cross before and after it. + Club Med +.

[Mr Gogo]

first of all the 40-50k pesos was just a thought, it could be that or maybe lower, he'll (medellin bob) will figure out what the market calls for.

every time i've stayed at the cb1 or 2, over the years, there have always been guys showing up and wanting to hang out and meet the chicas, usually being turned away due to not being a guest.

also, there are almost always chicas that are not selected by guests and would love to meet other guys.

"mansion girls" as they're often called or freelancers that are allowed to enter the bar, offer a different type service than just the casa girls down in el central, more of a gfe type service.

mansion girls have already proven that guys will pay a premium for them over girls in the el central casas.

if a chica gives bad service, naturally followed by a bad rep for them, means no repeat business, no new customers and most likely being banned.

mansion girls are getting from 100-150k pesos, usually for a couple or few hours, sometimes all day / night, depending on chemestry, etc.

you're not getting that at face dos, the 40 minute san diego rip off, etc.

plus, from what he (bob) tells me, the place will be open during the day too, already creating a market different than these night time clubs,

sounds like a great concept to me.

there will always be nay-sayers, just like when the mansion first opened. i for one hope the authorities let it fly, so we can see the end results.

though i dig hangin' out at the mayo, waiting for the gem to appear too, it just ain't for everyone, and it's definitely not going to happen till the late night hours.

just saying.

ricker you're my boy but i got to defend my beloved "san diego". actually the quickie in sd is not a rip off, its an introduction. most chics there can be had for a tln. i personally like them to come play for an afternoon delight before work. i usually give them 70usd for 2pm till 8pm and think i'm overpaying, but fuck it.

also whats this i'm hearing about there being a cover for sd, i have never paid a cover there?

sd is my favorite place in the world now that sosua has been demongerized (is that a word i don't know)? my grandad owned a strip club on eastern avenue in washington d. c. as i was growing up. i actually lost my virginity to one of his girls at a young age. i would be the only ****d teenager in the club, playing with my dick in my pants as i watched the girls dance. over time i developed an appreciation for the girls and their showmanship. sd has an elevated stage (luna luneras doesn't) and the girls are put on a showcase. there is a blonde at sd that takes pride in her act. as i'm sitting there watching she cleans the pole and usually has on some kind of theme outfit. this is her 15 minutes and its all about her, i forgot her name. my favorita darly never danced. she would be helping me sip my rum as she played with my hard dick, thru my pants as i watched the show. well one day darly decided to hit the stage for her first dance. earlier i had met her at the pablado metro station and we had pizza and sex. i gave her a shortset that i brought at mia airport that said" miami". if anyone has ever banged her and seen that outfit you welcome. that was the outfit she had on as she danced. she was nervous but i stared at her in amazement. she never looked at me as she was dancing knowing i was locked on her. when she finished i greated her at the bottom of the stairs by the sofa. damn i wanted to take her away but i didn't want to pay the exit fee. so she helped me finish my rum and i left at 3am not wanting to see who she was going to fuck in the back rooms (plus i was buzzed) , and made arrangements for another afternoon delight.

so ricker until you show me some of those secret spots i know you have, leave my sandiego alone lol.

[Frank Casio]

Hi Ricker,

I totally like the idea and everyting you said. The onlly hold back would be the 40-50k pesos cover charge. A 10-20k pesos cover is reasonable. That's what all the clubs, including Aqua in La Estrada to Mangos and Fase ll charge to keep the trash out. I like the idea and I'm sure Bob will be smart about the cover charge. I would go myself at the above suggested cover charge and would reccommend it to my guests. Everything you said sounds good and I "know" the girls can be flexible according to chemistry.

I think it's a great idea. I have my My Place, but I have always talked highly about The Mansion, if you have the money. I'm not to kin on some of Aussie's comments on this board, but we all know that his just a big brute from down yonder that sometimes forgets his manners when he speaks. But other than that he's ok and runs a good business on the high end. So all in all, if you get the cover charge straight and are reasonable with the beer and liquor prices I think it would be a great idea. Good luck!

Frank Casio!

First of all the 40-50K pesos was just a thought, it could be that or maybe lower, he'll (Medellin Bob) will figure out what the market calls for.

Every time I've stayed at the CB1 or 2, over the years, there have ALWAYS been guys showing up and wanting to hang out and meet the chicas, usually being turned away due to not being a guest.

Also, there are almost always chicas that are not selected by guests and would love to meet other guys.

"Mansion girls" as they're often called or freelancers that are allowed to enter the bar, offer a different type service than just the casa girls down in el Central, more of a GFE type service.

Mansion girls have already proven that guys will pay a premium for them over girls in the el Central casas.

If a chica gives bad service, naturally followed by a bad rep for them, means no repeat business, no new customers and most likely being banned.

Mansion girls are getting from 100-150K pesos, usually for a couple or few hours, sometimes all day / night, depending on chemestry, etc.

You're not getting that at Face Dos, the 40 minute San Diego rip off, etc.

Plus, from what he (Bob) tells me, the place will be open during the day too, already creating a market different than these night time clubs,

Sounds like a great concept to me.

There will always be nay-sayers, just like when the Mansion first opened. I for one hope the authorities let it fly, so we can see the end results.

Though I dig hangin' out at the Mayo, waiting for the gem to appear too, it just ain't for everyone, and it's definitely not going to happen till the late night hours.

Just saying.

[Dos Lunas]

"The Office" "La Oficina"

[Ricker]

First let me say good luck with your business venture I hope you do well. From what I've seen doing business in Colombia is should we say "Challenging".

Why would anybody pay $40-$50K just go go into your bar to pick up a prepago? Off the top of my head there are 10 different Mongering Options Available to them with out "tax". Por Ejemplo: Mayorista get's you a cuttie for an hour for your proposed entrance fee, Fase Dos / Luna Luares / San Diego if I remember correctly all have lower door charges (Granted there is no take out fee) , the casas, CB 1n2 and at night clubs.

If you're already at CB1 o CB2 why split the girls with the general population? Wouldn't that ruin the exclusive selection of cutties for the fellas staying at the spots? Are you going to have a separate pool of girls that only are available for guests? Only certain girls can go into the bar?

Just saying

First of all the 40-50K pesos was just a thought, it could be that or maybe lower, he'll (Medellin Bob) will figure out what the market calls for.

Every time I've stayed at the CB1 or 2, over the years, there have ALWAYS been guys showing up and wanting to hang out and meet the chicas, usually being turned away due to not being a guest.

Also, there are almost always chicas that are not selected by guests and would love to meet other guys.

"Mansion girls" as they're often called or freelancers that are allowed to enter the bar, offer a different type service than just the casa girls down in el Central, more of a GFE type service.
Mansion girls have already proven that guys will pay a premium for them over girls in the el Central casas.

If a chica gives bad service, naturally followed by a bad rep for them, means no repeat business, no new customers and most likely being banned.

Mansion girls are getting from 100-150K pesos, usually for a couple or few hours, sometimes all day / night, depending on chemestry, etc.
You're not getting that at Face Dos, the 40 minute San Diego rip off, etc.
Plus, from what he (Bob) tells me, the place will be open during the day too, already creating a market different than these night time clubs,

Sounds like a great concept to me.
There will always be nay-sayers, just like when the Mansion first opened. I for one hope the authorities let it fly, so we can see the end results.

Though I dig hangin' out at the Mayo, waiting for the gem to appear too, it just ain't for everyone, and it's definitely not going to happen till the late night hours.

Just saying.

[SlamCity7777]

Last time I was in LDV there was no admission charge and I don't think they had a gawker problem.

Of course I am a firm believer in capitalism, so it may work out. Also a good reason to stay at CB1 or 2, as that gives you a free pass.

Myself I will have to sit my butt at a table in Mayorista and drink my 2K beer while I am looking for the fabled diamond in the rough for 30K.

No matter what a lot of ISG members have been looking for a place like LDV in MDE. I must admit I hope it works out so at least we will stop getting the {Is there a place like Help or LDV in MDE.

First let me say good luck with your business venture I hope you do well. From what I've seen doing business in Colombia is should we say "Challenging".

Why would anybody pay $40-$50K just go go into your bar to pick up a prepago? Off the top of my head there are 10 different Mongering Options Available to them with out "tax". Por Ejemplo: Mayorista get's you a cuttie for an hour for your proposed entrance fee, Fase Dos / Luna Luares / San Diego if I remember correctly all have lower door charges (Granted there is no take out fee) , the casas, CB 1n2 and at night clubs.

If you're already at CB1 o CB2 why split the girls with the general population? Wouldn't that ruin the exclusive selection of cutties for the fellas staying at the spots? Are you going to have a separate pool of girls that only are available for guests? Only certain girls can go into the bar?

Just saying

[Guidoguido]

Having been to the "ceebees" many times over the years and knowing the owners and the clients and the. Pu. Pu. Pu. Providers- there is only one possible name for a bar in any casablanca anywhere in the world, but this one muy especial- PRICK'S CAFE

[John Gault]

Well I'm just off the phone with Medellin Bob, here's the scoop from his what he tells me.

The new litle club will be meant to be a place to come pick up freelancers, like a mini-LDV, just with earlier operating hours, and will feature a bar and a place to get some light meals.

He tells me the place will not be for Colombianos per se, but for gringos really and Colombianos that pay the admission can of course enter.

Gringos staying at the CB1 and 2 admission free and the general public will pay an admission to keep out the gawkers who come only to nurture a beer for 4 hours and watch the chicas only.

He's thinking 40-50K peso entrance for general public, but undecided still.

Still waiting for word for the license, maybe opening in a couple or few weeks.

Last time I was in LDV there was no admission charge and I don't think they had a gawker problem.

Of course I am a firm believer in capitalism, so it may work out. Also a good reason to stay at CB1 or 2, as that gives you a free pass.

Myself I will have to sit my butt at a table in Mayorista and drink my 2K beer while I am looking for the fabled diamond in the rough for 30K.

No matter what a lot of ISG members have been looking for a place like LDV in MDE. I must admit I hope it works out so at least we will stop getting the {Is there a place like Help or LDV in MDE.

[Frank Casio]

Hey guys, I don't think 40-50k pesos will work. I was going to do something like that on the Terrace at My Place for $10 (20, 000cop) cover charge, bring your own boose and the girls would be there, I think that was reasonable. But 40-50k pesos, I don't think you'll have too many takers, not even me. You pay 15-20k pesos cover at Fase ll and San Diego Grill and you get to see a whole lot of "naked" pussy dancing around. Why pay more to see a bunch of clothed ladies that will probably charge more than Fase ll and San Diego Grill. You guys are going to have to be more reasonable if you want it to work and not be just another Dead End Club like The Dollhouse. But that's just my humble opinion.

Frank Casio!

Well I'm just off the phone with Medellin Bob, here's the scoop from his what he tells me.

The new litle club will be meant to be a place to come pick up freelancers, like a mini-LDV, just with earlier operating hours, and will feature a bar and a place to get some light meals.

He tells me the place will not be for Colombianos per se, but for gringos really and Colombianos that pay the admission can of course enter.

Gringos staying at the CB1 and 2 admission free and the general public will pay an admission to keep out the gawkers who come only to nurture a beer for 4 hours and watch the chicas only.

He's thinking 40-50K peso entrance for general public, but undecided still.

Still waiting for word for the license, maybe opening in a couple or few weeks.