Medellin Reports

[Surfer500]

If I may speak for the forum, the feeling is mutual. I still can't figure out if you're really this cheap, or just trolling all of us. I really believe it's the latter and for pulling one over on us I give a tip (of the hat) to you! . Actually you wouldn't do that, please disregard jajaja!

He's a street rat, and for those in this elite group (jajaja), paying more than what the locals pay is hard to swallow. And contrary to what others may think, just because a guy is not willing to pay more than what the locals pay does not mean they are cheap outside of mongering.

[JjBee62]

The only thing I did was walk out of a few clubs and call a girl a ***** over text, which I later apologized for and she still wants to meet up. Then made a couple posts venting about my experiences. Nothing about that is throwing a tantrum. That's you being dismissive.

No. The first girl:

finished dancing and comes and asks me for a tip for her dancing. I say no, that's what I paid cover for. At this point I'm pissed. It's not about the money, it's the principle. Like maybe you think I'm cheap for not wanting to give her 2 or 5 mil (assuming you have those bills, once you dig into your pocket it's game over) but I think the club the club is cheap if they pay their dancers so little that they have to panhandle.

That's the beginning of a tantrum. Had you bothered to do any research you would have known that once girls come off stage they make the rounds and ask for tips, that a 2 k tip is standard and it's okay to politely decline. Then you rant that the strip club should pay the dancers more.

How does someone make it past the age of 12 without understanding that strippers get paid by tips from customers? "Tuck a buck", "make it rain?" If you've ever been in a strip club in your life you had to have seen guys tipping girls and girls making the rounds after the stage to get more tips. Then the first time it happens in Medellin you gripe about a non-existent strip club business model.

When a second dancer does the same, perfectly natural and normal strip club thing, you leave. The only way you could have been more clueless about how strip clubs work would be if you called the police to report naked women in the strip club.

As for your theory about how tipping panhandling strippers keeps the club full, I think that's just you making a logical leap just to make me feel ridiculous when I'm not being ridiculous. If a girl is hot, she will make good money just from guys wanting attention whether it be tips, drinks, private dances, or fucking in the back. If not, she will have to put on some extra charm to get by, which has not been the case in my experience. That's how it works in clubs in the USA, (since you made the comparison) and that's how it should work everywhere. You keep repeating how cheap 2 mil is as if you're not listening to my counter argument, or as if you're ignoring it completely for the convenience of your argument. The amount is irrelevant. If I want to tip a girl for her attention, I will give her 10 or 20. So no, I don't want to have to tip the bartender to help me fill my pockets with 2's so that girls I'm not interested in will leave me alone and not gossip about me in the dressing room (another thing you brought up). The system sucks, if you disagree, fine, but try to be respectful or at least not disingenuous in how paint your opponent's argument. I'm not the first one on here to say it's a dumb system, I'm not even the only one on here that's currently saying so, and I won't be the last. And judging by how argumentative you are, it really does nothing to convince me that I'm being ridiculous, moreso that you're just a bit abrasive let's say (so that this post gets approved).

They weren't panhandling. A panhandler does absolutely nothing and asks for money. Time for a Mr. Obvious lesson.

Strip clubs have girls called strippers. Strippers dance and remove their clothes to entertain the customers. The customers have the option of showing their appreciation by giving money to the stripper. That's called a tip. Tips are voluntary. If you decide to tip, the stripper will usually provide some type of physical display to thank you for the tip.

Get it now? They dance. They take off their clothes. They ask for tips. They provide entertainment. In exchange, they ask for a tip. Strippers in the US do it. Street performers around the world do it. It's completely, fucking normal and not something to get all pissy about.

You don't seem to know shit about strip clubs, in the US or anywhere else. Do you know how a good looking dancer makes money in the US? She does it by making the rounds, finding the customers who are there to spend money and then convincing them to open up their pockets. The most beautiful girl in the club, rarely makes more money than the hardest working girl in the club. And the hardest worker makes bank every time. The beauty queen, unless she's also working hard, only makes big bucks when she gets lucky.

I keep saying 2 k because the amount is important. However, you first have to remove your head from your ass and recognize that strippers asking for tips is the way things work. If 10 girls come by each hour and you tip each 2 k, you've spent $4. In an hour. In a strip club. If you're supposed to tip 10-20 k, you're potentially spending $20-$40 per hour.

Are you beginning to grasp it now? Nothing that happened in Fase 2 was worth getting pissed about, or walking out over. The exact same thing happens to every single person who goes to a strip club. However, everybody else realizes there are strippers in strip clubs, that the strippers strip and that after stripping, the strippers ask for tips.

Finally, let's be clear. I'm not abrasive. I'm an asshole. I'm an asshole because I don't join people's pity parties. Instead I tell them the way things are. And nobody wants to hear that when they're wallowing in self-pity.

I was the same way my first time. A bunch of assholes on ISG kept telling me that I was going about things the wrong way. For some stupid reason, they thought all their years of experience were more important than my idea of how things should be. Fortunately for me, I'm a quick learner. 4 hours into my trip which was about to become a complete disaster, I swallowed my pride, admitted that all those assholes had been right and I changed course. The rest of the trip was great. Had I stuck with my stupidity, I would have never mongered again.

Instead, here I am 8 years later, being the asshole and trying to keep people from ruining their trip. However, if you'd rather piss and moan instead of landing more good pussy than you can possibly handle, keep doing your thing.

[Chicago85]

So now I'm poor because I'm trying to maximize the value I get for the money I spend.

You know what * ISG I'm done trying to help you idiots out....

If I may speak for the forum, the feeling is mutual. I still can't figure out if you're really this cheap, or just trolling all of us. I really believe it's the latter and for pulling one over on us I give a tip (of the hat) to you! . Actually you wouldn't do that, please disregard jajaja!

[Surfer500]

I managed to overcome this obstacle by targetting more down to eartth girls. How? By trying to choose girls tht are humble, still have a sense of perspective, that don't have their heads up therei arses. I. e. Going low. Low-end, not high-end. Girls that repsect and value smaller things, like 20's instead of 100's. Haha, but its more than just cash. Its attitude.

There's quite a divide on this board between low end and high end girls (which I equate as "beauty queens") and for some guys it's all about how pretty / cute the girls are as this is their primary selection criteria.

[Combo]

You're not wrong. I'd actually go one step farther and say that I've outgrown this hobby altogether. I started banging hookers partly because I was put off by the entitlement of regular women. What do you do when you're put off by the entitlement of hookers? Something's got to give.

There are plenty of both "regular" women (yes even in the US) and hookers (abroad) that don't have an entitlement mindset.

[TalkYes]

So why on earth are you criticizing others' practices, such as tipping, when you don't go to them? Quite puzzled by that.

This is probably some kind of logical fallacy. Appeal to authority maybe? You don't like stripclubs therefore you don't frequent them therefore you're not allowed an opinion on them, when the whole reason he doesn't frequent them is because of his opinion on them, and nobody can stop him from having that opinion. I liked your quip about jerking off tho. That's kinda what I was getting at.

[JustTK]

What do you do when you're put off by the entitlement of hookers? Something's got to give.

Haha, that made me chortle. As someone else said, and I think I have kind of done myself, time for a reset. I too got in to paid sex to escape the BS that goes with regular dates. BUt really, its more to do with entitlement in general. Which does cross the divide between regular and paid.

I managed to overcome this obstacle by targetting more down to eartth girls. How? By trying to choose girls tht are humble, still have a sense of perspective, that don't have their heads up therei arses. I. e. Going low. Low-end, not high-end. Girls that repsect and value smaller things, like 20's instead of 100's. Haha, but its more than just cash. Its attitude.

[Tasss]

Is anyone familiar with this location? Probably an apartment or casa. It might be too generic to tell but worth a shot with all the collective knowledge here.

[Mr Enternational]

You're not wrong. I'd actually go one step farther and say that I've outgrown this hobby altogether. I started banging hookers partly because I was put off by the entitlement of regular women. What do you do when you're put off by the entitlement of hookers? Something's got to give.

Where were these regular women that you were put off by? When I am put off by regular chicks in one place I switch up places. When I am put off by hookers in one place then I switch up places.

For me it runs cyclical. There is more than one place to find regular chicks and hookers. I have always said that guys that travel to Place G for chicks just are not tired of the shit of chicks in Place G as they are the chicks in Place F. It seems you have a low tolerance and got tired of the shit from chicks in Place G much quicker than other guys.

Most guys are holding up a measuring stick from home and saying it is better than home. You are holding up your own measuring stick and saying there are just some things that I can not put up with period. I get it. How many guys would put up with a chick at home being 2 hours late? Yet in Colombia they accept it as the nature of the beast and put up with the shit. Until eventually they get tired of it and say fuck this shit.

[Nounce]

I remember reading somewhere that there might be locations that girls don't go to. I presume it was not a safe location and late night get togethers.

I'm looking at the Mandala Hotel Botero (maybe Hotel Calle Real) and I believe that is El Centro. I was about to book but realized that to get to the road its a walk, cars can't stop at the front door. Is this an ideal location for outcalls? I also plan on going to the bars but is it a safe enough location at night to travel between the building and the road.

Is the Nutibara a better location as it is on a road. Is there any other recommendations for hotels near El Centro that is in good proximity of bars and clubs, and the SW.

Feel free to PM if you prefer.

Nutibara is better for coming and leaving even late at night. Not so with the other two. Mandala will be better than Calle Real location wise.

[BarrioSpinners]

I remember reading somewhere that there might be locations that girls don't go to. I presume it was not a safe location and late night get togethers.

I'm looking at the Mandala Hotel Botero (maybe Hotel Calle Real) and I believe that is El Centro. I was about to book but realized that to get to the road its a walk, cars can't stop at the front door. Is this an ideal location for outcalls? I also plan on going to the bars but is it a safe enough location at night to travel between the building and the road.

Is the Nutibara a better location as it is on a road. Is there any other recommendations for hotels near El Centro that is in good proximity of bars and clubs, and the SW.

Feel free to PM if you prefer.

I was also looking at Hotel Calle Real than I read uber / taxi can't stop in front of the place and I didn't like it for this reason so I'm thinking of Ayenda 1248 Conquistadores, very close to Veracruz street action. My plan is to visits the casas in the afternoon and hunt for street candies in the morning but I don't want to bring them over to my place just love motels. It should be alright to walk from carrera 54 up a little north where la Conejitas and barra ejecutiva are as long as it's not dark and shops are open. Also To check is Ayenda 1235 Botero. I haven't contact them yet, but I would like to know if they accept cash / debit card as per booking. Com they take reservations without online payment. Hotel Calle Real might be girl friendly according to a video on youtube where this guy review the area in regards of mongering.

[Huacho]

What do you do when you're put off by the entitlement of hookers?

Have you considered jerking off?

[Huacho]

I don't even go to the strip clubs

So why on earth are you criticizing others' practices, such as tipping, when you don't go to them? Quite puzzled by that.

[Marxh]

I remember reading somewhere that there might be locations that girls don't go to. I presume it was not a safe location and late night get togethers.

I'm looking at the Mandala Hotel Botero (maybe Hotel Calle Real) and I believe that is El Centro. I was about to book but realized that to get to the road its a walk, cars can't stop at the front door. Is this an ideal location for outcalls? I also plan on going to the bars but is it a safe enough location at night to travel between the building and the road.

Is the Nutibara a better location as it is on a road. Is there any other recommendations for hotels near El Centro that is in good proximity of bars and clubs, and the SW.

Feel free to PM if you prefer.

[TalkYes]

Medellin is not the place you want to have your type of energy or attitude in. Clearly this city is not your vibe and it is not going to become your vibe. I would change your plans and head somewhere else before you find the wrong kind of trouble that will check your attitude very fast.

You're not wrong. I'd actually go one step farther and say that I've outgrown this hobby altogether. I started banging hookers partly because I was put off by the entitlement of regular women. What do you do when you're put off by the entitlement of hookers? Something's got to give.