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  1. #64963
    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    Common sense bro. Of course our lives is worth more than a few hundreds. I'm not in danger LOL. Mde itself is. Can't allow fear to run me off like that, and just like in everything it's risk management. I met a fella the other at a casa and he lives in bello w a local wife. Doesn't date on app or mess w the scene that targets us and he's fine. We can see many on YT living and enjoying the city, incl women expats. So while the dangers exists, which is in every country mde just require a new level of awareness since it's changing. And no I wouldn't even come if I knew things would worsen. Medellin is on a transition of increase danger, maybe going back to its old ways unless things change. And we don't want to be the Guinea pig for the experiment till others stop coming LOL. So I will get the fuck out, just on my own terms. The slight hood and ganster idgaf side of me hate the idea of being forced to do anything. If I'm in the street and everyone starts running I'm usually calm and walk. Call me a rebel LOL. I'm just glad that many tourists are now canceling their plans to come here and hopefully soon a huge reduction of tourism can starve these mfrs.
    Completely agree, though it's clear that "common sense" differs significantly from person to person. That's why tools like Chica Check can help guys who are new to MDE, before they get targeted by scammers / robbers; at least it was helpful for me. Even got a free month of VIP access after a chat with the admin.

  2. #64962

    New Life sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by ElPostino  [View Original Post]
    That's 2nd increase in a year for that same boring sloppy lineup.
    New Life is for the moron weekend warrior newbys who don't speak spanish and have no clue what they are doing.

    The girls there are trash, beat up, run-thru hags. 5 years ago we would make a stop there once in awhile and occasionally find a fresh girl.

    Those days are long gone.

  3. #64961
    Unlikely? For every grainy hotel and apartment security camera video of unattractive street girls carrying sacks of some unfortunate punters belongs, there are many more videos of armed robberies in restaurants and bars. The closest I've personally come to witnessing one was when I read about the robbery and realized I was having a meal just across the street when it happened. I figure if I can be that close at the same time and not even notice it then I needed to up my precaution game. If you look at some of the videos what stands out is how nonchalant the victims are, almost as if they expect it. The Colombian saying is "hoy me tocó. ".

    Quote Originally Posted by Putero1  [View Original Post]
    Like a place that is right off of the street and some morons walk in off their bike to rob cell phones. Yeah, unlikely but possible. But if you are out with a girl in almost any club or nice restaurant, you are safer in the club than when you hop in a taxi to go home. Nicer decent clubs in Poblado or la 70 have security at the door. I was responding to Tex, who thinks taking a girl out dancing in Medellin is a high risk activity because you may end up looking down the barrel of a gun. Cheers.

  4. #64960
    I haven't been in there often or recently enough to judge the lineup. Based on what I know of the place I have no reason to doubt your assessment. With no hesitation I will say the atmosphere in the waiting area has always been a bad combination of an inner city medical clinic waiting room, an American frat party, and an abandoned property auction. I'm mystified by its popularity.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElPostino  [View Original Post]
    That's 2nd increase in a year for that same boring sloppy lineup.

  5. #64959
    Bienestar familiar (the agency you mentioned) has had an office in the alleyway leading from Parque Berrio to church for many years. Also, the police's women and children special brigade regularly set up intervention tents and work out of their vans in the middle of the plaza. How effective they have been I will leave up to the experts. When the barriers were initially put up I posted here that the one advantage was the reduction in vendors with loudspeakers and the most annoying of the panhandler / thieves. I also complained that those benefits did not begin to outweigh the disadvantage for my main reason for being in the plaza. Your point about limited access for the less privileged is very well taken. Not long before his death, Botero himself cited this as the reason he disagreed with the barrier. All that aside, I stand by my assessment that the real reason for the barriers in Centro and Poblado was political. The Mayor, who had been recalled and who later resigned in disgrace, did it as a political stunt to revive his moribund election campaign. Good riddance to the barrier and to the clownish Daniel Quintero. I am Knowledge and I approve of this message.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeos1  [View Original Post]
    There were a number of reasons for the barriers, and it was not to get rid of mongering, but to keep it and the vendors, etc etc out of the immediate area of the museum. The area behind the museum and the behind the little white church is zoned as a red light area (zona de tolerencia) but I don't think that extends out into the plaza Botero. Anyway, it seems like it is an unpopular effort and especially the part where it is seen as keeping the less privileged people away from the public displays of Botero art, the sculptures, etc.

    The barriers changing the traffic flow into Parque Lleras were set up specifically over concerns about underage prostitution, and there initially was some presence of agencies that try to combat that, for example they had staff at the area around the entrance to try to talk to and protect children that were hanging out around there. Again, whether this has helped to deal with that who knows. And it may have also been to try to slow down the prostitution in general in that area, as the city was seeing it as a negative for general tourism and for the image of the city. They certainly do not like being seen as a sex tourism destination.

  6. #64958
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    This is what I was referring to in my response to the "I don't want the barriers removed" posts. The new mayor is known for a firm anti-crime and law enforcement stance.
    There were a number of reasons for the barriers, and it was not to get rid of mongering, but to keep it and the vendors, etc etc out of the immediate area of the museum. The area behind the museum and the behind the little white church is zoned as a red light area (zona de tolerencia) but I don't think that extends out into the plaza Botero. Anyway, it seems like it is an unpopular effort and especially the part where it is seen as keeping the less privileged people away from the public displays of Botero art, the sculptures, etc.

    The barriers changing the traffic flow into Parque Lleras were set up specifically over concerns about underage prostitution, and there initially was some presence of agencies that try to combat that, for example they had staff at the area around the entrance to try to talk to and protect children that were hanging out around there. Again, whether this has helped to deal with that who knows. And it may have also been to try to slow down the prostitution in general in that area, as the city was seeing it as a negative for general tourism and for the image of the city. They certainly do not like being seen as a sex tourism destination.

  7. #64957
    Quote Originally Posted by YahnCruz  [View Original Post]
    New life half hour cost is now 70.
    That's 2nd increase in a year for that same boring sloppy lineup.

  8. #64956

    Sosua Veteren Going to MDE

    Hello, will be going to MDE next week, or Back to SOSUA LOL. I'm a bit uncomfortable I'm so used to Sosua. I Would like to know exactly where all the action is, I've seen videos on YouTube of "Parque Lleras" with alot of chicas at night, and Also El Centro that was marked as "dangerous" but nice woman roaming around, and I'm going to assume brothels. Not quit sure the walking distance between the areas. What area should I stay in or landmark should stay close to (Airbnb) where I could walk to all the action. Thanks in advance! I've attached links to the videos I'm talking about in the description.

    Will decide and book my flight tonight based on you guys feedback! Thanks a million times.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo5V1k4R0nU&t=975s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv9yL3mxfS4

  9. #64955
    I watched the video and realized it is about Cartagena after I responded. I usually avoid youtube videos of this sort. It's a good example of how random guys can say whatever they want on there and viewers pick up on it in a game of telephone and turn it into the media frenzy we are seeing now about the dangers of Medellin. If it keeps nervous punters away I guess it's not a bad thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    No no not in Medellin bro it's Cartagena. In Medellin we got a good new mayor who was previously the mayor in 2016 - 2019 and street mongering is alive and well, in fact the new mayor here is actually promoting mongering by having removed the stupid barriers and returning the area to how it used to be before 2023.

  10. #64954
    Inflation is real. I'm pretty sure Amigas Sexxy is still 65/ half hour. It's starting to get popular with gringos lately. The nearby Aiffe is only 60/ half hour but really struggling for staff quality.

    Quote Originally Posted by YahnCruz  [View Original Post]
    New life half hour cost is now 70.

  11. #64953
    New life half hour cost is now 70.

  12. #64952
    This is what I was referring to in my response to the "I don't want the barriers removed" posts. The new mayor is known for a firm anti-crime and law enforcement stance.

    Quote Originally Posted by DoomBringer321  [View Original Post]
    What do you think of these new ordinances from the city of Medallin new mayor put it down guess he does not want public mongering.

    https://youtu.be/UVjozKqkmSw?si=qsJ9d1vHF5LtHEs0

  13. #64951
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    It happens in restaurants from time to time. This is why I avoid having my back to the street or sitting at table on or near the street. If something pops off I want to have a chance to stash valuables before the crooks get to me.
    Like a place that is right off of the street and some morons walk in off their bike to rob cell phones. Yeah, unlikely but possible. But if you are out with a girl in almost any club or nice restaurant, you are safer in the club than when you hop in a taxi to go home. Nicer decent clubs in Poblado or la 70 have security at the door. I was responding to Tex, who thinks taking a girl out dancing in Medellin is a high risk activity because you may end up looking down the barrel of a gun. Cheers.

  14. #64950
    Quote Originally Posted by DoomBringer321  [View Original Post]
    What do you think of these new ordinances from the city of Medallin new mayor put it down guess he does not want public mongering.

    https://youtu.be/UVjozKqkmSw?si=qsJ9d1vHF5LtHEs0
    No no not in Medellin bro it's Cartagena. In Medellin we got a good new mayor who was previously the mayor in 2016 - 2019 and street mongering is alive and well, in fact the new mayor here is actually promoting mongering by having removed the stupid barriers and returning the area to how it used to be before 2023.

  15. #64949
    Quote Originally Posted by DoomBringer321  [View Original Post]
    What do you think of these new ordinances from the city of Medallin new mayor put it down guess he does not want public mongering.

    https://youtu.be/UVjozKqkmSw?si=qsJ9d1vHF5LtHEs0
    That's 1. Cartagena only, not Medellin 2. Only applies to the historic area, and 3. Temporary: only until March 24'.

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