Medellin Reports

[Knowledge]

I'm confused, what is supposed to be hard to believe. There are piles of youtube videos of random street scenes around Medellin. Anyone can watch them and judge for themselves. Personally I don't care if guys wear burkas or diapers. It changes nothing for me.

I know you will not believe this, but trust me it is 100% true.

Earlier today I was talking with a girl, a university student from Medellin spending 1 year of study in my country (no, I do not fuck, I have my reputation and I pretend to be totally uninterested to girls from Medellin).

So we had a conversation starting with "how is situation in Medellin now?", then "are there tourists?", etc. She said that the President decided to reopen the country to tourists in spite of the terrible COVID situation, and people from USA are now coming, etc.

So I could not refrain to ask
- "Wow! Many gringos are used to go to Medellin? I remember I was seeing many around the city"
and she
. "Siii... Todos en Lleras..!".

I am a nasty guy, so I insisted "And also in Centro? How do you spot them??"
- "Siiii... muchos... se veen muchos caminando, todos estan con pantalones cortos!"

When I heard this I wanted to rush to the computer. I could not wait longer to write this here.

[Kulibali]

I know you will not believe this, but trust me it is 100% true.

Earlier today I was talking with a girl, a university student from Medellin spending 1 year of study in my country (no, I do not fuck, I have my reputation and I pretend to be totally uninterested to girls from Medellin).

So we had a conversation starting with "how is situation in Medellin now?", then "are there tourists?", etc. She said that the President decided to reopen the country to tourists in spite of the terrible COVID situation, and people from USA are now coming, etc.

So I could not refrain to ask
- "Wow! Many gringos are used to go to Medellin? I remember I was seeing many around the city"
and she
. "Siii... Todos en Lleras..!".

I am a nasty guy, so I insisted "And also in Centro? How do you spot them??"
- "Siiii... muchos... se veen muchos caminando, todos estan con pantalones cortos!"

When I heard this I wanted to rush to the computer. I could not wait longer to write this here.

Ha Ha, that might be why we couldn't get a cab at 7 pm. One time my friend and I were walking toward la 70 after getting lost looking for a casa, we tried to flag down several cabs none would stop for us. When we finally got to the apartments, we were asking the portero why the taxis wouldn't pull over, he laughingly said that we looked too much like colombians LOL. We even had chicas called us ratas, thinking that we were colombians acting as gringos. I guess we should have worn shorts.

[Mr Enternational]

Everybody finds their thing, whatever that thing is, and they do it. There's no understanding it. You have said you make all the hookers say they love you. Baffles the fuck out of me, why, but that's your thing.

LOL. That is just me clowning and talking shit to chicks. It is a song called U Ain't Gotta Mean It: Tell me that you love me when we fucking you ain't gotta mean it. I also say shit like "Girl if your mama could see you now". Or "If this is a dream then I am going to be mad as hell. "

[Villainy]

........Chicks are saying if I can get this amount from sending a guy pics and videos. For 1 I don't need to sell pussy. 2 I might as well up my price if if I am going to do more physical and harmful work. You give them options and it affects the market. Like I said if your doing it for humanitarian purposes I can understand but geez why why why if there is free porn. The point about free food in a dumpster don't ever use that again. Makes less sense than buying pics and videos.

I see people making this same (or closely related) argument all the time. Let's think this through a little, shall we?

Girl is selling pics and videos to scare up a little money. Does this mean that she thinks to herself. HEY self! If I can sell the suckers some pics and videos I don't need to sell my holy vag, or better yet, I can sell it for more.

Maybe you think that way but you're dealing with an immature girl who doesn't think anything like the way you do.

Let me explain. Young little paisa makes a few pesos selling the pics and vids. She doesn't put that money in a bank account. Most banks won't let her open an account because she doesn't have a job. So what does she do? She spends that money. She buys a shirt she likes, or another pair of sneakers or a flashy purse but she spends it. Tomorrow she looks in her barren wallet and it all starts again. She's going to sell what every can be sold to make some more money. Her holy vag is not exempt because of yesterday's pic and vid sale.

We often see the typical thesis. Don't overpay you'll ruin it for all of us. Seriously? What a joke. Let's see how it plays out for our young paisa. She gets a call after watching tele-novelas all day. Guy offers her 150 mil + taxi and she's en route after a little clean up and stuff. She gets there does her thing takes the money and goes home. First thing she stops at her store and gets a new pair of shoes she really wants and then goes home and gives mom 20 mil for looking after her little kid. She calls up her best amiga and tells her she had a good score and they go out drinking. Maybe some guys buy them drinks but most likely not because local men are as cheap as a lot of the mongerers on here. So a little tipsy she finally goes home. She wakes up and looks in her wallet and there it is 12 mil and 300 pesos. And it starts all over again just like yesterday. Oh and if our visiting extranjero paid her 250 mil + taxi? She just bought the shoes and a pair of designer pants she wants, gives her mother 30 mil for baby sitting and household expenses and invites her best 2 amigas to go out dancing and drinking. Same result in the morning 12 mil 300 pesos. Did the guy who overpaid ruin the market? I don't think so.

Are all girls like this? Maybe not all but certainly most. BTW she doesn't write any notes on the guys she sees so she won't remember what you paid her but she will remember the guys who give her extra money. She likes them. So do I f* it up for you? Maybe, the next time you make a date and she doesn't show or cancels, it might be because someone else offered her a little more and she canceled you to be with him. Happens all the time.

I'm not saying to throw your money around (that can cause you problems in a different direction) but the premise that it screws up the marketplace is laughable.

[Black Page]

I know you will not believe this, but trust me it is 100% true.

Earlier today I was talking with a girl, a university student from Medellin spending 1 year of study in my country (no, I do not fuck, I have my reputation and I pretend to be totally uninterested to girls from Medellin).

So we had a conversation starting with "how is situation in Medellin now?", then "are there tourists?", etc. She said that the President decided to reopen the country to tourists in spite of the terrible COVID situation, and people from USA are now coming, etc.

So I could not refrain to ask
- "Wow! Many gringos are used to go to Medellin? I remember I was seeing many around the city"
and she
. "Siii... Todos en Lleras..!".

I am a nasty guy, so I insisted "And also in Centro? How do you spot them??"
- "Siiii... muchos... se veen muchos caminando, todos estan con pantalones cortos!"

When I heard this I wanted to rush to the computer. I could not wait longer to write this here.

[Black Page]

BP,

I agree with your general point, but there is considerable variation in the processing of the pills and the variation of the amount of medication in the pill. I think you can vary the amount by up to 20% so 50 MG may not always be 50 MG.

True, but if the manufacturer does not have high quality standards. Actually, the tolerance on the amount of medication is the main problem of generic drugs, when they come from lower quality industry. (I exclude fake products, counterfeited)

Here nobody (or at least not me) claimed to buy *any* generic and be confident it is equivalent to the original brand. The point is that if the manufacturer has its good reputation and works under quality controls of the local Agency, paying more for the "original" is just stupid (yet psychological action has its merit): the two products are 100% equivalent.

One may not trust Colombia as a system and Colombian Pharma Industry, but Colombia is not Papua New Guinea. Maybe tomorrow Colombia newspapers will post articles on a scandal affecting Genfar, proven to cheat and do not apply quality policies, but this did not happen yet. For the time being, I trust MK and Genfar, as Colombian doctors do.

Once again: in my country (I would say in all Europe) we have even a law that obliges the doctors to prescribe the generic, if available, and not explicitly the original, unless a generic fully equivalent is not available. In some cases, the public service does not even reimburse original products above the price of the equivalent generic.

[Blakman]

At the end of the day we agree to disagree and since you can bring humor to the debate your alright with me. But please no more expounding on eating out the dumpster. Homeless people does that. Hopefully theres no one on this site homeless. So its an irrelevant analogy.

I've stood right there on la 70 and watched people opening up the bags of garbage the restaurants set out at night and start eating. Might not be as warm or fresh, but it's the same food other people are paying for in the restaurant.

Here's something that will really make you happy. You know those uneaten side items, or uneaten chips or salsa? Restaurants have been known to. Shall we say, recycle? Had it happen to me once. Found something in my food that could have only been put there by another diner.

So now you're spending money on food that may have been partially eaten by someone else and claiming it's somehow superior to getting the same thing for free. Yet you claim paying for specific porn, from a specific girl, often with special requests to suit someone's fetishes is much worse than accepting generic, made for everyone, porn? That right there is hypocrisy! Either start eating out of the garbage, or stop complaining about people buying porn.

Are you trying to tell me that you have been unable to find any girls who will come over for less than 200 k plus taxi? Because before, 150 k plus taxi or 200 k was pretty much the standard rate. If people buying pics and videos has raised the prices, then there's no way you're getting away with less than 200 k.

Now that I think about it, you need to back your blame up at least 7 years. That's when the Colombian webcam industry started booming. I won't repeat the amount of money that can be made on webcam. Anyone interested can look it up. There's a job without physical interaction with guys, which offers more money than most hookers can make. It's even more tempting now since 7 years ago the exchange was 1900 to 1 and now it's 3800 to 1, and they get paid in dollars.

Why aren't you screaming bloody murder at the guys who view webcams? If a few months of a few girls selling videos has ruined the market, just imagine how much 30 k-40 k Colombian webcam models have ruined the market in the past 7 years.

Yes, there are girls who want to sell pics and videos. Shit, 6 years ago there were girls trying to sell pics and videos. There are also girls who want guys to send money. There are girls who want guys to send gifts. There are girls who want guys to take them on trips. I had one girl ask me to buy her a moto.

But you know what all those girls do when the guy they're talking to won't play their game? They switch to whatever will get them paid.

For a price, I'll be happy to teach you my course on how to deal with these types of situations. Normally I'd give an ISG discount. However, since I've already explained it to you 3 times, I'll need to charge full price.

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[Lucky Nuts]

I can't believe all of the posts about the little blue pill that the majority of the board members use. It's been around a long time, and I even remember Pfizer's first pitch man for the product Bob Dole. I guess that calls me out as an old fart. It's interesting that after this drug came out, there were a lot of subsequent divorces.

It actually was a miracle drug at the time when you think about it, when it came out it enabled men who hadn't been able to get an erection let alone maintain one have sex after many years of being impotent. Hence a lot of guys getting divorced and chasing after younger women, and what a bonaza for mongers!

Yeah I remember those commercials too as a teenager. Also remember Johnny Carson saying he went into the bathroom to try this new "miracle drug" but accidentally dropped the pill in the toilet aaaaand.

The toilet seat popped up! Ba Dum Bump!

[Elvis 2008]

If a chick pizzes me off or does not want to be with me then it is a simple hit the door; good luck with the next guy. I am not rubbing my hands together scheming how can I show her who's boss

If all you are interested in is a working girl and only what is between a woman's legs that is a great strategy. Why would I give up on the best women who have a flaw or two that can be corrected?

If you want to know how someone really feels about you then you DON'T give them money. However you choose to throw more and more money at them hoping it will cause their sentiments to change.

You really do not understand the game. You show women money to get their interest. After that, you are on your own.

In fact, the best women hate the notion that they are pay for play and often bend over backwards to prove they are not.

Of the seven women I saw in Colombia, I paid one a wage, gave cash gifts to three which was my choice (I just stuck the money in their purses), and gave no cash to the other three.

Every day my phone lights up from these women. I love you, I miss you, when are you coming to see me? 4 from women today and 8 from women in the last four days, and there was not one request for cash.

You don't have to try to buy someone that really likes you for you. And as you have seen, a chick even only will like your money for so long.

The problem with you Mr. E is you make judgements and only read whatever you want. When I was giving the women money, it was not a blank check, it was money for needs and a lot of times I turned them down.

I think that you are totally oblivious to what these Colombian women were going through and now that things have opened up, I have told them I am going to only give them money when I am see them unless they have a huge need.

Later this month, I will be flying a woman to meet me where I live. Sure, I have to pay for an airline ticket, but I would do that with a girlfriend. You guys and your shit are always diminishing the quality of the women but if this woman were here, she would be getting $500 an hour. For three days, the going rate for her would be 3 to 5 grand. Still, when I communicated to her about the flight, money was never brought up. We have great sex, but we enjoy each other's company.

This the resume of the woman I called my super model. She is a different woman.

Miss Teen Venezuela World Star Model.

Miss Venezuela Caribbean international.

Modelo en la fashion week cartagena Colombia.

Actriz principal obra de teatro "PLAN b" - Venezuela.

Modelo e imagen de diversas marcas Rolex-World Golf Championships (Mexico), Nike (Chile), FOREVER21 (panama), Chilevision (Chile), CMB (consejo mundial de boxeo), Porshe (Panama), F1 (Gran premio de mexico 2017) entre muchas otras.

This woman was mad at me because she found the hair of another woman in the shower of my hotel room. Is that something a working girl would be upset at? It shows she had an emotional investment in me, and it spurred on a conversation. I told her that I thought we were going to be friends and I would see her when I was in Mexico City. I said that I did not think you wanted to be my sugar baby or my novia? She said, "I want to be your novia. And I said, "Well, I said. I do not feel like you do. I text you and call you and you do not respond."

She said her family who is in Venezuela had stressed her out so much with texts and calls she would just turn off her phone. She had been supporting them with her modeling but because of Covid, she was out of work. That time, I did not give her any cash. I just sent money to her family in Venezuela because I had learned how. She has been much better responding since then.

You can pay for sex and passion. What you cannot pay for is after that. Does she stroke your head, give you that special loving look and smile, and then buries her head in your chest like there is nowhere else in the world she would rather be? To me, that is almost better than the sex. If I do not get that, I suspect the woman is a working girl.

The woman coming to see me asked for $150 to help with her credit card a few weeks ago, and all you would say is, "You paid a woman and got no sex? Ha, you are an idiot. Never pay in advance." That $150 helped cement a $5000 value.

So you guys can laugh all you want at the times I give $150 and get burned. If I buy five stocks, and four go to zero and one goes up 1000% I have made a killing, yet all you dummies think that I have done is lost money.

I showed the picture of the beauty queen I met in Cartagena. Instead of asking how did you land that, you dummies are like, "those pictures are from her Tinder page." And I have never used Tinder.

The more mature but wrong question I get is how much? You can show women that you have money and are successful, but if you make these women feel like hookers and are paying them for services rendered then you have already lost.

You think you are so smart Mr. E but you do not even get the concept of investing in women. You think spending money on women is purely a cost, and the reality is that I am getting way better than you and for waaaay cheaper. The funny part is I think there is a part of you that knows it too.

[Forever18]

Maybe you should ask in the Russia or Ukraine forum. They would know better.

No one talks about SA there.

[Forever18]

Nov 2018 I went to Moscow for my bday, I had never tried SA before, well Moscow is a very tough town to monger, so I thought I would try SA within 1-2 hours a few girls including an African sent me messages.

I asked how much most said either $1500 or $2000 for 2 hrs, I laughed and responded OK, 2000 or 1500 rubles, they immediately blocked me, 2 or 3 hrs later I was blocked from SA.

Someone must of reported me, and SA kicked me off and gave me a refund.

I got similar response recently. Some rich millionaires or billionaires must be spoiling them. I also encounter a lot of scammers, asking me to transfer money online. Telling him her sister is sick and no healthcare. Another girl said she is starving.

[Forever18]

I agree.

This most certainly applies to many mongers that think pussy is better if it cost $500.

I have tried expensive supermodel pussy, and it made me feel like a chump.

I also have tried viagra and cialis in Mexico and it is garbage, it isn't much better in Asia.

I sometimes alternate with viagra and cialis scripts in USA and can state unequivocally the branded pills are superior.

Sometimes you get what you pay for, ie boner pills, sometimes you don't, ie overpriced vagina.

You can pay for chaturbate or watch for free.

You can pay for pornhub or watch for free.

You can join and pay any of the other porn websites or watch for free ala pornhub et al.

How much do you usually pay for 2 hours and overnight for the girls in Medellin?

[Member #4665]

A month ago a want to be WebCam girl message my friend. He went to her Virtual room that shee was just starting out and she had a huge sign saying it was Her birthday and was asking viewers for money and gifts. Her birthday. Suuure. A month later she message my friend again she Explained at the beginning of the month she didn't have Internet so she stayed Somewhere That provided her with Internet and now she owed the tenant rent money. Of course she made nothing from her WebCam photos nor videos. Not even enough to pay thee rent. She kept telling myFriend that she was going to resort to escorting to pay her rent and Internet bill.

SoJudging by this story I suppose practically all web cam girls are broke and just like this online YouTube video business only a very few percentage of performers are actually making excessive amounts of money and then the next percentage is living below the poverty line and after that practically nobody makes anything. This web cam stuff is just the side hustle at least for most girls. If theey get lucky maybe they make some beer money.

Concerning the other post talking about leftover food at restaurants. I never really understood that because I always take all my leftover food in the restaurant home and Eat it later the same day or the following day. I just can't understand why anybody would leave food on the plate. Maybe to help out the homeboys opening the bags at the end of the day?

[Kazeu]

Are you trying to tell me that you have been unable to find any girls who will come over for less than 200 k plus taxi? Because before, 150 k plus taxi or 200 k was pretty much the standard rate. If people buying pics and videos has raised the prices, then there's no way you're getting away with less than 200 k.

That's too simplistic a view of the market. The price isn't controlled entirely entirely by people buying pics and videos. But to say that it doesn't have any effect is not very smart. You can have the prices stay the same but still have an upward pressure on prices due to other factors pushing prices down. You can also have prices stay the same but the product shifts underneath. Meaning sure you can find girls for 150 k and 200 k but they're not the same caliber of girls that used to be available at that price.

If you're buying pics and videos off the internet and are happy with it that's great, but it definitely does affect prices.

Now that I think about it, you need to back your blame up at least 7 years. That's when the Colombian webcam industry started booming. I won't repeat the amount of money that can be made on webcam. Anyone interested can look it up. There's a job without physical interaction with guys, which offers more money than most hookers can make. It's even more tempting now since 7 years ago the exchange was 1900 to 1 and now it's 3800 to 1, and they get paid in dollars.

Those were the days, less gringos in parque lleras but everything overall more expensive. I'm not sure how long 3800 is going to last, but lets enjoy it while it does.

Why aren't you screaming bloody murder at the guys who view webcams? If a few months of a few girls selling videos has ruined the market, just imagine how much 30 k-40 k Colombian webcam models have ruined the market in the past 7 years.

Yes, there are girls who want to sell pics and videos. Shit, 6 years ago there were girls trying to sell pics and videos. There are also girls who want guys to send money. There are girls who want guys to send gifts. There are girls who want guys to take them on trips. I had one girl ask me to buy her a moto.

I make it pretty clear I don't want to buy girls shit. I don't even want to give them taxi money.

But you know what all those girls do when the guy they're talking to won't play their game? They switch to whatever will get them paid.

True that.

For a price, I'll be happy to teach you my course on how to deal with these types of situations. Normally I'd give an ISG discount. However, since I've already explained it to you 3 times, I'll need to charge full price.

I'll take your guide, sound like a steal. I have some pics and videos for in exchange.

At the end of the day, people are going to spend what they are going to spend try to justify it to themselves to make themselves feel good. I do the same thing. Everyone does.

[Member #4665]

Cutting in line by overpaying is not the solution.

This is actually an interesting critique. I agree it's not good for Ronnie to out bid Lucy's current customer so Lucy goes home with Ronnie. It's Way better for Ronnie to find an alternative to Lucy that isn't busy with a another customer. However, the problem arises when Ronnie can't find an alternative. Ronnie isn't attracted to the other girls. Buying time with girls Ronnie doesn't like is worse than jerking off.

The solution here is to find a bigger market Or market that actually interest Ronnie.