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  1. #51356
    There are comparatively few providers around Provenza and they operate very subtly. Even fewer of them stroll the area unaccompanied because the business owners and city agencies don't permit it. It's nothing like Parque Lleras. As I wrote in an earlier post, Parque Lleras is all about punters, providers, and the businesses that cater to them. Provenza is a place to go out where you don't have to deal with a punter / provider centric environment. A well known restaurant in Provenza for years has prominently displayed a sign in its entrance area that reads (in English) "say no to the sex tourist!

    Quote Originally Posted by RacShack  [View Original Post]
    Are you saying lots of working girls now hang out in Provenza or just that the businesses are in full swing?

  2. #51355
    This went over my head. What are you getting at?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    Do a survey on ISG and ask the black mongers why they like Colombia / MDE so much?

  3. #51354
    Quote Originally Posted by Orgasmico  [View Original Post]
    If you already know that you are a mark in Medellin, than you play at your own risk. Self awareness is very important. I never blame the girls because I think many people would do the same or worse if they were in their shoes. I'm actually surprised more dudes don't report getting got given the economy and poverty in Medellin.
    Just a matter of reporting.

  4. #51353
    Quote Originally Posted by FunLuvr  [View Original Post]
    I arrived Thursday night at about 11 pm. Immigration was checking everyone's vaccine card and the Check-mig document. That is the first time they have checked Check-mig on arrival. I had spent 161 days in Colombia this year. I am staying 11 days this trip. The immigration agent questioned me about the number of days I had remaining. He said he could only authorize 14 days. That was more than I needed, but I thought it was strange. That would take me to December 30. He wrote 14 on the visa stamp.

    While standing in line at immigration, a couple behind me asked about entry requirements. I told them all the requirements that are on the Copa website. I also discussed the entry requirements to the US when they return. I commented that it was a stupid Biden rule to get the Covid test one day before departure, and repeated what the CEO of Southwest Airlines said about masks on airplanes. There was a young woman in front of me who turned around and said "You all can stop that conversation". I suppose she is the typical liberal - suppress all speech they don't agree with.

    Because it was late, I could not check in at the airbnb I rented. I stayed one night at Hotel Sauces del Estadio in Laureles. Costs was 132,000 COP for one "king-sized" room with free breakfast. The room was pretty small with a queen-sized bed, even though their web site says a king-sized bed. The hotel is chica friendly for one guest if you reserve for two, no extra charge. I didn't ask if a different guest was allowed. The hotel staff were very friendly, both at night and the next morning.
    You started off strong. It's good to know Migracion is also checking the Check Mig form now. The way they figure days is confusing at times. I had stayed 178 days before I got my 6 month student visa, but the expiration of my student visa was 1 year and 1 week after my initial entry.

    After that you went downhill.

    The girl was right. There's a time and place for certain conversations and that was neither the time nor the place. Try a different subject and see how it makes you feel? For example, if someone behind you said "If Trump hadn't been stupid about Covid, we wouldn't have to get tested now", how would you feel?

    *The preceding was merely an illustration to show how different people are offended by different things. It is not a judgement on any political party or figure.

    Continuing, she was not suppressing your speech. She simply stated that that was not the place for that type of talk. Examples are easy to come by. Here's one which has happened to me. You're sitting and enjoying your meal at a nice restaurant and the people at the next table are loudly discussing their various health issues, including all the gory details. It's disgusting. If you ask them to save that discussion for another time and place, are you suppressing their speech?

    The irony of your mention of the CEO of Southwest airlines argument against masks on planes is that he just tested positive for Covid.

    There's a quite simple way to look at masks on planes. Every flight, the safety briefing mentions the life vests and seat cushions as flotation devices, in the event of a water landing. Not all flights fly over any body of water big enough for a water landing, but they still give all the details.

    The safety briefing is mainly to make passengers feel safer. Let's face it, if the plane crashes, they'll be picking up body parts with a shovel. There are plenty of people with anxiety about flying. Would you rather be sitting next to one who is freaking out, or one who believes that seatbelt is going to do any good in event of a crash?

    There are plenty of people who have anxiety about Covid. Even if the masks are not effective in any way, they serve to provide a bit of peace of mind for some people.

    As for the continued lament about the 1 day prior testing requirement, at worst it's a minor inconvenience. Why are people treating it as if it's the end of the world? It only takes an hour or less to get the results, so 3 days or 1 day really doesn't matter. I suppose if you were flying back to the US at 12:10 am on Monday, and your only option was to get tested Sunday and Sunday was Christmas day, it might be a problem.

  5. #51352
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    If you walk thru Lleras these days, and I walk thru there every couple of days, it's at about 50% in terms of eating and drinking establishments that are in business. Yet, if you go up 2-3 blocks above Lleras, to the Provenza area, it's in full swing with literally no vacant, abandoned, and / or boarded up places.

    I ate in Provenza Friday night, and after dinner took a stroll around the area and it was hopping. Totally different than the Lleras area, which I walked thru a few evenings ago.

    It's almost like a war took place around the Lleras area, with vacant and deserted places along the park being shuttered and abandoned.

    I also believe that there are more girls now working LLeras than before the Pandemic. I think this because of the economy, the influx of Venezuelans, and the smarter Centro girls trying to hit pay-dirt.

    I also noticed over the last few weeks a few girls working on Calle 10 as well, from about Parque Poblado up to the Provenza area..
    By questionable providers are you referring to the couple of trannies working Calle 10? Saw them last year. Didn't spend much time in Provenza, just dinner one night, but Lleras was as you described. Lots of empty places, minimal crowds.

    As for working girls in the area, the low hanging fruit are in the park. You'll find better ones in Gusto, at much higher prices. The best ones I've seen are in the surrounding streets, in the other clubs or restaurants.

  6. #51351
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    I have never met so many fast thieving putas anywhere in the world like in Medellin. It's obvious they intended and planned to steal from the start.

    To blame mongers for having their valuables stolen by putas is just a losers' argument.
    The problem is being naive as to think hookers do not or should not steal. That is all in the job description. They get it with their lips, hips, and fingertips. How is this a newsflash for you when it has been going on for centuries? Most hookers could steal stink out of shit if they wanted to, especially from a dude with a hard dick that is not thinking right.

  7. #51350
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Steve,

    I have never met so many fast thieving putas anywhere in the world like in Medellin. It's obvious they intended and planned to steal from the start.

    To blame mongers for having their valuables stolen by putas is just a losers' argument.

    The bros should take pictures of the putas and their IDs before letting them into the room as a security measure. It should help deter crimes unless the putas steal their phones and disappear fast.

    This pretty half Venezuelan spinner in CTG was a fully documented sweetheart. She was mice, sweet, fun and sexy, open to anything. I gave her tel to a few bros and they were able to make contact. Be nice and have sexy fun with her.
    To refuse to acknowledge your actions enabled the theft is a losers argument.

    We're all adults, responsible for our own actions. If you left your new BMW running while you went into a convenience store in a low income neighborhood, when you found someone had stolen it, would you be blaming the thief, or would you accept that your failure to protect your valuables, contributed to your loss?

    Most of the girls live way below the poverty line. For many of them, hot water is a luxury. For some of them, running water and windows with glass, rather than a sheet of plastic, are luxuries. Quite a few of them sleep on a piece of foam on the floor, which is either simple cement, or even dirt. You don't know them, they aren't your friend. They probably don't even like you. If you leave valuables, worth 4 months of their income, laying around unattended, why wouldn't you expect something to be taken?

    There are certainly women in Medellin who I wouldn't trust alone with my valuables. The simple solution is, I don't leave them alone with my valuables. They are there to fuck me. They aren't there to establish a long term business partnership based on mutual trust. Except for what I'm paying them, the money I have isn't something I need to make available to them. My wallet, credit cards and electronics aren't necessary for the fucking process. All of that stuff should be out of sight and inaccessible.

    If you leave it all out in the open, accept responsibility for failing to protect your stuff.

  8. #51349
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I know there has been a lot of contention in this thread but there are a few nuggets of wisdom to be had I think.

    1. Research matters. A lot. You have to spend the time to figure out what format is going to meet your needs and dig in deeply once you figure it out. At first I thought London was lame. Until I figured out the escort agencies are where it's at. Then I figured out the best three. Then I figured out how to pick the best girls there. And now London is awesome.

    I used to think the US was lame. Then through a lot of research I found P411 which was pretty good. Then I found Seeking which was a whole new world. Then I built a process on Seekkng for finding the gems. And yes it. Takes an hour a day to keep weeding and feeding but the bounty is so worth it.

    2. Venue matters. A lot. Your research leads you to the correct venue FOR YOU and that is the key. Once you find the venue that offers what you want you can then invest the time to get the girl you want. I happen to be a complete newbie to Medellin. But I've done the research. I've made friends on ISG who know it deeply. For my style I will use Facebook girls, as my ISG friend is forever sending me videos of fucking Facebook hotties (three at a time) bareback and yes they are hotties and yes it's him and videos don't lie like pics can. But the point is not FB girls are the best. Simply the best FOR ME after researching.
    That should be required reading. I would add in location. Once you know what venue and type of girls you prefer, find the country which has what you want.

    As a younger man, 30-40, I would have loved Hong Kong club, or FKK clubs, but these days that's not appealing to me. Once you disappear down the Facebook rabbit hole, it's a whole new world.

  9. #51348
    Quote Originally Posted by Oterri  [View Original Post]
    I have checked few fb links of girls posted in this thread and contacted / befriended them. However, it is quite painful and takes long time to contact their friends and so on.

    Does anyone here have any contacts that you can kindly PM me. I prefer English speaking girls because my Spanish is very basic and I don't enjoy sex without any connection at all..
    The solution is to spend some effort learning better Spanish. If you limit yourself to English speaking girls in Colombia you've already eliminated 95% of them.

  10. #51347

    Provenza

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    If you walk thru Lleras these days, and I walk thru there every couple of days, it's at about 50% in terms of eating and drinking establishments that are in business. Yet, if you go up 2-3 blocks above Lleras, to the Provenza area, it's in full swing with literally no vacant, abandoned, and / or boarded up places.

    I ate in Provenza Friday night, and after dinner took a stroll around the area and it was hopping. Totally different than the Lleras area, which I walked thru a few evenings ago.

    It's almost like a war took place around the Lleras area, with vacant and deserted places along the park being shuttered and abandoned.

    I also believe that there are more girls now working LLeras than before the Pandemic. I think this because of the economy, the influx of Venezuelans, and the smarter Centro girls trying to hit pay-dirt.

    I also noticed over the last few weeks a few girls working on Calle 10 as well, from about Parque Poblado up to the Provenza area.

    And about six months ago, there were some very questionable providers working Calle 10, but haven't noticed them lately.
    Are you saying lots of working girls now hang out in Provenza or just that the businesses are in full swing?

  11. #51346
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Steve,

    I have never met so many fast thieving putas anywhere in the world like in Medellin. It's obvious they intended and planned to steal from the start.

    To blame mongers for having their valuables stolen by putas is just a losers' argument.
    If you already know that you are a mark in Medellin, than you play at your own risk. Self awareness is very important. I never blame the girls because I think many people would do the same or worse if they were in their shoes. I'm actually surprised more dudes don't report getting got given the economy and poverty in Medellin.

  12. #51345
    Quote Originally Posted by FunLuvr  [View Original Post]
    I arrived Thursday night at about 11 pm. Immigration was checking everyone's vaccine card and the Check-mig document. That is the first time they have checked Check-mig on arrival. I had spent 161 days in Colombia this year. I am staying 11 days this trip. The immigration agent questioned me about the number of days I had remaining. He said he could only authorize 14 days. That was more than I needed, but I thought it was strange. That would take me to December 30. He wrote 14 on the visa stamp.

    While standing in line at immigration, a couple behind me asked about entry requirements. I told them all the requirements that are on the Copa website. I also discussed the entry requirements to the US when they return. I commented that it was a stupid Biden rule to get the Covid test one day before departure, and repeated what the CEO of Southwest Airlines said about masks on airplanes. There was a young woman in front of me who turned around and said "You all can stop that conversation". I suppose she is the typical liberal - suppress all speech they don't agree with.

    Because it was late, I could not check in at the airbnb I rented. I stayed one night at Hotel Sauces del Estadio in Laureles. Costs was 132,000 COP for one "king-sized" room with free breakfast. The room was pretty small with a queen-sized bed, even though their web site says a king-sized bed. The hotel is chica friendly for one guest if you reserve for two, no extra charge. I didn't ask if a different guest was allowed. The hotel staff were very friendly, both at night and the next morning.
    One-guest-free policy means that each additional guest that you bring will cost you at a rate that they don't advertise until you check-in the first time. They do not disclose these policies and charges on booking sites. So its a scam.

    At one hotel, they would not let the girl come to my room until I come down to reception in person and sign some paper.

  13. #51344

    Arrival at MDE

    I arrived Thursday night at about 11 pm. Immigration was checking everyone's vaccine card and the Check-mig document. That is the first time they have checked Check-mig on arrival. I had spent 161 days in Colombia this year. I am staying 11 days this trip. The immigration agent questioned me about the number of days I had remaining. He said he could only authorize 14 days. That was more than I needed, but I thought it was strange. That would take me to December 30. He wrote 14 on the visa stamp.

    While standing in line at immigration, a couple behind me asked about entry requirements. I told them all the requirements that are on the Copa website. I also discussed the entry requirements to the US when they return. I commented that it was a stupid Biden rule to get the Covid test one day before departure, and repeated what the CEO of Southwest Airlines said about masks on airplanes. There was a young woman in front of me who turned around and said "You all can stop that conversation". I suppose she is the typical liberal - suppress all speech they don't agree with.

    Because it was late, I could not check in at the airbnb I rented. I stayed one night at Hotel Sauces del Estadio in Laureles. Costs was 132,000 COP for one "king-sized" room with free breakfast. The room was pretty small with a queen-sized bed, even though their web site says a king-sized bed. The hotel is chica friendly for one guest if you reserve for two, no extra charge. I didn't ask if a different guest was allowed. The hotel staff were very friendly, both at night and the next morning.

  14. #51343
    Quote Originally Posted by Shemp  [View Original Post]
    I will say, these chicas don't take a lot of work to date, or do they take a lot of time to find. I visit a couple times a year & have dated 3 of the girls that mojo featured in his pics. I found them on Facebook & made a quik ez date, $50-$60 usd was the price, for 2 hrs in my hotel room with DFK, BBBJ etc etc. As 4 Tijuana, in Hong Kong, its $100 usd for 1/2 HR. , + $19 room fee, + $9 to buy a drink to try to chat her up, + tip for waiter, robe guy, room cleaner. About $130 for actually 25 minutes, as the guy is knocking on the door to get you out, & BBBJ etc is very, very difficult to find. You make the call!
    I was a bit skeptical as the girls mojo posted look like the Colombian IG models that I follow. I sure didn't see talent like that on the streets. Good to know the photos mojo posted are legit. Some fake mongers would steal photos off blogs and try to pass it off as real personal experience jajaja.

  15. #51342
    Quote Originally Posted by Oterri  [View Original Post]
    I have checked few fb links of girls posted in this thread and contacted / befriended them. However, it is quite painful and takes long time to contact their friends and so on.

    Does anyone here have any contacts that you can kindly PM me. I prefer English speaking girls because my Spanish is very basic and I don't enjoy sex without any connection at all..
    Then Colombia is the wrong destination for you my friend. Based on my experience, only one girl I found off tinder was fluent in English and she spent years using duo lingo. I get what you're saying, it's a hassle having to use google translate to communicate and after the session I'm too lazy to pull my phone out to have a conversation with the girl over google translate. As stated, that is the key advantage I found in HK club at Tijuana over Colombia. Communication is a must if GFE is what you like.

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