Medellin Reports

[JjBee62]

So, I had to delay my upcoming trip. I had booked 8 nights at Hotel M (La Mansion). I paid a deposit of 2 nights per the website and I expected to lose this as I had to cancel within 72 hours. But they have now sent me a message saying that I have to pay for the full 8 nights.

I feel like I'm being scammed here. There are not terms on their website other than you lose the deposit if you cancel within 72 hours of your visit.

Am I missing something? It's a shame if a monger-oriented establishment is scamming.

I wouldn't expect that they are scamming you. I would check the refund conditions. It seems likely they require payment in full if you cancel within 72 hours of your stay.

I had the same issue with an apartment I rented last trip. I needed to cancel 2 hotel rooms and 1 apartment. The first hotel room cancellation was no problem. The second one Booking said I would have to pay 100%, but I hadn't paid anything and heard nothing from the hotel. The apartment I had paid half up front and I expected I would lose that. However, on the day when I was supposed to check in, they messaged me to arrange pickup of the keys and payment of the remainder.

That was the deciding factor to go ahead with my trip, starting 3 days late. Had a girl I know and trust take the money over and get the keys and I got my original flight moved to a new day.

My suggestion, instead of jumping on the scam bus, is to talk to them and explain your situation. They might let it slide if they believe you're going to stay in the future. Worst case, you're in the same situation you're in right now.

If they require payment in full, when cancelling within 72 hours, there's a reason for it. They are usually booked full at least 2 weeks out. Empty rooms generate no revenue. Trying to find someone, when most of their customers know to book weeks in advance is difficult. For that type of establishment cancellation rate is pretty high.

The reason I say it's pretty high is because they attract 2 types of customers, the repeat customers and the new mongers, or new to Colombia mongers. And the new guys often get cold feet, or get talked out of the trip.

What Fun Luvr said about being double charged with taxes, that would be a scam. Unless you stay beyond 90 days, there's no tax for foreigners. That's one reason why they need to keep a copy of your passport, so they don't have to pay the tax.

[Surfer500]

YMMV but Centro was a bust this October overall. Some of my observations.

1. It feels more dangerous this time around, especially after dark. More weirdos who I feel are are trying to approach me, especially around the less lit areas. Probably because more foreigners attract more thieves.

2. Way more foreigners around. Some places feel a bar in the Philippines with middle age to older white gentlemen hanging around talking to each other. Didn't see this kind of concentration before.

3. Girls are rejecting offers that are about 50 k less than what I give for FB girls to go to my apartment (yes I know that's not the norm for Centro girls). At that point it's completely not worth it. At a 50 k difference between Centro girls and FB girls, the risk / reward strongly favors FB.

4. Two Vennie girls who I originally met in Bogota Santa Fe in 2019 are now working in Centro Medellin. I re-sessioned with one of them. She tells me the word is already out that there's an influx of foreigners in Medellin and the pay there is superior to Santa Fe. And added to the better climate in Medellin, there are strong incentives to move their services here.

Unfortunately what you have observed is what I and others have seen happening in Centro over the past several months. It's disheartening for sure, especially for the guys who have been coming to Medellin for years and seeing the changes taking place.

However as far as SW's in Centro rejecting offers that are less than 50 K lower than FB girls, well I'm grappling with that one.

I have no experience with Fayboo girls, but have read the going range is in the neighborhood of 150 K-200 K maybe more. So I'm going to have to assume that your asking the girls who have rejected your offers to spend a couple of hours with you, versus no more than an hour?

Also, even with the onslaught of the foreigners, the locals which are the primary client base for the SW's in Centro, aren't going to be paying what the foreigners are paying.

What I have noticed, and have posted about before, is what I call the SW's who I call "gringo hunters", those who specifically look for gringos / foreigners who will pay more. I suspect these have to be some of the girls you have encountered.

Sounds like your a Fayboo guy, which many guys here are, and I can see where your coming from not wanting to mess with the Centro SW's over 50 K.

[DzikaBomba]

Today I stayed about 3 hours in centro. I have done a few rounds and drank some beer.

It was raining in between and I could find only one who was meeting my criteria and Budget.

An 18 year Old Venezuelan (I checked the ID) with a pink dress through which you could See Her underwear.

She agreed to 30 k for BBBJ + CFS. And 6 k for the room.

Nothing special. She was cold.

After the BBBJ I fucked her doggy and then mish.

When I Was still naked She Just went haha.

Nothing special at all, only her Teenie body.

Then I went because the rain Was getting stronger.

Tomorrow I will come one Time in the morning and then again in the afternoon.

I think its better than staying there for a few hours.

[Elvis 2008]

The Global Entry rules condition membership on maintaining full compliance with immigration and customs regulations.

Totally agree.

Other things that can get your Global Entry revoked are flouting tobacco and liquor quantity rules or providing inconsistent information to customs and border patrol personnel.

I agree that there are those two for sure. They even mentioned the alcohol issue when I got my Global Entry. It was almost like "Yeah, like do not bring in any drugs, but if you bring in excess liquor and do not pay the customs duty, your global entry is done. " I kind of laughed at which one Customs took more seriously.

This includes counterfeit goods like watches and handbags that some guys like to bring providers.

Knowledge, I am not so sure about this one. I have walked across the border and bought counterfeit handbags and declared them when I re-entered the country. The amount I bought was under the dollar limit for goods and there was no issue. Quite frankly, this was a Mexican border town and if Americans could not bring back these fake handbags into the USA, they would not be selling them, and the vendors were selling them in droves.

As to why Mr. E's GE was revoked, Mr. E has admitted to saying crazy things to customs like "I went to Colombia for the women", and he also admitted that he is completely oblivious to the idea that governments are cracking down on prostitution. He said they are just going after marketing. SMH.

Governments have said in the newspapers and elsewhere that they are going after trafficking and to do that, they are going after guys who monger. I have heard time and again guys say, "I am not supporting trafficking" or "They are going after pimps who really traffic and not guys like me" even when American LE has arrested thousands if not millions of mongers in the last few years. When I tell mongers what LE and the government have said, and LE is after them, these guys attack me.

The denial on this issue is just amazing. These guys just invent excuses why LE is not going after them. Mr. E has even said, "I am not doing anything wrong. ", and I want to scream, "Yes, Mr. E if you are telling customs you travel to other countries to fuck hos, even if it is legal in that country, you are doing something wrong in our government's eyes."

Global Entry is part of the trusted traveler program, and that means that the government is going to treat you differently because it trusts you. So even if you are going abroad to do a mountain of white stuff or sleep with a hundred women, you respond with something benign. Why were you in Colombia? "There was a project I was looking to invest in" or "I went to see my GF". If you are going to use the GF line, you should have one girl that you know all about that you can use as your GF.

You are actually protecting the customs agents who let you in because if something bad happens to you in a foreign country, the shit could come back politically on the agent who did not detain you or customs as a whole. You want to represent yourself as a good ambassador for the USA. If you say or imply that you are going abroad to fuck a bunch of hos, I would expect Customs to revoke Global Entry because you are practically admitting you are a bad ambassador.

But I do not think they have to give you any reason to kick you out. If it is the Trusted Traveler program, they can just say, "We do not trust you anymore" and be done with it IMO. Why in the world would you want to give them a reason not to trust you? Like with all LE, you say as little as possible and be as PC as possible.

[Knowledge]

Centro girls cost only 50 K less than facebook girls? I don't dispute it might have been your experience but it's misleading to suggest that this is the prevailing trend. 30 K plus the room of your choice is all anyone needs to pay in Centro. This is straight from the mouth of a Centro rat.

YMMV but Centro was a bust this October overall. Some of my observations.

1. It feels more dangerous this time around, especially after dark. More weirdos who I feel are are trying to approach me, especially around the less lit areas. Probably because more foreigners attract more thieves.

2. Way more foreigners around. Some places feel a bar in the Philippines with middle age to older white gentlemen hanging around talking to each other. Didn't see this kind of concentration before.

3. Girls are rejecting offers that are about 50 k less than what I give for FB girls to go to my apartment (yes I know that's not the norm for Centro girls). At that point it's completely not worth it. At a 50 k difference between Centro girls and FB girls, the risk / reward strongly favors FB.

4. Two Vennie girls who I originally met in Bogota Santa Fe in 2019 are now working in Centro Medellin. I re-sessioned with one of them. She tells me the word is already out that there's an influx of foreigners in Medellin and the pay there is superior to Santa Fe. And added to the better climate in Medellin, there are strong incentives to move their services here.

[FlagRunner77]

They have been scammers for a long time. The one and only time I stayed there, they charged tax in addition to the price on their website. On the website, it stated the price including all taxes. It was only two nights, not worth hassling with them. I had forgotten it stated taxes were included in the price. That was several years ago.

Thanks, I'm holding my ground anyway, but good to know I'm not over-reacting. It's a shame because I'm planning a January trip instead but now I'll be going elsewhere. And I won't be recommending to others.

[Surfer500]

i've mentioned this before, but More than half the time I get a cerveza with a girl before hand to build up rapport and get GFE, DFK is almost gauranteed when you do this as you're not another stranger having sex after a 20 second convo.

Lately, I've been getting a beer and going for girls that are -already drinking- . Like buzzed. Not sure why this wasnt my M. O. Before.

Peak in the bars behind veracruz where theyre sitting, when they have beers in their hand, have a shot or two with them of aguardiente, it's like water if you're a male over 180 lbs but for girls it hits hard IME.

SW + drinks= money. the barrio girls love to party.

Talking about being buzzed, you have a whole other subset of girls in Centro that don't drink beer to get a buzz, but instead smoke weed to get high, and I've been with a few of the high ones, and they really get into the sex and literally anything goes because of their altered state.

Lot's of the SW's in Centro love getting high, pounded, and than paid. It's a win win for some of them, especially the ones that are nymphos.

[Fun Luvr]

So, I had to delay my upcoming trip. I had booked 8 nights at Hotel M (La Mansion). I paid a deposit of 2 nights per the website and I expected to lose this as I had to cancel within 72 hours. But they have now sent me a message saying that I have to pay for the full 8 nights.

I feel like I'm being scammed here. There are not terms on their website other than you lose the deposit if you cancel within 72 hours of your visit.

Am I missing something? It's a shame if a monger-oriented establishment is scamming.

They have been scammers for a long time. The one and only time I stayed there, they charged tax in addition to the price on their website. On the website, it stated the price including all taxes. It was only two nights, not worth hassling with them. I had forgotten it stated taxes were included in the price. That was several years ago.

[FlagRunner77]

So, I had to delay my upcoming trip. I had booked 8 nights at Hotel M (La Mansion). I paid a deposit of 2 nights per the website and I expected to lose this as I had to cancel within 72 hours. But they have now sent me a message saying that I have to pay for the full 8 nights.

I feel like I'm being scammed here. There are not terms on their website other than you lose the deposit if you cancel within 72 hours of your visit.

Am I missing something? It's a shame if a monger-oriented establishment is scamming.

[JohnnyWalker55]

Surf, you're right, I guess it's a risk / reward kind of thing. I was moreso saying it's a deal for him as it was his first centro fuck, not sure if he speaks spanish or not. He couldve easily been quoted double that. LOL!

-anyways,

Been back on the centro grind every night this week, man's got to hunt.

i've mentioned this before, but More than half the time I get a cerveza with a girl before hand to build up rapport and get GFE, DFK is almost gauranteed when you do this as you're not another stranger having sex after a 20 second convo.

Lately, I've been getting a beer and going for girls that are -already drinking- . Like buzzed. Not sure why this wasnt my M. O. Before.

Peak in the bars behind veracruz where theyre sitting, when they have beers in their hand, have a shot or two with them of aguardiente, it's like water if you're a male over 180 lbs but for girls it hits hard IME.

Just this afternoon I was posted up by the barbershop, a tan vennie with red streaks in her hair, valeria, with a kille rbod and cute face walks by with a beer. Bingo. We make eyecontant, motion her over, I smell the beer on her breath and she's very talkative.

30 k + 6 k pieza, we each get another beer, she chugs half of hers right away lol.
I tell her to put on reggaeton, she starts grinding, turns around and DFK, I get undressed and she takes off her shirt, She looks at the dick and I go "te gusta? she says yea. i go Chupalo asi". She gets on her knees and goes to town. From their rubber goes on, mish and doggy, then mish, she's acting like a girlfriend trying to get preggo with her legs wrapped around.

So yea.

SW + drinks= money. the barrio girls love to party.

And for the simps, if they're more buzzed than you / drunk, it's not freaking non-consensual. They're getting paid lmao. I'm sure many to cast judgement have fucked girls high as fuck on glue or coked out at the club and didn't even notice.

[Tasss]

YMMV but Centro was a bust this October overall. Some of my observations.

1. It feels more dangerous this time around, especially after dark. More weirdos who I feel are are trying to approach me, especially around the less lit areas. Probably because more foreigners attract more thieves.

2. Way more foreigners around. Some places feel a bar in the Philippines with middle age to older white gentlemen hanging around talking to each other. Didn't see this kind of concentration before.

3. Girls are rejecting offers that are about 50 k less than what I give for FB girls to go to my apartment (yes I know that's not the norm for Centro girls). At that point it's completely not worth it. At a 50 k difference between Centro girls and FB girls, the risk / reward strongly favors FB.

4. Two Vennie girls who I originally met in Bogota Santa Fe in 2019 are now working in Centro Medellin. I re-sessioned with one of them. She tells me the word is already out that there's an influx of foreigners in Medellin and the pay there is superior to Santa Fe. And added to the better climate in Medellin, there are strong incentives to move their services here.

[Surfer500]

The Global Entry rules condition membership on maintaining full compliance with immigration and customs regulations. This includes counterfeit goods like watches and handbags that some guys like to bring providers. Other things that can get your Global Entry revoked are flouting tobacco and liquor quantity rules or providing inconsistent information to customs and border patrol personnel.

Perhaps what some members may not be aware of is that you have to be basically squeaky clean to get Global Entry. I have had it for several years, however I initially never applied for it because I had SENTRI, and those with SENTRI are automatically given Global Entry as qualifying for it is more stringent than Global Entry.

Besides the CBP doing a complete backround check on you and being interviewed in person, I had to bring in copies of my tax returns and other documents which they looked over. When it was time to renew my SENTRI after ten years in June of this year, instead of applying for SENTRI which is used exclusively for crossing from Mexico into the USA where you don't have to wait in a long line, they changed the rules allowing Global Entry holders as well to cross rapidly. So I thought I was going to have to go in for an interview again to get Global Entry and I filled out the online application, and within a few days I got an E mail saying I was approved and to pay a fee for the Global Entry Card that was mailed to me with validity until 2026. When I first obtained SENTRI I was given what's known as a Trusted Travellers Number which has remained the same and is entered into the airlines systems when issuing boarding passes.

Makes a huge difference having it, especially at airports like FLL, along with not having to wait in long lines and includes TSA pre-check as well.

I know several members on this board have it, and I will never do anything to ever jeopardize it which you are warning others about.

[Surfer500]

Another centro rat has been born. And my friend, you got a deal with BBFS for 20 k extra lmao.E

Actually, this newly spawned Centro Rat didn't get the deal you think he got at 70 K.

I know a guy who played Centro for two months recently who is not a board member here, who only did the girls raw in Centro.

And he told me he was paying them as low as 50 K and upwards not including the room for BBFS.

It's very prevalent there contrary to what some may think, as typically for the girls that do it, it's in essence a double pay day for them.

I advise against doing them raw in Centro, but some guys do, and picking up an STD is not worth it.

And I know exactly who the little dyed red hair spinner the other poster was referring to, she's out there all the time, she's approached me, but I have stayed clear of her, and she probably does more guys raw then covered.

The guy I know who did her uncovered more than once said she was really into it, and he cream pied her as well.

Almost like a wet dream coming to fruition for this newly spawned Centro Rat! LOL.

[Knowledge]

The Global Entry rules condition membership on maintaining full compliance with immigration and customs regulations. This includes counterfeit goods like watches and handbags that some guys like to bring providers. Other things that can get your Global Entry revoked are flouting tobacco and liquor quantity rules or providing inconsistent information to customs and border patrol personnel.

It's not fair not knowing why you've been denied Global Entry. At least you have TSA pre-check which can be great at times but isn't as prevalent anymore as not enough people have it, hence they don't man all the TSA security entrances at some airports like in Florida, but give you a card that allows you to not to have to take off your shoes.

Probably the worst airport for international arrivals is Fort Lauderdale. No signage when entering for Global Entry. Everybody gets stuck in the same line. I just go around the line walk in, say I have Global Entry and typically am allowed to enter but was recently asked for my Global Entry card which I don't carry with me as my "known traveller" number has always been used for airline travel. FLL is the worst airport to be flying into from Colombia and I'm sure there are other board members you can attest to this.

As far as getting your Global Entry status back, your only option is to retain an attorney and spend big bucks as anything you write will go into the round file, aka trash can. And God forbid if you were put on the Governments no fly list. There are people who have been put on that list in error and have spent a lot of time and money trying to get it undone.

[Surfer500]

I've driven from Bogota to Medellin and back to Bogota by a different route. Parts of the route are scenic.

Is it worth it? You're talking about an 8-10 hour drive, not including stops. Actually probably a minimum of 10 hours because I was driving like a wild man at times.

If someone is paying you $30 per hour or more to ride the bus, it might be worth it, although I would hold out for more.

Just a heads up.

Roundtrip flights from MDE to CTG round trip on Viva Air, a 45 minute flight, as low as $ 75 roundtrip midweek.

Also cheap flights all over the Country from MDE and the local airport for under $ 100.

When I go to CTG from MDE I leave Pobaldo at 11:30 AM, have a flight at 2:00 PM as an example, and am in my Hotel checking in by no later than 3;30 PM. Four hours elapsed time and yes more expensive than the bus.

And I have taken all day bus trips within the Country, and invariably there are delays due to construction, weather, etc.

So very simply put, and if you can afford it, don't mess with buses unless a short trip to Santa Fe or the Penol.

Anything longer, and you will regret it, unless you like driving which I personally don't.