Medellin Reports

[Knowledge]

Common sense is crucial. It's all a question of perspective. I don't discount the validity of your casa waiting room acquaintance from Bello. From my perspective, Colombia quite a long way to go until it could be like the old days I remember when I first came here for business in the 90's. We were not allowed out of our hotel or office without armed security. As recently as 10 years ago you could not enter the Oviedo Mall parking lot unless you submitted your car to inspection of its undercarriage by a security guard holding a mirror attached to an extension pole. I had not thought about that in many years until a few weeks ago when I saw a guard at the entrance to the Alpujarra underground parking doing it. It used to be standard procedure here. I wonder what my gut tells me is true and most of these unfortunate victims don't have much experience in the country, or less than they think they do.

Common sense bro. Of course our lives is worth more than a few hundreds. I'm not in danger LOL. Mde itself is. Can't allow fear to run me off like that, and just like in everything it's risk management. I met a fella the other at a casa and he lives in bello w a local wife. Doesn't date on app or mess w the scene that targets us and he's fine. We can see many on YT living and enjoying the city, incl women expats. So while the dangers exists, which is in every country mde just require a new level of awareness since it's changing. And no I wouldn't even come if I knew things would worsen. Medellin is on a transition of increase danger, maybe going back to its old ways unless things change. And we don't want to be the Guinea pig for the experiment till others stop coming LOL. So I will get the fuck out, just on my own terms. The slight hood and ganster idgaf side of me hate the idea of being forced to do anything. If I'm in the street and everyone starts running I'm usually calm and walk. Call me a rebel LOL. I'm just glad that many tourists are now canceling their plans to come here and hopefully soon a huge reduction of tourism can starve these mfrs.

[TexasPistol]

This is just silly. The casas are the *worst of Medellin, the most antiseptic, lowest level chicas. Why not learn some Spanish, learn to dance, meet some ladies and pay them to leave? There is literally no danger if you follow two rules. 1. Watch your drink. 2. (most important rule) Have your portero or hotel lobby hold, physically, their cedula (national ID) while you fuck and the portero is instructed to only give it back to her *if you are there in person to give the green light all is OK.

If you are really looking for love and not just to get laid (which places you not on this forum), Colombian women are some of the most feminine traditional loving women in the world. #2 next to Brazil.

While you're going out to dance with the chicas, you could suddenly end up looking down the barrel of a gun and some psycho is demanding your phone and wallet. If you are taking an Uber from one casa to the next, not so much. And a lot of casa girls, at least if they are in the 200 K range, are really hot and you can see them with almost no clothes on before you pay. If you need that club experience, that's great however you are taking significant a risk.

Also I stayed in an airbnb without a 24/7 doorman. I am going to guess that a place with that type of security is quite a bit more expensive. Also, I don't really feel like constantly remembering not to drink anything unless I am 100% sure that it wasn't tampered with. Personally, I think it would a little bit kill the mood.

And about marrying a girl in a foreign country, I think it can be a good if you have some sort of good job in that foreign country and you are going to stay there with her. However if you are bringing her back to the US, and she is "out of your league" the type of girl who would not date you if she was American, then I think that your odds are not better than if you just stayed in the US and dated American women. She will get her green card, learn English, get a job and dump you.

[Magma5108]

If you are looking for an average looking woman in the USA, without student debt, without mental illness, without a kid, and who is not obese, you are down to 1% of all American women, and this is not even including if they have jobs. And even if you meet a top 1% woman, demand for her is going to be so through the roof, she will probably turn you down if you do ask her out. What is top 1% in the USA is a dime a dozen in Colombia.

Average income in USA is $5000 a month or so. In Colombia, it is $500. If you are making $100,000 per year in the USA, you are doing okay. In Colombia, you are the equivalent of a millionaire.

That is good advice if you are hanging around the hooker / stripper type. They will rob you blind. When you move up the socioeconomic chain, the women I have met have been trustworthy, great in bed, super smart, and immensely talented. Guys were so used to paying that I would have to tell them not to and tell them "Do not pay them and see if they really like you", and they were amazed when so often the women did not ask for money. Time and again, guys are amazed at how many women liked them for them..

I'm traveling to Medellin for the first time and the type of woman I'm looking for seems to match what you're describing. Educated and smart, talented. How do I go about meeting them? I'm a mid-30's male and I'll be staying in El Poblado.

[MaddTraveler]

Now that I frequent Mexico and to some extent South America, I have not slept with any woman from the USA in the last 10 years. When I think of US American women, to me it feels like sleeping with a dude, unnatural, weird and offensive. Why would any str8 man want to sleep with women from a culture that produces insolent disrespectful psychos.

I need to do some research to find out if too much pussy affects the brain LOL. Because I didn't have a great answer for that silly comment but you did. Thanks bro.

As if if we need normal women USA could offer that lmao. Traveling isn't only for P4P. In fact the opposite. Most people who started to uncover that we were in the Matrix were simply seeking a better life, or stumbled upon it once overseas on vaca and realizing women are better nearly everywhere else. There are tons and tons of dudes young and old living overseas, for better lifestyles in general incl better food, cheaper rent, better women, the hookers are just bonuses. If you want normal it's even a better reason to travel. Why go back? LOL. That comment made zero sense.

[HumpyDumpty11]

The barriers were what I considered "mongering interference. " They didn't make the area any safer, just pushed all the criminal element outside of the perimeter of the barricades, along with the majority of the working girls (the ones that aren't fucking 40 years old atleast) as well. Which meant that instead of having a big open plaza to look for chicas, you were crammed up in between the church and hotel Botero Real in that pedestrian walkway along with the chicas and the ladrones all crammed in there with hardly any space to walk. Making it easier for the ladrones to do a snatch and run.

They removed the barriers cause Cartagena needed to borrow them! LMAO. Cartagena's new mayor is "getting rid of prostitution" in the center by placing barriers. LOL. We'll see how long that last.

[MaddTraveler]

You are going to risk the danger of Medellin for 3 weeks because of a lease? Is the lease really worth the risk or is the risk really not as important as the lease? If the reposted news reports die down will you come back? That's enough questions. Now I will make a statement you can verify on your own if you are interested. The volume of crime in Bogota, including drugging robberies, is vastly greater than it is in Medellin. Be safe.

Common sense bro. Of course our lives is worth more than a few hundreds. I'm not in danger LOL. Mde itself is. Can't allow fear to run me off like that, and just like in everything it's risk management. I met a fella the other at a casa and he lives in bello w a local wife. Doesn't date on app or mess w the scene that targets us and he's fine. We can see many on YT living and enjoying the city, incl women expats. So while the dangers exists, which is in every country mde just require a new level of awareness since it's changing. And no I wouldn't even come if I knew things would worsen. Medellin is on a transition of increase danger, maybe going back to its old ways unless things change. And we don't want to be the Guinea pig for the experiment till others stop coming LOL. So I will get the fuck out, just on my own terms. The slight hood and ganster idgaf side of me hate the idea of being forced to do anything. If I'm in the street and everyone starts running I'm usually calm and walk. Call me a rebel LOL. I'm just glad that many tourists are now canceling their plans to come here and hopefully soon a huge reduction of tourism can starve these mfrs.

[MaddTraveler]

Is this true? Can that happen? This is awful. I love me some knockers.

The girl who told me that lives in Belen near me, from VZ and likely the most trusted and honest wg I know in mde. She's a sweetie to the point we meet for lunch occasionally. I've heard of that before and some talk about it on YT. Almost like that zombie powder they blow in your face in Haiti to control you (check those stories if you haven't). When I first read about those practices in Colombia I even thought the devil's breath / scopalomina was the same as the one used in the old Carib folk tale. As the two countries did have migrations and connected roots. That shit is real obviously mofos are dropping from it.

[Knowledge]

Just to play devil's advocate, if the benzodiazepine or whatever other substance were so powerful that it could be topically effective, how would someone be able to administer it from their tits without feeling its effect?

100% correct. This is an urban myth, you have to ingest it or put it in your nose or a permeable membrane. Like other drugs. And it isn't that powerful that a spec of it would do it, this is an extract from a tree leaf mixed with benzos. I can't think of any drug really that can go through the skin by casual contact. That's not to say don't be careful with your drink otherwise. This is what happens is that guys get drunk and setup usually by another person offering chicas. If you aren't wary enough to be suspicious of who you are going with, then 100% of these cases are tossed into the drink while not looking.

[Putero1]

100% correct. This is an urban myth, you have to ingest it or put it in your nose or a permeable membrane. Like other drugs. And it isn't that powerful that a spec of it would do it, this is an extract from a tree leaf mixed with benzos. I can't think of any drug really that can go through the skin by casual contact. That's not to say don't be careful with your drink otherwise. This is what happens is that guys get drunk and setup usually by another person offering chicas. If you aren't wary enough to be suspicious of who you are going with, then 100% of these cases are tossed into the drink while not looking.

Most all of us have always kept a watchful eye on our drinks. But I'm quite skeptical of these second-hand reports of scopolamine tainted boobs and nips that have been popping up on this thread of late. To a skeptic like me, sounds like paranoid, social media, scaremongering (literally and figuratively) of the most unhinged sort.

[Nil Admirari]

...One of my centro gal told me few days ago that 3 gringos got killed via scopalomine like 2-3 weeks ago from centro rats and didn't even make the news. She said some girls don't even put it in your drinks, they would put the powder on their breast, neck, stomach area, and come close to you to hug you and baam you're scoped. ..So watch out for that shit. ... I can get hawkers anywhere heck prob North Korea will be safer at this point.

Most all of us have always kept a watchful eye on our drinks. But I'm quite skeptical of these second-hand reports of scopolamine tainted boobs and nips that have been popping up on this thread of late. To a skeptic like me, sounds like paranoid, social media, scaremongering (literally and figuratively) of the most unhinged sort.

That said, it would be welcome if someone with real medical, pharmacological, or forensic credentials could chime in on the subject. Or if anyone has a link to some authoritative literature with credible evidence that guys have really been scoped in this manner.

Absent that, on with the show! (Well, in the meantime maybe I will try to be alert to any sugar-frosted titties that may come my way.)

[Fun Luvr]

Is this true? Can that happen? This is awful. I love me some knockers.

I don't think there are any reported incidents of scopolamine being absorbed through the skin, or through the air. Think about that logically; if it could be done, why wouldn't it affect the woman. I do believe some women put it on their nipples. I think I was a victim of that one time. I got very light-headed and unbalanced, but still able to function mentally. If they ever resort to synthetic opioids, that will be a different story. Just touching it or breathing it can have serious effects, including death.

[Dcrist0527]

Is this true? Can that happen? This is awful. I love me some knockers.

True. And also not new. It's been reported in the past. I have no first hand knowledge to confirm or deny. When I've seen it reported in the past, it was allegedly with girls IN a club. That seems a bit odd, given that they aren't alone with the guy and the random nature of it. I'd also wonder if scopolamine left on the skin for any length of time has some effect on the girl.

Nonetheless, yes it's been alleged for years now. I also read that some girls distributed it through DFK. But that seems entirely implausible and unlikely, even if they were working with partners.

[Knowledge]

I've heard this for years. So far I have it filed along with the one about people distributing handbills on the street laced with a substance that will knock you out so they can rob you.

Is this true? Can that happen? This is awful. I love me some knockers.

[Putero1]

But go to the "erotic massage salons" aka brothels. Anything else is Russian roulette. Unless you enjoy that kind of danger, excitement, living on the edge situation, don't do it.

This is just silly. The casas are the *worst of Medellin, the most antiseptic, lowest level chicas. Why not learn some Spanish, learn to dance, meet some ladies and pay them to leave? There is literally no danger if you follow two rules. 1. Watch your drink. 2. (most important rule) Have your portero or hotel lobby hold, physically, their cedula (national ID) while you fuck and the portero is instructed to only give it back to her *if you are there in person to give the green light all is OK.

You will find in the US, for free, the same women that you will find in Colombia, for free. The plane trip to Colombia did not transform you into a male model or rock star. The pesos do that. Lots of pesos.

If you are really looking for love and not just to get laid (which places you not on this forum), Colombian women are some of the most feminine traditional loving women in the world. #2 next to Brazil.

[Putero1]

I believe that is an urban legend. That they can blow it in your face or just touch you with it on your skin. No. This drug whatever it is (probably scopelamine mixed with benzos), you have to ingest it and a decent amount too. For it to work. Listen to that video of the Indian guy, they forced the two of them to drink it at gun point, one of them only drank half and he was just chill while the other guy drank an entire glass full was also fine and even stayed conscious and both were alright in the end. There is simply no way this is happening because you motor-boated some titties.

That's the biggest problem. I'm real smart about watching my drinks. Never leave it unattended, but since they are putting it on their body now, there is no escaping it. It's scary stuff. I say F Colombia now.