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  1. #44479

    Learn from this post guys

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    Truer words than this expression have never been stated, which is "the only honest woman is a prostitute" and this is especially true here in Medellin.

    I had a discussion with my gringo buddy this morning about this topic and he is finally coming around to the truths about life and culture and women here in Medellin.

    So how to enjoy life here in Medellin? It is simple just follow these few basic fundamentals:

    1. Never ever take any woman serious, period and end of discussion.

    2. They are what they are, what their ingrained culture has placed into their DNA. You can not change them.

    3. A barrio xxxxx, and my gawd we all love them, can never ever go outside her social economic status, so don't try, it will never work.

    4. They all fuck around, they call them their gay amigos or primos or just a old school friend but they have and will return to their old fuck buddies, even the ladrones from the barrio because water seeks it's own level.

    5. Some are better at lying than others but they are all very good at it. This is the way they were raised, the drama, the excitement of getting drunk and smoking some dope then allowing the corner boys in their barrio to fuck them raw and hard, so don't never ever think that these are sweet and caring little darlings..
    There's just too many women here to get stuck up on one LOL.

    We love these hot women who sell their pussies and put our dick in their mouths but when I see these girls showing up with expensive items that they'd never buy or possibly afford it just makes me laugh.

    I am guilty of over paying girls at times yes. But never get it twisted I pay for my pleasure.

    Not to impress a prostitute. I respect the ones that accept who they are and willing to be open about it.

    But it's hilarious how many of them try to play the angel with sad story role.

  2. #44478
    Quote Originally Posted by MojoBandit  [View Original Post]
    The only difference between a sugar baby and regular prostitute in many cases is that it is less likely that she is fucking other guys for money.
    But not less likely she is fucking other guys.

  3. #44477
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    Truer words than this expression have never been stated, which is "the only honest woman is a prostitute" and this is especially true here in Medellin.

    I had a discussion with my gringo buddy this morning about this topic and he is finally coming around to the truths about life and culture and women here in Medellin.

    So how to enjoy life here in Medellin? It is simple just follow these few basic fundamentals:

    1. Never ever take any woman serious, period and end of discussion.

    2. They are what they are, what their ingrained culture has placed into their DNA. You can not change them.

    3. A barrio xxxxx, and my gawd we all love them, can never ever go outside her social economic status, so don't try, it will never work.

    4. They all fuck around, they call them their gay amigos or primos or just a old school friend but they have and will return to their old fuck buddies, even the ladrones from the barrio because water seeks it's own level..
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    My experience base after living in Medellin for three years straight up until the Pandemic is very different than yours, yet from my experience here, I can totally confirm what you are saying, and have never seen a post like yours so succinctly summing up reality here, albeit it won't matter to most.
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    All of the above is something everyone should keep in mind. I won't say it applies 100% to every chica, but it helps to keep your perspective. Once you lose that perspective, it can get expensive real quick.
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    I love you TM, but you are wrong about what a sugar daddy is. A sugar daddy is someone who is interested in something more than just sex for money. For the woman it is giving sex and emotion. For the men, it is giving money and having emotion.

    Are the women you hang out with just in it for money or do they hang out with you even when there is no chance of getting a dime? Then you are their sugar daddy.

    Do you push the women away from you when you are done having sex with them and have no interest in them outside of sex? If you are not doing that, then they are sugar babies.

    Yes, a working girl-john relationship is 100% about money for sex. A pure BF-GF is supposed to be 0% about money for sex. Why is there not room for something in the middle?

    As for your buddy, he is a fool looking to delude himself into using money to get a supposedly pure BF-GF relationship. He is paying for affection and the women are more than happy to take his money and to feed into that delusion.

    There is a saying in the alpha manosphere "A woman is not yours. She is your turn. " More than ever, men do not own women. That first part of her being yours, which is what your buddy is paying for, is his first mistake. You cannot control what the women do when you are not around, and you should just enjoy them when you are around them because that is when it is just your turn.

    The monthly allowance is an American invention to skirt prostitution laws. There is no purpose for it where prostitution is legal, and the monthly allowance is not IMO what defines a sugar relationship.

    As for the phrase, the only honest woman is a prostitute, I like it because I think people twist themselves into a pretzel lying to themselves trying to say there is no money for sex component to a relationship, but I think you are missing how you are putting yourself down with that phrase..
    Lots of good responses from my post (and some great private messages from your guys and your experiences reinforcing the bullet points), and as Elvis alludes to the very best poignant saying that you MUST NEVER EVER forget is "She is not YOUR girl rather it's just your TURN", and this applies in 100% of the situations (both pro and non-pro) be it if your seeking wifely material or a GF or a bit more serious relationship then the typical 45 minute fuck session.

    The Tall Man.

  4. #44476
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    I love you TM, but you are wrong about what a sugar daddy is. A sugar daddy is someone who is interested in something more than just sex for money. For the woman it is giving sex and emotion. For the men, it is giving money and having emotion.
    .
    The man may get emotionally involved but there is zero guarantee that the sugar baby is returning anything except putting on a show. I realize that every situation is different and different things come out of different relationships because not every one is the same, but the primary motive for the sugar baby is money.

    On the very first episode of Saturday Night Live on the first episode of Weekend Update so it would have been in 1975, Chevy Chase tells this one "The Post Office announced today that it is going to issue a stamp commemorating prostitution in the United States, it is a 10 cent stamp, but if you want to lick it it, its a quarter".

    The only difference between a sugar baby and regular prostitute in many cases is that it is less likely that she is fucking other guys for money.

  5. #44475
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    This may sound extreme to some paying for two Verizon phone lines
    Not to me, I have more lines and phones than you travelling with me. I even carry an extra monitor sometimes. Haha.

    But my reply is mainly to inform you that you don't need physical SIM for your new phone. It has eSim that you should be able to call to enable. I am not Verizon user so YMMV.

  6. #44474
    Quote Originally Posted by EducationFund  [View Original Post]
    Newbie here, preparing for my first trip.

    Does anyone have a packing list for what to pack and wear to fit in with locals during the day (jeans, Nikes, and t-shirts or polo shirts?) and for going out at night for dinner and dancing? Dressing to not attract the thieves or repel the ladies. .
    Jeans, T-shirts, polo shirts, maybe one nice button down shirt for dancing, comfortable walking shoes, a light rain jacket and that's about it. No jewelry. Leave your high dollar sunglasses at home.

    Leave your wallet locked up. I carry cash, and an ATM card, if I'm going to an ATM, plus my ID. For ID I carry my US Passport Card. It's recommended you carry a photocopy of your passport, including the entry stamp. Some guys take a photo and keep it on their phone.

    Carry your phone in a front pants pocket.

  7. #44473
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Dude all women want material gain from a man in some form or fashion unless they are old and butt ugly which I suspect are the non-pros you have been in bed with.
    Dude,

    Have you never heard of lesbians? And why wouldn't old and butt ugly women also want financial gain in some form or fashion? They may be less able to get it, but if, as you say all women want it, why would you exclude those women?

    I'm guessing you had a sheltered upbringing. Women, believe it or not, like sex too. I'd say, if you're doing it right, they enjoy sex more than we do. Of course, not many do it right, which is why female sex toys are such popular items. It's not hard to find a woman who just wants some good sex, although once you pass a certain age, the younger ones take a lot more work. The only reason I started mongering about 8 or 9 years ago was because I didn't want to put in the work, and didn't want to settle for the low hanging fruit.

    At least we finally got down to the core issue. You don't know me, have never met me (as far as I know), yet decided you want to fight me, at least online. Heck, I'll even post an old picture, to make it easier to spot me. Just add some grey, a few wrinkles and a few pounds.

    Being called "dude" brings back memories. Last time anyone called me that was 1990 in Pacific Beach. Ended up costing him $100 all because I got tired of the guy calling me dude.

  8. #44472

    Quantifying "decline conversion" on ATM

    I meant to do this a couple of weeks ago when this topic was being actively discussed, but better late than never. When I was in Medellin in Jan 2021, I took out cash several times from Servibanco ATM's. On two occasions, I kept details on the conversion rate I was declining so that I could calculate how much money I was saving by declining. On Jan 23, I saved $13 on a 900,000 peso ($259) ATM withdrawal by declining the 3,310 conversion rate. The better, wholesale rate of 3,477 I received (after reviewing my statement back in the US) represented a 5% improvement (or $13) over the rate I declined. On Jan 26, I saved $10 on a 1,000,000 peso ($284) ATM withdrawal by declining the 3,403 conversion rate. The better, wholesale rate of 3,525 I received represented a 3.6% improvement (or $10) over the rate I declined. I hope this quantification helps people realize that they need to decline the offered US $-COP conversion.

  9. #44471

    San Peters

    Quote Originally Posted by Queens35  [View Original Post]
    Right now, my plan is to be at San Peter also about the same time (April 18) for 4 or 5 days. We'll meet up.
    Hey,

    I am arriving tomorrow. I was reading recent reviews of San Peters and people were saying that SP was not allowing guests due to the covid capacity restrictions. It is my first time in Medellin, why does everyone like SP so much when there are so many options in Laurels?

    If anyone wants to grab a beer this week PM me. Always good to have a fellow gringo looking out for you.

  10. #44470

    Question for Centro Rats.

    Has anybody found a monthly rental in Veracruz near all the action? I used the search function but couldn't find anything. I just want a super cheap place to bring chicas instead of a sketchy place I'm not comfortable in.

  11. #44469

    Cleaning Lady Fetish

    Well my Tomboy finally showed up Saturday afternoon, and I have been evaluating her cleaning skills the past two days as I don't have a housekeeper, and this is a service I expect of the ones I allow in my place, and this one has taken like a duck to water and will get to return.

    She was wearing this see thru top while mopping the bathroom floor, and her titties were flopping around, and she was shaking her little ass, while pushing and pulling on the mop, and I imagined penetrating her in doggie and could not resist mounting her on the bed, shame on me!
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Cleaning Lady 1.jpg‎   Cleaning Lady 2.jpg‎  

  12. #44468
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    And to all you sugar daddy's out there, I have tried talking some sense for over 2 fricken years now and as recently as yesterday, with my good buddy from the States. He comes once every 5 months to Medellin and he has 2 sugar babies, one from Manrique the other from Santo Domingo and he send 3 to 4 million a month to each one. He is doing better because he use to have 3 SB Urrrrrrrrrrr. But despite what I tell him he believes that they both are being true to him. My gawd what has this world come to. I have met both girls and nothing special, both have 2 and / or 3 kids, both late 20's, both he met at the massage casas in centro. Can anyone give me a shout-out as we watch this train wreak in the making! He is returning next week to Medellin.
    I love you TM, but you are wrong about what a sugar daddy is. A sugar daddy is someone who is interested in something more than just sex for money. For the woman it is giving sex and emotion. For the men, it is giving money and having emotion.

    Are the women you hang out with just in it for money or do they hang out with you even when there is no chance of getting a dime? Then you are their sugar daddy.

    Do you push the women away from you when you are done having sex with them and have no interest in them outside of sex? If you are not doing that, then they are sugar babies.

    Yes, a working girl-john relationship is 100% about money for sex. A pure BF-GF is supposed to be 0% about money for sex. Why is there not room for something in the middle?

    As for your buddy, he is a fool looking to delude himself into using money to get a supposedly pure BF-GF relationship. He is paying for affection and the women are more than happy to take his money and to feed into that delusion.

    There is a saying in the alpha manosphere "A woman is not yours. She is your turn. " More than ever, men do not own women. That first part of her being yours, which is what your buddy is paying for, is his first mistake. You cannot control what the women do when you are not around, and you should just enjoy them when you are around them because that is when it is just your turn.

    The monthly allowance is an American invention to skirt prostitution laws. There is no purpose for it where prostitution is legal, and the monthly allowance is not IMO what defines a sugar relationship.

    As for the phrase, the only honest woman is a prostitute, I like it because I think people twist themselves into a pretzel lying to themselves trying to say there is no money for sex component to a relationship, but I think you are missing how you are putting yourself down with that phrase.

    You are pretty much saying any woman who wants to hang out with you or fuck you is either out for money or dishonest. That is not just a cynical outlook but you are putting yourself down. It is a defense so you will not get hurt again, and I get it.

    Most marriages I see were based on mutual attraction, but time after time, they evolve or rather devolve into basically parasitic relationships where men would get better value for their money dumping their spouses and seeing hookers. How many wives have gone from giving good head to (as Rodney Dangerfield would say) giving good headache?

    The reason I like the SB SD relationships is because there is an emotional component and I do allow myself to care about the women but if the women become bad company, start to shame or nag, and are no longer interested in sexually performing, they are gone.

    I do not know why we are trained to marry for richer or poorer and for better or worse. The women do not behave like that is true, and men should not either. The women only love us when we perform, and we should be the same way with them.

  13. #44467
    Yeah, the only thing the older men who do not speak Spanish have to offer hot Colombian women is cash. Seriously?

    I think what is so funny about that is that I am teaching the women around me without even knowing I am doing it. One of my gals was talking about retiring by building apartments and renting them. I talked to her about the rule of 72, currency risk, and interest rates just by telling her what yield I would need to get in such venture rather than just putting money in a REIT that paid dollars versus apartments paying pesos. I was not even telling her what she should do but telling her what I would need to see before putting money in. I was showing her a superior thought process without even realizing I was doing so. It changed her future plans.

    She reminded me the other day that she learned so much being around me. We must be living in different worlds JJBee because the women I see are dying for guidance, kindness, and wisdom. What I have found is you show women a path to a better life and they cannot fuck you fast enough.

  14. #44466
    Quote Originally Posted by EducationFund  [View Original Post]
    Newbie here, preparing for my first trip.

    Does anyone have a packing list for what to pack and wear to fit in with locals during the day (jeans, Nikes, and t-shirts or polo shirts?) and for going out at night for dinner and dancing? Dressing to not attract the thieves or repel the ladies. .
    Plain t shirt (navy, black) jeans and nikes are fine. Don't wear a watch. Just be confident and walk like you know what you're doing.

  15. #44465
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    ...Non-pro: A woman who is interested in engaging sexually with a man with no monetary compensation, required relationship or expectation of financial gain......
    Dude all women want material gain from a man in some form or fashion unless they are old and butt ugly which I suspect are the īnon-prosī you have been in bed with.

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