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  1. #44365
    I agree with Sang. It's all about safety. It may be fine for you, but I would not want some other gringo with little experience in Colombia to think that he could just as easily live in Bello. For the average gringo, it's probably not a great option.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    I don't think people are hating on you for wanting to live in bello.

    I think more people are trying to caution you. But hey if you want to do it that's all that matters.

  2. #44364
    Yes, I do appreciate the advice given here. But a little caught off guard to how much bad rep Bello gets on this board, which I guess for the most part is warranted. I was hoping to get more people to enjoy and explore Bello and see the beauty of it, it's called 'Bello' for a reason right haha. The stigma about Bello and it's violence and turf wars is the same thing Medellin had back in the Pablo Escobar days, even though outside Colombia people still think Medellin in general is a very dangerous and violent city and that you will be robbed / drugged / kidnapped right when you step off the airport.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    I don't think people are hating on you for wanting to live in bello.

    I think more people are trying to caution you. But hey if you want to do it that's all that matters.

  3. #44363

    It's advice not hating. In the end do what makes you happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by RiceRocket99  [View Original Post]
    Ummmm. A rich gringo wouldn't be staying in Bello and I ain't rich by any means. I don't flaunt money out in the open and the girls I know very well, I also know their families such as their brothers, cousins, and ex boyfriends as well haha. Surprised I haven't been drugged or robbed by any of them yet, maybe they waiting on my next trip and take me out clean. Man too many haters on this board. Oh well, this is my last post on this subject. Cheers everyone! Stay safe and have fun!
    I don't think people are hating on you for wanting to live in bello.

    I think more people are trying to caution you. But hey if you want to do it that's all that matters.

  4. #44362
    Ummmm. A rich gringo wouldn't be staying in Bello and I ain't rich by any means. I don't flaunt money out in the open and the girls I know very well, I also know their families such as their brothers, cousins, and ex boyfriends as well haha. Surprised I haven't been drugged or robbed by any of them yet, maybe they waiting on my next trip and take me out clean. Man too many haters on this board. Oh well, this is my last post on this subject. Cheers everyone! Stay safe and have fun!

    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    Or the brothers of the girls he's boning. The girls will most certainly talk to their brothers / cousins / boyfriends and tell them about the rich Gringo.

  5. #44361
    I don't know who's SJobs, but my first time in Bello was like 6 years ago and I liked it ever since. I've stayed in various barrios to get a general feel of this big city, so it's not like I'm going in blind. And yes, I wouldn't recommend a foreigner staying there either. It seems many of you take that advice since I almost never see any gringos out there.

    A very humbling experience was when I took a day trip exploring the streets/hills of Manrique with a local chick and I visited her barrio and apt in an Estrato 1 area, more like Estrato -1. I met all 3 of her hot sisters who all have at least 1 kid, 2 of them were breast feeding in front of me, tits out and about, I was like damn, I want some milk too haha. The poorest hoods do have some of the best views and hottest putas.

    Quote Originally Posted by GringoTrooper  [View Original Post]
    I think we may have another SJobs type here again.

    Move to Bello if you wish. Buyer beware, it will be a very humbling experience and I would never recommend that a foreigner stay in that area.

    Be careful brother.

  6. #44360
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicafan  [View Original Post]
    And not even the attention of high level guys. They may be too busy. It's the lower level punks that are even most likely to cause harm and in Bello's barrios there is no insulation from them.
    Or the brothers of the girls he's boning. The girls will most certainly talk to their brothers / cousins / boyfriends and tell them about the rich Gringo.

  7. #44359

    Very Interesting Topic With Good Points On Both Sides

    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    You can live there 10 years safely having fun etc etc.

    It only takes one bad experience.

    No matter what at the end of the day you're not one of them. You will always be a gringo to them. Welcomed at times yes. But talk to the wrong girl one time and piss the wrong guy off one time you'll realize the "friends" you have won't be there to help.

    A lot of gringos don't get this. I'm Asian also and I've never been robbed or had any bad situations. And I'll continue to go take certain precautions so that hopefully it stays this way.

    But IMO I've seen too many gringos come here then fall in love with the lifestyle then move here because they're with women they couldn't possibly pull in the states. Not saying the case with you. And eventually all 3 that friends that I know moved here have been drugged at least once. One of them was drugged twice.

    Yes maybe Bello is great for you now. But the odds will always be against you as long as there's no 0 on the other side.
    Having met RiceRocket I have no doubts he can handle himself. But as mentioned, it only takes one really bad experience to fuck it all up.

    Is there any value of living here as he plans, and trying to keep as low a profile as possible? In other words, never show or act like you are have any extra wealth other than just enough to get by. I know, the standard answer is the locals assume anyone here from another country is a potential target, but by blending in and not flashing cash and jewelry and not having ostentatious items in your casa, does that help?

  8. #44358

    It's about the odds

    Quote Originally Posted by RiceRocket99  [View Original Post]
    I have paisa friends that know lots of people in gang circles and in the drug trade. That shit doesn't even bother or scare me. I might even join them and create a chino cartel or a chino plaza haha. Kidding aside, Bello does get a bad rep, even more so from their fellow paisas. I took a Medellin girl out in Bello to party it up at a bar and she got all paranoid about being robbed or drugged and wasn't comfortable with me talking to random people because they were young, hot, and buzzed haha. Well, that was a mood killer because that place was popping with good music, hot chicks, cheap drinks, and even cheaper party favors. I had to finish her back at my newly renovated Bello apt I was renting for $18 USD a night. You guys can stay in Poblado / Laureles / Envigado, which doesn't really mean it's that much safer considering the recent robberies. Bello is not for the average MDE visitor, and probably not even for most MDE vets. But it's all to each his own and we all roll different and that's what makes MDE una chimba hpta! In the words of Pollo Negro. Chino Amarillo is out!
    You can live there 10 years safely having fun etc etc.

    It only takes one bad experience.

    No matter what at the end of the day you're not one of them. You will always be a gringo to them. Welcomed at times yes. But talk to the wrong girl one time and piss the wrong guy off one time you'll realize the "friends" you have won't be there to help.

    A lot of gringos don't get this. I'm Asian also and I've never been robbed or had any bad situations. And I'll continue to go take certain precautions so that hopefully it stays this way.

    But IMO I've seen too many gringos come here then fall in love with the lifestyle then move here because they're with women they couldn't possibly pull in the states. Not saying the case with you. And eventually all 3 that friends that I know moved here have been drugged at least once. One of them was drugged twice.

    Yes maybe Bello is great for you now. But the odds will always be against you as long as there's no 0 on the other side.

  9. #44357

    Clueless

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill  [View Original Post]
    QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2533496]Another great day in MDE.

    She says 40 k, I got two twenties. Perfect. I know I say I usually just give 50 k but if I have the change in bills I take the deal.

    But not fat at all. In gym clothes. Alejandra. She says 40 k, I got two twenties. Perfect. I know I say I usually just give 50 k but if I have the change in bills I take the deal.
    And borderline delusional.

  10. #44356
    Quote Originally Posted by MongerHunger  [View Original Post]
    I take it that they are not enforcing the 7 days quarantine requirement to enter the US as stated.
    MH,

    I think it is supposed to be 10 days, and no one said anything to me about it when I re-entered from Mexico last week. I did get grilled a little more per customs than usual though but I think it was just because it was so damned slow at the airport. The airport in Monterrey was busy. The USA side may have been the slowest I have seen since Covid began. I suspect this was just the international part though.

  11. #44355

    Bello

    I think we may have another SJobs type here again.

    Move to Bello if you wish. Buyer beware, it will be a very humbling experience and I would never recommend that a foreigner stay in that area.

    Be careful brother.

  12. #44354
    I have paisa friends that know lots of people in gang circles and in the drug trade. That shit doesn't even bother or scare me. I might even join them and create a chino cartel or a chino plaza haha. Kidding aside, Bello does get a bad rep, even more so from their fellow paisas. I took a Medellin girl out in Bello to party it up at a bar and she got all paranoid about being robbed or drugged and wasn't comfortable with me talking to random people because they were young, hot, and buzzed haha. Well, that was a mood killer because that place was popping with good music, hot chicks, cheap drinks, and even cheaper party favors. I had to finish her back at my newly renovated Bello apt I was renting for $18 USD a night. You guys can stay in Poblado / Laureles / Envigado, which doesn't really mean it's that much safer considering the recent robberies. Bello is not for the average MDE visitor, and probably not even for most MDE vets. But it's all to each his own and we all roll different and that's what makes MDE una chimba hpta! In the words of Pollo Negro. Chino Amarillo is out!

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    Happy you are confident and have friends. People talk within communities. Its a matter of time before it catches the ear of someone that has gang power that there is a gringo with $$ around town, it doesn't have to be someone in your circle that lets that information out, if you live somehwere people just come to know in time. Organized crime works by targetting people with the biggest possible payday. A gringo apartment owner who parties in Bello is simply going to end up on their radar and an irrestible target sooner or later.

  13. #44353

    The classic price talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill  [View Original Post]
    QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2533496]Another great day in MDE.

    She says 40 k, I got two twenties. Perfect. I know I say I usually just give 50 k but if I have the change in bills I take the deal.

    But not fat at all. In gym clothes. Alejandra. She says 40 k, I got two twenties. Perfect. I know I say I usually just give 50 k but if I have the change in bills I take the deal.

    end QUOTE




    This is typical of screwing up the price structure and raising prices. You got guys perpetuating the gringo attitude of -so cheap compared to home.

    Just a couple years ago reports of mongers accepting the going rate of 15 and 20 k for a street girl then giving tips or rounding off or doubling because its -so cheap compared to home.

    Another one is the -pay first mentality with street girls.

    Yeh I know, its your money and blah blah but when street girls and casa prices increase to 100 k and 250 k for a quickie, and more reports of cash and dash loss of upper hand etc., look in the mirror and figure out why LOL.
    Boo hoo.

    Plenty of girls still offer 20-25 k. Just the ugly ones.

    If some chick decides she's going to hold out for everything over 40-50 k she's going to be standing there all day while all the other chicks undercut her. Basic economics.

    Sorry you don't like I sometimes throw an extra 2. 50 usd instead of haggling over the price of a pack of gum to fuck a smoking 19 year old.

  14. #44352
    QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2533496]Another great day in MDE.

    She says 40 k, I got two twenties. Perfect. I know I say I usually just give 50 k but if I have the change in bills I take the deal.

    But not fat at all. In gym clothes. Alejandra. She says 40 k, I got two twenties. Perfect. I know I say I usually just give 50 k but if I have the change in bills I take the deal.

    end QUOTE




    This is typical of screwing up the price structure and raising prices. You got guys perpetuating the gringo attitude of -so cheap compared to home.

    Just a couple years ago reports of mongers accepting the going rate of 15 and 20 k for a street girl then giving tips or rounding off or doubling because its -so cheap compared to home.

    Another one is the -pay first mentality with street girls.

    Yeh I know, its your money and blah blah but when street girls and casa prices increase to 100 k and 250 k for a quickie, and more reports of cash and dash loss of upper hand etc., look in the mirror and figure out why LOL.

  15. #44351
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    Happy you are confident and have friends. People talk within communities. Its a matter of time before it catches the ear of someone that has gang power that there is a gringo with $$ around town, it doesn't have to be someone in your circle that lets that information out, if you live somehwere people just come to know in time. Organized crime works by targetting people with the biggest possible payday. A gringo apartment owner who parties in Bello is simply going to end up on their radar and an irrestible target sooner or later.
    And not even the attention of high level guys. They may be too busy. It's the lower level punks that are even most likely to cause harm and in Bello's barrios there is no insulation from them.

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