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  1. #64436

    Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by FunLuvr  [View Original Post]
    They first agree to see me. Then I ask them 200 mil plus taxi. That's usually the first mention of money. Some agree and some ask for more. For those who ask for more, I offer 250 including taxi. If they don't agree, I thank them for considering visiting me. Then I move on.

    For those who initiate the talk about money, my procedure is the same. Those who start with a price, it's usually 300 to 350 mil.
    200 mil plus taxi is usually 250 mil in total because transport is usually 25 mil each way for the girls. For girls who ask for more, 250 including taxi is basically the same offer, 250 mil minus 50 mil transport roundtrip. You're not really offering more at all.

  2. #64435
    Quote Originally Posted by TexasPistol  [View Original Post]
    ...What could possibly be simpler, easier or more affordable anywhere in the world? (I haven't yet tried Thailand or the Philippines however I personally prefer Latinas over Asians.).
    Brazil is easier and much better service on average simply based on your description but the price will depend on where you go.

    It is only easier if you always start from the same starting point. At this time of year, many mongers who frequent Medellin probably will tell you they got whatsapp messages everyday from girls asking for a date. You pick one and they show up at your door. I would say it is easier than what you describe. Most mongers don't deal with clock watcher like FL described so it is cheaper than casas at the comfort of your own apartment. One thing about Medellin is that most working girls have no job. As a result, they are going to stick around longer if they like you or your place.

  3. #64434
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorPorFavor  [View Original Post]
    I assume you negotiate with the FB girls to get to your 250 price. What are they typically asking for to begin with? How do your negotiations usually go?
    They first agree to see me. Then I ask them 200 mil plus taxi. That's usually the first mention of money. Some agree and some ask for more. For those who ask for more, I offer 250 including taxi. If they don't agree, I thank them for considering visiting me. Then I move on.

    For those who initiate the talk about money, my procedure is the same. Those who start with a price, it's usually 300 to 350 mil.

  4. #64433
    Quote Originally Posted by TexasPistol  [View Original Post]
    put in the address of one of the numerous brothels. In 20 or 30 minutes you're there, after a comfortable car ride and maybe $5 on the credit card. You are introduced to a half dozen almost nude young girls. If you see one you who you like
    Do not forget to get her contact info so she can come over when she has time off.

  5. #64432
    Quote Originally Posted by TexasPistol  [View Original Post]
    Now I definitely see that I was being very naive and I threw away a lot of money. I hope that all that money went to help some sick grandmothers out there in slums someplace.

    As of now this is my philosophy:

    Don't bother with meeting anyone on the Internet. Instead go to airbnb. Book a decent apartment maybe in Laureles, which is nice but less expensive than El Poblado. After arriving in said apartment open up the Uber app and put in the address of one of the numerous brothels. In 20 or 30 minutes you're there, after a comfortable car ride and maybe $5 on the credit card. You are introduced to a half dozen almost nude young girls. If you see one you who you like and chances are you will then hand over the credit card and pay $65 for an hour including uncovered oral. Or worse case Uber over to the next brothel. Even if you are charged an $8 presentation fee although you chose no one, I don't think that's going to bankrupt anyone. I think that they do that just to keep out pests who are not seriously looking for sex and who are just visiting brothels for presentations.

    What could possibly be simpler, easier or more affordable anywhere in the world? (I haven't yet tried Thailand or the Philippines however I personally prefer Latinas over Asians.).
    With all due respect you probably should hold off coming to Medellin for a year and use that time to really read the forum. I'm not talking about the last trip and not knowing the fair market price of your entertainment. That is an independant judgement you or anyone else would make. But just reading your new plan. I would point out that the best way to enjoy your trip here is to go to an ATM and pull cash. Put your credit card in the safe. Don't pay for the brothel with your credit card that is just nuts. You pay with cash just like every Colombian person does. Now I can understand paying your AirBnB with a credit card but seriously pay for everything else in cash.

  6. #64431
    Quote Originally Posted by CeeJay1  [View Original Post]
    Are the girls or some of the girls you use obvious pros (for example selling photo and video content)? For the semi-pros (ones that look kinda normal), do you just come out and asked them up front if the they escort or whatever on the side or do you build up a rapport with them over time and feel them out, before you come out and ask them?
    I define a pro as someone who does P4P full time and has no other activities or sources of income. I have some Facebook friends who were pros when I met them, and some who became pros after I met them. Most of my FB friends are not what I define as pros.

    I'm an old guy. When I become friends with an early 20's chica, I don't need to ask if she's P4P. Why else would see want to befriend me? If I'm interested, within the first 5 messages, I tell her I want to see her. The answer is almost always positive. I can only think of three chicas, out of more than 300, who asked why I want to see her. I tell her I want to have sex with her. Two have said they are not P4P. No one has gotten upset when I tell her what I want.

    There are many chicas in Medellin who accept the opportunity to earn some quick money. They don't consider sex, even with strangers, as immoral. I've had sex with waitresses, bartenders, store clerks, and friends of causal friends who I haven't had sex with.

  7. #64430

    Just Lay it Out

    Quote Originally Posted by CeeJay1  [View Original Post]
    Are the girls or some of the girls you use obvious pros (for example selling photo and video content)? For the semi-pros (ones that look kinda normal), do you just come out and asked them up front if the they escort or whatever on the side or do you build up a rapport with them over time and feel them out, before you come out and ask them?
    Medellin is unique in that you can use FB like a escort / hookup service. Once you friend a guy or girl with lots of fairly sexy looking Amigas it's like a pyramid scheme and you hook onto a hundred of their friends. Just say "250 mas taxi" or whatever you are offering and they will say yes or no or come back with a negotiation figure. It's really like shooting fish in a barrel. No pretense at all.

  8. #64429
    Quote Originally Posted by FunLuvr  [View Original Post]
    I use Facebook for almost all my contacts. I pay 250 mil or less for the chica. That includes taxi fare. I usually spend about an hour with the chica. We never discuss amount of time. If one quotes me a price by the hour, I drop her. You can get a much better view of the chica on Facebook, and almost all the recent photos posted were taken recently.
    Are the girls or some of the girls you use obvious pros (for example selling photo and video content)? For the semi-pros (ones that look kinda normal), do you just come out and asked them up front if the they escort or whatever on the side or do you build up a rapport with them over time and feel them out, before you come out and ask them?

  9. #64428
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    That begs the question as to why you sent money to the chick that would eventually treat you like shit? I am in the camp of you definitely did not read this forum before your undertakings. One cardinal rule is not to send money. But I guess you learned that first hand by reinventing the wheel. Another one is why are you trying to arrange meetings months before you go there? You do not do that with hookers. You arrange the meeting when you are there and ready. Would you have called the brothel where Samantha works and told them you will be there in March? So why do it with the girls on facebook?
    Now I definitely see that I was being very naive and I threw away a lot of money. I hope that all that money went to help some sick grandmothers out there in slums someplace.

    As of now this is my philosophy:

    Don't bother with meeting anyone on the Internet. Instead go to airbnb. Book a decent apartment maybe in Laureles, which is nice but less expensive than El Poblado. After arriving in said apartment open up the Uber app and put in the address of one of the numerous brothels. In 20 or 30 minutes you're there, after a comfortable car ride and maybe $5 on the credit card. You are introduced to a half dozen almost nude young girls. If you see one you who you like and chances are you will then hand over the credit card and pay $65 for an hour including uncovered oral. Or worse case Uber over to the next brothel. Even if you are charged an $8 presentation fee although you chose no one, I don't think that's going to bankrupt anyone. I think that they do that just to keep out pests who are not seriously looking for sex and who are just visiting brothels for presentations.

    What could possibly be simpler, easier or more affordable anywhere in the world? (I haven't yet tried Thailand or the Philippines however I personally prefer Latinas over Asians.).

  10. #64427

    Colombian girl from the states

    She wanted this in USD by the way.

  11. #64426

    Learnings

    TexaxPistol first time report is a very good one, and it takes guts to do so. Sure, this forum has all the info and advice from experienced users, but often the newbie is lured away by websites like Cupid, Seeking, where photos and chats seem great, and way easier and safer than picking up girls from the street, especially when one does not speak the language. He is one of many doing this daily, before the first time in Colombia. The girls on the online sites are great at social engineering, telling the guys all the things they want to hear. Had a girl I met through Cupid, a stunner, met her and she was so so in bed, but good as company. Once she contacted me about being very sick, needing antibiotics and no money, sent pictures of herself crying. I sent some money via WU, as I knew her already. Next day, the working girl was in Cancun with another guy, posting photos on IG. She also had used my tablet before and left history. She was on all online dating sites know to mankind, from arab dating to euro, asian dating, bla bla, all! She also was going to youtube to watch videos on how to trap men to feel bad about them and take care of them.

    Advice here is don't trust anything they say, don't send money, doubt the photos, and don't pay for trips to meet you for first time. You are stuck as you can't really kick her out since she doesn't live here and has no money, and it will ruin your vacation (experience speaking here).

    All else said, if you must learn by yourself, practice the "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me".

  12. #64425
    Quote Originally Posted by FunLuvr  [View Original Post]
    You asked, so here's a few suggestions. You paid at least double of what you should have paid. Never pay with US dollars. I don't think there is a merchant in Medellin that will accept USD. I use Facebook for almost all my contacts. I pay 250 mil or less for the chica. That includes taxi fare. I usually spend about an hour with the chica. We never discuss amount of time. If one quotes me a price by the hour, I drop her. You can get a much better view of the chica on Facebook, and almost all the recent photos posted were taken recently. Be aware that if the only body pictures are looking down from above her head, she is probably overweight. You can't see the size of her from that angle. If she only posts photos of her upper body, from the breasts up, she is probably overweight.

    There are also websites with chicas. Mileroticos, Catadorcolombia, and Photoprepagos are just a few. I've never used them, but I heard many of the chicas use photos that have been enhanced. Those sites list prices also.

    Good luck with your next visit and save some money.
    I assume you negotiate with the FB girls to get to your 250 price. What are they typically asking for to begin with? How do your negotiations usually go?

  13. #64424
    Quote Originally Posted by TexasPistol  [View Original Post]
    Before going I spent months on FB trying to arrange meetings with girls in Medellin and I got a lot of girls trying to sell "content" and few if any who were willing to do video chats to verify their appearance. ....

    Personally, I don't know why the brothels don't get more attention, especially if your Spanish or appearance isn't good enough to charm the beauties in Parque lleras and get special good deals from them.
    You don't need to arrange anything ahead of the time. You shouldn't anyway because you think the girl think like you and will honor their word or show up as expected.

    The easier approach is to let girl know about 2 weeks in advance you will be in Medellin and get WhatsApp numbers. You can start chatting at this point if you want. I personally only do it after I have arrived. Most girls I contacted this month have no problem showing up the same day or the next day that I contacted them. My shortest record is that I made contact with one at 9 PM and she showed up at my apartment at 11 PM. She is 162 cm tall and 46 kg. She even asked me later what did II think about the session with her. I told her BBBJ can be better and she said she would keep that in mind the next time. You will have a better chance of doing video call if you are already in Medellin.

    Think this way, you can spend the same amount of money on 3 times the number of girls you have met. It's a numbers game. You will have a better chance finding someone you like if you can met more. Just pay them to go away and you don't even need to fuck them. I stayed here longer so I have more leverage. If the girl wants higher price, I just told her what my offer is. Sometimes they will change their mind. I had one this month, she changed her mind two days later, and now is offering her friend for trio like other girls and offered to do everything I asked them to do. For those from dating sites, you can just ask them out for a coffee or something before committing to price and sex if you want to check out the appearance.

    Brothels do get attention but it is not usually for people who want outcall. The service tends to be limited too. You just haven't been able to make the right connection with other approaches but you will find it if you tried it enough times.

    You can be robbed in a car. Uber is safer but you can still be robbed in various ways.

    I think you should consider learning as a process. It doesn't have to reach the final goal to be useful. If you never start, then you are always stuck in the same place. Similarly, your next trip is going to build on top of this experience but don't limit yourself to brothels. It's not the best option for what you said you prefer.

  14. #64423
    Quote Originally Posted by TexasPistol  [View Original Post]
    Before going I spent months on FB trying to arrange meetings with girls in Medellin and I got a lot of girls trying to sell "content" and few if any who were willing to do video chats to verify their appearance. I felt very suspicious that I was being scammed by some fat old men who were grabbing porn off the web from who knows where and who were trying to sell it to me for hundreds of dollars. Or it might have been real girls trying to sell porn but not actually willing to meet in person.
    That begs the question as to why you sent money to the chick that would eventually treat you like shit? I am in the camp of you definitely did not read this forum before your undertakings. One cardinal rule is not to send money. But I guess you learned that first hand by reinventing the wheel. Another one is why are you trying to arrange meetings months before you go there? You do not do that with hookers. You arrange the meeting when you are there and ready. Would you have called the brothel where Samantha works and told them you will be there in March? So why do it with the girls on facebook?

    Here is a scammer video that is funny as fuck for you guys that like to send money.

    https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhsIy...ing-an-old-man

    P.S. There is already more porn than a person can handle in a lifetime free on the internet. No need to buy somebody's content.

  15. #64422
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    Nacional (green) or Medellin (red) is OK. You'll get a bit of good natured stick if you wear Medellin Jersey but nothing dangerous. I don't think the "clasico" Medellin / Nacional game will happen again before next year. Things get messy around and in the stadium when those teams meet. Nacional jerseys get safe and free passage citywide.
    Free advice. Do not wear a Colombian football shirt in Panama. You're welcome.

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