Medellin Reports

[Knowledge]

It's the same for me. There are unfortunate incidents of this sort that are widely reported. I take pains to avoid anyone reading about me in the media. I think the explanation is a combination of the two things you mentioned. It happens to Colombians too but you don't see it reported as intensely as it is when it happens to foreigners. An example of what I mean is the case of the American guy who murdered his Colombian girlfriend. It was covered live 24/7 in all media. Colombian guys killing their girlfriends is something that happens several times a day but it never dominates the airwaves the way that single case did.

Lately, this type of tragic death is happening very frequently. No good. Either there is an organized gang out there who knows how to rob and murder tourists or Newbees keeping their guards off or Americans are easy target?

[Villainy]

Lately, this type of tragic death is happening very frequently. No good. Either there is an organized gang out there who knows how to rob and murder tourists or Newbees keeping their guards off or Americans are easy target?

How many of these fine upstanding tourists would wear their bling and pull out their iPhone 15's in the worst ghetto section of their respective cities? How many would go strolling alone in those same areas day or night?

Yet these same people seem to lose all their common sense when they get on a plane and come here.

For some unknown reason which only makes sense to themselves they want to wear their open chested silk shirts and their bling and expensive watches. Oddly enough they get robbed and sometimes with fatal consequences. They bring girls to their rooms without a hotel reservation desk to verify IDs and pour out alcoholic drinks only to find that they got drugged and robbed and if they are lucky they survived the experience.

If it sounds like I'm blaming the victims, well, that isn't my point. Guys who come here need to remember to bring their common sense as well as their passport. Wearing bling just isn't going to impress anyone. Except the poor, desperate thieves who prey on the weak. Drinking in your room with girls you don't know is just begging to be victimized.

Drinking or not, when you leave a restaurant at night, instead of walking down dark empty streets, load the app. DiDi, Uber whatever and call them to the restaurant instead of walking alone down some dark side streets.

If this doesn't make sense to you. Take a 6 month vacation and stay in mid-town Manhattan. You'll get an education in common sense. Your bad (or careless) habits will get you mugged but probably not killed. After that you'll be prepared to handle yourself in Medellin or any of a number of other Central or South American cities without getting yourself killed.

[CoolGregg]

Oh wait a minute it was in Envigado not Centro. My bad. Of course it is stupid to bring gold chains to Colombia. Many moons ago I bought a nice Emerald pinky ring in CTG. Gold was a lot cheaper then. It took a few trips before it was stolen while I was asleep. After that I don't wear any fancy stuff in Colombia. Who am I trying to impress? The only people who would care are crooks and gold digger chicas. In 2010 I stayed in Envigado and I did not see one working girl. Times change I guess.

Lately, this type of tragic death is happening very frequently. No good. Either there is an organized gang out there who knows how to rob and murder tourists or Newbees keeping their guards off or Americans are easy target?

[Gabacho]

All should be welcome to visit Colombia. Stop worrying about other guys and just enjoy your visit. When I visit, I don't pay any attention to what other guys are doing and paying. I spend what I want and I don't really care what a bunch of anonymous strangers think. There are those who call guys spending a lot of money on girls simps but a number of these guys just make more money than you and the money they spend is not that much to them. I know a number of guys who work in the financial industry in New York City who come down to Medellin. They make millions each year so spending US $100 on a girl is not a big deal to them. Are they simps because they make so much money than you and are willing to spend it? I don't think so. They come down, get the girls they want, have a good time, and go back home happy.

You missed my point entirely. The problem isn't what I think. The problem is what Colombians think. These weekend warrior types are getting murdered by the boat load and they are giving gringos a bad reputation in Colombia. Don't take my word for it, read the comments on the Minuto30 article that Combo pointed out.

[Knowledge]

If I'm honest my opinion is Colombians, men and women, of course know all about the game and the fact that they are of course by far the majority players. What they and I dislike is the flamboyant behavior of some short term punters that gives the country and the game a bad name.

Can you really blame them for thinking that way?

To be honest the weekend warriors need to just go away.

[John Gault]

Oh wait a minute it was in Envigado not Centro. My bad. Of course it is stupid to bring gold chains to Colombia. Many moons ago I bought a nice Emerald pinky ring in CTG. Gold was a lot cheaper then. It took a few trips before it was stolen while I was asleep. After that I don't wear any fancy stuff in Colombia. Who am I trying to impress? The only people who would care are crooks and gold digger chicas. In 2010 I stayed in Envigado and I did not see one working girl. Times change I guess.

[MoonShot]

Can you really blame them for thinking that way?

To be honest the weekend warriors need to just go away.

All should be welcome to visit Colombia. Stop worrying about other guys and just enjoy your visit. When I visit, I don't pay any attention to what other guys are doing and paying. I spend what I want and I don't really care what a bunch of anonymous strangers think. There are those who call guys spending a lot of money on girls simps but a number of these guys just make more money than you and the money they spend is not that much to them. I know a number of guys who work in the financial industry in New York City who come down to Medellin. They make millions each year so spending US $100 on a girl is not a big deal to them. Are they simps because they make so much money than you and are willing to spend it? I don't think so. They come down, get the girls they want, have a good time, and go back home happy.

[Knowledge]

Quintero is out of the picture now. Two years ago he had himself and his core followers convinced he was a future president of Colombia. Now that he resigned in disgrace and his patron Gustavo Petro has more active scandals than all his predecessors combined, only the most delusional believe he has any political future. You might be right about him going to jail. Even if Fico agrees with the barriers I don't see that he has any choice but to remove them to avoid getting the stink of Quintero's disastrous term on him.

I say fuck the barriers and I say fuck Daniel Quintero too.

"Taking back the park from undisreables" is in clear violation of this law (see attached foto). How can you have a law that says that public parks cannot bre closed that they must be open to all the citizens for their enjoyment and free transit while at the same time picking and choosing which citizens are allowed in??

Daniel Quintero is a fucking criminal. I say lock his ass up!

[Mr Enternational]

Read the comments to see what (a lot of) Colombians think of male tourists looking for pussy.

There were 8 comments. One said they do not learn. Another said that is what you get for coming here looking for hookers. Another said it is the Venezuelans doing all the killing. The other 5 said to stop blaming the victim and that nobody deserves to die because they sought the services of a hooker. Which of these are you saying is what Colombians think of male tourists looking for pussy?

Different people have different thoughts concerning different things. Is anyone supposed to live their lives based on the diversified thoughts of strangers? The comment saying that is what you get also said you come do it here because it is not legal there. Duuuhhh. As if that constitutes a wrong doing. The same way people from there go to overseas because more money is paid. The same way I go to the racetrack to drive fast because there is a speed limit on the public roads. Am I supposed to not go somewhere something is allowed just because it is not allowed where I live? That would be dumb.

[Gabacho]

Read the comments to see what (a lot of) Colombians think of male tourists looking for pussy.

Can you really blame them for thinking that way?

To be honest the weekend warriors need to just go away.

[Combo]

The "gringo" Mike S. (34-38 years old) was killed with a crossbow on a farm in Envigado.

The alleged murderers of the American were a woman and her accomplice, motive being stealing jewelry and money.

https://www.minuto30.com/con-una-cru...che=1701018994

Read the comments to see what (a lot of) Colombians think of male tourists looking for pussy.

[Knowledge]

It is absolutely the same few locals who camp out on the benches most days. The older coffee ladies claim them early in the day and take turns making sales rounds and keeping their thermoses on the benches so they have seats when they want them. A few of the same oldtimers sit with them for an hour or so at a time. The second most popular bench alternative after the fences is the fountain on the Nutibara side of the plaza. None of it makes any sense and the barrier entrances have recently been manned by police on a part time basis only. On a related note, I asked a city worker why trees were cut down along the side of the Palacio Uribe cultural center. I had assumed it was to give the authorities an unobstructed CCTV view but he told me it was because the trees were diseased and had to be cut down to avoid them falling on a passerby. He didn't have an answer when I asked if they would be replaced. Ever since the pandemic when something like a couple of dozen people had the entire plaza to ourselves for months, I've felt a closer connection with what goes on there. I didn't think that was possible but the pandemic changed many of our beliefs.

Good explanation. Since the plaza has been "taken back" now and they don't even frisk anyone anymore they should put back the benches, or install more. It's just strange that people have to brake their asses on the park fence or sit uncomfortably crouched alongside museum (with rats frolicking behind, and even then there is often no extra space) to be able to rest while seeing the major tourist attraction. The remaining benches seem to be almost always occupied by the same locals anyways.

[Gabacho]

This message is for all you poblado boys aka weekend warriors, passport bros, etc. You come down here flashing your IPhone 15 Pro Max 512 gb and your gold chains and flashy jewelry and this is what will happen to you:

https://youtu.be/a4zYwnrMkG8?si=iiD7Epf3AygNd2Oi

Follow along.

[Gabacho]

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Benches were removed to discourage loitering in the park. The stated objective of the barriers and the bench removal was to "take back the park" from undesirables (anyone who isn't a tourist). The last Mayor did it as a hail Mary attempt to salvage the sinking campaign of his progressive alliance after it had become clear in the polls that it was quickly trending downward. There were constant photo ops and flashy staged performance events. At one point the barriers were pushed down and sculptures were vandalized by protestors. Mayor Quintero had then re-installed. The streets are saying Fico will remove the barriers when he takes over next year. I think there is a happy medium of restricting street cart vendors with public address systems and allowing the traditional mix of punter rats, chicas, and drug dealers. We will all see what happens two or three months from now.

I say fuck the barriers and I say fuck Daniel Quintero too.

"Taking back the park from undisreables" is in clear violation of this law (see attached foto). How can you have a law that says that public parks cannot bre closed that they must be open to all the citizens for their enjoyment and free transit while at the same time picking and choosing which citizens are allowed in??

Daniel Quintero is a fucking criminal. I say lock his ass up!

[JohnnieCash]

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Benches were removed to discourage loitering in the park. The stated objective of the barriers and the bench removal was to "take back the park" from undesirables (anyone who isn't a tourist). The last Mayor did it as a hail Mary attempt to salvage the sinking campaign of his progressive alliance after it had become clear in the polls that it was quickly trending downward. There were constant photo ops and flashy staged performance events. At one point the barriers were pushed down and sculptures were vandalized by protestors. Mayor Quintero had then re-installed. The streets are saying Fico will remove the barriers when he takes over next year. I think there is a happy medium of restricting street cart vendors with public address systems and allowing the traditional mix of punter rats, chicas, and drug dealers. We will all see what happens two or three months from now.

Good explanation. Since the plaza has been "taken back" now and they don't even frisk anyone anymore they should put back the benches, or install more. It's just strange that people have to brake their asses on the park fence or sit uncomfortably crouched alongside museum (with rats frolicking behind, and even then there is often no extra space) to be able to rest while seeing the major tourist attraction. The remaining benches seem to be almost always occupied by the same locals anyways.