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  1. #43350
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    To put it differently. Price is what you pay and value is what you get. The two are not always correlated. True in mongering as in many inefficient and opaque markets in life. Its each guys right to do as he wishes, but cultivating a good relationship with the chica and paying a fair price is a solid and sensible and arguably even safer way to monger. But yeah there are definitely mongers who fly in from NY pay the chica an ungodly (for Colombia) amount of money and have the effect of taking that chica out of commission for a few weeks. I know atleast one chica who is in that boat, she is not too high volume, but does it to augment her income as a house cleaner where she gets paid 80mil per day with 2-3 days work a week. We are more like friends now and when she tells me what some of these mongers paid, I tell her good for her as she got her payday. But as someone mentioned these chicas are such crappy budgeters, that even 7 Million will be gone in a month! And they are back. BTW that's what a monger just paid her for a week in Cartagena recently. Do the math and you realize the dude paid her what she would take more than 8months to earn in a week.
    True that about budgets and planning, they have none, they get back to their family and friends and boyfriends and whatever they have it is gone.

    You give them 2 mil and it is gone in 2 minutes.

    You give 20 mil and its gone in 20 minutes.

    You give 200 mil and it is gone in 2 hours.

    You give 2,000,000 and it is gone in 2 days.

    Bottom line no matter what they have it is gone quickly and 2 days later they are begging for pesos and willing to suck and fuck for 20 mil as they are hard up. But gawd we love these barrio paisa pussy.

    The Tall Man.

  2. #43349
    Bulevar Botero a couple of doors away is the same routine. I recently discovered there are long term residents on its upper floor. I think that explains how it remained open during the entire four month lockdown. I found it very helpful.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyO  [View Original Post]
    I remember a lot of you guys mentioning that hotel. It was actually the girl with the other BM that wanted it because she didn't have cedula and we were literally outside of it. I know what you mean by the lookers but I feel even without the language you'll either get good vibes or not from a girl and that's what I normally go with. We were about to head back so I literally just grabbed the venny quickly as she was already outside the hotel and I was sex starved for the last few days, but yeah as with a lot of them dumb as rock she could have earned a nice propina.

    I've been talking to a few of them via translator on what's app over the last few days. I know I'll get good service from them because they have good attitudes and I get good vibes from them and I've already made it clear exactly what I want and they've promised to deliver, let's see.

  3. #43348
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    There are theories that the vaccines offer no protection for up to 8 months from the time you receive your dose. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?
    With Pfizer, there was a 52% reduction inn your chances of getting Covid three weeks after getting the first shot. You get the second injection three weeks later and the data showed that your risk of Covid went down by 95% two weeks after getting that shot.

    With the Moderna vaccine, you get a 80 to 85% reduction in expectation of catching Covid for four weeks. When you get your second injection four weeks after the first, the reduction in getting Covid goes to 95% after two more weeks.

    I got the Moderna vaccine yesterday. Based on the data, I think my leaving 5 to 6 weeks after getting this first injection is the most rational course, but I am leaving a day after the second shot because I am an inpatient and horny motherfucker who thinks an 80% or so reduction is good enough.

    As far as eight months out or later, shit, the amount of data available is so tiny that I would not trust anything anybody said on that.

  4. #43347
    I believe it's helpful to repeat this advice from time to time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeos1  [View Original Post]
    Those that target foreigners will be operating where the foreigners are. I know several monger types that have been drugged in Poblado. And know of a few that were murdered in Poblado and Laureles. Because that's where they were, and the people that targeted them know where they are. I suspect that you are much more likely to have something put in your drink in Parque Lleras than anywhere downtown. You are more likely to have a couple or three guys follow you and try to roll you for what you have on you in Centro.

    So for walking around having a stroll. Probably Poblado is safer, again depending on where you are, time of day. As for partying in a bar with a couple of chicas who seem to think you are great and want to party hard. Poblado, parque Lleras. Police there have said it is very dangerous. Guys are getting scoped lots, some end up od'd and dead. So never let your drink out of your sight, don't accept open drinks from strangers, don't go home with a couple of chicas after having a few drinks.

    Doesn't make centro safer. It's just in Centro it's more likely to be a crime of opportunity. They see you, that's the opportunity.

  5. #43346

    The City is Waking Up

    I haven't verified this info, but going by the look and sound of things, the lock-down must be over. There is more activity, people, and traffic outside my hotel window in the last 30 minutes than the entire time I have been here, arrived Saturday night.

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  6. #43345
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    I agree to an extent. And initially this is what I thought as well since poblado is filled with tourists.

    3 people I know got drugged. They were all in more local areas. None in poblado.

    One that got drugged was at Farenheit. Which is known for after hours parties.

    The friend who was robbed was in centro.

    I think in Poblado the crooked cops are the main concern.

    And while I do believe you can definitely get drugged and robbed in Poblado the presence of police at night makes it somewhat of a deterrent.

    Maybe I am wrong with my assessment of crimes vs mongers in medellin. For me personally Poblado is clearly a safer area than centro.
    Those that target foreigners will be operating where the foreigners are. I know several monger types that have been drugged in Poblado. And know of a few that were murdered in Poblado and Laureles. Because that's where they were, and the people that targeted them know where they are. I suspect that you are much more likely to have something put in your drink in Parque Lleras than anywhere downtown. You are more likely to have a couple or three guys follow you and try to roll you for what you have on you in Centro.

    So for walking around having a stroll. Probably Poblado is safer, again depending on where you are, time of day. As for partying in a bar with a couple of chicas who seem to think you are great and want to party hard. Poblado, parque Lleras. Police there have said it is very dangerous. Guys are getting scoped lots, some end up od'd and dead. So never let your drink out of your sight, don't accept open drinks from strangers, don't go home with a couple of chicas after having a few drinks.

    Doesn't make centro safer. It's just in Centro it's more likely to be a crime of opportunity. They see you, that's the opportunity.

  7. #43344

    Paisas / Garotas in Europe / Nordic; an observation

    I see good looking Brazlilian girls and Colombian / Venzuelan frequent on the escortsites in Europe. They can just enter with a Tourist-visa.

    Then salaries are, before / after Corona not that high, since competition is fierce.

    My prepago-friends in Colombia would love to do porn, if not exposed in Colombia, with is it sooner or later it often does.

    A really sexy pornmodel can make 1000-2000 uro / scen, even 3000/ scen in Europe, according to ads. At Sexyjobs, plus expenes fare travelling and hotel. A session with a regular John might be 200 uro - 30-50% to the house / mamasan.

    After doing porn she can have her own Onlyfan, fancentro etc. Accounts. Markets for de luxe escorts have got a completely new type of competition!

    Really awesome girls, often Czech, Hungarians, Romanians, can, despite of their stunningly appearances, just be number +1000 or higher at xvideos ranking, and +100-+200 in their own rather small countries.

    These girls sems to be short-lived in the industry at the high-end paying market, just a few months or years and then most of them are gone, hardly ever noticed, so their anxiety for being discovered in Colombia / Venezuela or Brazil is probably much more paranoia than reality!

    Their real problem is instead their lack of common-knowledge and in particular absence of even of basic English.

  8. #43343

    Down And Dirty

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    Well there is the view that centro chicas will get more down and dirty as well.
    Not sure exactly what you mean by "down and dirty", but I know a lot of Chica's, regardless of where and how encountered, will get "down and dirty" if that say is bare-backing or anal, and will do so depending on how much there going to be paid, and any past history / comfort level with the guy.

    I think what your eluding to is, how prevalent and / or easy would it be for a guys looking for Chicas who will get down and dirty in El Centro.

    Anything and everything goes in El Centro for a price. And given the dire straits a lot of the Chicas are in who work there, some of them will do just about anything under the sun, but not all of them. And there are so many Chicas working, with many other Chicas they have to compete with for clients, that a guy looking for down and dirty Chicas will have no problem finding them there.

    I remember interviewing a Venezuelan a while back in Centro and was quoted 30 K. Out of curiosity I asked her how much to bare back her, and was told no problem but it would cost more.

    And upon asking how much I was told only 5 K more.

  9. #43342

    Sources suggesting just 1 to 2 week wait for immunity after vaccination

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    There are theories that the vaccines offer no protection for up to 8 months from the time you receive your dose. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?
    Did you come across these theories in any credible journal, news report, medical website? An 8 months lag time twixt injection and protection would be a bummer for sure. I can't speak definitively, but here are two credible sources confirming just a brief, one to two weeks wait for immunity to kick in after being vaccinated, which is consistent with my recollection of mainstream news reports over the last month (BBC, NY Times). The CDC website doesn't seem to include any guidance on this in their FAQs.

    1. "After the required doses, how long until it takes effect and provides protection? That happens "about a week after the second dose," says Naor Bar-Zeev, PhD, an associate professor of international health and vaccinology and deputy director of the International Vaccine Access Center at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. Once the second dose kicks in, both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have shown in studies to be about 95% effective. " Source: https://www.verywellhealth.com/covid...y-time-5091651.

    2. "Pfizer and BioNTech's vaccine offers immunity at least seven days after the second dose, and Moderna's vaccine offers immunity at least 14 days after the second dose. " Source: US Food and Drug Administration Briefing Document, (Pfizer, Dec. 10,2020:https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download ; Moderna, Dec. 17,2020: https://www.fda.gov/media/144434/download..

  10. #43341
    Quote Originally Posted by PolloNegro  [View Original Post]
    One day we will all be able to get along and find some common ground. I am speaking from knowledge, not second hand, I know millionaires who live in the ghetto. Whether you believe it or not. I know guys who are accustomed to a ritzy lifestyle and cannot function in the environment of the ghetto. I know guys who are wealthy who do not care to be wasteful with their cash, because it has become a way of life for them, they will save a quarter because they don't want to spend a dollar.

    I've seen members on this board, specifically say, if you talk about money then you are not wealthy. Many times members have said this. This statement must be a good ole boy statement that belittles people who have more money than the popular guys doing all of the talking. I will say this, it's your money, your time, and your mongering experience so enjoy it, regardless of cost.

    Please allow me to share a story with you about how one of my mongering friends who live in Poblado invited me over to see how beautiful his top notch, high priced girls with the nice make up and nice dresses looked and for me to give him a response of what I thought. After spending 3 hours with one of his beauty queens, he allowed me to speak with her after he had banged her for 2-3 hours in the next room. We spoke and made small talk and shortly thereafter she left. He asked me what did I think of her, and I replied, you paid her so much that she never even solicited me for any of my money! LOL, I just keep it real. I have no reason to lie, I am more than happy with what Parque Botero offers and I have no hate in my heart for guys who spend so much money that the girl forgets to ask the really rich man in the room does he want a date!! So with that being said, money will not make you comfortable in Poblado and living and socializing in Centro does not make you poor, but carry on board members, the money posts are keeping me entertained until I return! Pollo Negro is out!
    To put it differently. Price is what you pay and value is what you get. The two are not always correlated. True in mongering as in many inefficient and opaque markets in life. Its each guys right to do as he wishes, but cultivating a good relationship with the chica and paying a fair price is a solid and sensible and arguably even safer way to monger. But yeah there are definitely mongers who fly in from NY pay the chica an ungodly (for Colombia) amount of money and have the effect of taking that chica out of commission for a few weeks. I know atleast one chica who is in that boat, she is not too high volume, but does it to augment her income as a house cleaner where she gets paid 80mil per day with 2-3 days work a week. We are more like friends now and when she tells me what some of these mongers paid, I tell her good for her as she got her payday. But as someone mentioned these chicas are such crappy budgeters, that even 7 Million will be gone in a month! And they are back. BTW that's what a monger just paid her for a week in Cartagena recently. Do the math and you realize the dude paid her what she would take more than 8months to earn in a week.

  11. #43340

    Touche'

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    Well there is the view that centro chicas will get more down and dirty as well.
    I have done super hot blue eyed blondes for $500 usd and left feeling quite disappointed, conversely I have done $5 putas that have blown my mind.

    Some fools pay for an illusion, I'm not out to mind fuck myself.

    I want all BBFS include DT anal rimming swallow, true PSE on steroids for the price of lunch at mcds LOL.

  12. #43339
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    There are theories that the vaccines offer no protection for up to 8 months from the time you receive your dose. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?
    There are other statements that say that Pfizer / Moderna offer 3 to 6 months protection against severe disease starting from two-three weeks after the second jab. Other available vaccines may offer up to two years, but you have to take them specifically. You can get more info at the FDA website. I'm not in a medical field.

  13. #43338
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    The truth of the matter is that the Centro rats on this board are probably the most wealthy members of this group and some them do live in Poblado Penthouses and source 30 K dates from El Centro. Perhaps this is conceptually hard for many to relate to in that why would a guy living in a luxury Penthouse go on 30 K dates?
    I bet they take metro to the Centro. I have a rule of the thumb theory that one pays a girl exact fare he pays a day for a hotel. Others may still have the same budget but overspend on lodging as opposite to girls. Other may look in the Centro for certain things they can't procure in Poblado or don't want their friends to know.

  14. #43337
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    The truth of the matter is that the Centro rats on this board are probably the most wealthy members of this group and some them do live in Poblado Penthouses and source 30 K dates from El Centro. Perhaps this is conceptually hard for many to relate to in that why would a guy living in a luxury Penthouse go on 30 K dates?
    Well there is the view that centro chicas will get more down and dirty as well.

  15. #43336
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Good hotel choice Zona Rosa, it's my go to Hotel and the room you were in has a good view of the courtyard of the Veracruz Church. You were in my favorite room which I have probably been in at least 100 times over the last four years. I prefer this Hotel over Premier Plaza due to it's more obscure entrance. As far as the Vennie, what a piece of shit trying to upsell you and then ask for a propina. If she had had any brains she would of done what you requested and earned a tip. I know your Spanish skills are limited as you previously mentioned and it can be challenging not being able to interview and converse with the girls but don't despair you will find some nice girls. What I can tell you though is don't get to wrapped up in the lookers, they think their shit doesn't stink and typically give shitty service.
    I remember a lot of you guys mentioning that hotel. It was actually the girl with the other BM that wanted it because she didn't have cedula and we were literally outside of it. I know what you mean by the lookers but I feel even without the language you'll either get good vibes or not from a girl and that's what I normally go with. We were about to head back so I literally just grabbed the venny quickly as she was already outside the hotel and I was sex starved for the last few days, but yeah as with a lot of them dumb as rock she could have earned a nice propina.

    I've been talking to a few of them via translator on what's app over the last few days. I know I'll get good service from them because they have good attitudes and I get good vibes from them and I've already made it clear exactly what I want and they've promised to deliver, let's see.

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