Medellin Reports

[Mr Enternational]

I don't think Mr. E is unaware of this "trick" by the banks. Rather I believe he is surprised that it happens in Colombia. I saw this conversion screen for the first time at the end of last year and it has spread to more banks this year. Overall it is a relatively new thing in Colombia. Yes these conversion offers are total bullshit.

Exactly. This is my 3rd time here this year and I had never seen it before last night. Matter of fact I went to Colpatria first. Put my card in and it asks Spanish or English. Pressed both buttons and inserted my card multiple times and it would not get past that screen. Then I went to Davivienda and that machine would only allow a withdrawl of 300,000. By the time I got to the Banco de Bogota machine I was frustrated and just wanted to get some money out quickly. In that state I could have easily missed what was going on, but I caught it and decided to pass the word along so other people will have their eyes open.

[Mr Enternational]

You do not use the common terms that most usually use. Also you use them to describe your experience like you have not experienced them. "Videoconference" is just one example.

That is what I was saying before. Videoconference is a term used in a formal workplace. And to have to schedule this like a formal job? Hey ho. Thursday at 1630 we will be having a videoconference and I expect you to be there and to have made all the necessary preparations. Who does that? Then he was like she missed the videoconference. Like uh oh, dereliction of duty. She is about to get put on probation. Never answered why he could not just tell her to turn on her cam all the other times he was sending messages with her. Like it is some big to do. Takes all of 30 seconds to turn on the cam and verify that is the person you are really talking to. I have nothing against him. It is just odd.

[Kazeu]

I don't think Mr. E is unaware of this "trick" by the banks. Rather I believe he is surprised that it happens in Colombia. I saw this conversion screen for the first time at the end of last year and it has spread to more banks this year. Overall it is a relatively new thing in Colombia. Yes these conversion offers are total bullshit.

Mr. E, I am frankly surprised of your surprise! You have travelled all around the world, and I understand you are expert of all pitfalls we may encounter in travelling.

You discovered the obvious, sorry to tell you that. ANYWHERE in the world, NEVER accept conversion by the ATM of the local currency to your account currency. It is near to be a scam, but they present it as "so you know for sure how much you will be charged on your bank account". ALWAYS withdraw an amount specified in the local currency. In your bank account, you will be charged the amount in local currency (e.g., COP) converted to your currency (e.g., USD) at the international interbank rate (you see it on XE.COM or Yahoo Finance) plus some 1.5% fee charged by the international circuit (most commonly Maestro/MasterCard or VISA) plus some fixed fee your bank may charge (some banks waive that).
As it was stated many times in the board, if you avoid currency conversion by the ATM, withdrawing money from ATMs can be more convenient than changing cash.

The same holds when you pay with your credit card. In many countries (and Colombia is one of those), the paying device has an option "accept conversion to EUR (or USD, whatever is your native currency) YES / NO". NEVER accept conversion. ALWAYS pay in COP. The nasty point is that many waiters in restaurants do not understand the difference and will select YES for you, thinking to do a favour to the customer. Always check and be sure they select NO. Sometimes, I had a strong discussion with the cashier in various places, even in places as Carbon de Palo supposed to be used to deal with foreigners, and I was rerely able to convince them that if they select YES I am going to pay some significant extra money to the bank.

It is good you raised this point, as many people are totally unaware of this.

[Nounce]

Well I see this post is not arguing but more just talking. So I could participate in this civil conversation. Yes good point I think the seeking app has a videoconference feature and it may have been recently added. I'm not sure. What's app video is better.

You do not use the common terms that most usually use. Also you use them to describe your experience like you have not experienced them. "Videoconference" is just one example. You also explain things in general and not talk about Medellin so that kind of lost the relevance. My SA experience is very different from yours. I have talked to many Medellin girls on Medellin and they all know why they are on the site even for some that are just exploring. if you have talked to Medellin girls, you will know the more common terms even after translator.

[Knowledge]

I am confused by the terms "Colombian gringo" and "non-pro", especially "non-pro". Is non-pro a way to say you are a non-punter?

I arrived Wednesday and now have one more day until I leave on Monday. It has been a good trip. I do not have a lot to report, as the girls I've seen are non-pros, with the exception of one. I had to work hard to cultivate some of them, but it's paid off. Found a new one. She just turned 18 about two months ago. Nice.

Lots of girls still working hard to get dates. I told almost none of them that I am here, but somehow the word leaks out and the messages start flowing.

I went out last night with a fellow monger for some drinks at Lleras Park. He and his friend had invited about 10-12 girls. Obviously all of them were putas. I had been with one of the before, and she looked the best. She works out a lot! A couple of the others are friends of mine on facebook, but I've never pulled them.

Lleras Park got closed down early (at 11? Think they had too many customers. So we went to the Casa Blanca in Prado. What a dump. Used to be a low-end strip club. Now it's just a local bar with working girls hanging out. But it stays open late. I was the only gringo in the place (my fellow monger is a gringo Colombian). Never worried about my safety inside. Good distancing..

[Knowledge]

Correct. The ATMs of several banks in Colombia have for years now been presenting the foreign currency conversion option to people who use cards issued by foreign banks. Decline that option 100% of the time and there will be no problems.

Mr. E, I am frankly surprised of your surprise! You have travelled all around the world, and I understand you are expert of all pitfalls we may encounter in travelling.

You discovered the obvious, sorry to tell you that. ANYWHERE in the world, NEVER accept conversion by the ATM of the local currency to your account currency. It is near to be a scam, but they present it as "so you know for sure how much you will be charged on your bank account". ALWAYS withdraw an amount specified in the local currency. In your bank account, you will be charged the amount in local currency (e.g., COP) converted to your currency (e.g., USD) at the international interbank rate (you see it on XE.COM or Yahoo Finance) plus some 1.5% fee charged by the international circuit (most commonly Maestro/MasterCard or VISA) plus some fixed fee your bank may charge (some banks waive that).
As it was stated many times in the board, if you avoid currency conversion by the ATM, withdrawing money from ATMs can be more convenient than changing cash.

The same holds when you pay with your credit card. In many countries (and Colombia is one of those), the paying device has an option "accept conversion to EUR (or USD, whatever is your native currency) YES / NO". NEVER accept conversion. ALWAYS pay in COP. The nasty point is that many waiters in restaurants do not understand the difference and will select YES for you, thinking to do a favour to the customer. Always check and be sure they select NO. Sometimes, I had a strong discussion with the cashier in various places, even in places as Carbon de Palo supposed to be used to deal with foreigners, and I was rerely able to convince them that if they select YES I am going to pay some significant extra money to the bank..

[NormalAsianKid]

Anyone got a good full service massage place they'd recommend? Was going to try energy but they are closed on Sundays.

[Black Page]

A buddy of mine tried that with a chick from the Philippines. It took him 10 years and quite a bit of money for her to get a visa to the US. However, once she came to the US, my friend could not wait to send her back to the PI after a short stay. She was very disappointed, as she thought they were going to get married.

Well, I am not surprised or her disappointment! He spent TEN YEARS AND QUITE A BIT OF MONEY to give her a visa, and she should think that all this was for a short tour to see USA?? Seriously?

[Black Page]

I arrived in Bogota tonight and went to the Banco de Bogota ATM in the airport. It seems these mfs have start trying to pull a trick that a few banks in Thailand have been doing the past couple of years. You key in how much money you want then it pops up on the screen an amount with them offering to exchange your currency to pesos. ALWAYS SELECT NO unless you like getting fucked instead of doing the fucking. They will charge you 7% exchange on top of the 13,000 fee if you select yes. When you select no the money just comes out normal and you get the rate that your home bank is giving you.

Mr. E, I am frankly surprised of your surprise! You have travelled all around the world, and I understand you are expert of all pitfalls we may encounter in travelling.

You discovered the obvious, sorry to tell you that. ANYWHERE in the world, NEVER accept conversion by the ATM of the local currency to your account currency. It is near to be a scam, but they present it as "so you know for sure how much you will be charged on your bank account". ALWAYS withdraw an amount specified in the local currency. In your bank account, you will be charged the amount in local currency (e.g., COP) converted to your currency (e.g., USD) at the international interbank rate (you see it on XE.COM or Yahoo Finance) plus some 1.5% fee charged by the international circuit (most commonly Maestro/MasterCard or VISA) plus some fixed fee your bank may charge (some banks waive that).
As it was stated many times in the board, if you avoid currency conversion by the ATM, withdrawing money from ATMs can be more convenient than changing cash.

The same holds when you pay with your credit card. In many countries (and Colombia is one of those), the paying device has an option "accept conversion to EUR (or USD, whatever is your native currency) YES / NO". NEVER accept conversion. ALWAYS pay in COP. The nasty point is that many waiters in restaurants do not understand the difference and will select YES for you, thinking to do a favour to the customer. Always check and be sure they select NO. Sometimes, I had a strong discussion with the cashier in various places, even in places as Carbon de Palo supposed to be used to deal with foreigners, and I was rerely able to convince them that if they select YES I am going to pay some significant extra money to the bank.

It is good you raised this point, as many people are totally unaware of this.

[JjBee62]

It may not be possible for the guard to deny entry, unless there is some sort of Legal justification?

These doorman are actually policeman. They have their uniform on. Depending on what you want the best may be an apartment building with a police man at the gate. Preferably with cameras. These guards are allowed to ask for the ID and write down the ID number of the girl. Security is good because the newspaperr report that these girls going to the apartment drug the guy in the apartment and then steal all his belongings and Steel all his credit cards. A few posts ago someone mentioned that the monger was eating and singing Beatles songs in his apartment With the girl and the next thing he knew he woke up druged. Also tell the security guard that you will walk the girl out of the building. And if the girl leaves alone there could be something wrong and he maay agree to go knock at your door to see if you're okay.

But if you prefer something more discrete Well then.

Let me correct this.

The porteros are not policemen. They have no connection to the Colombian national police. They work for a private security company. The job description is unarmed security guard. One of their duties is to control building access.

How they control access depends on the building and sometimes on the apartment. Some buildings check the seeédula. Some make copies or write down the info. Some will call to tell you you have a visitor. Some have an intercom system. Some limit the number of visitors or the time when they are allowed.

If you are going through Airbnb, read carefully and ask about the visitor policy. Better yet go through one of the companies that cater to mongers.

[MarquisdeSade1]

I arrived in Bogota tonight and went to the Banco de Bogota ATM in the airport. It seems these mfs have start trying to pull a trick that a few banks in Thailand have been doing the past couple of years. You key in how much money you want then it pops up on the screen an amount with them offering to exchange your currency to pesos. ALWAYS SELECT NO unless you like getting fucked instead of doing the fucking. They will charge you 7% exchange on top of the 13,000 fee if you select yes. When you select no the money just comes out normal and you get the rate that your home bank is giving you.

They got me in the lobby in Sharks in Darmstadt, I know it was way more than 7%, they got me good.

I typically know better, I should of had enough loot, but I took some puta to a room, and we did a bunch of upcharges and she.

Needed all my euros and then some more, so I had to use the ATM, I'm standing in the lobby in a towel with her freaking out that I didn't have enough cash LOL.

I wasn't paying attention it was 2am I was tired and they got me good on like 500 E.

[Mr Enternational]

I arrived in Bogota tonight and went to the Banco de Bogota ATM in the airport. It seems these mfs have start trying to pull a trick that a few banks in Thailand have been doing the past couple of years. You key in how much money you want then it pops up on the screen an amount with them offering to exchange your currency to pesos. ALWAYS SELECT NO unless you like getting fucked instead of doing the fucking. They will charge you 7% exchange on top of the 13,000 fee if you select yes. When you select no the money just comes out normal and you get the rate that your home bank is giving you.

[Forever18]

I arrived Wednesday and now have one more day until I leave on Monday. It has been a good trip. I do not have a lot to report, as the girls I've seen are non-pros, with the exception of one. I had to work hard to cultivate some of them, but it's paid off. Found a new one. She just turned 18 about two months ago. Nice.

Lots of girls still working hard to get dates. I told almost none of them that I am here, but somehow the word leaks out and the messages start flowing.

I went out last night with a fellow monger for some drinks at Lleras Park. He and his friend had invited about 10-12 girls. Obviously all of them were putas. I had been with one of the before, and she looked the best. She works out a lot! A couple of the others are friends of mine on facebook, but I've never pulled them.

Lleras Park got closed down early (at 11? Think they had too many customers. So we went to the Casa Blanca in Prado. What a dump. Used to be a low-end strip club. Now it's just a local bar with working girls hanging out. But it stays open late. I was the only gringo in the place (my fellow monger is a gringo Colombian). Never worried about my safety inside. Good distancing. Doormen handle the taxis. Girls got ripped. With booze and tussi. Got some nice grinding in with a couple of the betters one, but had already decided I was not pulling anyone since I had a 10 am Cita. Got a few numbers for next time. I'm not into tussi or other drugs, so that was a turn off. But if I'm going to fuck them for a few hours in a controlled environment (my apartment), that won't be an issue..

I know you mentioned the girls are nonpro except one, do they ask you for money after the intimate encounter or they just want to be around you because you are a foreigner with character?

[ColombiaLover]

I arrived Wednesday and now have one more day until I leave on Monday. It has been a good trip. I do not have a lot to report, as the girls I've seen are non-pros, with the exception of one. I had to work hard to cultivate some of them, but it's paid off. Found a new one. She just turned 18 about two months ago. Nice.

Lots of girls still working hard to get dates. I told almost none of them that I am here, but somehow the word leaks out and the messages start flowing.

I went out last night with a fellow monger for some drinks at Lleras Park. He and his friend had invited about 10-12 girls. Obviously all of them were putas. I had been with one of the before, and she looked the best. She works out a lot! A couple of the others are friends of mine on facebook, but I've never pulled them.

Lleras Park got closed down early (at 11? Think they had too many customers. So we went to the Casa Blanca in Prado. What a dump. Used to be a low-end strip club. Now it's just a local bar with working girls hanging out. But it stays open late. I was the only gringo in the place (my fellow monger is a gringo Colombian). Never worried about my safety inside. Good distancing. Doormen handle the taxis. Girls got ripped. With booze and tussi. Got some nice grinding in with a couple of the betters one, but had already decided I was not pulling anyone since I had a 10 am Cita. Got a few numbers for next time. I'm not into tussi or other drugs, so that was a turn off. But if I'm going to fuck them for a few hours in a controlled environment (my apartment), that won't be an issue.

Trying to figure out which two to see tomowwo. Have to make the best of it.

[ColombiaLover]

Totally agree. I know a chica who is well known to many on this board. She co-owns her little house with her mom. But she obviously has not legitimate job, she does not study, and she has no proof of any income. She, like many, used a visa service who lied for her. Putting her address in a better barrio, claiming she had a job, etc. But she still got denied. Despite the attempt at fraud.

There are a few chicas in Medellin who have a tourist visa for the USA Facebook girls. I cannot recall who, other than Maroly Garcia who has traveled to the USA Often (she had some gringo with contacts in the USA Government help her out).

The chances of an unemployed young female Colombian, with no family in the US, granted a tourist visa to come to the US is virtually zero. And it would take a lot of time and money to discover she is denied.