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  1. #40360

    Jajaja

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Not overly dramatic, it's a simple tool of logic. You apply the same premise to relatable situations in order to illustrate the fallacy.

    The original fallacy was that paying for something, when something similar is free indicates a person has almost no self-esteem.

    On the surface, most people should recognize how silly that is. However, this is ISG and for some reason there are a lot of members who can't manage basic math, let alone understand semantics.

    Which means it's necessary to go to extremes to illustrate a point here.

    Whether or not you pay for something, or how much you pay is no indication of your self-esteem.

    Blakman spends much less than Slapshot. Slapshot spends much less than SJobs. Who has the highest self-esteem?.
    Your attempts at sophistry make me embarrassed for you, the way you buy photo and video, please tell me you aren't also one of those people that paid for an online from China?

  2. #40359

    Not so Clever Chica

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Too many facebook chicas in need of money at the moment. I don't have enough time for them. I mostly ignore them. Had one over here yesterday. Young 22 year old paisa in need of some cash. Gave her 100 k + 20 k taxi.
    Just wanted to add, that during negociations this same chica asked me if I would pay for her taxi. I asked where do you live and how much it would be. She told me she lived in Castilla and said it would be 20 k each way. I looked up Castilla in google maps and then sent her a screen shot of a Cabify quote saying it would be less than 9 k for a ride to castilla. I said I would give her 20 k taxi total. She said "Okay, when should I come over?

    Keep in mind also that after the session finished I did indeed give her 20 k and also walked her to the metro. This taxi bullshit is just another way to get money out of you. LOL. Generally she was pretty cool and it was a good session. So I wasn't upset or anything. I found it funny more than anything.

  3. #40358

    FB Process

    Quote Originally Posted by Blakman  [View Original Post]
    How do you seek out these girls. Is there a search group? This is the only area I am not versed on. I did get with one. But most girls friend list is private. At least that's what I experience.

    .
    No there is no group that you need to sign up for. What you need is an IN to the network. Like you said some of the girls have a private friend list but not all. But you don't just look at a girls friends. You can also look at a girls followers. Just keep going around until you find 1 person that has an open friend list. Once you have one person that lives in medellin with an open friend list you're in. It doesn't really have to be a girl. It can also be a guy. Make sure the person is listed as living in medellin. Then you go to his friend list and click "Current City", that gives you all of his friends that also live in medellin. Start adding all the slutty girls that you see in the list, but also keep a lookout for rando guys in the list that have open friend lists that you can come back to after you finish with the current list. Also keep a lookout for girls with open friends list. The important thing is that all these people are all in medellin. Eventually you'll have enough friends in the network that you'll start seeing some people with a decent amount of mutual friends. These are gold. Make sure you check if they have open friend lists. And repeat the same process over and over again until you have a decent amount of medellin chica friends. Eventually you can stop mining friend lists and just work through the people that facebook suggests you add.

    One thing to keep in mind, you'll probably have a better rate of acceptance if you actually have a facebook profile with stuff in it. Pictures. Posts. Etc. I hate friend requests from people with rando images as their profile pics who haven't posted anything ever.

    Good luck and have fun. Never give up! Never surrender!

  4. #40357

    Over-compensating

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Not overly dramatic, it's a simple tool of logic. You apply the same premise to relatable situations in order to illustrate the fallacy.

    The original fallacy was that paying for something, when something similar is free indicates a person has almost no self-esteem.

    On the surface, most people should recognize how silly that is. However, this is ISG and for some reason there are a lot of members who can't manage basic math, let alone understand semantics.

    Which means it's necessary to go to extremes to illustrate a point here.

    Whether or not you pay for something, or how much you pay is no indication of your self-esteem.

    Blakman spends much less than Slapshot. Slapshot spends much less than SJobs. Who has the highest self-esteem?.
    I cannot say whom it is that has the highest but I believe it is safe to say we all know whom it is with the lowest, he writes like he is trying to impress strangers on the internets.

    Whether or not his exploits are fiction or not I do not know, but people with low self-esteem try very hard to convince themselves and others they really aren't inferior.

    I saw many guys in Moscow strip clubs with Armani suits you won't see me buying, yes I would say they have low self esteem.

    If I had the money they had you would never see me in Scs throwing money around trying to impress putas and men you will never see again.

  5. #40356
    Quote Originally Posted by Forever18  [View Original Post]
    I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?
    Don't do this it sounds dangerous. Only have an overnight with a girl that has a long thread of positive reviews from her clients. After reading her performance reviews you will feel she's an honest hard worker. What if she is a criminal and does something to you while you're sleeping.

  6. #40355

    Good advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Take the advice of the other members of the board. Do not take a girl you've never met for TLN. Whether 350 k is a good deal, depends on you and the girl. Do you like spending tiime with her? Is she really good looking?

    Theres a lot of things that can go wrong if you've never met the girl before. You don't know her or what she's like. Even with pictures, you don't know if she's put on some weight since the pictures or she wears tons of makeup. Maybe she's really bitchy. Or your personalities clash, theres just too much chance to plop down the extra money for TLN for a first meet. Tell you what. Invite her over for a couple of hours at say 150 k. And have session and if you guys hit it off, tell her to stay for the rest of the night for an additional 150 k or whatever numbers make sense for you. Easier to extend a session than it is to cut a session short. If you cut you're TLN session short just because you aren't feeling it, she's still going to expect the 350 k.
    Great tip, I was never a fan with Todo Noche, even if I liked the girl. Jaja not because of the money either. I like to sleep alone, fart if I want and SSS in the morning when I'm ready. When I first got into this hobby years ago A wise old monger once told me, "you pay them to leave" good advice.

  7. #40354

    Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Sure, there's going to be a effect on the market, but it's far from significant. For every girl I see selling pics and videos, I see a girl who now has an online store. They're selling everything from ice cream to butt plugs. I know one, who I met through another prepago, who was selling videos. She got into the habit of making surprise video calls to me whenever her boyfriend was out of the house. I couldn't even message her because he would get violent if he was around. She would just occasionally message me and ask for $10-$20 for the 5 or 6 video calls she had already made.

    Finally she broke up with him and got her own place. She now has a drink cart she runs in the park in Bello at night, plus an online store selling lingerie, plus an online store selling sex toys and she's still selling her pussy and probably videos as well. Once she started asking me for advice on various things, she stopped asking for money, but she still sends little video clips or hits me with a video call.

    Maybe her price has gone up. I haven't asked. But I bet I will be in for 200k or less when I hit town.

    If you're into that sort of thing, she's one of the few younger chicas I've seen with a full Bush. Big tits, pretty face. If you're in town and interested I will pass along her contact info. Better get her before I get there, because I will have her shave that Bush off.
    Thats the one thing I'm NOT into. Hairy bushes. I prefer my girls hairless. I'm used to asian chicas with smooth skin and much less hair than their colombian counterparts. In one of my other posts I mentioned there was one chica in santa fe I tried to session with and the hair on her lower back completely ruined doggie style as well as the whole experience for me. Once of the few sessions I couldn't finish in.

  8. #40353

    Don't do overnights with unknown girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Forever18  [View Original Post]
    I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?
    Take the advice of the other members of the board. Do not take a girl you've never met for TLN. Whether 350 k is a good deal, depends on you and the girl. Do you like spending tiime with her? Is she really good looking?

    Theres a lot of things that can go wrong if you've never met the girl before. You don't know her or what she's like. Even with pictures, you don't know if she's put on some weight since the pictures or she wears tons of makeup. Maybe she's really bitchy. Or your personalities clash, theres just too much chance to plop down the extra money for TLN for a first meet. Tell you what. Invite her over for a couple of hours at say 150 k. And have session and if you guys hit it off, tell her to stay for the rest of the night for an additional 150 k or whatever numbers make sense for you. Easier to extend a session than it is to cut a session short. If you cut you're TLN session short just because you aren't feeling it, she's still going to expect the 350 k.

  9. #40352
    - From life experience I think it's true to say most professional athletes will fail. Just like people in the music industry say you can be a great musician and they have made great music but they never received monetary compensation.

    -So sure dream big, go play sports, try to make a record, but also focus on the jobs that you can take in that industry that can sustain your lifetime for example can you be a coach and assistant can you get involved in the business of sport?

    The 1st lesson in business is 90% of all startups fail. Learn this fact in a book or university. Therefore it could be fair to say without researching that perhaps only 10% of WebCam girls will make a meaningful income, and it's probably even less because that is usually how life is.

    So to say WebCam girls will make Middle-class income buy houses and pay for university sound Unlikely. Some advice for a WebCam girl would be find the a profession with opportunities for growth where you can work and grind it out for lifetime. And then 3 nights a week try to get the web cam thing going, but you should know that statistically speaking you probably won't make more than a little bit for beer money.

  10. #40351
    I agree that it is better to try her out first. That said, I'm not a big TLN guy. I like my sleep. And when I do TLN, I do it with my chicas who are not being paid. If you have the ability to fuck multiple times during the night, then this may make sense for you. Bang her before you go to sleep, during the night, and first thing in the morning. But be clear she's up for that. And that she knows you might wake her up in the middle of the night for sex. Some girls think TLN is once before bed and once in the morning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    For you? No, not at all. I suggest a short-time visit (1-2 hours for 150 k-200 k) first to see how she is. If she's good and you get along, then do an overnight. That way if she's lousy, you limit your losses in both time and money.

    If you haven't been with this chica before, there's a roughly 50% chance that she looks at her phone at 1 or 2 AM and says there's an emergency and that she has to leave. Which makes it a fantastic deal for her.

  11. #40350
    Quote Originally Posted by Forever18  [View Original Post]
    I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?
    For you? No, not at all. I suggest a short-time visit (1-2 hours for 150 k-200 k) first to see how she is. If she's good and you get along, then do an overnight. That way if she's lousy, you limit your losses in both time and money.

    If you haven't been with this chica before, there's a roughly 50% chance that she looks at her phone at 1 or 2 AM and says there's an emergency and that she has to leave. Which makes it a fantastic deal for her.

  12. #40349
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I've seen younger Colombian guys wearing shorts. Not often. But someone 45 or older? Very rare, except for gringos.
    I love how far down the rabbit hole we have all gone regarding shorts.

    I'm going to buy a new pair of shorts, specially to wear for my trip to MDE in a couple months. I will wear them the entire trip, except when going to nightclubs (as they will likely require pants for admittance).

  13. #40348
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Too many facebook chicas in need of money at the moment. I don't have enough time for them. I mostly ignore them. Had one over here yesterday. Young 22 year old paisa in need of some cash. Gave her 100 k + 20 k taxi.
    I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?

  14. #40347

    Funny you should say that because

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    Nov 2018 I went to Moscow for my bday, I had never tried SA before, well Moscow is a very tough town to monger, so I thought I would try SA within 1-2 hours a few girls including an African sent me messages.

    I asked how much most said either $1500 or $2000 for 2 hrs, I laughed and responded OK, 2000 or 1500 rubles, they immediately blocked me, 2 or 3 hrs later I was blocked from SA.

    Someone must of reported me, and SA kicked me off and gave me a refund.
    I always have this image that Russian cam girls are sex slaves to the Russian Mafia. When a cam model she says she is from Moscow or the Ukraine (whether or not she is telling the truth, who knows) I always get the feeling there is big, burly, Russian Mafia guy in the Room hovering nearby, ready to hit her with a rubber hose, even typing the answers for her. When her hands don't move near a keyboard but there are replies on the screen, someone is typing, jaja. Could be my mind playing tricks because I axed a Russian girl one time who was in the Room with her and she flashed the camera around the entire room, and she was alone, jajaja.

  15. #40346
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Don't take offense. He just gets overly dramatic about anything he can. Its just his style. The best thing about the board is that you can see how other people monger and do their thing. Whether or not you follow their lead is up to you.
    Not overly dramatic, it's a simple tool of logic. You apply the same premise to relatable situations in order to illustrate the fallacy.

    The original fallacy was that paying for something, when something similar is free indicates a person has almost no self-esteem.

    On the surface, most people should recognize how silly that is. However, this is ISG and for some reason there are a lot of members who can't manage basic math, let alone understand semantics.

    Which means it's necessary to go to extremes to illustrate a point here.

    Whether or not you pay for something, or how much you pay is no indication of your self-esteem.

    Blakman spends much less than Slapshot. Slapshot spends much less than SJobs. Who has the highest self-esteem?

    Last year in Medellin, I stayed in a great 3 bedroom apartment, 10 days, for free. What does that tell you about my self-esteem? A month ago I sent a girl $20 for 3 minutes of badly lit video shot with a cheap phone. 5 minute ago A much better looking girl sent me 3 minutes of video, with excellent lighting, shot with her iPhone X, completely free. Did my self-esteem change?

    If the logic confuses you, your local university offers courses.

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