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  1. #40285
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    I have at least 15 boxes of 4 x50 MG Sildenafil Genfar
    I remember the limit is 50 pills. I used to print out the custom rules to carry with me so I can show it the custom official. This topic has been discussed in great detail before in Tijuna forum.

  2. #40284

    Yes, but.

    Quote Originally Posted by HuskerDude  [View Original Post]
    Being a pharmacist, I say the generic drugs are the way to go. The active ingredient of both the generic & band name drugs are made in the same place. The active ingredient is then sent to the various manufacturers, where they stamp out the pills or make into capsules.
    Active ingredients may be the same but binders are different and therefore absorption and effects. Plus generics have less stringent manufacturing tolerances so each pill can vary in strength more than brand. Case in point, my thyroid meds. Brand name only or I am not right and blood tests aren't either.

  3. #40283
    Penicillin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blakman  [View Original Post]
    I did it with 3 out of 60 girls last trip. First chick my mind just said you have to f*ck her raw. No kids and beautiful tits. Second time the girl was one of the best I ever been with sexually and it was free LOL. 3rd time I was not going to bareback then my 8 said just don't cum in me. I was like wow this beautiful girl said its okay to fuck her raw I must obliged. For some reason I wasnt concerned about the 8. But I was concern about first 2 even though it was a non payment arrangement. I did buy penicillin to be on the safe side. Anyways soon as I reach the states I took covid and hiv, std test and negative. I will say there was quite a few I wanted to go raw but chose not to..

  4. #40282

    Sorry dude, patently not true

    Quote Originally Posted by HuskerDude  [View Original Post]
    Being a pharmacist, I say the generic drugs are the way to go. The active ingredient of both the generic & band name drugs are made in the same place. The active ingredient is then sent to the various manufacturers, where they stamp out the pills or make into capsules.
    I don't know how much of what you say happens, that the ORIGINAL manufacturer is selling the active ingredient to ALL the generic suppliers? There are plenty of generic drug companies making their own drug de novo all over the world.

    Even if what you say is true, you supported my argument. As I pointed out, it is the excipients, binders and manufacturing process that makes the difference. Not the milligrams of active drug. Don't ever become a lawyer, when your argument supports the other guy, jajajaja.

  5. #40281

    You can have the last word if you wish

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    All that you say can be true, but again if the manufacturer is a well reputed industry the molecule of the active principle is the same, the quantity of the active principle is the declared amount within tolerance margins, and the excipients of course do not have to be exactly the same to not impair the drug effectiveness. We are speaking about sildenafil, not a psychoactive drug with effects sensitive to microvariations in dosage!

    You should be more concerned about how the boxes of "authentic Viagra" were stored on their way from the industry to the farmacy to your hands, in what conditions and temperature, than about possible low quality of MK or Genfar products.

    Indeed this can be considered close to a scam, forcing the people to pay more without necessity. It should be "do not substitute with a dubious product"!

    In my country (a major country in Europe) it is simply NOT LEGAL to sell any generic which is not 100% equivalent to the original. I assume this is obvious in any country except in the 4th world. A drug which does not pass a strict verification process is not authorized for sale.c.
    I am glad guys don't get into degrees, background, education, academics, training, etc. Just like when you publish a research paper in a peer reviewed journal, you don't list your degrees, just your last name and first initials, and let the words speak for themselves. I am not trying to convince you of anything, but making sure the other readers don't get a one-sided story. Generic drugs are one of the biggest smoke screens in US Healthcare all because of what? The almighty dollar. Health insurance companies use generics to save billions of dollars on their formularies. A lot of that is good. But until you understand the pharmacology, calculus, pharmacokinetics, and pharmacodynamics, AND pharmacoeconomics, then you cannot understand this issue. Sorry for the "big" words but it's a fact. I have sat in a room and watched slide after slide, over one hundred, of the bioavailability curves for the brand and "equivalent" generic drugs and the curves are so different they are shocking, and in many cases the generic will have lost over 70% of it's therapeutic effect. I judge generics on a drug by drug basis, my background forces me to skeptical. I will admit I have never seen a boiavailability curve for generic Viagra, but I know the generic version me and my buddies tried in Medellin didn't do shit. There is nothing I love more than a good, cheap, generic, but don't blindly accept them all on face value, which was your viewpoint when this discussion started.

  6. #40280
    Quote Originally Posted by GringoTrooper  [View Original Post]
    Just a heads up, bringing any pharmaceuticals back from Colombia to the states is a felony.
    Not really. You can bring almost anything as long as it is not an illegal narcotic and you declare it. You run into problems when you don't declare shit. Same with money. Get caught with over $10,000 that you did not declare and that is when you have problems. For medicine it is supposed to be in the original container and you are supposed to have a prescription for it. As long as you are not trying to bring a suitcase full of viagra. They will not fuck with you for a couple months supply. I know some people that got fucked bringing in massive amounts of steroids. I bring in viagra, asthma medicine, blood pressure medicine, penicillin, cough syrup etc and have never had a problem without having a prescription. Now if your ass want to try to bring in valium then you are on your own.

  7. #40279

    To Bareback Or Not To Bareback It's A Conundrum

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    Without criticizing, just out of curiosity for those guys who claim they go bareback, which means penetrating vagina Without a condom, What do you think about catching sexually-transmitted diseases?

    Apparently there are entire forums devoted to bareback activities. Which is unexpected considering everybody Has been told in school never to take the condom off. I just want to know what you guys are thinking when you go bareback.

    There is actually a rule in this form that prevents members criticizing other members not practicing safe sex.
    Nobody wants to catch an STD, and everybody knows what bareback means, and it's not unexpected that there are forums dedicated to barebacking on ISG, regardless of the sex education classes board members had while in junior high school.

    There are a lot of board members who occasionally bareback or exclusively bareback, albeit they are not all going to post about it. As far as what guys are thinking when they have gone bareback, well for some it's the difference between night and day. Sounds like you may have never barebacked someone outside of a monogamaus relationship and might be contemplating it based on your questions. It's a personal choice and comes with risks.

  8. #40278
    Quote Originally Posted by Blakman  [View Original Post]
    I did it with 3 out of 60 girls last trip. First chick my mind just said you have to f*ck her raw. No kids and beautiful tits. Second time the girl was one of the best I ever been with sexually and it was free LOL. 3rd time I was not going to bareback then my 8 said just don't cum in me. I was like wow this beautiful girl said its okay to fuck her raw I must obliged. For some reason I wasnt concerned about the 8. But I was concern about first 2 even though it was a non payment arrangement. I did buy penicillin to be on the safe side. Anyways soon as I reach the states I took covid and hiv, std test and negative. I will say there was quite a few I wanted to go raw but chose not to.
    Nice reply. It reminded me of that famous punchline "hold me back, son hold me back, son. " Sounds kind of like a spontaneous thing. Or when a guy meets a girl and all of a sudden they're both feeling very in love and then suddenly that condom appears to be insignificant because they love each other so much. And then and then and then...
    Only way Is to prepare mentally for these situations before hand.

  9. #40277

    Fair question bareback thoughts

    I did it with 3 out of 60 girls last trip. First chick my mind just said you have to f*ck her raw. No kids and beautiful tits. Second time the girl was one of the best I ever been with sexually and it was free LOL. 3rd time I was not going to bareback then my 8 said just don't cum in me. I was like wow this beautiful girl said its okay to fuck her raw I must obliged. For some reason I wasnt concerned about the 8. But I was concern about first 2 even though it was a non payment arrangement. I did buy penicillin to be on the safe side. Anyways soon as I reach the states I took covid and hiv, std test and negative. I will say there was quite a few I wanted to go raw but chose not to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    Without criticizing, just out of curiosity for those guys who claim they go bareback, which means penetrating vagina Without a condom, What do you think about catching sexually-transmitted diseases?

    Apparently there are entire forums devoted to bareback activities. Which is unexpected considering everybody Has been told in school never to take the condom off. I just want to know what you guys are thinking when you go bareback.

    There is actually a rule in this form that prevents members criticizing other members not practicing safe sex.
    .

  10. #40276
    Quote Originally Posted by GringoTrooper  [View Original Post]
    Just a heads up, bringing any pharmaceuticals back from Colombia to the states is a felony.
    I may or may not have a friend that had an extremely close encounter with customs upon return to the states regarding this same exact situation.
    That is interesting. First, please note I am European. I am not sure if the regulation is the same as in USA, or a bit more lenient.

    Before COVID, in one year I was used to enter USA say 2 times, plus say 3-4 times to Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia (the 3 in each trip), say 2 times to Colombia, Ecuador.

    Whenever the trip is longer than 3-4 days and I have my luggage checked in, I always bring a whole big *BAG* of various drugs in my luggage, to cover most kinds of disease and discomfort I may face overseas, including pain killers, antinflammatory, antibiotics, for sore throat, flue, fever,. Of course I seldom needed them, but if I have a problem I like to have my stuff in my bag at hand, rather than to have to go looking for farmacy.

    Well, outbound in that bag there is always a supply of Sildenafil sufficient for the whole trip duration, and inbound if I come back from Colombia be sure I have at least 15 boxes of 4 x50 MG Sildenafil Genfar (I cut the blisters to make them smallerr and pack them tight together in other boxes, because the original boxes would take too much room). I have never had a single problem with customs. Once they started to look into my drug bag, and from my side it was enough to say they were for my personal usage, because my trip was longer than 1 week.

    To be honest, I could not be sure about what would happen if the customs police identifies 60-80 blue pills with other drugs in my luggage, as I do not have the prescription. However, I have been used to criss-cross borders frantically, and Singapore is usually very strict.

  11. #40275

    Jajaja

    Quote Originally Posted by HuskerDude  [View Original Post]
    Being a pharmacist, I say the generic drugs are the way to go. The active ingredient of both the generic & band name drugs are made in the same place. The active ingredient is then sent to the various manufacturers, where they stamp out the pills or make into capsules.
    Do you seriously think that applies to every country in the world.

  12. #40274
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    The "equivalence" used to tout the non-difference is based on milligram to milligram comparison. There is so much more to it grasshopper, more than I can teach you here. In a nutshell, the excipients, binders, and the manufacturing process can be vastly different. This can (not always) greatly alter the AUC (Area Under the Curve) or the biovavailibility of ANY generic drug. If the peaks and valleys of the curve are not aligned with the brand name drug, the generic can become totally ineffective. This involves time of onset and trough levels needed for a drug to be effective. There are entire seminars on this topic. The information is hard to fine because the public is handed the line that all these drugs are equivalent mainly so formularies of insurance companies can save money. That is not to say that a generic can't be as good as the original. It's possible. But not automatic. If you want empirical evidence, talk to a mom who had her kid's Ritalin or other stimulant med switched without their permission, and the night and day difference it made in behavior of said kid, even thought the drug was the "same. " You were right about one thing, there is a huge psychological component in both directions: being told the generic is just as good; or believing it is inferior because it is generic. Why do you think a standard Rx has a "Do Not Substitute" box on it? Because certain drugs are infamous for being ineffective as generics, and that's when the box gets checked by the prescribing physician.
    Being a pharmacist, I say the generic drugs are the way to go. The active ingredient of both the generic & band name drugs are made in the same place. The active ingredient is then sent to the various manufacturers, where they stamp out the pills or make into capsules.

  13. #40273
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    The "equivalence" used to tout the non-difference is based on milligram to milligram comparison.
    All that you say can be true, but again if the manufacturer is a well reputed industry the molecule of the active principle is the same, the quantity of the active principle is the declared amount within tolerance margins, and the excipients of course do not have to be exactly the same to not impair the drug effectiveness. We are speaking about sildenafil, not a psychoactive drug with effects sensitive to microvariations in dosage!

    You should be more concerned about how the boxes of "authentic Viagra" were stored on their way from the industry to the farmacy to your hands, in what conditions and temperature, than about possible low quality of MK or Genfar products.

    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    Why do you think a standard Rx has a "Do Not Substitute" box on it?
    Indeed this can be considered close to a scam, forcing the people to pay more without necessity. It should be "do not substitute with a dubious product"!

    In my country (a major country in Europe) it is simply NOT LEGAL to sell any generic which is not 100% equivalent to the original. I assume this is obvious in any country except in the 4th world. A drug which does not pass a strict verification process is not authorized for sale.

    I tell you more: here we have a law that obliges the doctors to prescribe the generic, if available, and not explicitely the original, unless the generic is not equivalent. It was done exactly to forbid dishonest doctors to prescribe more expensive products, when equivalent cheaper generic are available, presumably because lured by big farma with gifts etc. In some cases, the public service does not reimbourse original products above the price of the equivalent generic.

  14. #40272
    Without criticizing, just out of curiosity for those guys who claim they go bareback, which means penetrating vagina Without a condom, What do you think about catching sexually-transmitted diseases?

    Apparently there are entire forums devoted to bareback activities. Which is unexpected considering everybody Has been told in school never to take the condom off. I just want to know what you guys are thinking when you go bareback.

    There is actually a rule in this form that prevents members criticizing other members not practicing safe sex.

  15. #40271

    Finally a monger with an IQ over 130 hahaha

    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    The "equivalence" used to tout the non-difference is based on milligram to milligram comparison. There is so much more to it grasshopper, more than I can teach you here. In a nutshell, the excipients, binders, and the manufacturing process can be vastly different. This can (not always) greatly alter the AUC (Area Under the Curve) or the biovavailibility of ANY generic drug. If the peaks and valleys of the curve are not aligned with the brand name drug, the generic can become totally ineffective. This involves time of onset and trough levels needed for a drug to be effective. There are entire seminars on this topic. The information is hard to fine because the public is handed the line that all these drugs are equivalent mainly so formularies of insurance companies can save money. That is not to say that a generic can't be as good as the original. It's possible. But not automatic. If you want empirical evidence, talk to a mom who had her kid's Ritalin or other stimulant med switched without their permission, and the night and day difference it made in behavior of said kid, even thought the drug was the "same. " You were right about one thing, there is a huge psychological component in both directions: being told the generic is just as good; or believing it is inferior because it is generic. Why do you think a standard Rx has a "Do Not Substitute" box on it? Because certain drugs are infamous for being ineffective as generics, and that's when the box gets checked by the prescribing physician.
    Thanks.

    I always request the best.

    I only use name brand meds.

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