Medellin Reports

[Osteoknot]

Considering the huge of number Medellin girls on SA, I'm a little surprised that more people don't have more detailed information.

I guess I will have to come over and explore.

Is because you keep asking questions that others cannot answer for you. You described yourself as being very attractive in Waspy, Anglo-Saxon sort of way. Great. The girls like that down there. That also puts a bullseye on you for more nefarious activities. You sound inexperienced and "lonely" to use your own words. The chicas will smell that like a shark smells blood. I am not trying to scare you off. But take it slow. I would recommend against going down to Medellin with some sort of preconceived master plan of finding a novia for XXX pesos to be your GFE on a monthly basis or whatever it is you are trying to set up. ALL the great girl things that have happened to me in Medellin, and other continents, were more or less unplanned. I was in the right place at the right time. Chance favors the prepared mind. And then you have this theme of trying to cheap out on prices. Do you think that helps your cause? I dunno, maybe you need a wingman or someone who can show you the ropes. I think you are setting yourself up for disappointment and hopefully nothing worse. But don't let me dissuade you. That is the point. You have to make your own way. There are some basic principles but there is not a formula for success and happiness. My best Gringo friend committed suicide in Medellin because he thought he would find all the sex and love he wanted, and when he didn't, and got trapped by the quarantine, it was too depressing for him. That's a real downer to post here but I think it's germane. If you are unhappy where you are now, don't expect Medellin to be some of kind of magic bullet. I was very happy before discovering Medellin, and now I am happier than I have ever been in my entire life. I hope you find what you want, but there is usually no such thing as geographical happiness, short of getting released from prison, jajaja.

[Nounce]

Considering the huge of number Medellin girls on SA, I'm a little surprised that more people don't have more detailed information.

I guess I will have to come over and explore.

That is what I will do and report back to fill in the blanks. You can pay the premium membership fee and chat with girls to make emotional connection now. I think you will have some takers for $100 platonic relationship before your arrival.

[HarryDubois]

Considering the huge of number Medellin girls on SA, I'm a little surprised that more people don't have more detailed information.

I guess I will have to come over and explore.

[Nounce]

I am getting a feeling that rather than $250 a month for a sugar baby, a starting price would be $1000. Is that reasonable? That is still a definite possibility for me. I am talking about using Seeking Arrangement. There seem to be tons of Medellin girls on there now.

I have never asked for full time arrangement so I don't know the rate they are expecting. I suspect for full time arrangement, it may be more of taking care of all her need, or her family, it could cost more, or it could cost less.

For US$1000, you may get 2 or 3 part time arrangements that are a few hours at a time. It's not practical to jump directly to full time arrangement. You can make a part time arrangement to see where it leads. If you do find one with connection, it may cost less than you are expecting.

I guess my feeling is that the difference between a sugar baby and a prostitute is safety. A sugar baby is going to be staying in a nice a condo with a man who she has gotten to know, who is clean (physically and also clean drug wise), polite, non-violent etc. She's not taking much of a risk of being beaten up or ending up with her dismembered torso in dumpster, which I assume is a factor which street walkers have to add into their prices.

Besides that, if she's a "regular" girl, in college for example, there isn't the stigma of walking the streets and being seen by people who know her. She's just hanging out with her American "papi". Maybe a little embarrassing, but no different than Melania Trump.

The problem is there are many people fit that description and are willing to be generous. You are basically dating a girl who has issues so don't expect it to be a simple monetary transaction long term.

Plus you are "buying in bulk" which should get a discount.

To the SB, it may mean a completely different thing which means taking care of her whole family. You can get a discount in that case if you do it for a full year, but probably not one month at a time

What you want is not the norm. Even if it works for someone, it does not mean it will work for you. I think you need to try it to find out on your own.

[HarryDubois]

Where does that feeling come from? A person is more likely to get beat and/or killed by someone they know period. Beating and killing does not draw the line at what kind of dwelling someone stays in and if they wash their ass or not as your feelings are leading you to believe.

Would you really feel safer if your 18 year old daughter were a streetwalker rather than your 18 year old daughter living with her boyfriend? Therefore streetwalkers charge high prices because there are few women who want to do that unless they get paid pretty well.

If woman is with a person whose passport she has a photo of and she has his address and phone number and she's texted all that to her friends and relatives, I think she has better odds of seeing the sun come up than if she just walks off with a total stranger and all the police would have to go on is other hookers saying "She left with some guy with brown hair".

And this is more true once some of her friends and relatives actually meet the guy, as would I think happens in a long term sugar relationship.

[Mr Enternational]

I guess my feeling is that the difference between a sugar baby and a prostitute is safety. A sugar baby is going to be staying in a nice a condo with a man who she has gotten to know, who is clean (physically and also clean drug wise), polite, non-violent etc. She's not taking much of a risk of being beaten up or ending up with her dismembered torso in dumpster, which I assume is a factor which street walkers have to add into their prices.

Where does that feeling come from? A person is more likely to get beat and/or killed by someone they know period. Beating and killing does not draw the line at what kind of dwelling someone stays in and if they wash their ass or not as your feelings are leading you to believe.

I spend $15 on a chick for 1 hour or whatever. You are talking about spending $1000 on a chick for 1 month PLUS all the other expenses you will incur due to her being with you. Seems like you would be more likely to do beating and killing than I would be. I am only there long enough for the fucking then it is hug and see you next time. You are there seeing all of her bad habits and long enough to possibly feel you are wasting $1000 on a no good broad that you realize you really can not stand. Then the Mr. Hyde comes out and you start mistreating her mentally, and beating her, and dismembering torsos. Your familiarity will breed contempt, whereas me and the girl as strangers will be like ships passing in the night.

[HarryDubois]

I agree with pretty much everything you said.

If I were him, I would hit the dating sites and just come down and meet some girls. Don't talk about money or arrangements. Just have a good time. But in the end expect that you'll be dishing out money for the girl, but don't write it up in a contract.

I am getting a feeling that rather than $250 a month for a sugar baby, a starting price would be $1000. Is that reasonable? That is still a definite possibility for me. I am talking about using Seeking Arrangement. There seem to be tons of Medellin girls on there now.

I guess my feeling is that the difference between a sugar baby and a prostitute is safety. A sugar baby is going to be staying in a nice a condo with a man who she has gotten to know, who is clean (physically and also clean drug wise), polite, non-violent etc. She's not taking much of a risk of being beaten up or ending up with her dismembered torso in dumpster, which I assume is a factor which street walkers have to add into their prices.

Besides that, if she's a "regular" girl, in college for example, there isn't the stigma of walking the streets and being seen by people who know her. She's just hanging out with her American "papi". Maybe a little embarrassing, but no different than Melania Trump.

Plus you are "buying in bulk" which should get a discount.

About sex, I mean it's not a must for me. For that, I can just watch porn and masturbate. We'll see how we feel about each other. I am looking mainly for the emotional connection. That's important.

Please comment if I am getting this right or not.

[Surfer500]

I am a US citizen from New York City. I am divorced 8 years and 60 years old, but could pass for 45. I am white, blue eyes, athletic and I want to learn Spanish.

I am looking for a girlfriend in Medellin. Sex is NOT required. I am interested in someone 18 to 25, very beautiful and sexy for a long term relationship, love, affection and romance. I am lonely.

I would like to visit Medellin for a month once or twice a year. We would stay together in nice airbnb. I would give my girlfriend $250 USD each month we are together and $100 USD when we are separated however I would like to video chat or text message often.

I don't care if she's with other men when I am out of the country.

Does this sound realistic in terms of the compensation? Would Seeking Arrangements be the best website?

I know others have responded to your post, and irrespective of what your looking for, and what it costs, I have never heard of a monger coming to Medellin not to have sex or require it as part of an arrangement. I am going to have to assume you have a personal reason for this. With this being said, and your desire to learn Spanish, you might want to try to find a student, versus a "pro", perhaps someone in the process of learning English who can tutor you and vice versa. As far as the $ 250 a month, if that is a number driven by your budget, you should lower your expectations as far as physical beauty (a 6 versus a 10) which is in the eye of the beholder.

[Gringo Trooper]

I am a US citizen from New York City. I am divorced 8 years and 60 years old, but could pass for 45. I am white, blue eyes, athletic.

I am interested in someone 18 to 25, very beautiful and sexy for a long term relationship, love, affection and romance. I am lonely.

I hope you find what you're looking for buddy.

However, I looked at your posts over the last 5 years. And each year you say the same thing and propose the same question to the boards members. Just in a different country each time.

Obviously something needs to change. If you want a sexy girl in that age range it's going to cost money (m-o-n-e-y).

If I were you I would try to increase your bankroll as much as you can. First you get the money, then you get the girl. No shortcuts or cheap ways about it.

I wish the best for you my friend.

[Kazeu]

I agree with pretty much everything you said. I would add though, that it sounds like he just wants an open relationship, which I think would be totally doable. He's probably not going to find super models, but he will find plenty of attractive girls who would be open to relationships with older men.

If I were him, I would hit the dating sites and just come down and meet some girls. Don't talk about money or arrangements. Just have a good time. But in the end expect that you'll be dishing out money for the girl, but don't write it up in a contract.

I am just going to reiterate what Nounce and Conick2000 told you but try to add some things also,. $250 is just not a lot of money to ask someone to spend 30 days with you. The average decent looking chica can get $150 k COP ($40 USD) for a couple of hours of GFE (girlfriend experience) so that is 6 times a month if they can get the appointments vs your 30 times a month that's a 5 times multiplier. Certainly the monthly is guaranteed but it's just not a lot of money for asking for a thirty day commitment. What you are discussing at 250 is about the minimum wage in Colombia.

https://www.financecolombia.com/colo...sos-per-month/

Hot girls on SA in the states ask for at least $5000 month. If I do not clarify why I say this I will catch a fan full of shit from other BMs so let me clarify: I am not saying you give a chica in Colombia anything in the neighborhood or even in the same town as $5000 a month. What I am saying is that I do not think that kind of bait is going to reel in what you seek. It does not factor that you do not want sex, time is still money, I could be wrong on this point because I am guessing, but I am thinking that any Colombiana chica that you find that is going to spend time with you for money would consider herself a puta and since she could get minimum wage working eight hours a day at the mall. And the spend her evenings looking for 100 k-200 k appointments than that is what she would probably do. I think at a minimum you need to think about doubling that amount. As far as a $100 a month when you are away that is probably sufficient. Not that any board member would do this but in reality you are looking for something that does not get covered on this board.

All that said it is important that you go into this with your eyes open. Some of these chicas can seem very sweet when in reality they look at you and see an ATM. Colombianas are naturally nice and come across as very kind but do not let that make you think they are always honest you have to be firm with them (her) so you don't get taken advantage of. Otherwise her mother is going to need surgery, her baby will need a new medicine every week, etc etc and these request will be made with kind pleading eyes and then maybe even some crocodile tears for extra umph. Something else that happens all the time is when the guy is spending time with this amazingly beautiful and amazingly sweet girl and he thinks they are having an amazing time together and maybe they are but that does not change the fact that she sees him as an ATM. So now he is emotionally involved and he does not realize it and all that talk about only such such money starts to slide into "of course I will give you money for your baby's medicine, what kind of monster wouldn't do that" and then all that talk about she can be with other guys when I am gone. Becomes "what the hell is she doing fucking some other guy after I gave her all that extra money" I have seen guys who were nothing less than crazy infatuated with a chica is taking his money and still taking dates with other guys because he did not understand the situation. When I say crazy infatuated I mean "crazy".

I would be making trips to Colombia and having tryouts and interviews before decided to accept a arrangement with a chica just to be sure she is not evil or batshit crazy for starters.

I have read one board member who said he spent time with a chica in Colombia and would just bring her some panties and pay some of her bills while he was there but I think he stumbled on to that deal somehow, I cannot remember all the details. So its possible but it is hard to find when you are just searching online. You mentioned primarily using SA but the Colombian cupid is another site where you can chat with women in real time. I feel like the majority there are looking to get married but there are pros on their and semi pros but they are harder to find. But if you are sixty and chicas under 30 start sending you interest or respond to your overtures. Guess what? Either pro or semi pro.

Maybe their are members who have direct experience with SA, I do not, these days I am strictly P4 P. But I thought since not much had been said about your query I would throw my two cents in.

[Surfer500]

Elvis has answered the question. I also have some experience elsewhere so I will share a possible "why". Other countries use the phone to track movement, and that means local number. They make SIM available for sale at arrival gate to solve the issue. In some cities, the government will provide a loaner free if you don't have local number. I would guess that requirement for Colombians will be different. I think Colombia trying to do the right thing but they don't have the resource to follow up.

Interesting with the good news being Big Brother won't be in my back pocket. Thanks for providing this information.

[Surfer500]

Yes, I am sure. The only country code that can be entered into the app is +57. I downloaded and installed the app and tried to fill it out and could not.

Interesting, thanks for explaining this, big brother won't be following me around.

[Mojo Bandit]

I am a US citizen from New York City. I am divorced 8 years and 60 years old, but could pass for 45. I am white, blue eyes, athletic and I want to learn Spanish.

I am looking for a girlfriend in Medellin. Sex is NOT required. I am interested in someone 18 to 25, very beautiful and sexy for a long term relationship, love, affection and romance. I am lonely.

I would like to visit Medellin for a month once or twice a year. We would stay together in nice airbnb. I would give my girlfriend $250 USD each month we are together and $100 USD when we are separated however I would like to video chat or text message often.

I don't care if she's with other men when I am out of the country.

Does this sound realistic in terms of the compensation? Would Seeking Arrangements be the best website?

I am just going to reiterate what Nounce and Conick2000 told you but try to add some things also,. $250 is just not a lot of money to ask someone to spend 30 days with you. The average decent looking chica can get $150 k COP ($40 USD) for a couple of hours of GFE (girlfriend experience) so that is 6 times a month if they can get the appointments vs your 30 times a month that's a 5 times multiplier. Certainly the monthly is guaranteed but it's just not a lot of money for asking for a thirty day commitment. What you are discussing at 250 is about the minimum wage in Colombia.

https://www.financecolombia.com/colo...sos-per-month/

Hot girls on SA in the states ask for at least $5000 month. If I do not clarify why I say this I will catch a fan full of shit from other BMs so let me clarify: I am not saying you give a chica in Colombia anything in the neighborhood or even in the same town as $5000 a month. What I am saying is that I do not think that kind of bait is going to reel in what you seek. It does not factor that you do not want sex, time is still money, I could be wrong on this point because I am guessing, but I am thinking that any Colombiana chica that you find that is going to spend time with you for money would consider herself a puta and since she could get minimum wage working eight hours a day at the mall. And the spend her evenings looking for 100 k-200 k appointments than that is what she would probably do. I think at a minimum you need to think about doubling that amount. As far as a $100 a month when you are away that is probably sufficient. Not that any board member would do this but in reality you are looking for something that does not get covered on this board.

All that said it is important that you go into this with your eyes open. Some of these chicas can seem very sweet when in reality they look at you and see an ATM. Colombianas are naturally nice and come across as very kind but do not let that make you think they are always honest you have to be firm with them (her) so you don't get taken advantage of. Otherwise her mother is going to need surgery, her baby will need a new medicine every week, etc etc and these request will be made with kind pleading eyes and then maybe even some crocodile tears for extra umph. Something else that happens all the time is when the guy is spending time with this amazingly beautiful and amazingly sweet girl and he thinks they are having an amazing time together and maybe they are but that does not change the fact that she sees him as an ATM. So now he is emotionally involved and he does not realize it and all that talk about only such such money starts to slide into "of course I will give you money for your baby's medicine, what kind of monster wouldn't do that" and then all that talk about she can be with other guys when I am gone. Becomes "what the hell is she doing fucking some other guy after I gave her all that extra money" I have seen guys who were nothing less than crazy infatuated with a chica is taking his money and still taking dates with other guys because he did not understand the situation. When I say crazy infatuated I mean "crazy".

I would be making trips to Colombia and having tryouts and interviews before decided to accept a arrangement with a chica just to be sure she is not evil or batshit crazy for starters.

I have read one board member who said he spent time with a chica in Colombia and would just bring her some panties and pay some of her bills while he was there but I think he stumbled on to that deal somehow, I cannot remember all the details. So its possible but it is hard to find when you are just searching online. You mentioned primarily using SA but the Colombian cupid is another site where you can chat with women in real time. I feel like the majority there are looking to get married but there are pros on their and semi pros but they are harder to find. But if you are sixty and chicas under 30 start sending you interest or respond to your overtures. Guess what? Either pro or semi pro.

Maybe their are members who have direct experience with SA, I do not, these days I am strictly P4 P. But I thought since not much had been said about your query I would throw my two cents in.

[Gringo Trooper]

I saw a few also, but I didn't see many that looked like they were working? This guys camera motion was tough to focus, maybe someone can say better?

I thought I only spotted 1-3?

Post Script.

I have an auto filter on my brain, if a girl is fat, old or otherwise unattractive (tattoos etc), she doesn't register on my radar jaja.

Love your tunnel vision brother. I'm the same way. Got to love that reticular activation system (our brain blocks out what's not important).

Yeah there were a few in the street on Calle 10 in the video. A few more in one of the bars / restaurants west of the park. A couple by the steps / on the southwest corner of the park. Obviously wayyy less than normal.

[Elvis 2008]

I am a US citizen from New York City. I am divorced 8 years and 60 years old, but could pass for 45. I am white, blue eyes, athletic and I want to learn Spanish.

I am looking for a girlfriend in Medellin. Sex is NOT required. I am interested in someone 18 to 25, very beautiful and sexy for a long term relationship, love, affection and romance. I am lonely.

I would like to visit Medellin for a month once or twice a year. We would stay together in nice airbnb. I would give my girlfriend $250 USD each month we are together and $100 USD when we are separated however I would like to video chat or text message often.

I don't care if she's with other men when I am out of the country.

Does this sound realistic in terms of the compensation? Would Seeking Arrangements be the best website?

Okay, Harry, I am going to tell you what to do. The first thing is get out of the American working girl mindset where all you have to offer is money. You are American, a man of the world. You are offering knowledge, wisdom, possible ability to travel, and even if you are not interested in marriage, say that you are open minded about it and imply that a green card might be obtained through you.

The hit rate with seeking is very high in Colombia and Medellin in particular. Make the message to women simple. Hi I am. I am coming to Medellin and would like to meet you. Send out 100+ messages to the women and copy and paste. If you did not get 50 responses and 10 dates, I would be shocked.

There are many fewer men willing to offer what you are than women willing to take it. Your primary focus is not finding a woman who is willing to take your wage. Your goal is to find women, yes women, whose company you like. You are asking the wrong question.

Instead of finding one woman for a wage, why not do as I have and have several women where you do not give them a set wage? When the women ask for money, and you decide whether or not you want to give it or not. "Baby, I am getting fat. Can you buy me some workout equipment? Baby, I need money from the dentist. " When you give a wage, you get working girls. When you give gifts, you have friends. You want women who in part want and like you and not totally for your money. Of course, that hope of money is always there.

Tall Man has said the only honest woman is a prostitute. It has got me thinking. Certainly, at times in my life, I would have said hell yes to this. What I can say now is that even if it is true, it is not to my advantage to proceed with the relationships that I want with that attitude. Whether women are hookers or not, if you want this type of relationship, you do not want the women feeling like hookers. No woman wants that stigma even most of the women who are hookers.

You are selling yourself short just as I was. Weed out the short term hookers and look at the women who want to cash in long term. They are out there. I promise you.

It is not conceivable to you that you could have women, stunning ones at that, dying to talk to you more than you to them for nothing. But believe it or not, that is what I have. The shocking part to me is the quality of women I have had to let go.