Medellin Reports

[Knowledge]

I am not an objective source about this but I think renting is a very good option because of its low risk and flexibility.

I have thought on and off about buying an apartment in Medellin since I visit so often. Any rental income would be gravy. I just need to really sit down and compare what I'm paying for all of my trips (rentals) vs. What I would pay to buy and pay taxes, services, and HOA (and have the hassle of dealing with these folks).

Two things I've observed:

1) Prices mean nothing. I have real concerns about being ripped off, given the lack of information available on comps.

2) Need to pay cash, which ties up your money into something that may or may not provide a return.

3) Your investment is extremely illiquid. I have seen some apartments that have been listed for a year or more without a buyer. So if you want or need to get out, it will take time.

Unless I decide to live there for 1/2 of the year, I'll probably just continue to rent for now.

[Surfer500]

It is not hypocritical. One is your hobby the other is business. No one would expect anyone to ruin their business to stay true to the people that share their hobby.

Well said.

[Sandymnn]

It has been reported that 80% of every woman in Colombia has accepted money / gifts for sex (prostitution) at some point in their life.

This spring, I met and chatted with a very nice young lady after a class at UBP. Later in the day, I met her again at Ashia, unfortunately a victim of the virus. Had a great session, and she has been one of my regulars during the lockdown. Great lady! She is working her way through college.

[SonicBoom1]

Thanks, CL, it is a lot for Colombia, and thank God Mexico has been open to me. I tried seeking.com here in the sex prison. One woman wanted $1000 just for a day. I told a male friend about that and he laughed and said, "For that much money, I will let you fuck me."

This literally made me laugh aloud.

[Mojo Bandit]

As much as I hate to say it, as it is hypocritical, but if I had an Airbnb in Colombia I would also have rules about visitors.

It is not hypocritical. One is your hobby the other is business. No one would expect anyone to ruin their business to stay true to the people that share their hobby.

[Sandymnn]

I was in el Centro this morning, and a tout handed me a card and said they were open. Also, walked by Zandaly and the gate was open. Looked like there was some construction going on. Things are looking up!

[Member #4665]

Take out the women and how badly would you want to go to Colombia?

The women in Colombia are attractive just like women are attractive anywhere else. When people say it's heaven in Colombia sounds like an exaggeration. The downside is there is no variety like you'll never find a hot Asian girl in CL. The pricing is favorable, but only for those who come from the outside.

One story comes to mind when I met a UTR chick in Bogota who wanted $400 for a few hours. Said she was with an American last week who gave her $400 so now that's is what she wants from all gringos.

This girl seems very rude. Up charging someone just because of their place of residence or their appearance. Not the kind of woman that men would like to date. Plus a North American has $400 to spare probably because he has to pay $2500 rent. For example did you see in YouTube girl from medellin that moved to Toronto she says in Colombia she had a car and she bought apartmentWhen she moved to Toronto she lives in a one room basement with her husband and her 2 dogs. Basements don't even have proper Windows. So, 400 Whatever. Was she in some way a better deal than the Standard woman that can be found in bogota?

[Elvis 2008]

After her mom lost her job I started to pay my girls facturas in the house and buy the food. $200 a month the water the gas the administration fee for the vigilance, and electric is another all totaled 300,000 cop max, so for less than $300 a month I'm supporting her, her mom why younger brother. $1500 a month I could probably support the whole damn building jajaj Elvis, just keep in mind 60% of all Colombians make minimum wage, and that was just raised to about 730,000 a month, slight more than $200 a month to work 5 and a half days a week for 30 days so now you get a perspective to how much your giving these girls. I'm sure they are going to be fighting over you when you get there. Jajaj But remember there is a difference between helping these girls in a very desperate time and being a Pendejo.

LL,

It is around $200 per month per woman, which is about what you are giving that one chica. As you said, that is just to get by. When I have a woman who has her father who has lost her job say, "I do not what we are going to do for groceries. " I send her $70, and she shows me a cart full of groceries, what I am supposed to think, that she is bullshitting me? She could be, but I do not think so. Most of the time generosity does not get you shit. The women think they are great hustlers and can just go onto another guy, but these are not normal times.

Thing is I was seeing hot women on seeking.com and could not get them to pay attention to me. So to separate myself from the pack, I said, "Hey, I know times are tough. Do you need a little to get by? And I would send them $30 or $40" I knew that 95% of the responses on seeking.com that women get are guys trying to fuck them and pay nothing, so this separated me from the others, and the hottest women stunningly all responded to me.

The funny thing is one, who may have been the hottest one, was in Medellin. I gave her $40 twice, told about a trip to Mexico, and she bitched that I was bragging about this trip while she was miserable and stuck in her house. We actually had decent chemistry before that. Anyway, I told her that given that she was going to be miserable no matter what I gave her, I told her that I would give her nothing from then on and blew her off. I had similar come to Jesus moments with the two women I see in Mexico. The best looking women rarely have men discipline them and when they do, the men usually are not fair about it. So we are done right? Nope, she has been frequently checking out my profile on seeking. I suspect when I get to Medellin I will see her and I will have no problem telling her that I expect her to act like and perform like a good companion and if she is only interested in complaining, she can sit her ass at home.

And you guys are missing the most important part. You have the best sex with women when it is not just about the money. All of these women have said "Te amo" or "Te quiero" to me, and sometimes I reciprocate and sometimes I do not if I do not feel it is genuine. These hot women get hundreds of texts and calls a day right with every kind of offer imaginable. But when I text or call them, they respond and quickly. In fact, they ***** when I do not call or text them enough.

[Paulie97]

There is an expression that many must hear and learn, you may shrug this off but just allow it to marinate for a while as you come to understand how true and encompassing it is:

"The only honest woman is a prostitute".

The Tall Man.

If you are going to retreat to that one, "all women are prostitutes," then the same principle applies to you. What will you do for $? Use your imagination. But yea there are plenty of homes where the man and woman are both bread earners. And there are a lot of women that support their bum boyfriends. There are women who do guys they are heavily attracted to simply because they are horny. It might make you feel better about your practice of buying it to assume that all or 80% of the women in a certain country are selling it, but there's no evidence to support that. File it under "monger myths."

[Nounce]

You really can't compare appreciation of properties in California to Medellin. Most properties in Colombia are purchased on a cash basis with very few loans being taken out, and if so for a very minor amount. In the USA the appreciation has been high as a result of the very low mortgage rates, whereas in Colombia this is not a factor. Appreciation of properties in certain areas of Poblado up until the Pandemic had been averaging at about 10% a year.

Yes, that is why buying a rental property in US and use the rental income to rent apartment in Medellin is better than buying property in Medellin for part time living and renting.

[SJobs]

Did Spirit cancel your flight (#859) on Sept 21 from FLL to Cartagena? Spirit's website now shows that there is no flight on that date. In addition, you cannot book that same flight to Cartagena on Sept 23 (suggesting either full or cancelled). First date you can book now is Sept 25.

Those of us dying to get Colombia are highly interested in monitoring when exactly you get there and how difficult the journey was.

I booked my flights earlier in the month, after they canceled my 9/1, 9/7, 9/10, and 9/17 flight. I just checked spirit website, there are still tickets on 9/21 #859. The flights on the 23rd is sold out, but I do have a ticket. If I make it over on Saturday, I will return both tickets, they might resell it. Stay tuned.

[LatinaLover#1]

Still, that is a lot, I bought one girls kid some 90 mil COP worth of school supplies and that made me fell like a schlep. LOL maybe I am a true cheepie charlie!

Listen, I never criticize anyone on how much money they give a girl. Everything is relative, one mans floor is anothers ceiling. However I guess if push came to shove I'd prefer monger who is more conservative with how much money they give a girl. One story comes to mind when I met a UTR chick in Bogota who wanted $400 for a few hours. Said she was with an American last week who gave her $400 so now that's is what she wants from all gringos. So paying stupid money just creates problems for all of us down the road. Unless she is your compañera constante, After her mom lost her job I started to pay my girls facturas in the house and buy the food. $200 a month the water the gas the administration fee for the vigilance, and electric is another all totaled 300,000 cop max, so for less than $300 a month I'm supporting her, her mom why younger brother. $1500 a month I could probably support the whole damn building jajaj Elvis, just keep in mind 60% of all Colombians make minimum wage, and that was just raised to about 730,000 a month, slight more than $200 a month to work 5 and a half days a week for 30 days so now you get a perspective to how much your giving these girls. I'm sure they are going to be fighting over you when you get there. Jajaj But remember there is a difference between helping these girls in a very desperate time and being a Pendejo.

[Surfer500]

I have thought on and off about buying an apartment in Medellin since I visit so often. Any rental income would be gravy. I just need to really sit down and compare what I'm paying for all of my trips (rentals) vs. What I would pay to buy and pay taxes, services, and HOA (and have the hassle of dealing with these folks).

Two things I've observed:

1) Prices mean nothing. I have real concerns about being ripped off, given the lack of information available on comps.

2) Need to pay cash, which ties up your money into something that may or may not provide a return.

3) Your investment is extremely illiquid. I have seen some apartments that have been listed for a year or more without a buyer. So if you want or need to get out, it will take time.

Unless I decide to live there for 1/2 of the year, I'll probably just continue to rent for now.

A couple of things for you and others to consider who are contemplating purchasing an apartment. Observation number 1, If you can find the property on your own versus somebody looking for you and have a good attorney getting ripped off should not be a concern. There is a wealth of comp information available on the real estate websites, but just knowing square meter prices etc is not as important as to the location and amenities of the property and the intended end use. Observation number 2, yes you pay in cash and this gives you an edge as a foreign buyer as Colombians struggle with this so you can be in a position to pay very rapidly which is huge in negotiating a purchase. Also, for those looking to retire or become an investor, an approximate $ 150,000 USD purchase will get you a residency visa, basically the equivalent of a green card in the USA. Observation number 3, yes properties will languish on the market for long periods of time, but that is solely a function of the price and if the apartment is undesirable. So what's the takeaway from this, if your going to buy something, find something unique with rental potential, however this can be very challenging and take a while.

[Elvis 2008]

Still, that is a lot, I bought one girls kid some 90 mil COP worth of school supplies and that made me fell like a schlep. LOL maybe I am a true cheepie charlie!

Nah, we have different goals. My dream is to bring two of the best women back to the USA. A lawyer friend suggested a way to do it that may work out. Visas have been hard to come by. I was going to use a fiance visa on a super hot Vennie and it fell through thank God. I can probably make it to Colombia once every month or two, but I can make it to Mexico once every two weeks. Meeting the women in Mexico is my next goal, and it is really important that the women trust me and I make it worth their while.

You would think traveling to Cancun or Cabo is something Colombian women would jump at, and they are very interested but about half the time I have scheduled trips with all women, they either bail at the last minute or have other issues. I have tried 3 X to get Colombian women to Mexico and only succeeded once. I have learned the hard way what to do then. I asked a lot of Mexicans for help on the issue. I was told Do not fly them into Mexico City, have an event that they are going to in Mexico, have a friend or at least a friend they can name in the city that they are flying into, make sure they have at least $500 on them, and I was told going through Panama versus coming in directly from Colombia works out better.

Of the two who did not make it, one could not get by Colombian customs and the other was terrorized in a kind of jail in the Mexico City airport. She had her shoes stolen, luggage broken ETC. It was the worst experience of her life.

Maybe my plans fail, and I have to just suck it up and commute to Colombia, but I have pretty much run out of things to do in Bogota so really the only thing for me to do there is to fuck, work out when the gyms open, and eat. Maybe there is more to do in Cartagena and Medellin, but in comparison, I have been to Cancun like 7 or 8 X and there is still a month's worth of stuff that I want to see and do, and I have not been to Puerto Vallarta, Acapulco, or Cabo yet.

I was talking with a Brazilian about going to Mexico, and she was excited, but the flight got cancelled. I finally realized the best way to see her was for me to travel to Brazil, and she said "But everything sucks in Brazil. " And I have to admit that once I took the women out of the picture, I really had no desire to return to Brazil.

I am not sure if the same is going to be true of Colombia yet, but I have a feeling it will be. Take out the women and how badly would you want to go to Colombia?

[DramaFree11]

Obviously I can't count. Three things I have observed.

Also, it just takes one pissed off neighbor then you are screwed. They can make your life a living hell. If you are interested is seeing just one or two girls no big deal, multiple girls you are opening yourself up for all kinds of problems, just be careful. This why I change apartment or Condos every few days in Mexico.