Medellin Reports

[The Tall Man]

I guess I need to be more specific.

It's obvious some of you consider anyone who has ever broadcast on a webcam as a webcam model. In which case I'm a webcam model. Can we apply the same standard and say anyone who has taken a nude video of themselves is also a pornstar?

Go on any webcam site and you'll find pages full of girls with 5 or less viewers. Some of them will last a week or two, most disappear after a few days. If you're considering them webcam models, then absolutely, they're available. Or you can just go on Facebook, pick any girl and you've got about a 30% chance they're a webcam model, using the definition that they went on webcam at least once. You can get about the same percentage in the casas.

A webcam model, by my definition is someone who is either currently supporting herself solely through webcam earnings, or who has committed to solely working as a webcam model with the intention of supporting herself in that way. Once they reach the point where they are supporting themselves they will consistently have 60-100 viewers and will consistently receive 1000+ tokens per broadcast. That was always the threshold I used for models. That puts them at $250 per week. Below that level, a bad day, or missing a few days would usually cause the girl to get discouraged and quit...

Some of you buy into all this shit, be they webcam models or a glue sniffer from centro and anything in between they are all putas, my gawd people place these webcam models who masturbate in front of a camera for anyone to see and jack off with as a goddess.

And WTF needing to define what a true webcam model is, just fuck them in the ass as you pull their hair and yell "who's your daddy"! Hehehe.

Much love and respect to all but just please call it for what it is.

The Tall Man.

[Knowledge]

Good post this one, factual with attribution.

Andrs Uribe, regional manager of IATA in Colombia, said today that the Colombian authorities would allow international travel from three cities: Cartagena, Cali, and Medellin. If this happens, Bogota would be left behind at the beginning. Uribe said that nothing is confirmed yet, so the shortlisted cities could change before 21 September.

[Knowledge]

Hahaha, Blakman, isn't true that on several afternoons during the past 4 months you ventured into the Plaza Botero? I remind you that you are under oath.

What's next? Accusation that I cannot handle the truth LOL. It's not that serious to right or wrong. Knowledge..

[Blakman]

Andrés Uribe, regional manager of IATA in Colombia, said today that the Colombian authorities would allow international travel from three cities: Cartagena, Cali, and Medellin. If this happens, Bogota would be left behind at the beginning. Uribe said that nothing is confirmed yet, so the shortlisted cities could change before 21 September.

[Blakman]

What's next? Accusation that I cannot handle the truth LOL. It's not that serious to right or wrong. Knowledge.

Blakman, forgive me for muddying the waters with this rhetorical question. Do you accept the possibility that humanitarian flights could be canceled and replaced by daily commercial service?

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[JjBee62]

I really agree with most of what you say here. The only difference really is that I don't think the girl that gets a lot more in Gustos is necessarily a scammer. I agree that it's not the average rate for Medellin, but it may be the normal rate for that club (more or less) and if everyone is happy. No harm no foul. As for newbies, etc, sure it is great if they can read this forum and know the options. Sometimes the same chica will work in a casa during the day for 20 or 25 K per 40 minutes (her cut), will work Parque Lleras or Facebook or whatever for 200 K per session. And will then go up to Gustos and try for the 7-800 k.

I would always steer people away from Gustos by explaining all of that. But, its there as a tourist trap, or whatever, and the gal I know that works it occasionally is an opportunist, yes, but also basically honest and not what I would call a scammer (as far as I know) She will ask for the going rate wherever she is.

And interesting that you mention Canada. I'm looking in To. Lots. Rates range a lot from around the $200 per hour as you say, on the low end, but well in the high hundreds and sometimes over $1000 for "high end" girls. The agency rates are usually in the $200-$400 per hour range and there are lots of great ladies to choose from. Between agencies, independents, and massage places there are a few thousand on any given day.

Whether a girl asks for 250 k or $2500, in what way is that a scam? All she's done is thrown out a price. It might be a ridiculous price, but it doesn't cost you anything.

If some guy accepts her price, as long as she provides the agreed service, it's not a scam. He overpaid, but he got what he paid for.

In what universe is every provider of every service obligated to limit their rates to those chosen by the consumer? Someone please give me directions because I want to insist that the price for all new cars is $1000.

The local market rate doesn't preclude some girls from charging more, or less. There are guys getting TLN for cab fare. Should we insist Slapshot pay each overnight girl 300 k because that's the local rate?

[MMHikeus]

I'm not criticizing the woman in Las Vegas that earns 800. I'm criticizing the woman in Las Vegas that charges 1600 For service that cost 800.

This post is for all the New forum members: All those in Colombia advise you not to go to the club Gustos. Where girls are charging Between 750,000 to 1,121,703. 00 pesos for service you can get for 300,000. Just the other day my friend got 1 of the hottest girls on seeking 3 hours for 300,000 +50,000 tip. And if you are not so picky choosy with the girls you can probably get a lower price at a brothel. If you're concerned about wages being too low than pay her more out of Righteousness, or kindness and generosity. Ask her to come back so she can double her wages. But don't get scammed. Think about this girl Pinky, She got she got 250000 and if that isn't enough she keeps coming back for more..

The price of an item depends on where it is bought. The same beer sells for different prices in different locations such as corner store, supermarket, restaurant, bar, sport stadium. The same girl might charge different prices in different locations. Similarly, the same guy may pay different prices in different locations. Just because I pay usd 50 per night in Medellin doesn't mean I get to pay it in New York City. It is probably more like usd 4000.

Everyone has a financial calculation, both the buyer and seller. As long as they are happy with what they are paying or charging, that is their right price. For example, if I have to get laid one time, for an hour, I would just pay the $500 per hour where I live and be done with it. Medellin in that case is not a better deal, as the flight and hotel costs add up to $1000 or more, plus time off from work. If it's a week or longer trip, Medellin is a great value for me. Door to door, I have spent about $3000 for the trip, including buying dinner at good places for the girls, paying for hair and nails, or buying them outfits etc. Where I am, I could end up spending more than that for an overnight. The stuff I buy them is mostly want I volunteer to buy, not them asking for it.

So everyone's situation and price point is different. There is no right answer. If you can afford it and it is convenient for you, that is your right price. There is no, one size fits all. I have friends that blow usd 1000 in Fase Dos. These are the same guys that spend 20 grand in one night partying in the US. It's not for me, and I can afford it, they can afford it and they spend it.

[Knowledge]

Blakman,

Yes, I agree that those are the details of humanitarian flight scheduling, but that is not what I asked. My question was whether you accept the possibility that those flights, however and whenever they are scheduled, are subject to change, cancellation, and replacement by normal commercial service. Rather than just restate the question I will explain it further. Since no date to resume international commercial flights has been officially announced or confirmed, can you accept the possibility that the service could resume on a date that precedes or coincides with the date of a previously scheduled humanitarian flight? In other words, the existence of a scheduled humanitarian flight does not exclude the possibility of international service resuming.

Humanitarian flights are scheduled in advance. Like 2 to 3 weeks. They are only scheduled based on international flights not being allowed. They are scheduled beginning and near the end of each month.

[Nounce]

I'm not criticizing the woman in Las Vegas that earns 800. I'm criticizing the woman in Las Vegas that charges 1600 For service that cost 800.

This post is for all the New forum members: All those in Colombia advise you not to go to the club Gustos. Where girls are charging Between 750,000 to 1,121,703. 00 pesos for service you can get for 300,000. Just the other day my friend got 1 of the hottest girls on seeking 3 hours for 300,000 +50,000 tip. And if you are not so picky choosy with the girls you can probably get a lower price at a brothel. If you're concerned about wages being too low than pay her more out of Righteousness, or kindness and generosity. Ask her to come back so she can double her wages. But don't get scammed. Think about this girl Pinky, She got she got 250000 and if that isn't enough she keeps coming back for more.

A scam is a scam no matter All the technicalities the scammer Has. The day all the girls start charging 1,000,000 is the day all the sexual tourist in the city Will choose another destination. This forum would not have 39,000 post and a lively community. So good luck with scaring your customers away. Think about New York pay $1500 per hour or take the bus into Canada Where you can pay 210 per hour.There's probably like 3 losers in all New York paying 1500 everyone else smarter than to let people scam them selves.

The standard rate as established by the market is 1 of the most important factors in the scientific process of negotiating. You can go above the standard or below the standard depending on the situation. But the standard exists and is very real, That being said a standard can subjectively understood as incorrect or uninformed.

The girls are doing the same thing most mongers do for opposite reason. Mongers go to Medellin to spend less and girls go to Gustos to get more. IMO, if the girls are scammers, so are the mongers. Based on this, can I say Gustos is a win win for both?

One other post mentioned Gustos mongers are suckers. It has been observed here before, aren't all mongers who spend money in Parque Lleras or renting apartment in El Poblado suckers too. A beer in a club or bar only cost around 5 mils in El Centro so everyone who pay twice that can be considered a sucker.

[Kafka]

My regular charges me $140. But being in Cartegena is more fun. Medellin overwhelmed me.

Humanitarian flights are scheduled in advance. Like 2 to 3 weeks. They are only scheduled based on international flights not being allowed. They are scheduled beginning and near the end of each month..

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[Zeos1]

I'm not criticizing the woman in Las Vegas that earns 800. I'm criticizing the woman in Las Vegas that charges 1600 For service that cost 800.

This post is for all the New forum members: All those in Colombia advise you not to go to the club Gustos. Where girls are charging Between 750,000 to 1,121,703. 00 pesos for service you can get for 300,000. Just the other day my friend got 1 of the hottest girls on seeking 3 hours for 300,000 +50,000 tip. And if you are not so picky choosy with the girls you can probably get a lower price at a brothel. If you're concerned about wages being too low than pay her more out of Righteousness, or kindness and generosity. Ask her to come back so she can double her wages. But don't get scammed. Think about this girl Pinky, She got she got 250000 and if that isn't enough she keeps coming back for more.

A scam is a scam no matter All the technicalities the scammer Has. The day all the girls start charging 1,000,000 is the day all the sexual tourist in the city Will choose another destination. This forum would not have 39,000 post and a lively community. So good luck with scaring your customers away. Think about New York pay $1500 per hour or take the bus into Canada Where you can pay 210 per hour.There's probably like 3 losers in all New York paying 1500 everyone else smarter than to let people scam them selves.

The standard rate as established by the market is 1 of the most important factors in the scientific process of negotiating. You can go above the standard or below the standard depending on the situation. But the standard exists and is very real, That being said a standard can subjectively understood as incorrect or uninformed.

I really agree with most of what you say here. The only difference really is that I don't think the girl that gets a lot more in Gustos is necessarily a scammer. I agree that it's not the average rate for Medellin, but it may be the normal rate for that club (more or less) and if everyone is happy. No harm no foul. As for newbies, etc, sure it is great if they can read this forum and know the options. Sometimes the same chica will work in a casa during the day for 20 or 25 K per 40 minutes (her cut), will work Parque Lleras or Facebook or whatever for 200 K per session. And will then go up to Gustos and try for the 7-800 k.

I would always steer people away from Gustos by explaining all of that. But, its there as a tourist trap, or whatever, and the gal I know that works it occasionally is an opportunist, yes, but also basically honest and not what I would call a scammer (as far as I know) She will ask for the going rate wherever she is.

And interesting that you mention Canada. I'm looking in To. Lots. Rates range a lot from around the $200 per hour as you say, on the low end, but well in the high hundreds and sometimes over $1000 for "high end" girls. The agency rates are usually in the $200-$400 per hour range and there are lots of great ladies to choose from. Between agencies, independents, and massage places there are a few thousand on any given day.

[Blakman]

Humanitarian flights are scheduled in advance. Like 2 to 3 weeks. They are only scheduled based on international flights not being allowed. They are scheduled beginning and near the end of each month.

Blakman, forgive me for muddying the waters with this rhetorical question. Do you accept the possibility that humanitarian flights could be canceled and replaced by daily commercial service?

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[Black Page]

Hopefully your dead wrong that Colombia will be shutdown until next year to visitors.

I am happy to pay those $10. It was a way to trigger the Fate. I and othersr have a trip planned to Taiwan this Dec, nobody thinks it will be allowed, still let me dream I will fly there before Xmas, and at the same time pay you $10 because you fly to Colombia. I never hoped to lose a bet more than this time.

[Black Page]

What does Singapore have to do with this? Mexico is already open for US.

You really do not understand? What is difficult here?

Singapore is an example, real example from real world, that "having international flights connecting an airport is a necessary condition for foreigners to reach that country, but it is largely not sufficient.
The second necessary condition is that government regulations do allow foreigners to enter.".

If I don't provide an example, someone may not understand what is a necessary condition vs. A sufficient condition, because it's logic terminology.

So, one thing is having CTG conneected to MIA, another that regular tourist people from MIA is allowed to fly to CTG. See the examples of categories who are allowed to travel to SIN: really few ones. Yet, SIN is connected to Europe with daily flights.

[JjBee62]

I agree with you on webcam models especially with chaturbate. I have known 3 Facebook girls that have tried this only to quit in a very short time. I'm sure there are some super models out there that make a living doing this but very very few do. Alot of times these girls can't even cover their transportation costs..

I guess I need to be more specific.

It's obvious some of you consider anyone who has ever broadcast on a webcam as a webcam model. In which case I'm a webcam model. Can we apply the same standard and say anyone who has taken a nude video of themselves is also a pornstar?

Go on any webcam site and you'll find pages full of girls with 5 or less viewers. Some of them will last a week or two, most disappear after a few days. If you're considering them webcam models, then absolutely, they're available. Or you can just go on Facebook, pick any girl and you've got about a 30% chance they're a webcam model, using the definition that they went on webcam at least once. You can get about the same percentage in the casas.

A webcam model, by my definition is someone who is either currently supporting herself solely through webcam earnings, or who has committed to solely working as a webcam model with the intention of supporting herself in that way. Once they reach the point where they are supporting themselves they will consistently have 60-100 viewers and will consistently receive 1000+ tokens per broadcast. That was always the threshold I used for models. That puts them at $250 per week. Below that level, a bad day, or missing a few days would usually cause the girl to get discouraged and quit.

Getting discouraged and giving up is always a big problem because it usually takes 6-8 weeks to get to that 1000 token level. It takes another 4-6 weeks to get to the 2000 tokens per show level. Most of the webcam models who are supporting themselves, at least that I know, pull between 2000-4000 tokens per show. 1000 tokens is $50 to the account. How much the model receives depends upon her agreement with the studio.

In addition, successful webcam models (those who can depend on at least 4000 tokens per show) will usually sell content, either on the camsite, or on sites such as fancentro or Onlyfans. There's also offline tips and fanclub memberships bringing in money. A successful Colombian webcam model can easily bring in $100 k annually. I know several who are doing it. These aren't the top models, just the ones who are doing well. Top models are pulling $40 k and up per month.

If you're regularly pulling dates with webcam models who are pulling in 4 k+ tokens per show, I'm going to ask for proof. I'm going to be skeptical if you tell me you're succeeding with girls earning 2-4 k tokens per show.

However, if you're going to call any girl who goes on webcam a webcam model, there's probably not a monger in Medellin who hasn't nailed half a dozen or more. I'm pretty sure I've bedded at least 20.

For reference, the reason I went to Medellin and stayed a year was to work with webcam studios. I shared an apartment with a successful webcam model, even briefly worked with a few top models.