Medellin Reports

[Puntz79]

Two questions: 1. What is the source of your statement that "proof of a covid negative test will be required"? 2. What is the definition of proof?

1. Articles out there now which state this. This is what the Transport Minister has stated. "Lo que sí tenemos claro es que se eliminaría la restriccióand al ingreso a partir del 1 de septiembre, que probablemente se exigiría prueba de covid".

2. Proof. Likely a negative PCR test within 48-72 hours of departure. 5 minute rapid tests from Abbott will be out in September, and the government just acquired 150 million of them. I'm also guessing that based off the statement from the transport minister that testing may be done on arrival, what kind of testing and how fast that would be, I do not know. It's reasonable to assume it follows the model of how other countries are doing this and more are leaning on the side of rapid testing or requiring a negative before departure to avoid doing the 14-day quarantine. I mean, that's just a trip killer anyways. We shall see what the days to come reveal.

[Luminus]

I don't know how reputable this source is but I've just read this:

https://www.infobae.com/america/colo...tYvXJoLzUqF5LI

As always use the info as you will.

For me, I am holding off, I'm hoping for Nov-Dec but I'm willing to wait, I've got a few I've lasso'd that keep me entertained on Whatsapp.

[Knowledge]

That did not answer either of my questions but thank you for responding anyway.

The new 5 minute $5 Abbott test 97% accuracy will come with an app that actually will display results. There are others coming as well. Should be widely available in two months. You can buy a bunch and test chicas too.

[PolloNegro]

Wackman, you're turning into Trump, with these well-thought-out schoolyard nicknames! I love it!

The other countries part is a grey area, but like SJobs said, it would be a big gaping wet loophole for a guy like him that is willing to do whatever it takes to get back to paradise.

Really though, are we to assume that just because the US is offering humanitarian flights, that the Colombian government will have to wait until after the ultimate-scheduled flight to announce there will be international commercial flights? That sounds like an infinite amount of time, because the US has the responsibility to continue to offer those flights until normal commercial / tourism flights are available. Chicken or the egg. I would take the over on. 5 humanitarian flights being cancelled in conjunction with an announcement about commercial travel opening. Stay tuned, this is riveting stuff!

Has anyone been to centro this week? Any changes in the crowd / vibe as all this news has been coming out?

Everything is still blocked off except the walk way! Pollo negro is out!

[MarquisdeSade1]

Thank you for this encouraging and well reasoned post! Here is the link to support the facts you have mentioned https://www.eltiempo.com/economia/se...ionales-533854.

For people like me, who are dying to get back to Medellin, a 14 day mandatory quarantine and needing to go through a secondary Latin America country that is in the first wave of allow countries is not a problem.

I don't know about anyone else but can I say reading your posts only makes a bad situation worse for me, the endless pining, your thirst is quite depressing, at least to me, yes many of us want to get there ASAP.

But I don't write about it on here, over and over and over and over.

[Blakman]

You just made my point duh. As long as humanitarian flights are running means comercials are not. When commercial starts there will be no need for humanitarian flights.

Wackman, you're turning into Trump, with these well-thought-out schoolyard nicknames! I love it!

The other countries part is a grey area, but like SJobs said, it would be a big gaping wet loophole for a guy like him that is willing to do whatever it takes to get back to paradise.

Really though, are we to assume that just because the US is offering humanitarian flights, that the Colombian government will have to wait until after the ultimate-scheduled flight to announce there will be international commercial flights? That sounds like an infinite amount of time, because the US has the responsibility to continue to offer those flights until normal commercial / tourism flights are available. Chicken or the egg. I would take the over on. 5 humanitarian flights being cancelled in conjunction with an announcement about commercial travel opening. Stay tuned, this is riveting stuff!

Has anyone been to centro this week? Any changes in the crowd / vibe as all this news has been coming out?

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[SlapShot10]

I am in the united states. And if there is humanitarian flights to the United States, it means theres no other airlines flying into the country at those times. I can give 2 shit about other countries. I do not live there. But I respect your technical assessment. I think slapshortie excuse I mean slapshot probably agrees.

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Wackman, you're turning into Trump, with these well-thought-out schoolyard nicknames! I love it!

The other countries part is a grey area, but like SJobs said, it would be a big gaping wet loophole for a guy like him that is willing to do whatever it takes to get back to paradise.

Really though, are we to assume that just because the US is offering humanitarian flights, that the Colombian government will have to wait until after the ultimate-scheduled flight to announce there will be international commercial flights? That sounds like an infinite amount of time, because the US has the responsibility to continue to offer those flights until normal commercial / tourism flights are available. Chicken or the egg. I would take the over on. 5 humanitarian flights being cancelled in conjunction with an announcement about commercial travel opening. Stay tuned, this is riveting stuff!

Has anyone been to centro this week? Any changes in the crowd / vibe as all this news has been coming out?

[Kafka]

The new 5 minute $5 Abbott test 97% accuracy will come with an app that actually will display results. There are others coming as well. Should be widely available in two months. You can buy a bunch and test chicas too.

Two questions: 1. What is the source of your statement that "proof of a covid negative test will be required"? 2. What is the definition of proof?

[Blakman]

I am in the united states. And if there is humanitarian flights to the United States, it means theres no other airlines flying into the country at those times. I can give 2 shit about other countries. I do not live there. But I respect your technical assessment. I think slapshortie excuse I mean slapshot probably agrees.

This is not true. Humanitarian flights are coordinated between the embassies of different nations and the airlines. That's why when one is scheduled, they go ahead and announce it (I. E. For American citizens, this airline, this date etc). International flights depend on bilateral agreements between the countries, humanitarian flights do not have anything to do with international. To give an example, Iberia and Avianca have operated humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. The same with Spirit and between the USA and Colombia. If Colombia has bilateral agreements with Mexico, Peru, Chile etc. It can restart international flights between Colombia and those countries, while also allowing humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. Just because there are humanitarian flights taking place, it does not mean international flights cannot restart.

On further note, the Ministry of Health mentioned today that international flights are eligible to resume after September 1st, the question will be what routes between what countries because those all depend on bilateral agreements, entry restrictions, etc. A number of factors. But what is clear is that the restriction to not allow international flights which has been in place since March, it will be removed as planned. Proof of a covid negative test will be required, and since it was stated that the reasoning behind lifting of the restrictions is "if biosecurity measures established are met by the airlines, the probability of a traveler being infected by Covid-19 is less than 1%" citing a recent study which concluded that the risk of contracting covid-19 during travel is no greater a risk than any other day-to-day activities. So my assumption is that they will not have a 14 day quarantine requirement, unless certain above risk countries are identified where cases are rising significantly. Some regional latin american countries probably will get the nod first before the USA but I don't think we will be far behind, since we have bilateral relations established with Colombia. But again, humanitarian flights and international flights are two very different things and just because one is operating between countries does not mean the other cannot between other countries until humanitarian flights end. That is silly.

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[Knowledge]

Two questions: 1. What is the source of your statement that "proof of a covid negative test will be required"? 2. What is the definition of proof?

This is not true. Humanitarian flights are coordinated between the embassies of different nations and the airlines. That's why when one is scheduled, they go ahead and announce it (I. E. For American citizens, this airline, this date etc). International flights depend on bilateral agreements between the countries, humanitarian flights do not have anything to do with international. To give an example, Iberia and Avianca have operated humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. The same with Spirit and between the USA and Colombia. If Colombia has bilateral agreements with Mexico, Peru, Chile etc. It can restart international flights between Colombia and those countries, while also allowing humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. Just because there are humanitarian flights taking place, it does not mean international flights cannot restart.

On further note, the Ministry of Health mentioned today that international flights are eligible to resume after September 1st, the question will be what routes between what countries because those all depend on bilateral agreements, entry restrictions, etc. A number of factors. But what is clear is that the restriction to not allow international flights which has been in place since March, it will be removed as planned. Proof of a covid negative test will be required, and since it was stated that the reasoning behind lifting of the restrictions is "if biosecurity measures established are met by the airlines, the probability of a traveler being infected by Covid-19 is less than 1%" citing a recent study which concluded that the risk of contracting covid-19 during travel is no greater a risk than any other day-to-day activities. So my assumption is that they will not have a 14 day quarantine requirement, unless certain above risk countries are identified where cases are rising significantly. Some regional latin american countries probably will get the nod first before the USA but I don't think we will be far behind, since we have bilateral relations established with Colombia..

[Just Incognito]

Damn dude, I don't know what kind of licensed medical professional you were, but if you were to get sick, I mean like ICU level sick, costs aside, there is no better place to be than in the US. Heck most 3rd world hospitals haven't even heard of far less have ecmo treatment for example, but like I said, to each their own, rationalization is a powerful thing, especially when youthful warm pussy is calling..

[Deleted by Admin] Sorry, but the US really isn't 'exceptional' on most things. Americans are not living in the most free country and the world, they don't have the most rights, and they don't have the best medical care -or medical system.

I'd much rather be in most hospitals in Northern Europe if I had Covid-19. I would trust the care more in some places in southeast Asia as well (Taiwan, South Korea, Thailand, Singapore). I think you might get better overall care in Costa Rica for this as well.

I had some medical work in Colombia--better care than anything I ever had in the US-I was genuinely impressed with the medical facilities and hospital in Barranquilla! (Though, maybe, with the specifics of covid Colombia wouldn't be preferable to the US).

I would also trust the Covid medial treatments in Australia and New Zealand over any medical facility in the US.

[Just Incognito]

This is not true. Humanitarian flights are coordinated between the embassies of different nations and the airlines. That's why when one is scheduled, they go ahead and announce it (I. E. For American citizens, this airline, this date etc). International flights depend on bilateral agreements between the countries, humanitarian flights do not have anything to do with international. To give an example, Iberia and Avianca have operated humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. The same with Spirit and between the USA and Colombia. If Colombia has bilateral agreements with Mexico, Peru, Chile etc. It can restart international flights between Colombia and those countries, while also allowing humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. Just because there are humanitarian flights taking place, it does not mean international flights cannot restart.

But, why even offer the humanitarian flights now if they are just going to have regular international flight--probably to / from the same destinations as the humanitarian flights-anyway? It makes no sense. If they were about to open up international flights in a week or 2. They wouldn't need to offer 'humanitarian' flights now.

[SJobs]

This is not true. Humanitarian flights are coordinated between the embassies of different nations and the airlines. That's why when one is scheduled, they go ahead and announce it (I. E. For American citizens, this airline, this date etc). International flights depend on bilateral agreements between the countries, humanitarian flights do not have anything to do with international. To give an example, Iberia and Avianca have operated humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. The same with Spirit and between the USA and Colombia. If Colombia has bilateral agreements with Mexico, Peru, Chile etc. It can restart international flights between Colombia and those countries, while also allowing humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. Just because there are humanitarian flights taking place, it does not mean international flights cannot restart.

On further note, the Ministry of Health mentioned today that international flights are eligible to resume after September 1st, the question will be what routes between what countries because those all depend on bilateral agreements, entry restrictions, etc. A number of factors. But what is clear is that the restriction to not allow international flights which has been in place since March, it will be removed as planned. Proof of a covid negative test will be required, and since it was stated that the reasoning behind lifting of the restrictions is "if biosecurity measures established are met by the airlines, the probability of a traveler being infected by Covid-19 is less than 1%" citing a recent study which concluded that the risk of contracting covid-19 during travel is no greater a risk than any other day-to-day activities..

Thank you for this encouraging and well reasoned post! Here is the link to support the facts you have mentioned https://www.eltiempo.com/economia/se...ionales-533854.

For people like me, who are dying to get back to Medellin, a 14 day mandatory quarantine and needing to go through a secondary Latin America country that is in the first wave of allow countries is not a problem.

[Elvis 2008]

https://www.eltiempo.com/economia/se...YwrbAgWi-JxaNo

It is official. I am confused as hell at the moment.

[Puntz79]

If theres the presence of humanitarian flights it means no other international flights. Until humanatarian flights become non existent then there will be no other international flights. Its you who don't have a clue.

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This is not true. Humanitarian flights are coordinated between the embassies of different nations and the airlines. That's why when one is scheduled, they go ahead and announce it (I. E. For American citizens, this airline, this date etc). International flights depend on bilateral agreements between the countries, humanitarian flights do not have anything to do with international. To give an example, Iberia and Avianca have operated humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. The same with Spirit and between the USA and Colombia. If Colombia has bilateral agreements with Mexico, Peru, Chile etc. It can restart international flights between Colombia and those countries, while also allowing humanitarian flights between Spain and Colombia. Just because there are humanitarian flights taking place, it does not mean international flights cannot restart.

On further note, the Ministry of Health mentioned today that international flights are eligible to resume after September 1st, the question will be what routes between what countries because those all depend on bilateral agreements, entry restrictions, etc. A number of factors. But what is clear is that the restriction to not allow international flights which has been in place since March, it will be removed as planned. Proof of a covid negative test will be required, and since it was stated that the reasoning behind lifting of the restrictions is "if biosecurity measures established are met by the airlines, the probability of a traveler being infected by Covid-19 is less than 1%" citing a recent study which concluded that the risk of contracting covid-19 during travel is no greater a risk than any other day-to-day activities. So my assumption is that they will not have a 14 day quarantine requirement, unless certain above risk countries are identified where cases are rising significantly. Some regional latin american countries probably will get the nod first before the USA but I don't think we will be far behind, since we have bilateral relations established with Colombia. But again, humanitarian flights and international flights are two very different things and just because one is operating between countries does not mean the other cannot between other countries until humanitarian flights end. That is silly.