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  1. #38740
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    Use your imagination, it is not that difficult they have competent staffs to perform these tasks.
    Another good post, Nounce. Yeah, in Cancun, they actually have a structure that you walk through and it measures temperatures automatically. Hotel costs are down due to so many empty rooms and air fares were cheap, so there is room to push up fares to compensate for services. In Cancun, the all inclusive pretty much had everything open including the gyms which my chicas loved and they even had nightly entertainment. They disinfected the rooms, common areas, and luggage like crazy, and some restaurants were shut down. The irony is the flight cost to Mexico City. It is 3 X the cost of flights to Cancun because so many airlines have been cut back on flights. I wonder if we see the same in Colombia.

    As far as what to do in Colombia, I laughed at that because I asked the same of Barranquilla. What is there to do besides fuck incredibly hot and sexual chicas? And I was told pretty much nothing. Still, I think there is a market for going somewhere to fuck, eat good food, hang in the sun, talk to cool women, and let Netflix be your entertainment. Maybe BAQ can equal Medellin now as a sex destination given both places are going to have little to do.

  2. #38739
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    But I'm seeing significant costs for Colombia. They need extra staff at every airport to check test results, take temperatures and verify valid Colombian health insurance. They need an isolation area to separate the arrivals waiting for processing from everyone else. They need some system to monitor everyone who is in quarantine. They need to figure out transportation. You can't just hop in a taxi to go to your quarantine and have the taxi driver go about his business. Then there's the monitoring of the monitors who make sure you don't break quarantine.
    The cost won't be that high because the airport won't operate at full capacity. They can reassign their existing idle staffs to different tasks. They can charge a fee for the special visa that covers the cost. Upon landing, SJ will be required to buy a SIM card at the gate and verify it is working on his phone for tracking purpose. He will be penalized USD10 K if his phone is off or his phone is not with him.

    Retrain taxi for transportation so the driver can have income without much additional expense to the government. SJ has to be in a place with 24 hours doorman. He will be penalized for USD 20 K if he violates the term of self isolation and USD 10 K will go to the doorman who reports the violation. Use your imagination, it is not that difficult they have competent staffs to perform these tasks.

  3. #38738
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    In Latin America Europe USA I think the 8's are my nexus / sweet spot for personality looks and fucking.

    https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/read...irst-birthday/
    Great link, MDS. Thing is that you may want different things with a working girl, SB, and GF / wife, but it is a great incredibly wise read. Honestly, if I had read that at 21, I would have considered it but ignored it.

  4. #38737
    Quote Originally Posted by Puntz79  [View Original Post]
    For tourists to spend money, the economy needs to open up. Colombia up until now has been rather slow to do this, but the more sectors of the economy they open up, even if in phases then it leads to the eventual tourism sector opening. Since they started to accept that this is something which they'll need to live with (there are only 150 viruses circulating every year), they are taking steps to open, albeit slow and at times nonsense (the only domestic flight is from Cucuta to Bucaramanga, because they have very low cases) the government realizes if they don't open it's going to create a lot more problems than ever imagined. A couple more domestic routes open up on September 1, and not even all airlines but it's a start. Airports filed for reopening in July but didn't receive approval until this week. Avianca bankrupt, LATAM bankrupt, etc. Keeping all those planes on the ground has taken its toll far worse than they could have imagined. We'll see what the coming weeks bring, Colombia locked down way too early and with the border closed, the results today show that lockdowns do not work and create more problems. The simple thinking of "everyone stay home for a couple months, then we'll open certain days to shop for certain people, masks are mandatory etc. " what did they accomplish? Nothing. Literally, nothing. And many people I know in Bogota and Medellin have told me they are absolutely sick and tired of this dragging on as long as it has.
    A lockdown doesn't work if the majority don't lock down. Other than a few days at the beginning, Colombia didn't lock down. We've had almost daily reports of the crowds in El Centro.

    I agree fully that the country has to open up before there's anything for the tourists to do. Colombia will do that, for better or worse, at their own pace. Speculation, rationalization and wishful thinking isn't going to make a difference.

  5. #38736
    Quote Originally Posted by SJobs  [View Original Post]
    My argument is that the impact of a controlled reopening of international flights to the virus spread is nearly zero, but it has lots of benefits.

    Let do a simple hypothetical; if the entry requirement is the following: passengers must fly in from a country with COVID totally under control and must show a negative test result within 24-hours of boarding the plane. They must go through a mandatory quarantine for 14 days upon arrival and purchase health insurance in Medellin. Moreover, they must pay for all costs associated with compulsory quarantine. Then I can confidently say the impact on the virus spread from this group of travelers is zero. It allows them to set up and test-out safety protocols for the next phase of reopening; furthermore, if the travelers are willing to pay for the personal cost for the self-quarantine, it also creates jobs for the local people.

    People who are willing to comply with this kind of scrutiny to travel to Medellin must either hopelessly in love with the 18-year-old paisas or trying to build important businesses in Medellin that are beneficial to the local economy (I'm doing both, but 18-year-old pussy is my real motivation). They are not the group who are infected with COVID and trying to spread to the local population..
    I can think of one reason why the Colombian government won't let you in on September 1st. They don't know you.

    I understand you want to get to Medellin, desperately. Colombia doesn't seem to care about your need to plow 18 year old Colombian pussy. I don't understand why they don't recognize your need.

    Based upon the entry requirements you listed, how many passengers do you think they could expect daily? Ask the board. How many of the guys here are willing to:

    1. Buy Colombian health insurance.

    2. Pay for preflight and post quarantine testing.

    3. Quarantine for 14 days.

    4. Pay for 24 hour monitoring to ensure they don't break quarantine.

    Some of the guys freak out if somebody buys a working girl dinner.

    Under the conditions you propose, I'm not seeing a huge demand. But I'm seeing significant costs for Colombia. They need extra staff at every airport to check test results, take temperatures and verify valid Colombian health insurance. They need an isolation area to separate the arrivals waiting for processing from everyone else. They need some system to monitor everyone who is in quarantine. They need to figure out transportation. You can't just hop in a taxi to go to your quarantine and have the taxi driver go about his business. Then there's the monitoring of the monitors who make sure you don't break quarantine.

    See'Mon. You do all those things and you're in Medellin, in your penthouse and you're going to twiddle your thumbs for 14 days? I'm not buying it. By day 2 you've got girls coming over. If security won't let them in, you slip them enough money to look the other way. You might even hire a helicopter to drop them on the roof.

    Why don't you just do what I suggested? Go to a Colombian consulate. Explain to them your business need to be in Colombia. Offer to meet or exceed any quarantine and testing requirement. Then ask if there's any way to get a special travel permit. It costs nothing to ask. There's a consulate in San Francisco.

  6. #38735
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Oh, sure let's do that. Colombia's #1 export is oil, and ConocoPhillips operates there. Do you know how oil and gas works?

    Well, here is how it goes. The American oil company, COP, just hands money over to Colombians and says "We want oil" and the Colombians just produce it. It is not like anyone from America needs to go there and do any work or monitor anything.

    I know a Colombian woman or two that you could hand money to right now, JJBee, and they will be producing you oil in no time.
    I guess I never realized that all the petroleum engineers from the US commute daily from their homes in the US to the countries where they work. I had always thought they lived in those countries for extended periods of time. Seems to be cheaper to pay a per diem rather than daily round trip airfare. I can't imagine the guys who work in the middle East. They're literally never leaving the airport in either country. Even the average of 8 hours each way daily to get to and from the oilfields in Colombia has to really suck.

    But just think of the frequent flyer miles.

    How are those oil companies making any money? Seriously, wouldn't it make more sense if they did what we already know they do? Have workers do a 3, 6 or 12 month tour in the country and then rotate out? In that case, whether international travel is open or closed has no major effect. Their workers and monitors are already in Colombia.

    I don't know this for certain, but I suspect that if ConocoPhillips needs to bring one of their corporate jets into Villavicencio with some of their people, they know who to call to get the authorization.

    But my question wasn't about ConocoPhillips. Up to this point, nobody has mentioned them. Everyone has been talking about the benefits of opening up tourism. If I'm not mistaken, you have made that claim more than once. My question remains, what are those tourists going to spend their money on?

    In order for the tourist to benefit the economy, the tourist needs to spend money. If you assume a cost of screening arrivals, just renting an apartment and ordering Rappi every day isn't going to do much. They need guys like SJobs dropping $700 nightly in Gusto along with another $700 for the gray market through drugs and pussy. They need the guys spending $500 a day in Cartagena and Bogota. They need the tourists buying everything from diamonds to leather goods. They need house parties in Guatape and loaded tour buses in Eje Cafetero.

    But Gusto is closed and the tour buses are parked. What are the tourists going to do? Except for SJobs. He's going to be loading up on Tussi and 18 year old pussy. What about the rest of them? What about the ones booking at the Charlee or Hotel Du Park Royale? With Parque Lleras closed, what are they going to do?

    Back to my question.

    Where are the Tourists going to spend their money?

  7. #38734

    My Thoughts On All This

    Quote Originally Posted by Puntz79  [View Original Post]
    For tourists to spend money, the economy needs to open up. Colombia up until now has been rather slow to do this, but the more sectors of the economy they open up, even if in phases then it leads to the eventual tourism sector opening. Since they started to accept that this is something which they'll need to live with (there are only 150 viruses circulating every year), they are taking steps to open, albeit slow and at times nonsense (the only domestic flight is from Cucuta to Bucaramanga, because they have very low cases) the government realizes if they don't open it's going to create a lot more problems than ever imagined. A couple more domestic routes open up on September 1, and not even all airlines but it's a start. Airports filed for reopening in July but didn't receive approval until this week. Avianca bankrupt, LATAM bankrupt, etc. Keeping all those planes on the ground has taken its toll far worse than they could have imagined. We'll see what the coming weeks bring, Colombia locked down way too early and with the border closed, the results today show that lockdowns do not work and create more problems. The simple thinking of "everyone stay home for a couple months, then we'll open certain days to shop for certain people, masks are mandatory etc. " what did they accomplish? Nothing. Literally, nothing. And many people I know in Bogota and Medellin have told me they are absolutely sick and tired of this dragging on as long as it has.
    Unfortunately the lock downs in Colombia have not been as effective as in other Countries as evidenced by the trending numbers to date. Everything is going up like a rocket ship headed to the moon.

    Tourism, well it's really a drop in the bucket for Colombia, what needs to happen is for the economy to open back up so the residents can spend money and revive things. Unfortunately, if they do so, things will get worse than they are now as evidenced by other Countries and in the USA that have opened up pre-maturely. The lockdowns have been effective in Countries with authoritarian rule, or citizens that abide by them, and have been less effective in third world countries.

    It's very sad, and a no win situation for Colombia at the current time. I remember the evening of March 13, a Friday night in Parque Lleras and Provenza. Things were in full swing as though nothing was wrong in the world, with all of the eating places, nightclubs, and bars overflowing. Then this all came to a screeching halt and has decimated things there, with places shuttered, and business's folding right and left. And the reality is that the majority of the patrons are Colombians, not tourists, which a lot of people think.

    This is just my opinion of things which many may disagree with.

  8. #38733
    Blakman, does the second hand translated source you quote compare and contrast "normalize" and "resume"? They are not necessarily the same thing. The Ministry of Transportation and the President have official announcements on the government web site. That is the place to find useful information on this subject. What the government has confirmed so far is that pilot flights between selected domestic cities will resume September 1. Bogota is among the cities. This was confirmed by the Bogota mayor today. Among the other confirmed destinations are Cucuta and San Andres. That is what is known at this point.

    Now we can get back to speculation and maybe some more of slapshot's content.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blakman  [View Original Post]
    The director of Colombia's civil aviation authority Aerocivil said Wednesday that it will take at least a year to normalize domestic and international air travel.

    In an interview with newspaper El Espectador, Aerocivil director Juan Carlos Salazar said that "in the best case scenario it will take us at least a year" to normalize air traffic.

    Salazar's best case scenario implies that Aerocivil's plans that were leaked last month and sought the normalization of international air traffic in November are off the table.

    According to the Aerocivil chief, Colombia's national government will lift its international flight ban on September 1 as planned, but the effective resumption of flights depends on foreign governments and mayors.

    Resuming that operation depends on many factors that are not under the control of the Civil Aeronautics and even the National Government, because we also have to wait for the decisions of other countries.

  9. #38732

    I like 8's

    Quote Originally Posted by SlapShot10  [View Original Post]
    I posted about this, maybe a couple pages back, now. However, it was mostly in Spanish, so maybe some did not understand.

    Pinky said she took another test and it was negative. So, despite her thinking she should take a blood test, I believe within a week she should have her period, and we'll be in the clear.

    Teaser for tonight...
    In Latin America Europe USA I think the 8's are my nexus / sweet spot for personality looks and fucking.

    https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/read...irst-birthday/

  10. #38731

    International flight news & speculation

    The director of Colombia's civil aviation authority Aerocivil said Wednesday that it will take at least a year to normalize domestic and international air travel.

    In an interview with newspaper El Espectador, Aerocivil director Juan Carlos Salazar said that "in the best case scenario it will take us at least a year" to normalize air traffic.

    Salazar's best case scenario implies that Aerocivil's plans that were leaked last month and sought the normalization of international air traffic in November are off the table.

    According to the Aerocivil chief, Colombia's national government will lift its international flight ban on September 1 as planned, but the effective resumption of flights depends on foreign governments and mayors.

    Resuming that operation depends on many factors that are not under the control of the Civil Aeronautics and even the National Government, because we also have to wait for the decisions of other countries.

  11. #38730
    Quote Originally Posted by MMHikeus  [View Original Post]
    Should be. It's a regular apartment building with some airbnbs.
    What you said is true. Some of the units are owned and people live there. So the building is open. I was over there inquiring a while back. But the story (then) was that they were not allowing visitors at that time.

    I would check that having visitors over is allowed now before renting.

  12. #38729

    Por favor amigo

    Quote Originally Posted by SlapShot10  [View Original Post]
    I posted about this, maybe a couple pages back, now. However, it was mostly in Spanish, so maybe some did not understand.

    Pinky said she took another test and it was negative. So, despite her thinking she should take a blood test, I believe within a week she should have her period, and we'll be in the clear.

    Teaser for tonight...
    Can you unblur her face for once.

    A body is good, but as most will agree the face is more important.

    A girl with a 10 body and 6-7 face is not what I want.

    A girl with a 10 body and a 6-7 face is mother nature giving men the middle finger.

  13. #38728
    Very nice talent you got there. Why don't you just buy a pregnancy test for 5 bucks (or whatever it costs down there) and make her take it in front of you? Easy peasy bruh.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlapShot10  [View Original Post]
    I posted about this, maybe a couple pages back, now. However, it was mostly in Spanish, so maybe some did not understand.

    Pinky said she took another test and it was negative. So, despite her thinking she should take a blood test, I believe within a week she should have her period, and we'll be in the clear.

    Teaser for tonight...

  14. #38727
    Quote Originally Posted by Puntz79  [View Original Post]
    the economy needs to open up.
    You're right. This thing has a. 04% mortality rate.

    But sure let's F up Colombia (and the world's) economies by shutting down, just so a few 90 year olds can live a few extra years.

  15. #38726
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    Do let us know how it turned out with pinky and her preggie story.
    Quote Originally Posted by SonicBoom1  [View Original Post]
    Didn't Pinky give you a pregnancy scare. Or was it Wifey? What's the update there?
    I posted about this, maybe a couple pages back, now. However, it was mostly in Spanish, so maybe some did not understand.

    Pinky said she took another test and it was negative. So, despite her thinking she should take a blood test, I believe within a week she should have her period, and we'll be in the clear.

    Teaser for tonight...
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