Medellin Reports

[JjBee62]

Because of Covid, I was looking at places and flights for 07 Feb 2021 to 16 Mar 2021 as I figured that would probably be realistic to get to MDE.

With the news of Possibly Nov 2020 for tourists I looked at 15 Nov 2020 to 14 Dec 2020 and the prices for the same flights and the same airbnb are higher for the 2020 trip as opposed to the 2021 trip. $825 mil COP more for flights and $687.5 mil COP more for the airbnb, and for a week less compared to a week more in 2021.

I prefer the monetary units be in COP so that everyone from all countries can be on the same page, not everyone here is from the USA.

This cuts into my monger budget! Although I may not be as cheap as Blakman was (hope he returns with more stories) I don't have the means of Sjobs and like to hunt for "Cheapie Charlie" pu*sy.

Any thoughts on the price differences for Nov-Dec2020 vs. Feb-Mar2021?

In my opinion, November might be overly optimistic. I hope to be wrong.

If you're on a budget, I'd do 2 things. First try to find ways to cut current spending and put more aside for your trip. Then I would push the trip back to a point where your budget will be less strained. You can also play around with your travel dates. Sometimes it's cheaper to stay a day longer, or to fly the next day.

There are plenty of ways to cut your costs while in Medellin. Some of them depend on your comfort zone and mongering style. Some, almost anyone can use.

1. Don't stay in Poblado. You can find suitable places for much less. Laureles is popular. You can also find places in Envigado and Sabaneta that will save you money. If you're comfortable in a very urban setting, you can save a lot by staying in El Centro. It's not for everyone, but there are some nice places for 300 k per week.

2. Use public transportation. If you're hitting the casas in El Centro, you can save 20 k per day or more by using the Metro or the buses. Sometimes, especially at night, a taxi or Uber is necessary, but for daytime excursions I almost always use buses or Metro.

3. Menu del DIA. You can go to a nice restaurant and spend 20-50 k on a meal, or you can go to a basic Colombian restaurant and order the menu of the day. Cost is from 8-15 k, depending on where you're at. Meal usually includes your choice of meat, soup or beans, a small salad with avocado, rice, potatoes and or yuca, a fried plantain and drink. You can find breakfast for 5-12 k at similar restaurants. If you're not comfortable walking around the neighborhoods looking for restaurants, try a mall. The food courts have lots of options. Mitos is very good. Macondos is pretty good and a bit cheaper.

4. Visit some casas. About 50 k gets you 30 minutes. If you do a casa during the day, it'll free up some money for having a girl come over at night.

5. If you're renting a full apartment with kitchen, buy some basic groceries to eat at least once a day in the apartment. Fruits, vegetables, milk, rice, eggs and chicken are all inexpensive.

[Gringo Trooper]

Thanks for the great reports PN, SlapShot, etc. We are living vicariously through you.

For those in MDE right now, how would you compare the scene in this recent Bogota SW'er video to what's happening in MDE?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gVVeoMjEkCA

I see a lot less auto traffic in the video for example, and am trying to figure out if that is the case in MDE also.

[Nounce]

On a side note I am a paid member and was wondering how many posts I need to not be moderated. I know, wrong thread but it's the most active!

A member for more than 6 months,

A minimum of 25 reports in the forum.

And not have any infraction.

I think it is when you become a senior member.

[Nounce]

This cuts into my monger budget! Although I may not be as cheap as Blakman was (hope he returns with more stories) I don't have the means of Sjobs and like to hunt for "Cheapie Charlie" pu*sy.

I would get in when I could and not worry about the price.

I prefer the monetary units be in COP so that everyone from all countries can be on the same page, not everyone here is from the USA.

There is another effect of this is that I personally just ignore it. You should list the actual price so people can help you better. If you own an Airbnb, and it is empty next week, what would you do vs it is empty 2 months from now.

[SpiderRider]

I don't know what effect to ratcheting up of the quarantine has had on the short time rooms and motels in El Centro. I know that Motel Ibiza and many of the other, more expensive motels are currently closed.

There are some Motels in San Antonio de Prado, which is located south of Itagui off the Autopista. At least one of them was open as of last Thursday and the rooms look pretty good, big jacuzzi, clean. Rooms were available by the hour, versus for 6 hours like Motel Ibiza and several others, so price should be pretty good.

If you're looking for a motel, that might be an option. Here are a few of the ones a quick search turned up:

Motel LOS Dos. Http://motellosdos.com.co.

Motel SolYLuna. https://m.facebook.com/solylunalaestrella/.

Motel Motivos. https://es-la.facebook.com/motelmotivos/.

Motel El Bosque. https://www.motelelbosque.com.co/.

Motel Aries. https://www.facebook.com/paquetesromanticosyocasioales/.

Thank you. I am very overdue for a 3-on-1 or 4-on1 in a jacuzzi room. Listo!

[Bill1963]

The whole reason I went into SA and the sugar baby thing is that I thought the sex was better when it was not a pure cash for sex transaction. I had some dummy on another forum go off on this and called all women on SA working girls. I am so tired of that. There is a huge distinction between a woman who will fuck anyone for cash and a woman who looks at money as part of the reason for sleeping with one individual man.

One guy said if there is any expectation of payment on the part of the woman, she is a working girl. Well then practically every woman I know then is a working girl including my mother. My mother told me that it is a man's responsibility to support his family, and I agree with that and always have. For guys spouting that working girl bullshit, I hope they have an 18 year old daughter wanting to marry a 25 year old unemployed druggie out of "love".

To me, it has always been a richer experience when it is not just sex for money, a component for sure, but not the whole thing.

The reason I brought that up is that I thought it was ridiculous to be paying women to sleep. The 2000 to 5000 dollar nightly prostitute rates bothered me as did spending hundreds of dollars taking a woman to dinner. I like the sugar baby concept of giving women a gift far more than paying her a wage. Besides the legal premise that gift giving is legal while paying a wage is not, there is also the self-esteem of the woman. No one wants to think of themselves as a working girl. Quite frankly, I don't think many women can hide that distinction so easily. Other people notice quite quickly if women are acting working girl like. People are constantly judging working girl like behavior especially with pretty women..

What website did you use to meet the 10/10 Mexicans?

[SlapShot10]

So now I am prepared to be here in Medellin at least until August of 2021. I stick to the girls who have not tried to rob me and the ones who give great performances. Pollo Negro is out!

Regal idea seeing the girls that don't rob you, PN. On a serious note, can you elaborate on your dates/plan, as it pertains to visa/permit, etc. ? Are you planning to apply for an extension? Do you have a visa? Thanks!

Pinky came over last night. Her hair is all natural, now. Body as good as always. We brought a tv up to the jacuzzi and were in there for hours upon hours. I must have had 14 Aguila Lights. Only one pop, but it was a good one. Got her Ubers each way, maybe 25 k total. She stayed the night. We discussed her moving in, as she's living in a dorm setup, with a 5-bedroom place that is only occupied by her and her brother. Her brother is always with his girlfriend, and she doesn't have money for rent. She's sweet, and fun, and a bit more mature than wifey. Also, she's hotter. I love her body. She was showing her T&A to my buddies on video chat, all night. We'll see. I'm not 100% committed to the idea, but it could work for both of us. She's also open to threesomes. Oh, on that note, I also received a WhatsApp message from the Bailarina. BEBE. She was asking if she could "rent" my extra room. I asked her why she thought I would want that, and why I get out of it. I explained there's no way I would expect her to pay half the rent, so why would I want to have to tip toe through her room to go workout, to go enjoy some fresh air, to use the jacuzzi, etc. She's one of those addicted to social media types, and I haven't had her one-on-one, so I don't even know about the chemistry. I think Pinky would genuinely be very thankful and gracious for my hospitality.

[PolloNegro]

Sunday July 26,2020.

I have been having $100 mil 3 some every day for the 2 -3 weeks. Trust me, the Medellin that you may have known before March 15,2020 is not the same Medellin that it is today. People are starving, businesses are suffering and Bogota has stated that it's healthcare. I cannot tell you the benefit of having a list of girls that you want to bang. Everyone knows that my girls of choice usually come from Centro, Parque Botero or Parque Berrios.

Maybe there are BM's who are not ready to admit it, but the Colombian economy is going down the drain and going down the drain rapidly. I have given up hope of leaving Colombia in September, so I began to look for an apartment for the long haul. Many agencies told me that I could not rent an apartment without a cedula extranjero, so I had kind of given up hope and decided that I would stay where I was for the remainder of the time in Colombia.

My girlfriend finally got a call from an apartment complex and I had already viewed many apartments and was only set up for failure when they found out that I was a gringo and she was from Venezuela. Well we found an apartment, a brand new apartment in Buenos Aires with 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, living room and sitting room for an incredible price. After looking over the paperwork once we viewed the apartment, the deal was a no brainer. So now I am prepared to be here in Medellin at least until August of 2021. (Apartment is unfurnished, but with the price of furniture and other items, each month I will buy a set of furniture piece by piece). My apartment came with utilities, cable and WiFi included for the year, that was one of my demands.

Girls are calling everyday trying to get me to have a date with them and no one has asked for more than $50 mil. I can tell you from the reports and things that I have seen with my own eyes, this Pandemic is not going to let up. I have gone from paying $150 mil per date down to nearly $40 mil per date.

Clearly no one on the board is addressing the fact that there are no new clients coming in or going out, the situation is this, you must find a way to earn a date with the clients who are here or you starve and clearly many of them are starving. As the devil's advocate, let me say this, you also must be extremely careful when dating any of these girls during these times as desperate times cause for desperate measures. I stick to the girls who have not tried to rob me and the ones who give great performances. Pollo Negro is out!

[Elvis 2008]

I have been mongering in Northern California for more than 15 years. The best deal and service I can get is the following:

Hourly rate 220-250 dollars for Asians, hourly rate 350-500 dollars for caucasians, hourly rate 300-400 to Brazilian and Latina. The rates I'm quoting are for acceptable girls, all in their mid 20's to early 30's. Younger and hotter girls with reliable reviews goes up to 500-800 per hour. One night will cost 2000-5000+. If you want extra service such as bareback+, it will cost more, some will insist on using a condom for everything, the Korean girls are a bit more lenient. If I rent a penthouse apartment in San Francisco, it cost about 7-10 k per months. (My one bedroom apartment cost 4200 a month). To give you a reference point, a 3-minute lap dance in a half decent strip joint with no touching costs 25-35 dollars.

The whole reason I went into SA and the sugar baby thing is that I thought the sex was better when it was not a pure cash for sex transaction. I had some dummy on another forum go off on this and called all women on SA working girls. I am so tired of that. There is a huge distinction between a woman who will fuck anyone for cash and a woman who looks at money as part of the reason for sleeping with one individual man.

One guy said if there is any expectation of payment on the part of the woman, she is a working girl. Well then practically every woman I know then is a working girl including my mother. My mother told me that it is a man's responsibility to support his family, and I agree with that and always have. For guys spouting that working girl bullshit, I hope they have an 18 year old daughter wanting to marry a 25 year old unemployed druggie out of "love".

To me, it has always been a richer experience when it is not just sex for money, a component for sure, but not the whole thing.

The reason I brought that up is that I thought it was ridiculous to be paying women to sleep. The 2000 to 5000 dollar nightly prostitute rates bothered me as did spending hundreds of dollars taking a woman to dinner. I like the sugar baby concept of giving women a gift far more than paying her a wage. Besides the legal premise that gift giving is legal while paying a wage is not, there is also the self-esteem of the woman. No one wants to think of themselves as a working girl. Quite frankly, I don't think many women can hide that distinction so easily. Other people notice quite quickly if women are acting working girl like. People are constantly judging working girl like behavior especially with pretty women.

SJobs, I have noticed similar pricing structure to you but it is less in my area because I live in a place where living expenses are lower. The reason California is more expensive than other parts of the country IMO is because living expenses are so high. The question then becomes what is your time worth and can you achieve time flexibility to visit women other lower cost parts of the world so you do not have to pay the high California prices.

Recently, I have quit the SB thing in the USA. It was not the expense as much as the legal issues. The male sex drive has been too demonized in the USA, and that is what the crackdown on human trafficking is, a way for law enforcement to steal money from those in the P4P game. The legal situation has also IMO inflated P4P costs in the USA.

The irony about Colombia is that I found the women to be much LESS greedy than women in the USA It may be that the women are much less experienced but also I think that there is something to be said about just meeting an American man. The best experiences I had were when no price was mentioned. The most I paid for an evening in Colombia was $140, and the average was $100 with no by the hour crap.

For all I have knocked Covid, honestly, I have been taking more advantage of the disruption than anyone I know. Covid has allowed remote access to work more possible than ever before. While most people are scared of flying, I have taken advantage of cut rate prices and empty resorts in Mexico. Officially, you are supposed to travel to Mexico for essential purposes. In reality, no one asks you anything. I have been cementing relationships with the 10's I have met in Mexico City, and the traffic here is blissfully way down.

By getting myself a job with great time flexibility, I have been able to travel to Mexico often. I took a Mexican beauty to a resort where I paid half price and spent 3 days with her. The total I paid her was $600 for all three days.

I was at her place yesterday. The most upscale neighborhood in Mexico City is Polanco, and she lives there because it is safe. Quite frankly, it was refreshing to see this beauty be so happy with so little possessions and a tiny place. Thing is she is paying only $450 a month for her place. I have seen furnished places in almost as nice parts of town for $600, and I am thinking of moving her there and flying into Mexico City, only a 2 hour flight, to get my sexual needs met. She was excited at the idea. And this girl is so hot that when she was walking down the ramp to meet me in Cancun all the Mexican cab drivers were hooting and hollering at her.

Thing is that it is not just her. I have three others I am working on. I may do this one and another woman and with the others just do PPM action. There are a ton of hot women here from Venezuela and Colombia, and there is a smattering of Europeans as well. One Vennie I met has done bikini modeling all over the Americas. She is a good actress to boot. She is a 10 in terms of looks, personality, and performance.

I am not sure this will last. All the women I met lost their jobs due to Covid. Anyway, I think the notion of paying $2000 to $5000 a night now is batshit crazy. I am hoping once Colombia opens up that I will be able to settle on the best women there. I can keep Colombia for 5 to 7 day adventures and Mexico for weekend excursions. From a pussy point of view, although Colombia is off limits, Covid for me has been a godsend.

[JjBee62]

I don't know what effect to ratcheting up of the quarantine has had on the short time rooms and motels in El Centro. I know that Motel Ibiza and many of the other, more expensive motels are currently closed.

There are some Motels in San Antonio de Prado, which is located south of Itagui off the Autopista. At least one of them was open as of last Thursday and the rooms look pretty good, big jacuzzi, clean. Rooms were available by the hour, versus for 6 hours like Motel Ibiza and several others, so price should be pretty good.

If you're looking for a motel, that might be an option. Here are a few of the ones a quick search turned up:

Motel LOS Dos. Http://motellosdos.com.co.

Motel SolYLuna. https://m.facebook.com/solylunalaestrella/.

Motel Motivos. https://es-la.facebook.com/motelmotivos/.

Motel El Bosque. https://www.motelelbosque.com.co/.

Motel Aries. https://www.facebook.com/paquetesromanticosyocasioales/.

[SJobs]

I understand it is confusing and I am not here to argue. I only want to share what I know. I know US citizen can travel to Germany from other countries. I read their restrictions and it is similar to US restrictions. It specifically mentions it is not based on nationality.

It's not based on nationality, some of my friends confirmed it by personal experience. If a country has any sense they will realize how unreasonable and ineffective it is to ban travelers base on their nationalities.

[Nounce]

I believe the EU restrictions are based on country of residence. That being. Where you are a legal resident (citizen, landed immigrant, work visa holder, etc.) Canadians can go to Europe now, at least parts of it, while US residents cannot. In that case it has nothing to do with what flight you come in on. Either passport or document supporting residence.

I understand it is confusing and I am not here to argue. I only want to share what I know. I know US citizen can travel to Germany from other countries. I read their restrictions and it is similar to US restrictions. It specifically mentions it is not based on nationality.

[Luminus]

On a side note I am a paid member and was wondering how many posts I need to not be moderated. I know, wrong thread but it's the most active!

• A member for more than 6 months,

• A minimum of 25 reports in the forum.

• And not have any infraction.

[Luminus]

Because of Covid, I was looking at places and flights for 07 Feb 2021 to 16 Mar 2021 as I figured that would probably be realistic to get to MDE.

With the news of Possibly Nov 2020 for tourists I looked at 15 Nov 2020 to 14 Dec 2020 and the prices for the same flights and the same airbnb are higher for the 2020 trip as opposed to the 2021 trip. $825 mil COP more for flights and $687.5 mil COP more for the airbnb, and for a week less compared to a week more in 2021.

I prefer the monetary units be in COP so that everyone from all countries can be on the same page, not everyone here is from the USA.

This cuts into my monger budget! Although I may not be as cheap as Blakman was (hope he returns with more stories) I don't have the means of Sjobs and like to hunt for "Cheapie Charlie" pu*sy.

Any thoughts on the price differences for Nov-Dec2020 vs. Feb-Mar2021?

[Lefeu]

That was 20 years ago. Prices haven't gone up?

Sorry, I did not mean to imply that prices have held steady. Indeed, they have gone up along with prices in general.

However, there was an evolution. For example, in the early 2000's, Korean nationals were granted special status similar to Japanese nationals and EU nationals. Hence, a person with a Korean passport could enter the US without a visa and get a 90-day stay from the day they enter the US. Soon after, there were plane load after plane load of Korean WGs. I discovered them in 2008 and I have not attempted to look for a white girl ever since. The Asian WGs charge a lot less and are so much nicer. That allowed prices to plateau a bit for those who were satisfied with Asians.

As for white girls, I switched to FKKs in Germany, where a session used to cost 50 Euros for half an hour. This was in 2006 and the official cost of a session at the FKKs is still 50 Euros today. A lot of eye candy was lost as a result.