Medellin Reports

[Knowledge]

The best I can do as a devil's advocate is assume for some there is perceived value in hairdo, make up, and often in plastic surgery. There is also a significant difference between dealing with the girls on an every day basis like some of us vs. Dealing with them for a few days at a time a few times per year. That's all I've got.

The monger scholars go quiet & become defensive. They'll never keep it honest, they want you to ride the wave & blow money like they did. But I know better! To all Mongers who address the useless over spending, I salute you. Pollo negro is out!

[JjBee62]

I agree completely. The "weekend warrior /5 day millionaire" type punter can have more impact on smaller markets that are focused on them (E. G. Thailand honky tonk zones, Medellin's Parque Lleras, or the Dominican Republic's So-Sewer). In the wider more real world where local punters greatly outnumber the outlier foreigners the holiday high rollers are like a winning lottery ticket. Remember when Blakman saw a girl he dated for six figures at ground zero. There are only so many opportunities like that for the girls. Their real world expenses continue even when the big scores don't happen.

I remember sitting with one of the better known mongers in Medellin and several others, along with a guy who is well known for being generous with the women. The one guy was playfully griping with the generous guy that he needed to get to the women first before they get spoiled. The generous guy routinely showed up with models who were at the peak of their game.

I think most of us realize, what goes up usually comes back down. The model who would turn her nose up at 800 k last year is taking 200 k without a problem this year. That girl with the rather impressive boob job who hangs out at the Raudal corner was probably charging 300 k in Lleras 5 or 6 years ago.

[Mr Enternational]

I checked abbreviations for the site but BM is not there. Black male? Bored monger?

LOL. I am usually the one scratching my head about abbreviations. Board Member.

[Knowledge]

I will speak for myself here. I must own up to being a fool at times. I hope it doesn't happen much more often than it does for anyone else; I am happy and that's more important to me than random opinions. The only advice I remember giving was to address links about virus management in the Philippines to people in the Philippines threads who might be interested in it. I directed that advice to the moderator, who may decide to delete other parts of the thread that offer nothing beyond personal criticism of someone unknown to the critic.

The advice I would give about coronavirus is to seek advice from physicians and public health officials. There are many readily available sources. For me, this website is not one of them.

Exactly what advice did Knowledge give? Can you quote it?

[JjBee62]

The thing some people do not understand is that Colombia is a 3rd world country. The min Montly salary is 980.657 cop which increased since last year which comes around 280 usd a month. Ain't no way any normal Colombian will pay a million cop to fuck a girl unless he is a narco. So I am sure those gilrs charge that money to the ones they know are gringos, they know you make more money than the average Colombian because you are staying in penthouse in the most upscale neighborhood and they tell each other that gringos have money overcharge them because when there is drought the take the 70.000 cop that the average Colombiano has believe me unless she has a western union papi sending her money for rent and other stuff.

"The thing some people don't understand. " That's an entire section at the library.

Have you ever heard this line? "A woman is just a life support system for a vagina. " If this is how someone views women, all pussy should be the same price. There should be a world index of the pussy commodity.

Except that's wrong. Would you pay more more a pussy tight enough to crack walnuts, than for a pussy that couldn't hold in a coconut? Would you pay more for a pussy that's clean and sweet, than for one that smells like the shithouse on a tuna boat?

Already, even if we just focus on the pussy, some pussy is worth more. Now expand your vision. Would you rather look at a stomach that looks like it took a grenade, a stomach that you have to move to even find the pussy, or a stomach you can bounce a quarter off of? Now everyone should see, there's more than just the pussy.

Breasts, ass, face, arms, legs, hair and even feet. We all have preferences. Just limiting our decision to the purely physical aspects, most of us realize there's things we would pay more for.

If you walk into a casa and of the 10 girls, 9 have a 50 k price tag and the last costs 100 k, which do you choose? What if the 9 are either fat, ugly, old or all 3, while the 100 k girl is a knockout? Do you grab a fugly, or do you pull out the other 50 k?

If you stick purely with the physical aspect, there's got to be an upper limit, but what is it? Think of the most beautiful woman you can imagine. Model, movie star, pornstar. Assuming money wasn't an issue, how much would you pay for a one-time shot at her? You're Bezos for a day. Would you pay $50 k? $100 k? $1 million for that? Somebody would.

But, and this might be blasphemy to some, there's much more to each woman than just her body. Would you rather have a woman who fucks you like someone just gave her the key to the candy store, or a woman who just lays there waiting for instructions? Would you rather have a woman who gets and laughs at your jokes, or a woman who just gives you a dumb look?

Again, some things might make the experience worth more to most of us.

The woman I talked about probably needing 2 million to go to El Centro isn't a hooker. I wouldn't even consider her a non-pro. She has a job and an education. She lives in a nice house in a nice area. Her family has a good situation. She's never had to survive on arroz and huevo. If you have enough to compare you'll see a difference between the typical paisa prepago and the middle to upper class paisas. Doesn't mean there aren't plenty of great bodies, but there are subtle differences.

If you stick with straightforward hookers, you should never need to pay more than 300 k, even though some want much more. If you want a woman who isn't a hooker, you can either try to win them over, or start counting out money until you see them flinch.

The thing some people don't understand is, every woman isn't available for the same price.

I'm not advocating paying a million or more for pussy, just trying to explain why some do.

[Knowledge]

I agree completely. The "weekend warrior /5 day millionaire" type punter can have more impact on smaller markets that are focused on them (E. G. Thailand honky tonk zones, Medellin's Parque Lleras, or the Dominican Republic's So-Sewer). In the wider more real world where local punters greatly outnumber the outlier foreigners the holiday high rollers are like a winning lottery ticket. Remember when Blakman saw a girl he dated for six figures at ground zero. There are only so many opportunities like that for the girls. Their real world expenses continue even when the big scores don't happen.

What is this fixation mongers have about what another guy pays for sex? I could not care less if some bloke pays 1,000,000 pesos for what I've paid 30,000 pesos for. It is his money. It is indeed helpful when you quote the going rate but what business is it of mine if someone pays above that rate? Why should I be concerned if I am in a restaurant and some bloke decides to tip the waitress US $1000 when I tip the same waitress US $10. Why would guys who are getting pussy worry about such extraneous things? Now if they are not getting poontang I would understand.

[Surfer500]

Can I ask if you are suggesting the larger ones budget the more they should pay for X hooker? 2 different mongers 2 different budgets?

Do you do that anywhere else in life? Do you pay less or more than the guy across from you in a bar restaurant or department store based on your budget that day?

The price of prostitutes is negotiable, you dictate the market price not them.

Do you think the most expensive hookers provide commensurate value, I think not.

I've mongered in several very expensive cities around the world, I'm here to say the more you pay the less you get.

Ala SJ $550.00 for 1.5 hrs in Tokyo, I'm guessing I wouldn't give $0.55 for what he recd.

Different strokes.

Post-script my point is there are guys that have a style of mongering that is for the greater good of all mongers, and there are some that just damage the market for the rest.

I didn't know you could negotiate with hookers, I have always just accepted their price, but my experience is extremely limited, and it didn't occur to me that perhaps I have been paying more for less all along, or maybe vice-versa.

[Turgid]

Can I ask if you are suggesting the larger ones budget the more they should pay for X hooker? 2 different mongers 2 different budgets?

Do you do that anywhere else in life? Do you pay less or more than the guy across from you in a bar restaurant or department store based on your budget that day?

The price of prostitutes is negotiable, you dictate the market price not them.

Do you think the most expensive hookers provide commensurate value, I think not.

I've mongered in several very expensive cities around the world, I'm here to say the more you pay the less you get.

Ala SJ $550.00 for 1.5 hrs in Tokyo, I'm guessing I wouldn't give $0.55 for what he recd.

Different strokes.

Post-script my point is there are guys that have a style of mongering that is for the greater good of all mongers, and there are some that just damage the market for the rest.

What is this fixation mongers have about what another guy pays for sex? I could not care less if some bloke pays 1,000,000 pesos for what I've paid 30,000 pesos for. It is his money. It is indeed helpful when you quote the going rate but what business is it of mine if someone pays above that rate? Why should I be concerned if I am in a restaurant and some bloke decides to tip the waitress US $1000 when I tip the same waitress US $10. Why would guys who are getting pussy worry about such extraneous things? Now if they are not getting poontang I would understand.

[Lugnut]

Are you always this reckless with giving life or death advice to others?

So lets hear how you are going to guarantee this won't ever happen in Colombia to anyone reading this.

Perhaps you think anyone that ever listens to a fool like you deserves to die.

Exactly what advice did Knowledge give? Can you quote it?

[HBoy54]

A BM in another thread reported that one day

I checked abbreviations for the site but BM is not there. Black male? Bored monger?

[FortuneWaffers]

If I notice any type of foul odor emanating from a woman's vagina, it's a turn off to bang them. Smelling something like rotten fish while pounding on them is a boner killer.

Just my two pesos on the topic.

Can always go anal. At least that's expected to smell a certain way, a rotten pussy by far the worst smells of this life time. With that said, I found the women in Medellin to be relatively clean downstairs, even from the Botero circuits.

[Brother P]

I much prefer Cartagena because of the beach but Poblado was really nice and upscale with prices to match. Great coffee shops boutiques. Not if you prefer more local maybe stay away.

I'll probably do a week in Medellin and a week in Cartagena.

Chicas in Medellín are serious about Facebook! I already have 3 solid cuties lined up, plus 5 or 6 other contacts.
I have no contacts for Cartagena. We shall see.

Hope the virus lets up!

[Brother P]

It depends on what you want and need. I used to stay in Poblado, but for the past few years, I have stayed in Laureles. I prefer it. I've been traveling to Medellin 15 years. I know plenty of girls. I prefer my privacy and I like the apartment I use, which is not fancy like some in Poblado, but has its own jacuzzi on the roof. The supermarkets are close, the stores are close, plenty of taxis. Neighborhood is quiet. While there are gringos in Laureles, I rarely see them in the barrio where I stay. And, no offense, I prefer that way. You have Unicentro Mall. You can get to Molinos mall. It's a bit of a closer tax ride for girls coming from Bello, Popular, San Javier, Las Amercas, etc. Prices are cheaper.

If and when I want to go to Lleras or Santa Fe mall, it's a 13 mil taxi ride.

If you don't know any Spanish and have a need to be around gringos and go to Hooters, then Laureles is not for you.

My Spanish is decent. I've spent a lot of time in the DR the last 10 years. I stayed in poblado twice in 2010. But now everyone is recommending Laureles. Ill find something nice there. I plan to do all Facebook pulls.

My goal is to build contacts, relax and stay out of the way! LOL. Thanks!

[PolloNegro]

A BM in another thread reported that one day, instead of going with one of his regular chicks, he decided to get a chick that cost him 3 times his usual amount. I asked what was the difference in service levels between the two. He refused to answer, yet accused me of worrying about what he pays. No. I was just genuinely curious what added value he got from the one at 3X as much as the others.

When I choose a Lexus over a Ford Pinto, I know I am getting more insulation for a quiter cabin and a softer suspension for a smoother ride. When I choose the 500K chick over the 150K chick, what additional features and options is the 350K difference getting me?

The monger scholars go quiet & become defensive. They'll never keep it honest, they want you to ride the wave & blow money like they did. But I know better! To all Mongers who address the useless over spending, I salute you. Pollo negro is out!

[JjBee62]

A BM in another thread reported that one day, instead of going with one of his regular chicks, he decided to get a chick that cost him 3 times his usual amount. I asked what was the difference in service levels between the two. He refused to answer, yet accused me of worrying about what he pays. No. I was just genuinely curious what added value he got from the one at 3X as much as the others.

When I choose a Lexus over a Ford Pinto, I know I am getting more insulation for a quiter cabin and a softer suspension for a smoother ride. When I choose the 500K chick over the 150K chick, what additional features and options is the 350K difference getting me?

I was just about to write something about that.

First thing, there's a lot of personal preference involved. For some people this will be meaningless.

Let's start at the bottom. The cheapest of the street girls. Maybe 25 k and at that price you're maybe thinking she's overpriced. 2 doors down there are 2 girls, both want 40 k. One doesn't look much better than the 25 k girl, but the other one does. You might feel the best one is worth the extra price. Or you might just say "fuck it" stick her in doggy and save 15 k. Do you feel the better looking girl is worth a 60% markup?

Now let's move up the food chain. You've got a Laureles PP girl for 100 k for an hour, or a Facebook girl for 150-200 k for at least 1 hour. Assuming they both look the same, why pay more? The PP girl has one advantage. You don't have to wait for her. She's also got a disadvantage. You're getting 1 hour, no more, unless you want to pay for another. The Facebook girl has 2 advantages. First, if she's enjoying your company, she'll still be there 3 hours later. Second, unless you're hitting her up late night, you're probably her first customer of the day. Are those things worth a 50-100% markup? Are they worth an 800% markup over the 25 k fugly?

Now let's move up to the 500 k and up girls. With many of them you're not paying for a session. You're paying for an entire evening with drinking, dining and dancing before heading back to your place. If you're making it enjoyable for her, she's not going until morning. Is that worth the markup from Facebook?

If you're just looking for a hole to stick your dick in, take the 25 k girl. If you're looking for a SJobs evening, take the 500 k. You're not going to get that 25 k girl to spend all that time with you.

The performance you get from the girl has little to do with what you pay. It depends on how much energy the girl has and on how well you're pleasing her. If you're getting a lousy session from a 500 k girl, you're not doing it right. If you're getting a lousy session from a 25-40 k girl, it might be because she's worn out.

My take on it is simple. I pay what I want for what I want. If what I want doesn't want to go at that price I move on.