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  1. #63737
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    The same guys flying them to Cartagena, Cancun, Europe, giving them $300 for a couple of hours, etc.
    Why would someone fly someone out for a couple of hours as opposed to the whole day? Who on here has posted that? Who here flies women to Europe?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I do not have any friends that are mongers that would do that but evidently many guys do because it has been announced enough on this board.
    For me, it is two full days travel time to Cartagena. Cancun is a 2 hour flight. So if the gal's flight to Cancun and whatever I am paying her are less than what I make in 2 days, it makes sense.

    But yeah, I guess you do not know anyone making four or even three figures for one day's work.

  2. #63736

    Do I have this right?

    I'm going to Medellin soon and now that I'm thinking about it, Bogota might beat Medellin in terms of quality to price ratio. You can get a 7 for a reasonable price in Santa Fe vs the same thing in Lleras for twice the amount.

    I'm not sure anything beats Santa Fe in terms of ease and price for the same quality but just to make sure let me recap everything in Medellin. And you guys can fill what I'm missing. There's:

    Loutron for 400 k.

    La isla for 550 k and 50 k cover.

    Fase dos idk prices but every time I went in 2022 I didn't see anything good.

    Luna lunera idk prices same deal as fase dos.

    Centro walkers I heard quality is down. Prices still cheap.

    Centro casas. I have never been.

    Laureles casas. Like energy. Overhyped. I forgot prices.

    Gustos 150 to 300 dollars lmaoooooo.

    Online:

    Mileroticos I think it's like 200-300 an hour for their place and 300- 400 for domicilio.

    Pasionprepago same as mileroticos but I have this one girl charging me 500 for 30 minutes at my place and she ain't even hot?

    Photoprepago same deal as mileroticos.

    Facebook. I recently started this by looking at the Medellin hall of shame group and finding girls on the public friends lists of guys there and adding a bunch of them. Facebook now recommends me girls. Idk about prices because I haven't asked. I haven't seen these girls on mileroticos. They seem responsive.

    Seeking arrangements. Haven't asked prices haven't gotten membership but quality seems good and the consensus seems to be that it's like 25% more expensive than mileroticos.

    Medellin vs Bogota.

    Medellin is generally safer imo vs Santa Fe. That's how I feel.

    Santa Fe is very convenient. And good quality to price ratio vs Medellin venues.

    Paisas are friendlier than rolas and provide better service imo.

    Online anything sucks in Bogota. I was so consistently disappointed I just stopped looking. Waste of time.

    Am I missing any venues? Any hidden gems?

  3. #63735
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Fucked a hooker in Thailand a couple of weeks ago. Her beach hooker coworker met a guy from California a couple of months ago while out hooking. The guy went back home and sent her $135 every 2 days for 2 months then came back and married her. (She showed me the wedding pictures.) he is still waiting on the paperwork for her to go back home with him. He does not speak Thai and she can hardly speak English.

    Stranger things have happened than a trick buying an iPhone for a hooker.
    Every time I hear a story like this, the guy happens to be from California. Well, if he got FU money, not a big deal. But marrying a hooker who can potentially get half of his assets is bizarre and can't even compare to buying an iPhone or sending a few thousand bucks.

  4. #63734
    It's probably because I look thirstier and sleazier. I get propositioned whenever I'm there. Carrera 33 and the quebrada bridge are clean zones. The bars and discos between la 10 and la 8 are hot spots. I'm not a regular so what happens to me is more anecdotal than scientific. As you know, in Colombia there is a very fine line between single girls and street walkers. It's not common for girls out for civilian activities to do it without a mixed group of friends. La 10 and Lleras now make Plaza Botero feel like Disneyland. The transformation since the pandemic is really striking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I have been up in Provenza a few times in the last month on a Friday night, and there are a lot of single girls walking around, but I did not seen any tale tell signs, like around LLeras and Calle 10 of SW's giving males the google eye and hoots as they pass by.

    Perhaps I have totally missed seeing any walkers up there during my very brief past visits, unless of course your referring to Prepagos who only work the Internet, versus being walkers.

    I can't envision the SW scene spilling over into Provenza, but who knows, with all the increase in tourism, maybe it already has if that is what your aware of, and if so, are you aware of any specific locations in Provenza where SW's have been spotted as that would be interesting information. Kind of like around Dominos on Calle 10, but in Provenza. I always look around the bridge crossing the Quebrada when I'm up there but haven't noticed anything, as my monger radar is always on when I'm up in that area.

    As far as the politics for Provenza, I have no clue about this.

  5. #63733
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    But what's the point?? The issue is that it exists. And if one has a 9 figure net worth he's more likely not taking that approach. Mongering in itself is a hobby or luxury. It's not a necessity. And just with all other luxuries there's levels to it. A hand bag can cost 100 $ or 100,000.

    You only live once so whatever your budget live to the fullest and stop worrying about what others have. It's amazing how some guys want to count girls money then get upset about it. If a girl is smart enough to hustle a good life for herself more power to her. As for me I spend what I want as long as I get what I'm paying for.
    Guys who worry about what other guys are paying for pussy are budget conscious perhaps because they do not have a whole lot to work with and are afraid that if guys give hookers too much then those chicas will expect more from other guys including themselves. I feel for them but I am out to enjoy myself and will pay a chica an amount that I believe will yield me good service but will not overspend.

  6. #63732
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    First time in Colombia, he had fallen in love with her (and she wasn't super gorgeous or anything). He wanted me to explain that he was going to send her $250 every week until he could come back and marry her. He'd known her for 3 days.
    Fucked a hooker in Thailand a couple of weeks ago. Her beach hooker coworker met a guy from California a couple of months ago while out hooking. The guy went back home and sent her $135 every 2 days for 2 months then came back and married her. (She showed me the wedding pictures.) he is still waiting on the paperwork for her to go back home with him. He does not speak Thai and she can hardly speak English.

    Stranger things have happened than a trick buying an iPhone for a hooker.

  7. #63731
    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    $300 is 200,000 Colombian Pesos. I know a few girls that might get that much one or twice a month but consistently? Probably can count the number of girls who can pull that in on a consistent basis on one hand. And most of them are touring Europe or the Middle East. They aren't sitting at home waiting for their "I-phone" to ring.
    $300 is $1,200,000 COP I don't quite know what happened. I proof-read before posting.

  8. #63730
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnS123  [View Original Post]
    I am with you on the fact that no one has a right to fuck anyone based on what they think that person should accept. There is no benefit in being bitter over someone not accepting what you deem they should accept. The same girl who has taken 200,000 COP might get $300 USD. *That same girl might get flown out to the DR, France, or Croatia.

    However, we can also acknowledge idiocy.

    Case in point. Agent 0, Former Wizards NBA star who earned nearly $200 M (this does not include any endorsement money), and now has one of the biggest sports podcasts which will undoubtedly land him a huge media contract if he decides to partner, has more fucking money than anyone who has read this damn forum at any point. And he manages to refrain from gallivanting with and spending excessive amount of money on working girls, because, no matter how you cut it, it would be fucking dumb. Openly talks about it on his streams.

    "Women out here they want the Birkin Bags, they want to eat. Like 3 x a day. Fuck. *They want to go out places and they don't want to go to regular places, they want to go to all the expensive ass places. *Movies, first class tickets to shit, they want to go on vacation. There are a lot of things that come with, you know, when I can just pay $200-$250 and get right to the good stuff."

    He also lays out how he "shops" on Instagram, and his DMs are all hoes. And he laughs at some of their prices, because any sane person would laugh at $5,000, no matter how much money they have.

    So a 9 figure net worth individual doesn't have to wine and dine working girls. To do so is a choice, not a state of normalcy simply because one has FU money. That "level" of paying far more than you need to has nothing to do with having a staggering net worth. Or is it impossible for someone with a stratospheric net worth to do something stupid as fuck with their money?
    If the girl wants to be stupid about how much she will accept then fuck her on to the next one until you find the one who will accept your price and / or your risk-level of service. And the same thing goes in reverse, I'm sure eventually after declining numerous fair offers, she will find some idiot willing to pay $300 usd for some mediocre covered service with a washed up be.

    Tch with bolt-ONS and a botox ass LOL. To each his or her own.

  9. #63729
    I don't have issues with girls getting as much as they can while young with sugar daddies. It's the ones that scam guys online and never met the person that I have problems with.

  10. #63728
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Looks like the only Colombianas you are dealing with are dirt poor ones. Those who have no flooring in their house, starving every day, etc. Thank god, I have met different girls and our paths with the ones you mentioned do not cross.

    The girls I have had arrangements with have flooring in their house, have TVs and computers, and don't have to eat out of trash containers. I have never been asked to buy them a computer, and never offered them to buy one (why would I? Once I was asked to help with repairing one due to the screen damage. I don't buy chicks iPhones and never been asked to buy one. I would only do that If I were in a relationship, there is nothing wrong with buying your GF an iPhone or a computer for her birthday. I can, and do once in a while, buy chicks some sexy lingerie, or a dress. Maybe a sexy perfume. Because I enjoy when the chick I have an arrangement with, looks sexy and smells good.
    Where did you get that from? I just repeated to you, for at least the 20th time, I don't do street girls, whether in El Centro or Parque Lleras. Never have. Even if I did, why would you, or anyone, assume that the girls are starving every day, or have no flooring? Why flooring? That's just so fucking random?

    I know you don't speak Spanish, but do you at least speak English? Because you don't seem able to understand it.

    I'm just baffled here. Eating out of trash containers? I understand what you're trying to do. You're trying to say that I've only fucked homeless women who are in every way disgusting. Right? But that's fucking ridiculous. Other than the occasional casa, which I haven't done in 3 years, and Las Islas, I've almost exclusively used Facebook. Not sure how many homeless women, eating out of trash containers, keep active on Facebook. Do you have any statistics on that?

    I'm trying to keep on subject, but you do make it difficult. Let's start with a simple question. Are you Dramafree? I'm assuming you aren't, but you seem to think you are. Let me refresh your memory.

    Back to the subject, legit college students. Dramafree claimed all of the college students without computers, stated they didn't need a computer, when he asked. I'm assuming he asks because he is willing to buy them a computer. Otherwise, why ask? Would you ask a woman if she needs taxi money and then refuse to give it if she needed it? Answer the question. Do you believe no legit college student would accept the offer of a free computer?
    Nobody mentioned you, until you decided, once again, to jump into a discussion without having any idea what the discussion is about.

  11. #63727
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Who are these guys buying hookers newest iPhones? I don't know a single monger who would do that. We are talking about prepagos, right? If we are, then it makes zero sense to buy an expensive phone to some random hooker that charges you by the hour. Real relationships or some long-term SB-SD arrangements is a different story.
    Who? Guys who think they're in an exclusive SB / SD relationship with them, guys who think they are just "supplementing their income" and many other types. I'll even give you an example.

    About 25 years ago, one of my best friends, and fuck buddies, was a stripper. She was one of those who really was a college student when she started stripping. She had 2 special customers. One of them took her on trips all over the world, gave her the down-payment for her house and bought her an Infiniti. The other one dropped a few thousand on her each month and bought her a Harley, just a Sportster, but still a chunk. Both thought she was exclusive with them.

    My old roommate had guys buying her iMacs, DSLR cameras, or just giving her ridiculous money. And those were guys who had only seen her on webcam. There is no shortage of guys who'll spend crazy money on a girl they barely know.

    I even told this one before. A Venezuelan waitress I had gotten to know brought a gringo to me one morning while I was having breakfast. He wanted me to translate. First time in Colombia, he had fallen in love with her (and she wasn't super gorgeous or anything). He wanted me to explain that he was going to send her $250 every week until he could come back and marry her. He'd known her for 3 days.

    Why does it have to be a 6 mil peso iPhone? She can get a used one, 12 or 13 model for much less. Average Lleras hoe can make 300 mil cop per night, serving just 1 dude. 5 times x week = 1,500,000 cop. Do your math. Its not a rocket science. These hoes can make much more than a cashier at Burger King and can easily afford a freaking iphone or a computer. Do you realize she can get a payment plan and pay it off over a year or two? Your claim that every hoe's iPhone is a gift from some sucker is bullshit.
    Why? Because you're the one who said "girls who have the newest iPhones. " I'm just guessing that the "newest iPhones" aren't used and 1 to 2 years old. Maybe "newest" means something different to you.

    A typical, blah, blah, blah, can make 300 k in a night, minus 50 k for taxis. However, most of them can't make that every night. If they're lucky, twice a week. Most can't easily afford anything. Why? Because most of them have no sense when it comes to money. They get money and they spend it, usually on stuff they don't need.

    Then there's the hooker mentality (although you can find it in any job that pays cash daily). If you get a good payday, then you party until you're broke, or you stay at home until you're broke. Very few hookers treat it like a real job, showing up every day, giving max effort and saving money.

    Speaking of college girls, if she is legit college girl its a great plus for me personally. I would rather spend my time with someone more educated, someone with goals in life other than party and drugs, someone who doesn't fuck dudes for living but rather to supplement income or pay for school expenses. Some do speak English, which is also a plus. But I understand your point of view, if you are fine with a 15 minute quickie with a street girl, you could care less if she is in college or not. My target audience is different than yours.
    Why? I can understand the appeal of girls who speak English, if you can't speak Spanish. I can understand not wanting to be around girls who are heavy into drugs. I just don't understand "goals in life", unless you're looking for a relationship. You're paying them to fuck, whether for 15 minutes or 6 hours. If they just come over, talk about school, life goals and whatever else, no sex, no physical intimacy, are you still happy paying them?

    Also, the reality is, you have no idea if they're just paying school expenses or fucking guys for money. Unless you're with them 24/7, all you know is what she tells you. Every guy who has had a girlfriend or wife cheat on them (or who has cheated on a wife or girlfriend), knows this.

    Your "target audience?" Again, you're paying women for sex. An audience pays the performer, not the other way around.

  12. #63726
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnS123  [View Original Post]
    I am with you on the fact that no one has a right to fuck anyone based on what they think that person should accept. There is no benefit in being bitter over someone not accepting what you deem they should accept. The same girl who has taken 200,000 COP might get $300 USD. *That same girl might get flown out to the DR, France, or Croatia.

    However, we can also acknowledge idiocy.

    Case in point. Agent 0, Former Wizards NBA star who earned nearly $200 M (this does not include any endorsement money), and now has one of the biggest sports podcasts which will undoubtedly land him a huge media contract if he decides to partner, has more fucking money than anyone who has read this damn forum at any point. And he manages to refrain from gallivanting with and spending excessive amount of money on working girls, because, no matter how you cut it, it would be fucking dumb. Openly talks about it on his streams.

    "Women out here they want the Birkin Bags, they want to eat. Like 3 x a day. Fuck. *They want to go out places and they don't want to go to regular places, they want to go to all the expensive ass places. *Movies, first class tickets to shit, they want to go on vacation. There are a lot of things that come with, you know, when I can just pay $200-$250 and get right to the good stuff."

    He also lays out how he "shops" on Instagram, and his DMs are all hoes. And he laughs at some of their prices, because any sane person would laugh at $5,000, no matter how much money they have.

    So a 9 figure net worth individual doesn't have to wine and dine working girls. To do so is a choice, not a state of normalcy simply because one has FU money. That "level" of paying far more than you need to has nothing to do with having a staggering net worth. Or is it impossible for someone with a stratospheric net worth to do something stupid as fuck with their money?
    But what's the point?? The issue is that it exists. And if one has a 9 figure net worth he's more likely not taking that approach. Mongering in itself is a hobby or luxury. It's not a necessity. And just with all other luxuries there's levels to it. A hand bag can cost 100 $ or 100,000.

    You only live once so whatever your budget live to the fullest and stop worrying about what others have. It's amazing how some guys want to count girls money then get upset about it. If a girl is smart enough to hustle a good life for herself more power to her. As for me I spend what I want as long as I get what I'm paying for.

  13. #63725
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    A lot of guys here talking out of line about things they really don't know. Also too many bitter mongers here worrying about what girls have and think they deserve based on their own budget. You guys need to wake up.

    These top girls during a 7-10 year period of their lives will live like millionaires. There will always be a guy that buys them cars phones bags and pay for all their trips.

    If you meet one of these over the hill 28-30 year old plastic hookers ask them their life story. I'll give you an example.

    A famous mansion girl Alexandra.

    You guys seen her with cars traveling to almost every country in the world with brand name designer bags etc etc.

    How about Marcela Morales. She's in Europe with her sugar daddy and acts like she never hooked before when I know she's taken at least 100 dicks in her mouth.

    This is their life. And there's another level to mongering too. It's called I got FU money and I'll do as I please. I'll fly the girl to my place and buy her whatever the fuck she wants just so I can have her at my beck and call. These are the same girls some of you like to say ain't worth more than 200 mil. And maybe you're right. But realize you're not playing on that level. So stop making assumptions.

    Most hot girls will use her prime to do more than most middle income people will do in a lifetime and this is just facts..
    I am with you on the fact that no one has a right to fuck anyone based on what they think that person should accept. There is no benefit in being bitter over someone not accepting what you deem they should accept. The same girl who has taken 200,000 COP might get $300 USD. *That same girl might get flown out to the DR, France, or Croatia.

    However, we can also acknowledge idiocy.

    Case in point. Agent 0, Former Wizards NBA star who earned nearly $200 M (this does not include any endorsement money), and now has one of the biggest sports podcasts which will undoubtedly land him a huge media contract if he decides to partner, has more fucking money than anyone who has read this damn forum at any point. And he manages to refrain from gallivanting with and spending excessive amount of money on working girls, because, no matter how you cut it, it would be fucking dumb. Openly talks about it on his streams.

    "Women out here they want the Birkin Bags, they want to eat. Like 3 x a day. Fuck. *They want to go out places and they don't want to go to regular places, they want to go to all the expensive ass places. *Movies, first class tickets to shit, they want to go on vacation. There are a lot of things that come with, you know, when I can just pay $200-$250 and get right to the good stuff."

    He also lays out how he "shops" on Instagram, and his DMs are all hoes. And he laughs at some of their prices, because any sane person would laugh at $5,000, no matter how much money they have.

    So a 9 figure net worth individual doesn't have to wine and dine working girls. To do so is a choice, not a state of normalcy simply because one has FU money. That "level" of paying far more than you need to has nothing to do with having a staggering net worth. Or is it impossible for someone with a stratospheric net worth to do something stupid as fuck with their money?

  14. #63724
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    If a girl can get $300 for a couple of hours (and very very few can), she can easily afford to buy herself the newest iphone, clothes, etc. Even travel on her own dime. The girls who get those rates consistently, are doing well, and definitely don't live in a shack with no flooring.
    $300 is 200,000 Colombian Pesos. I know a few girls that might get that much one or twice a month but consistently? Probably can count the number of girls who can pull that in on a consistent basis on one hand. And most of them are touring Europe or the Middle East. They aren't sitting at home waiting for their "I-phone" to ring.

  15. #63723
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    The same guys flying them to Cartagena, Cancun, Europe, giving them $300 for a couple of hours, etc. I do not have any friends that are mongers that would do that, but evidently many guys do because it has been announced enough on this board.
    If a girl can get $300 for a couple of hours (and very very few can), she can easily afford to buy herself the newest iphone, clothes, etc. Even travel on her own dime. The girls who get those rates consistently, are doing well, and definitely don't live in a shack with no flooring.

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