Medellin Reports

[JjBee62]

First off I would like to say thanks to Nounce, he helped me to set up a business that allowed me to make US currency while being abroad and I never knew it would be a success, but it has been. So starting real soon, I will be in Medellin for the next 3 months. Then depending on how much money I earn while I am in Medellin, it will determine how long I will stay in Medellin. I can assure you and anyone one the board that money isn't a issue, and now time isn't an issue, so I have the two factors that I needed in order to spend more time in Medellin. With that being said, it does not mean that I will go buckwild and throw parties all over Medellin like I once did.

I hear about guys who know girls who are flown all over the world, but have I ever seen or met these girls? No! Do you know why? There are 2 reasons why, the Guys from the board who do know and see these girls are paying a megaton of money to date these chics and are embarrassed about what they are spending and don't want you and I to judge them, so don't worry, you will always hear about these outrageous stories, but you will more than likely never see them. The second reason that you never see these chics is because they don't exist, its all a made up story. Guys from this board and others create outlandish stories in hopes you'll chime in, but guess what, what another monger eats doesn't make me sh!t.

I have met some of those "flown all over the world" girls. It really happens. When a girl is posting pics from Paris, Amsterdam, Venice, etc, for 3 weeks straight, I'm pretty sure someone is picking up the tab. Whether it's Punta Cana, or Cancun, or Rome, there are really guys dropping that kind of money.

At any given time 3-5 girls on my Facebook are traveling. Mexico is common, as is the DR. Europe is also not rare. Haven't seen any make it to Asia or Australia yet.

You're correct about not wasting time on them. There are too many other girls who will treat you better.

If you're considering taking classes to extend your Visa, here's some information. If you prepay for 3 months of classes at an accredited school, you qualify for a 6 month student visa. Paying for 6 months will get you a 1 year visa. 5 years of student visas, without a break of more than 6 months qualifies you for a permanent resident visa.

If you're considering spending most of your time in Colombia you can work it like this:

1. Spend the first 3 months on your tourist stamp.

2. Before it runs out apply at a university. Classes run about $100, except the Spanish for foreigners classes which cost about $300. Pay for 3 months of classes to get a 6 month visa.

3. At the end of the 6 month visa, go home for a few days and return for another 3 month tourist visa.

4. Pay for more classes. Repeat as necessary.

Or pay for 6 months at a time and just stay on the student visa year round.

I'll look for you in El Centro around the end of April.

[TheCarlAnthony]

At 5:45 she told him she was leaving the house.

At 6:20 she told him she just got into a taxi.

At 6:50 she sent her location and she was actually still at home. This was 1 hour 5 minutes after she told him she left the house, she is still in the mf.

At 7:10 she was in the taxi for real this time and 10 minutes (really 30) from his place.

I figure if at 5:45 she had said I am running a bit behind and will arrive at x time instead of lying that she had left the house already, then all may had been okay. But when she told him she was in the taxi and was really still home even 30 minutes after that, well fuck her. I found somebody else already, even if that someone else was just Palmela and her 5 sisters.

At 5:45 she told him she was leaving the house.

At 6:20 she told him she just got into a taxi.

At 6:50 she sent her location and she was actually still at home. This was 1 hour 5 minutes after she told him she left the house, she is still in the mf.

At 7:10 she was in the taxi for real this time and 10 minutes (really 30) from his place.

I figure if at 5:45 she had said I am running a bit behind and will arrive at x time instead of lying that she had left the house already, then all may had been okay. But when she told him she was in the taxi and was really still home even 30 minutes after that, well fuck her. I found somebody else already, even if that someone else was just Palmela and her 5 sisters.

I see both points.

Very high chance she had another appointment in between the time she was planning on leaving vs the time she left. All it takes is for a regular customer to pop up for a 30 min session and in her head "I have time" now her timing goes to shit. I know this happens because I've done it myself. Chica says I have an appointment at blah blah time. How soon can you get here. Especially the ones that are seeing customers often back to back in those shared apartments they go in on. The fact that she sent you her location while at home is a red flag as a lot try to keep that private unless it's her shared sex cave.

Or she could have plans after him and wanted to get completely ready for the evening of work so she doesn't have to go back home.

Or she could just be a slow dresser and wanted to impress him by getting dolled up to the max to give him an amazing session.

Or. Or. Or. Or. Hahaha we will never know. I'm with you on this one though but can be wrong. Whatever the scenario I doubt she was this honest school girl with what really happened. He had a few lined up and I bet she did too.

I'm certain I never tell my boss the real reason I was late to work. LOL.

[Fassima]

The rate at the airport of 2600 is it for American dollar or Canadian? It seems really low for American dollar.

I want to make note I have not been to Lleras yet. My plane lands and the process through the airport is swift. Check the cambio at the airport the rate is basically 2600 pesos versus the dollar so it's a big hit if you entertain it. Took the white public service taxi to Laureles no problem. 80000. Driver was very happy with the money. Laureles is like living in New York. High rises and restaurants everywhere. Safe area to me. Nicely centered. I am in a secured building, guest friendly, fingerprint needed to leave apartment so your guest cannot just get up and leave without you. Okay I have fucked everyday. It's not hard to do in Medellin and I want to add I am very cheap. So far I have used tinder mostly, one casa, and Instagram. Laureles has many casas and prepagos. I literally walk 4 blocks to one to get exercise but taxis are everywhere. I have used yellow taxis mainly cause they are readily accessible also cheap, metered operated. And from my estimation probably just a dollar more. So far lots of short Colombian and Venezuelan girls on tinder. I mean under 5 ft. I am a tall girl lover so it's a problem for me. Centro was packed with people, restaurants, fruit vendors, and things to buy, but the street walkers were slim to none in quality. Did not make it to casas, strip clubs in that area. Heard variety of prices. 50 k, 30 k, 25 k. Taxi was $3. The highest amount I have paid so far for sex is $40. Most of my dates I gave cheap gifts and taxi money. English speakers few, English channels on tv few. Paying for the girls taxi is a big thing here. I have rarely done it mongering. But I have done it here. I have only had one bad but not so bad encounter. The girl tried to start the clock at arrival rather than start of intimacy and I asked her specifically when should the clock start. So I lost time my entertaining and socializing but the uncovered blow job was great. Check identification on arrival and show it to security with the girl for your own leverage, clarify if meeting is regular date or business. Most girls who are regular will suck dick without condoms, casas you pay extra. And that's my first week report.

[JjBee62]

I am willing to and have had relations with pros and non-pros who have been late, some very late and always make adjustments for that. If a girl tells me that she is in a taxi 20 minutes away and half an hour later she tells me that she is about to leave home that shows she has no respect for me. I'll accept that you think the girl still respects you. We have different levels of what is acceptable.

There you go using that word again. "Respect. ".

I don't think any of the girls in Medellin respect me. I don't go there to get respect. I'm not paying anyone for respect. If I want respect, I'll go sit down in my boss's office and say "we need to talk."

If a girl pulls that crap, dump her. No problem. But she has the same respect for you as the girl who always shows up on time. She's just not bright enough to understand how to make money.

You want to find out how much the girls respect you? Pick out a regular. Set up a date. Two hours before the date message her that you're sick with food poisoning. Does she offer to pick up something from a pharmacy and bring it to you? Does she offer to come help you until you feel better? Without also expecting to be paid? Or is her main concern over when you'll feel good enough to rent her services? Or tell her you were robbed and you won't be able to pay her for 2 days. Think she's still showing up on time?

Nobody is running around sucking dick because they respect the guy face fucking them.

[PunkedLife]

Finally got in touch with 5 chicas that were at the top of my list to see. Normal niceties in the beginning and say I'd like 2 hours, 2 pops, they ask how much I offer. I say 200 k mas taxi. All 5 say no way, that is very low money and they will not come. I ask how much they ask for, and they all say between 400 k-500 k mas taxi!!

I say no way, that's way too much and I've never been asked for that much, which is true. I say, lets find something that works for us both, because I would see them 3-4 times over the next 10 days, and they say, no thank you, have a good day. Granted they are stunners, total 10's, but really? Are they getting that much? 5 chicas just turned down 1. 2 m pesos over the next week from me (300 k x 4 times). Hard to believe.

I had Karina come back over because she's easy to communicate and schedule with and we have a great time together. She only has her passport and renuncia, which I guess is something you get when your cedula is stolen. She has been here twice now no problems. The security guard tonight won't let her in, we argue for almost an hour, call the supervisor and they say the renuncia is too old (from February. What? She should get a new one and it will be okay. We're both pissed the fuck off. No answer as to why it was okay two days ago, this particular security guard is just being difficult for no reason.

Karina is super sweet about it, I pay her ubers plus extra because I feel terrible for wasting her time, but she's all good about it and says she will go to the police station and get a new renuncia tomorrow.

Now I have a new chica on the way, will be be here in an hour. Happy about that but still feel terrible for wasting Karina's time, I will make it up to her though. Will report on new chica later tonight.

Mind sharing the links to these 5 who were asking for this much money? Maybe they don't ask this from every guy that hits them up. I've spoken to over 50 Facebook girls and the most I've been asked for is 300 k. I've had a girl from la isla quote me 400 k for a date outside the club. It's sad done guys are out here paying these prices. And some are paying this for average looking women in my eyes. I can understand stunners although I don't agree with it but average looking women is just mind boggling. But I guess some guys just got it like that or just aren't used to getting girls back from where they come from. Anyways I left Medellin yesterday but would definitely hit them up to see what they talking about.

[Nounce]

I did a quick search and did not find a member with the user name "Ani" , is this the whole user name?

It's anii9009.

[Mojo Bandit]

Anyone happen to know who she is?

She just favorited me on SA but I'm not down to pay $90 again just to be told 500 k+.

Not sure if you can see her photos without an account (don't have to pay for that) but I attached a photo.

https://www.seeking.com/member/4a454...?&locale=en_US

If anyone here knows her or her FB, please PM me and I'll return the favor. Thanks!

I have a non payed account on SA and yes you can see photos, of course you can't see the private photos unless they give you permission but you can still see them without a paid account if they do give you permission.

I did a quick search and did not find a member with the user name "Ani" , is this the whole user name?

[ChuchoLoco]

You are right. But it IS my mission to make sure MY business dealings go smoothly. That includes not accepting mfs that will be late for no apparent reason and wasting my damn time. Any excuse that a chick has, she should be able to tell you well ahead of time, hey this is going on so I will be a little late. It is not the fact that she is rumning late, but it is the "fuck you you do not deserve truthful updates when you are waiting on me" that is the problem.

When it is time to go to a normal job the whole staff is not 2 hours late on some culture shit. When it is time to catch a flight they are not 2 hours late on some culture shit. When the delivery man comes with a new refrigerator they are not 2 hours late on some culture shit. When it is time to pick the kid up from school or the sitters they are not 2 hours late on some culture shit. They are only 2 hours late on some culture shit when our rusty asses are waiting for them. That is plain to see.

I agree, a phone call to let you know they are running late would help. I have experienced that as well as being on time from many but those are girls who have learned that gringos expect punctuality and it's good for their business. As far as being normal employees, that's not the case. They are all freelancers. Unless they work for you 8 to 10 hours away, 6 days a week. They are not anybodies employee and do you really expect a freelancer to behave like a real employee?

My experience is different. 1 hour late for even their own birthday party is common. My education is different than yours too so we may see things a little different. I have a BA in International Studies with a minor in Latin American Studies. I'm not so business minded. Maybe I should have been, I could be living a much more lux life in retirement and before but am doing OK as things turned out.

As a kid my family was always late for parties etc and I hated it and it was always an hour late. I still do hate to wait, so I don't. No reason to get upset just move on to the next. Now if a freelancer is on time and performs well, I may call her back for more. But for me the best rule is only once or twice. More than that the games and novia shirt start.

I also had a very interesting class in Commercial Latin America and things are much different. If I remember correctly, 60% of the economy is underground / black market and unregulated. Their history and culture are much different than ours.

Keep it simple and enjoy it in anyway you can but getting pissed is a waste of time.

[TheCarlAnthony]

The answer is YES. They are getting it from elsewhere. They will come down in price when they are desperate.

But there are different levels of girls. I'm not talking about Vennies or El Centro girls.

My advice is once a girl turns you down keep it moving to the next one. This is the land of hot girls. Youll eventually find what you're looking for.

Pure facts bruva!

Here's some Chica insight from the horses mouth:

In my time I have befriended a lot of working girls. I always build a personal relationship with them outside of the pop sessions. To me it increases the sexual connection. But that's because I see them as valuable resources to other things. I find out where they party when not working / semi working and how they operate. It tells me where to find similar women. A lot of these These girls are normal girls stuck in a crazy life of survival. Their looks and sex are their bait to bring in Income. A huge portion of girls in this industry have little to know formal education but they have one very important thing a lot of us lack and that's street smarts. I've had my share of fails in Colombia and I openly share them on this board. No cares of other vets opinions on how I over paid, got stolen from or whatever. But I can promise you. I win 1 million times more than I lose. At least in my opinion, and that's the only one I care about. I recommend you take the same approach. I now smash a lot of the girls guys pay 600 k in Gustos for free or at minimum prices. Maybe not the first night hahaha but down the road I get the right price in my book.

I probe alot of my hottest chicas that work and after the gringo guard goes down for her, they become open books. I build relationships rather than Hi and bye and this is paying off. Here's what I learned for those that might not have experience with them. Their price is based on How you met them, where you met them, their current financial situation at the time you meet them, and how they see you!

Time:

Obviously a chica that received a message from us at 10 am is just starting her day. She is trying to have a successful day and start off on the right foot. So she might go high earlier just to have money to shop with later that afternoon or to buy groceries etc etc. So the 10 am response will be similar to her last night response depending on how last night went. If she spent the night out working or just returned from an expensive all nighter and made great money and isn't desperate at the moment, she might go high on the price. If she had a horrible night and spent hours walking the clubs and streets with no customers. That price will go down. But only to an extent. Every girl has a bottom line price. That number fluctuates depending on how she is feeling at the time your message comes in and the convenience factor. If you are staying in Parque llares And so is she somewhere in Poblado, she might shave 50 k off her number or more. Just to make a quick buck. She will take note of where she met you though and will price similar to that price point of the location you two first engaged. The catch are there are lots of girls that work all the different places ie clubs, casa, massage parlors, photoprepaggos, fb, Gustos, strip clubs etc etc. Those girl prices can be unpredictable. Again the time is everything. If you meet her in a cheap place set that bar. So if you see her else where you have bargaing chips. Don't just let her set the price either. Tell her your price point and let her agree or disagree. If she raised it 100 k. How much is that $30 to you. If she raised it 300 k. How much is that extra $100 dollars to you. I'd personally pass. Or just get her number and friendzone her until she gets desperate later in life. It will happen. She will pretend she has an emergency and knock the head off of the price.

Where:

Same chica. Meets you in Gustos. Again She has a going rate of the club to take in consideration. If she goes to the club say Gustos again. She is aware of her demand in there vs the other girls. If her half decent friend is charging 400 k you better believe she will go higher. If she feels like the hottest chick there and confidence is bubbling and men are tapping her every few seconds she will stay firm at the most expensive price possible until those taps slow down. If she gets enough rejections she will adjust. But don't let Gustos fool you. If she leaves alone because noone bit at her price, I can almost guarantee she will contact one of her customers in her phone that will pay her within her realistic price range. That's when my phone starts dinging hahahaha. That same girl will have a Milleroticos post or PP post with her face blurred out and ask almost half of what she ask in a club environment. She might even work a massage parlor or a casa for even less. So where you meet her has a huge impact. Take a girl street walking in Centro and you might be astonished by her price. But know they know that in their current location, what the other girls charge and she will price accordingly based on where she fits in comparison to her competition there! Street smarts. They have it!

You.

This is where our street smarts have to come in. Just as she has a price, so should we. You know what your budget is per girl. Quoting little Wayne. "it's like as soon as I cum. I come to my senses". Think about that when agreeing to the price. You see her. Like her. The price is what you would expect to pay, I normally agree right away. No haggling. That always dampers the mood, as the lower she drops the price the less interest she has in my opinion. And the more likely she is to flake if it's on a text. Or the less you will get that text that I get after she realizes she needs to seal a deal immediately. If she throws you an obviously fair price and you try to low ball her how do you expect her to go above and beyond for you. 10 minutes in she will be asking you to "leche". Jajaja I recommend knowing the price point of your location and fish in lakes based on your available bait (money). You see a stunner in Gustos but only have 150 k pesos. Bro. Forget about it. Go where your money has its value. Find her twin in a casa or on a site like photoprepaggos. Hell I hear you can even find dimes street walking which I will confirm for myself next week. !If you are in the mood to visit a club knowing the price will be much higher than the chick you banged in Centro for 35 or 80 k expect a night of turn downs until you find a unicorn. If you are wanting to party and drink in the environment of expense expect a higher price point. They do the same. And go where their vaginas have the most value as we should with our spendable dollars.

If they want the ballers they go where the ballers gather. If they want a quick buck, they go to the other places where men pay less. Mps and casas. Get there numbers in the cheap places and tell her "I'd rather pay you the full price they charge here in this place later" because she makes half of what the casa charges you. Half! If you paid 80 k, she made 40 k. You would have never thought that dime in Gustos realistic price point was that low. Well it is depending on time, location, and need. They just don't always need it at that particular moment. Hell some of them never do need it as they have customers lined up back to back. Some struggle to find a customer a week! Depending on where you meet her will give you some insight on what to expect. That's why a lot of peeps avoid the Clubs. I work all of the locations when in hunt mode just like they do.

[SpiderRider]

You all seem to be paying way too much for companionship here. I'm almost speechless. Get a grip, you're being steam-rolled, just like you have back in your home country. You're clearly unaware of how much these girls are lacking for funds. The competition for female companionship pesos is absolutely fierce.
The problem is that your visits are too short. You get 183 days each calendar year on passport stamps. Use them and get in the flow of life and socialization here. You'll be stunned how far your propinas wlll fall.
Every time you repeat with a particular girl the price should come DOWN until a floor is reached. Create networks. Before you know it beautiful girls will be calling YOU with low ball offers. Or, some just want to come hang out with you for almost nothing, just to escape their reality for a couple of hours.
.. but I have a job, a mortgage, a wife back home... sucks to be you doesn't it ? just kidding, we're all learning how our past creates our present.. and we've been led astray by conventional lifestyle "wisdom"

[Drunkmunky]

I got into Medellin a couple of days ago.

First night I had a Venezuelan girl at my hotel. I wish the hotels weren't so strict for letting girls in. She was tall, 175. Her name is Barbie on SA. She's only in Columbia for a month based on the visa.

Second night I saw Hanna at Escort Fantasia. Amazing experience. First time I came standing, holder her up with my arms as she rode me till I came.

Third night I'm going to go for an SA girl again tonight. We'll see how it goes.

Umm as for the mansion.

I went to house 1 yesterday 'LE bar' for 50 k. Crickets man. Crickets.

[AdventureSeekr]

Anyone happen to know who she is?

She just favorited me on SA but I'm not down to pay $90 again just to be told 500 k+.

Not sure if you can see her photos without an account (don't have to pay for that) but I attached a photo.

https://www.seeking.com/member/4a454...?&locale=en_US

If anyone here knows her or her FB, please PM me and I'll return the favor. Thanks!

[PolloNegro]

I was recently in Medellin in January for a very short stay, and one of my Vennie's that I frequently see tried to pull a fast one over on me. She knew I was coming and she knew what I wanted as we had communicated frequently. Once I arrived in Medellin the BS immediately began. She demanded a super large amount of money from me for a date. I thought it was a joke, but she did not budge. I was not going to pay the amount but she did not know this, so I chose to have dates with other girls who were readily available.

In the process of being in Medellin Saturday to Monday, I ended up banging 16 chics in that time frame and paid less with the 16 chics than I would have paid with seeing her 2 times. The entire experience was weird, strange, and baffled me. I decided to accept that someone had blew her head up or made her think that she could command the type of money she was asking me for, but I was never willing to pay what she was asking.

After I left Medellin and returned to America, she began to contact me nearly every day, but the problem was she had already screwed up in my book. I had helped this girl get dates with other BMs and still she was trying to stiff me while I was in Medellin for the weekend. Here is where everything gets real and the stupidity and boldness emerges, she lost more than $1,200,000 in dates that she would have had with me and she lost many other clients who communicate with me through this board and other social media formats. Another Venny that I established a relationship with explained in great detail about how this Venny only had American Clients and did very little to earn good money.

I immediately blocked my old Venny and communicated through the new Venny contact and the new Venny explained that they all lived in the same community, but the old venny had a better home with many rooms and Wifi, the old venny ended up losing her apartment, and trust me she contacted me several times through random numbers, I politely reminded her that, in America, we treat people the way they treat us, so don't ask for favors and do not ask me for recommendations from my American Friends. Come to find out that the new Venny moved into the old Vennie's apartment and the old vennie is now staying in the new vennie's old apartment, which is just a studio no refrigerator, no microwave, no AC, just a damn box if you ask me. But you have to be extremely Bold to risk losing your guaranteed money, now your home, and now you're back to begging me for help, I will never help her or recommend any of my friends to her. Now you clearly see why many Vennies are in a situation of disparity within Colombia, the choices that you make will define or destroy you! Pollo Negro is out!

[MilkDog08]

I'm not here too toot my own horn to give away my Facebook contacts. Just wanted to speak to a few of the new open-minded users. I like this new school of mongers!! I'm not that guy that argues on here or wants to knock anyone's methods or prices their willing to pay. Facebook has been a huge tool. When I started Mongering Medellin I was blown away by the amount of talent there. My first approach was just boots on the ground gold searching. I never tried SA because I don't want the expensive subscription. I tried Tinder and that works great for when you are there unless you buy the subscription. But Facebook has been the biggest gem ever for me. I have received so many free and paid appointments from there that it's crazy.

I've learned so much by interacting with the girls on there that it is literally my immediate go to when chica hunting. During those odd hours during the day hungover in your hotel. When trying to see where the locals party too. Or just trying to Red Shirt a dime you might not find walking the streets or in a bar. Of course PP and Miller are great. But FB has changed the game for me, if set up correctly. It's so simple and a great foot in the door. I literally have almost 1000 women in MDE on my friends list. I can't keep up with the inbox conversations. Barring fake accounts and a bunch of questionable semi pros. It is an amazing mechanism.

I've posted tips on how to setup the Facebook game but it takes patience to grow. But we'll worth it.

I'm heading back for my third trip in two weeks. Staying a week this time. I have about 400 friends on my fake Facebook. I had such a great time in Facebook and I only pay max 200 k. And get everything. I haven't been disappointed yet. All my girls have good attitudes and enjoy my time. I have added my self to toe chica lists where I get updated on girls available. I don't have to ask for photos I point and go. Lau Gomez will send you girls. I have 2 sisters that I enjoy and will take them to San Andres for a night on my next trip. Two 100 dollar plane trips I don't want to repeat but they are the hottest girls in my fb so I will continue to use them. I have a regular 19 why / o novia that is beautiful setting me up for the long game and a model girl but she about to. E dropped for begging to much. I try not to talk to the super hot ones until a week before I get there. I'm going to go to San Andres probably twice on this trip. Once with regular and once with prepay girl. FB is awesome.

[Turgid]

It appears you are confused about the meaning of respect. 99% of these girls have no respect for you, me or any other monger. They're showing up to do a job, usually for a complete stranger. You can treat them like shit, or you can treat them like a queen and you'll end up with the same amount of respect. The bottom line is did you pay? If so, then they'll decide whether it's worth seeing you again. Nothing to do with respect, just her evaluation of the work environment.

You honestly think the Colombian girls are showing up on time for the Colombian men? LOL! The Colombian men know that 9:30 means 11:00. Paisas being late has zero to do with gringos. It's the national pasttime. It doesn't matter what type of appointment you're trying to make. They're not going to be on time. Talk to some of the gringos running businesses in Colombia. The clock means almost nothing to them.

I always get some "tail" when I want. No hoping required. I also rarely have any problems with girls being late, even though girls are always late. It's simple. I understand how things work. I don't try to change an entire country to meet my needs. I don't set myself to get pissed off and fail to succeed at the sole reason why I traveled to the country.

I'll repeat it again. Work into their schedule, instead of working them into your schedule. Adjust your expectations to fit their reality. Surely you've been around women at some point in your life. What does it mean when a woman (any nationality) tells you "I'll be ready in 5 minutes?" It means, sit down and get comfortable, you've got at least 20 minutes to kill. If you tell her to meet you at a restaurant at 9 pm, she's not walking in until 9:15. Colombians are no different. Set something up for 4 pm, when a taxi is going to take 30-45 minutes to get to you and she's still not walking out the door until 4:15. Very few of them will ever think about the travel time or traffic.

If you know she's not leaving until 4:15 for your 4 pm appointment, then why hold the unreasonable expectation that she'll be at your door at 4:20 or 4:30? Set your appointment at 3 and she'll be there between 4 and 4:30. Set it for 4 and she'll arrive between 5 and 5:30. Tell her one time and expect the other. Consider it a different time zone, if that helps.

Is your method working? How often do you have an issue with a girl being seriously late, or telling her not to bother coming? How often do you have to resort to a backup plan? What's the average wait time for plan "be" to arrive?

My method works for me over 90% of the time. I don't have to scramble to find a replacement. I don't have to wait for the replacement. I don't have to deal with finding a replacement for the replacement, because she's not going to be on time either.

I am willing to and have had relations with pros and non-pros who have been late, some very late and always make adjustments for that. If a girl tells me that she is in a taxi 20 minutes away and half an hour later she tells me that she is about to leave home that shows she has no respect for me. I'll accept that you think the girl still respects you. We have different levels of what is acceptable.