Medellin Reports

[JjBee62]

Ok guys lets get off the bank business. And on to the women. We all know how to make and save money. OUR MISSION is the beauties, we arent getting in the USA Not the teller machines.

Fine.

There's this girl I met 2 years ago. Actually met her at the impromptu going away party some Colombian friends threw me on the last night of my year in Medellin. She just recently turned 21 and is cute as can be. We've kept in touch and I planned on hooking up with her last summer. Just never managed to get around to it.

Part of the problem, even though the Colombian friends who invited me over have played the P4P game, I don't think this girl has. We just talked and danced a bit. So, I wasn't sure whether taking her straight to bed was the right approach. I also didn't want any issue with the friend, who wanted a big chunk of my time.

Recently she hit me up and I could tell right away she was going to ask for money. She lost her job as a hairdresser, times are tough, yada, yada, yada. So I switched her onto a different track. She wants to open her own salon. I want to find a woman who will cut my hair wearing next to nothing. Somewhere between a lap dance and a haircut.

For the right girl, if I could find that in the US, I'd pay well for it. I've got a lot of hair. I've always, once I graduated from the local barber, enjoyed having my hair cut. I like a good lap dance. If the whole thing can be followed by a shower together and sex, take my money.

I brought it up to her and she got all excited. Offered her services on my next visit. Got her talking about the whole idea and she completely forgot to ask me if I'd send some money. Now she's thinking about opening a salon for men.

Am I the only one interested in something like this? If not, how much would you pay? The girl is hot (if you like petite flacas), clean, low mileage (doesn't appear to know any other gringos) and sweet. I know how much to pay her for sex. I am certain I can get her to do the whole thing for 150 k, over about 3 hours. I'm just curious what people think about a good price for the haircut, lapdance maybe partial strip tease.

[El Bacano]

Ok guys lets get off the bank business. And on to the women. We all know how to make and save money. OUR MISSION is the beauties, we arent getting in the USA Not the teller machines.

[LoverBoy1024]

I wouldn't give up on the SW's in Medellin just yet. The reason you think your having worse luck in Medellin with the SW's than in Tijuana is because most of the services in Tijuana are kind of set on a menu with typically includes a base price which includes two positions and their pants or skirt off, and then you have the add ONS, etc. So basically your getting a menu, where as here, it doesn't work that way, and anything goes.

You don't really need any negotiating skills, yet you do need some basic Spanish speaking skills. You can ask the SW's what they want, and after you hear the number, you just tell them what you are willing to pay and what you expect for their services and that they can "take it or leave it". It's that simple, and this is exactly how the Colombians go about it.

And always tell them that you pay afterwards, and make that clear before you go upstairs with them versus after your in the room. I personally don't like the Vennies that much, they seem to have an attitude like they are better than the Colombians and smarter which is a perfect example of what happened to you, however there are some nice ones around.

I have been putting this advice to practice today. I started out creating a translation on Google Translate of my "want list". And then I took a screenshot of it so I can show it to the girl without a data connection. Something like this:

Sexo por una hora.

** # sin ropa.

** # chupar con condón.

** # follar con condon.

** # te llamo el coño.

** # Toco tu cuerpo, tus senos y tu coño.

Doy una propina por un buen servicio. No hay propina para el servicio regular.

# todo el dinero se paga después del final de la hora #.

The first girl was OK with everything but I had written that I would pay $40 for the hour and she didn't like that. I think it is working better to leave the dollar figure off and just hold up fingers if I need to negotiate price. It was difficult to find anyone (yet) who would agree to "sin condon services". I am going to follow up with making two sets of images. One for 30 minutes and one for an hour. Each set removes a condition like sin condom services so I can show three possibilities I would agree to.

The first girl was 50 k for the hour, everything covered. She actually offered less and I had written on my list 50. So a little mistake there and she objected to sin condom services. Fine. No problems doing anything with her that was on the list otherwise, it was just that she was a total starfish. She didn't even ask for the tip and none given. 24 k for the hotel.

Second girl quoted me 3 k (and I already took my pricing off the list so that was good) but when we got in the room she up-sold me on touching her breasts for the hour. I didn't blame because 3 is too little for an hour and offered her 50. She was good and I counted the 20 as her tip. 50 for her and 20 room.

Third girl objected to the hour so I agreed to her request of 50 for 30 minutes. I probably should have tried to negotiate down the price for 30 minutes, but didn't. She was OK, not great, but I gave her a 10 k tip anyway because I liked her. 60 k girl and 10 k room.

This is very much the culture here. Create the contract ahead of time and there are no problems. Leave anything off the contract and it's extra money. One of the girls asked to see the "contract" again in the room so she could get things right.

Thanks again Surfer!

[JjBee62]

Any tips, advise. I will be in a great location in laureles near la70. Can I find out best way to exchange money. Best taxi app to use at the airport around the town. I exchanged $200 through us bank and lost $30 doing so 580000 pesos. My thought is there must be a better way. Can I get names or address of all the casas in laureles. Also it seems like more foreigners like the hunt in el centro than parque lleras. Can I get feedback.

Tip #1: Read the forum, or RTFF as they say. There's a search function. It's very useful. There is more information just waiting for you than you can imagine. There are answers to at least 30 questions which you don't know you need to ask.

Tip #2: Follow up your trips with trip reports. If you went to Pattaya, you should have written a report in the Pattaya thread. Even if you spent 28 days sitting in your hotel room, you should have written something. Writing a report helps everyone. Anyone who gave you advice is curious how your trip turned out. Any other first timers want to know what a first timer experienced. It's one thing to read a report from a guy who is now fucking the granddaughters of the first women he fucked in a city. It's a completely different perspective from a new visitor.

Tip #3: Read the forum. Yes. It's that important. There are plenty of guys here with hundreds of trip reports in dozens of countries. They read the forum and most learn something new every week. Can you imagine how much you'll learn?

Advice: Check the rates before exchanging money. A few banks will offer a great exchange rate, most won't. Depending on your bank, using ATMs gets the best rate. Cost is generally between 1% and 6%. If you insist on exchanging dollars, search Google maps for casa de cambio. Some have websites. Check the rates first. They will be posted at the casa de cambio.

Advice: Read the forum. The airport is 30-45 minutes away from Medellin, depending on if you use the new tunnel. There are several ways to get to Laureles from the airport:

1. Airport bus. Get on the one going to Nutibara. It drops you 3 minutes walk away from Parque Berrio Metro station. Take the metro south one stop to San Antonio, switch trains, get off at the 3rd stop, Estadio. Walk south. Cost, under $4.

2. Airport taxi. These are white taxis. Current price is posted on a big sign just outside the airport doors. I think current rate is 80 k. Find the sign. Know the rate. Ask the driver how much. If he says more, tell him the rate.

3. Colectivo, or shared taxi. Also white taxis, but they wait for 4 passengers. Each pays one quarter of the posted rate.

4. Freelance taxi. The drivers will try to grab you inside the airport. They charge whatever they think they can get. Best to avoid them.

5. Rideshare. Didi and Beat apps have been recommended by others.

6. Facebook Uber. There are several working girls with cars who will do airport pickup. The price is comparable to the taxis with the bonus of having 30 minutes of foreplay and your first session in Medellin 5 minutes after checking in to your room. These women tend to be late 20's to early 30's. Read the forum for more information.

Advice: The majority of casas are in El Centro. There are some in Laureles, but they are more expensive. It's quick, easy and cheap to get to El Centro by the Metro.

Feedback: You should have started with reading the forum. The most powerful weapon in the world is knowledge (actually it's an angry honey badger with the coronavirus, but who knows where to find one). This forum is the monger's equivalent to the Library of Congress. Arm yourself.

There are many different options for sex in Medellin. Every guy has their favorite. Without knowing anything about you (like what we could learn from a trip report) nobody knows what way will work best for you.

There are streetwalkers, casas, massage spas (casas with uncomfortable beds), shared apartments (casas without a business license), strip clubs (casas with music and a stripper pole), prepago agencies, Tinder, Colombian Cupid, Seeking Arrangements, Mileroticos, Photoprepagos and Facebook. Read the forum and figure out which one you prefer.

[Shockman]

Just got back from a 3 week stint and had a great time. I stayed in Poblado at the Medellin Plaza hotel.

I will start with the the SW of Centro and the casas. Never saw anything that I absolutely had to have among the street walkers, so I passed. Another day, I figured I'd give the centro casas a try. Again, while the price is attractive, I found the few casa I visited (New Life, sexy Amigas and a couple more) did not have the facilities and performance levels that I was looking for. Even a promise of generous tips did not improve the experience.

I had put a lot of faith on my FaceBook game and that too was a bit of a disappointment. The 6 FB connections I had were a bit of a let down. They were as hardened as the regular bar girls and lacking any motivation to perform.

What really made the difference for me was the superbowl party I attended early on my trip. It seems to have brought out the semi-pro girls whose contacts I collected and later used extensively.

I also used Mileriticos quite extensively and lucked out with some really good providers. One stunner claimed that she was in Medical school which I took with a load of salt until she started throwing medical terminology around.

Also, took a trip to Gutape to climb the rock.

[JjBee62]

If the USA Border Folks ask you about the "women in Colombia" simply tell them you are gay then ask politely if you may proceed.

Right idea, but a better response is "if you think the women are hot, you should see the men."

[JjBee62]

Let me state I respect border agents who are doing an important job trying to keep dangerous people out of our country. And as Frank Burns said, its nice to be nice to the nice. But they are not Walmart greeters, they are looking for someone to bust. The more people they catch, the better for their career. Get an asshole or even worse an asshole having a bad day, they can greatly inconvenience you or worse. Be polite, be direct and move on.

People will rise to meet your expectations. If you expect them to be nice, they're usually nice. If you expect an asshole, you get an asshole.

I did some figuring a few days ago. Over the past 7 years I've crossed into and out of Canada, in a commercial truck nearly 500 times. That's almost 500 interactions with Canada CBP and almost 500 with US CBP. I've probably been sent to secondary inspection about 40 times. 4 times were in Canada, 3 for paperwork not being registered and 1 for a load inspection.

Most of the trips to secondary on the US side were for X-ray. Between midnight and 2 am they do certification and training for the X-ray equipment. If you cross the border at that time, in a truck, you've got about a 75% chance of getting sent to x-ray. Once I realized that, I changed my schedule and almost never got sent to secondary.

My negative experiences with CBP - 6. The first 2 were on my first trip. Got a bit of flack from both sides. Problem was, I was nervous. I didn't know the routine. I didn't know to shut my truck off at the booth. One time I'd been switched to a rental truck at the last minute and the license plate didn't match the paperwork. That time probably would have been OK, except the woman was training another agent.

Of the other 3, 2 were with the same asshole and 1 was with a guy having a bad day.

My airport entries are few. Nothing like you guys whose passports have more stamps than the post office. My first time, I screwed up using the kiosk, and the photo was only the bottom half of my face. Straight to secondary. Had to wait 20 minutes, then they emptied my luggage, 2 suitcases plus a guitar in a flight case. I've learned to travel lighter. When the officer started with the questions he was rather harsh. By the time he finished, he and 2 other agents were hanging out and laughing with me.

So out of about 1,000 face-to-face dealings with CBP, including about 40 additional interactions in secondary inspection, I've had 7 negative experiences and 4 were my fault. And the worst that happened was a few people were briefly rude to me.

I probably shouldn't count the Canadian CBP interactions, because Canadians are always nice and polite. If they caught you smuggling in 500 guns, they'd ask you if you like to hunt while handcuffing you.

Most of the CBP I encounter are just bored. They look at the same stuff, ask the same questions, hundreds of times a day. You think they're looking for someone to bust? Not in my experience. They're looking to get out of there and go home.

At the airport they're dealing with grumpy, cramped travelers. At the border they're dealing with tired, grumpy (and often stinky) truck drivers. All the time looking for someone who won't make eye contact or who seems nervous. Why be that guy? When I walk up, or drive up, I've got a bounce in my step and a smile on my face. I don't start spouting out all the details of my trip, but I do give them a bit of humanity.

On slow nights I've sat at the booth talking with an officer for 5 minutes, about sports, the product I haul, bad drivers or the crazy stuff they see. The next time I see that officer, they're all smiles.

I don't recommend blurting out the number of hookers you saw, or talking about how cheap cocaine is in Colombia. But I do recommend treating it just like all the other interactions you have every week. Unless you're one of the guys who is rude to everyone.

Waitress: "How are you today?" "I'm great. How are you?

Cashier: "How are you today?" "I'm great. How are you?

CBP: "How are you today?" "I'm great. How are you?

I expect every CBP officer to be a nice person doing a job they frequently complain about. I treat every CBP officer like they're a nice person doing a job they probably complain about. In response, almost every one turns out to be a nice person who is just doing their job.

I can't imagine how difficult my life would be if I treated each one like some asshole who's looking for the chance to ruin my day because he's having a bad day.

[Mr Enternational]

For the 1001 time. Use the ATM in MDE. They have them right at the airport and then after that they are all over MDE.

No other method to obtain pesos comes close.

If they make it that complicated to get money, you can imagine how complicated it will be to get a woman.

[Mojo Bandit]

Any tips, advise. I will be in a great location in laureles near la70. Can I find out best way to exchange money. Best taxi app to use at the airport around the town. I exchanged $200 through us bank and lost $30 doing so 580000 pesos. My thought is there must be a better way. Can I get names or address of all the casas in laureles. Also it seems like more foreigners like the hunt in el centro than parque lleras. Can I get feedback.

Normally just using your ATM card is the best way to get cash. Sounds like they charged you 15% yo get currency up front. I have seen steep prices like this before. Your bank gets the best exchange rate when you use the ATM in a foreign country, you still pay international exchange fee of a anywhere from $1 -$3 depending on the percentage your bank is charging you and the amount. Colpatria Scotia ATMs (there are also Colpatria and Scotia but it must say Colpatria -Scotia) have been reported as not having ATM fees but these can be harder to find.

To learn more about casas around Medellin you need to study this thread that I am supplying the link to. There is a map and a list. The list is a downloadable PDF file and the map is a custom made Google Map with the link in post #52 in the Medellin Map and List thread. I noticed that the closest Casas to Laureles seem to be along Avenida 33. Thank World Travel 69 for putting in the research and time on these.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...n-Map-and-List

The information on the map is always changing so I would suggest looking at specific places and then researching by plugging the name into the search feature of the Medellin Reports thread, you find this toward the top of the page to the right of in the middle gray bar running across the top the thread. Click where is says "Search Thread" then a search box opens.

[VsebudetNY]

Border folk will respond "How are the men?".

ROFL! Turgid, thank you! You made my day.

[John Gault]

For the 1001 time. Use the ATM in MDE. They have them right at the airport and then after that they are all over MDE.

No other method to obtain pesos comes close.

[John Gault]

Hello,

I have been doing more research on Medellin, and a few girls on the Photoprepagos site caught my attention. A lot of these girls seem to have their own apartments around the city, and are willing to do incall. This feels more convenient for me, since a) I don't have to rent a love motel, and b) I can go to the girl at my own time without having to sit around waiting.

A few posts from a while back mentioned that these incalls are safe, but is it advised to just rent a love motel? Is there a risk of running into anything at the incall location? LOL this is going to be my first time visiting, so just wanted to see what the more experienced mongers think about this.

They are not 100 % safe. There have been times when the girl drugs the victim or a male shows up after you are in place and then he robs you.

For a new man to MDE your best bet to be on the safe side is to go to a casa. I have never heard of any real problems with safety in a casa.

If you are thinking about not have to wait on a Chica then a casa is also a no waiting game.

[LoverBoy1024]

I wouldn't give up on the SW's in Medellin just yet. The reason you think your having worse luck in Medellin with the SW's than in Tijuana is because most of the services in Tijuana are kind of set on a menu with typically includes a base price which includes two positions and their pants or skirt off, and then you have the add ONS, etc. So basically your getting a menu, where as here, it doesn't work that way, and anything goes.

You don't really need any negotiating skills, yet you do need some basic Spanish speaking skills. You can ask the SW's what they want, and after you hear the number, you just tell them what you are willing to pay and what you expect for their services and that they can "take it or leave it". It's that simple, and this is exactly how the Colombians go about it.

And always tell them that you pay afterwards, and make that clear before you go upstairs with them versus after your in the room. I personally don't like the Vennies that much, they seem to have an attitude like they are better than the Colombians and smarter which is a perfect example of what happened to you, however there are some nice ones around.

That's great advice. Thank you so much.

I wrote a much longer continuation of my previous post regarding "scam alert", but I'm not sure it got posted or not so I will just conclude it shortly here.

I paid in advance for a TLN and promised services. However right after renting a room for the night I got a threesome pushed on me from a cousin that needed our help. So while I already paid for GFE for the night, we couldn't do that unless I paid for her cousin (in advance) too. So I told both of them to just go away.

So this is perfect advice from Surfer. Pay after only.

[Zhagolo52]

You can also WU your self the $. I forget what the sweet spot for fees vs $ is.

Any tips, advise. I will be in a great location in laureles near la70. Can I find out best way to exchange money. Best taxi app to use at the airport around the town. I exchanged $200 through us bank and lost $30 doing so 580000 pesos. My thought is there must be a better way. Can I get names or address of all the casas in laureles. Also it seems like more foreigners like the hunt in el centro than parque lleras. Can I get feedback.

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[Turgid]

If the USA Border Folks ask you about the "women in Colombia" simply tell them you are gay then ask politely if you may proceed.

Border folk will respond "How are the men?".