Medellin Reports

[Junior11]

Got it, thanks. I've been there. Some hot chicks that sit outside of bars usually by themselves don't make eye contact and kind of look away. I guess they are just bait for folks to walk in, right?

I was kind of waiting for a Centro regular to answer this because I am curious myself. I am fairly certain that It is Calle 52 and Carrera 52, the southwest corner of Botero Plaza, one block north of Veracruz church (Iglesia De La Veracruz on a map). Ground Zero is not a place you will find listed on a map. It is just the spot that I assume Centro regulars consider the center of the action in Centro. If I am wrong I hope a Centro regular jumps in an corrects me.

Ground zero is obviously on Carrera 53, between Calle 51 and 52.

Ground zero Carrera 53 is a very short street. If you want to chose a corner, it will be one of the street corners listed above (Carrera 53/Calle 51 or Carrera 53/Calle 52).

[Surfer500]

Oops, shit. Thanks for this info. I did have a feeling the ID didn't match the girl several days ago. Even under focused lighting, I don't think I can be more than 90% sure.

More importantly, what else can we do besides inspecting it visually? What are the possible negative consequences for mongers, if we did our best to confirm age?

Something you should consider, at least I do, if someone looks young, meaning under eighteen, I don't even bother asking for an ID and pass. Also another thing to consider are the hotels you are using in El Centro. The cheaper ones on the backside of the Church that charge 5 K are pretty loose as to whom they allow in, where as the higher costing Hotels like the Premium Plaza will check ID' and will have more experience in spotting fake ID's than you will. In regards to consequences, the age of consent in Colombia is 14 where as in the US it is 18 which all US Citizens must abide by anywhere in the World or suffer dire consequences.

[Surfer500]

As for guys sending their pregnant girlfriend out to earn money by having sex with strangers, is it really believable? Which girl in their right mind would do that? Does the future father feel any type of guilt? The amount of earning from his pregnant girlfriend is hardly enough to offset that internal guilt which will eat him alive. This arrangement is as unoptimized as it gets. Why not give her an abortion, in the long run, it will increase her earning potential and save both of them a ton of trouble.

I think you got a lot of the other posters thinking you were serious on this one.

[Surfer500]

I was kind of waiting for a Centro regular to answer this because I am curious myself. I am fairly certain that It is Calle 52 and Carrera 52, the southwest corner of Botero Plaza, one block north of Veracruz church (Iglesia De La Veracruz on a map). Ground Zero is not a place you will find listed on a map. It is just the spot that I assume Centro regulars consider the center of the action in Centro. If I am wrong I hope a Centro regular jumps in an corrects me.

I suppose I am to blame for all this confusion about what is Ground Zero as I have repeatedly identified the Intersection of Callle 52 and Carrea 52 where this is a street sign with signs identifying the location which I have referred to as Ground Zero in my posts. And as you have surmised, I consider it the center of the action in El Centro. In every direction you will find Chicas with easily a few hundred of them within a 500 foot radius of this location around 5 PM in the afternoon. The 500 foot radius would include all of the pedestrian walkway up to including the Veracruz Church and side street, all of the pedestrian walkway in front of the Museum, the entire park directly in front of the Intersection Calle 52 and Carrea 52, and the pedestrian walkway on the side of the Museum.

So over the past few years with the heavy influx of Venezuelans SW's, they basically have taken over the area immediately adjacent to Carrea 52 and Calle 52 by their sheer numbers. They have been congregating there, creating their own space away from the Colombians SW's, because the Colombian SW's are pissed off at them for taking away a lot of their business. They also tend to congregate in groups almost always, where as the Colombians don't congregate in groups much. There are so many of them now that it's almost like your in Venezuela at that intersection, and hence I liken it to a "Little Caracas".

[SJobs]

If so, do you mind sharing your opinion on this? I can't wait.

I have been back in hell for a few weeks. Now I'm too depressed to write anything of length. Why are the girls in America so unattractive and high maintenance? I can no longer go through a bumble date with a borderline attractive girl in her late 20's; her drinks for the night will cost more than a kick-ass 4-hour threesome with two hot Paisas. Man, someday I wish I have never stepped on that plane to Medellin. Anyways, the good news is that I will be back to Medellin in two weeks for another three-week stay. Maybe I will write something right after I get to Medellin before my first Tussi party.

[SJobs]

=I'll use you as an example. You're constantly mentioning 18 years old. I know women who are getting close to 30 who look more like an 18 year old than many Medellin 18 year olds. Yet, if I tell you their age, you will immediately lose interest. Because, no matter what your eyes see, your brain is telling you she's too old. Seeing the cedula didn't change her, it changed your perception.

Some guys see pregnancy as very attractive. Culturally, most primitive societies venerated pregnancy. Look at how often the female form is depicted pregnant. It's the ultimate virility symbol.

Evolution will invariably force us to favor the younger look and healthy body, I believe that's why 18-21-year-olds are so desirable to many of us. I agree the primitive-society can view pregnancy as a symbol of virility; however, from an evolutionary standpoint, I don't think the desire to have sexual intercourse with a pregnant chick is a feature that enhances the survival of our primitive ancestors, and here is why:

One of the key reasons why we are attracted to young and healthy women is because they have a higher likelihood of getting pregnant. Thus, giving us a higher chance to propagate our genes, we are genetically programmed to desire self-extension. In the case of having sex with a pregnant chick, they will certainly not get pregnant again during their pregnancy; therefore, banging a pregnant girl offers zero chance of gene propagation. Evolution will undoubtedly recognize this shortcoming and quickly eliminate the genes that lead to sexual desire towards pregnant women and promote the genes that find them sexually unattractive.

On the contrary, having the desire to ensure the survival of a pregnant girl is unquestionably a desirable feature that evolution will preserve; this is why sending the woman who is carrying one's child to work on a dangerous street produces a deep sense of guilty feeling.

Funny thing about the Catholics and abortion vs. Prostitution. One is a forgivable necessity, the other an unforgivable sin.

It took the Catholics church 200 years to admit that Copernicus and Galileo's heliocentric theory isn't heresy. I wonder how long it will take for them to change their opinion on abortion.

[SJobs]

Doing your best to confirm age doesn't mean anything.

There's really no guarantee on anything. Girls borrow cedulas from sisters, cousins and friends, or they go buy a fake one. It might not even mean they are under the magic age. If a girl has lost her cedula or had it stolen and she has a cita in a building where they check cedulas, she'll borrow one. That's an exception though.

The possible consequences. Search for stories on Colombia Jake. His situation was different from the typical monger, but his fate is one of the possible consequences. Even if the Colombian authorities just decide to kick you out of the country you can be certain someone will be waiting for you when you get off the plane.

This is my biggest concern mongering in Medellin. I searched for the story on "Colombia Jake" in the forum, but I couldn't find anything. More experienced mongers, please advise on the best way to avoid getting into trouble when all the girls are using fake IDs. As far as I can think of, entrapment is the only way for a monger to get caught. It is almost impossible for cops to randomly show up in your apartment while you are having sex with a girl who is using a fake ID. What happens to the girls if they get caught selling sex while using a fake ID?

[SJobs]

Education is people like all different things. One day I want to eat chili dogs and the next day I want to eat rotisserie chicken. One day I want to fuck a short dark-skin chick and the next day I want to fuck a tall white chick. One day I want to fuck a chick with really short hair and the next day I want to fuck a chick with really long hair. Why would I want to fuck an 18 year old full of energy and flexibility everyday? Hell, I didn't even like fucking 18 year olds when I was 18! And I don't go around checking IDs to make sure a chick is in a certain age bracket. That makes no sense to me. I go around and see a chick I like and I fuck them. Unless it is a special day, I don't go out hunting for a particular thing. Variety is the spice of life.

Fair enough. I like fucking girls in all varieties too. Depending on my mood, there are days I want short girls, days I want tall girls, some days I crave for dark-skin girls and other days I desire fair-skin girls, as long as they are young and full of energy and flexibility. The evolutionary argument made by Jjbee62 actually made some sense, but it has some inconsistencies. I will reply to his post directly on this topic. Maybe one day I will take a pregnant 18-year-old for a spin, at least I don't have to worry about getting her pregnant while fucking her.

Guilt? We are talking about street shit here. There is no guilt in street shit. Prostitution, tricking off, dope dealing, dope using, scamming. People that feel guilty are hanging in churches, and not out doing street shit. Why do you assume having an abortion will increase earning potential? Maybe she makes way more pregnant than she ever did not being pregnant. And save what kind of trouble?.

Really? If you follow the evolutionary train of reasoning, this type of guilt is a desirable feature that evolution will preserve. Regardless, from a pure efficiency standpoint, I'm sure a chick who is not pregnant can work more hours compare to a pregnant chick (especially during and after pregnancy). Rising a child involves more than just a little bit trouble, especially if the family is in financial hardship.

[GreenBud]

Ground Zero

Ground zero is obviously on Carrera 53, between Calle 51 and 52.

Ground zero Carrera 53 is a very short street. If you want to chose a corner, it will be one of the street corners listed above (Carrera 53/Calle 51 or Carrera 53/Calle 52).

[Mojo Bandit]

Sorry, if that has been mentioned many times. I did a quick forum search, looked at the Medellin map, and PDF, I don't see Ground Zero. I found "Cra 74 # 101 be - 04", but that is too far away from Centro. Is this just a code name for something?

I was kind of waiting for a Centro regular to answer this because I am curious myself. I am fairly certain that It is Calle 52 and Carrera 52, the southwest corner of Botero Plaza, one block north of Veracruz church (Iglesia De La Veracruz on a map). Ground Zero is not a place you will find listed on a map. It is just the spot that I assume Centro regulars consider the center of the action in Centro. If I am wrong I hope a Centro regular jumps in an corrects me.

[JjBee62]

Sufer mentioned many times that his chicas don't have phone. A good used / stolen smart phone cost about 100 K but many can't afford it. You can see mother pimp daughter out if you are around long enough. I got offer from chica with kid playing nearby. She said her "brother" helps her watch the kid while she is with customer. Most are poor and are doing it for survival

I've seen worse than that. Someone I knew chatted up a grandmother and granddaughter who run a kiosk in El Centro. He bought a 13 k dress from the grandmother, to give to the granddaughter, on the condition he could take the granddaughter back to his apartment for 20 k.

It's not just Colombia, or the third world. Way back when I worked for a San Diego towing company a woman offered up her daughter instead of cash to get her car out of impound.

[JjBee62]

Majo alvarez barrios FB entrepreneur. She is HOT in a barrio hoodrat kinda way with much plastic. Wondering if anyone had tried her out yet. If you want just PM me.

I've seen 2 reports on her. One said she was great, the other called her just average.

[JjBee62]

Oops, shit. Thanks for this info. I did have a feeling the ID didn't match the girl several days ago. Even under focused lighting, I don't think I can be more than 90% sure.

More importantly, what else can we do besides inspecting it visually? What are the possible negative consequences for mongers, if we did our best to confirm age?

Doing your best to confirm age doesn't mean anything.

There's really no guarantee on anything. Girls borrow cedulas from sisters, cousins and friends, or they go buy a fake one. It might not even mean they are under the magic age. If a girl has lost her cedula or had it stolen and she has a cita in a building where they check cedulas, she'll borrow one. That's an exception though.

The possible consequences. Search for stories on Colombia Jake. His situation was different from the typical monger, but his fate is one of the possible consequences. Even if the Colombian authorities just decide to kick you out of the country you can be certain someone will be waiting for you when you get off the plane.

[JjBee62]

Sorry, if that has been mentioned many times. I did a quick forum search, looked at the Medellin map, and PDF, I don't see Ground Zero. I found "Cra 74 # 101 be - 04", but that is too far away from Centro. Is this just a code name for something?

If you can find Plaza Botero, you're close enough to ground zero.

[Balboa]

As for guys sending their pregnant girlfriend out to earn money by having sex with strangers, is it really believable? Which girl in their right mind would do that? Does the future father feel any type of guilt? The amount of earning from his pregnant girlfriend is hardly enough to offset that internal guilt which will eat him alive. This arrangement is as unoptimized as it gets. Why not give her an abortion, in the long run, it will increase her earning potential and save both of them a ton of trouble.

You seem to be a cool guy, and you definitely enjoy Colombia, however, you're naive to the culture.

Basically, these dudes from the barrios do not give a f**k.