Medellin Reports

[Surfer500]

I'm confused about the demand for Venezuelans. Last I checked, they have all the same body parts as Colombians and they fuck the same. Maybe people are hoping to save some money, but when street prices in El Centro are already at 30 k, any savings is going to be minimal.

Then there's the comparison. I've walked those streets many times. There are always plenty of old, fat and ugly Colombians to be found. Heck, if she's still around, there's the toothless, one-legged woman who is always hopping around Veracruz. Sure you can find a few who are gems, although after 4 trips through you might have lowered your standards.

It really isn't a surprise that the lower quality Venezuelans have found their way to Botero Plaza. It's right next to the area where all the lower quality Colombians can be found. If you were a 8 or 9 girl, needing to make money, would you go where you can only hope to get 30 k or less each session, or would you go where you can get 150-250 k?

So where do you find all of the higher quality Venezuelans then. Do they work in the higher end clubs, casa's, or on Facebook.

And what about the toothless one legged woman around the Veracruz Church. I have been here for several months now and haven't run into her. Maybe she went into retirement?

[Balboa]

...One girl I met in a casa told me that there was a price lock in parque lleras because there is a person / group that runs this zone and the girls that work there all need to pay a fee to this person / group in order work there. She said if the fee wasn't paid there would probably be some type of extorsion / racketeering done to the said streetwalker ...

Haha, that's funny!

Just like the girl ay Gustos told me the other night that they have to charge a minimum of $200 dollars! LOL.

Then the next day she's texting me, saying Ok papi, 200 mil pesos will do, LOL.

Best thing I've found going in Medellin is just walking about Botero, Veracruz, etc, daytime.

Reconning for something sweet looking.

I hit gold 2 days in a row!

One 18 year old Vennie in Botero, another on the street with the Tavernas.

And actually another cutie working as a waitress passed me her phone number as I was leaving, and said, escríbame!

It's not that hard.

Main tactic, approach nicely, be nice, speaking Spanish maybe not completely required, however, obviously helps immensely.

Not like I'm special or anything, just nice, clean, friendly and I speak very good spanish.

Just as many fat and ugly Colombianas, as Venenozolanas.

Very easy to ignore and pass by.

Don't understand the big deal post concerning them.

[KilledSoul]

Every gringo who does not want to go to Centro or doesn't have skill to get FB contacts goes to Fase Dios. And combine that with Gringos comparing the Fase Dios prices to US prices and thinking its a good deal.

Just been in Fase dos the last days and talked to various girls. Quality average is 7/10 , only 2 or 3 stunners. But damn man, have the prices been inflated since last year, 3 girls asked 800 K for the whole night. And one girls asked for 300, I thought she meant 300 k peso but she explained its US dollars hahahaha. I said thats a cute little trick. Obviously I'm never going to pay that shite but its interesting to hear what's on their mind. Another girl with 10 body, which all the men were drooling over wanted 400 k for an hour and 600-800 for toda la noche LOL again. Some were willing to go down 600 k but that's about it.

Gringos must have really thrown around money here because otherwise I wouldn't hear this shite.

[KilledSoul]

I consider the door woman a feature not a bug. She will keep you out of the Colombian penal system preventing young girls with fake Cedulas from entering. I always treat her with respect and even tip her on occasion.....

I also view them as a security feature. Less chances of being mugged once WG knows her official ID is recorded. Other than Cuba, wonder why would someone not want a doorman in LatAm?

[Fun Luvr]

...The girls all know that they need their cedula. If they have a passport, and are over 18, they have a cedula. Why would anyone carry their passport instead of their cedula, or other government ID, in their own country?...

Not necessarily. I knew a lady in Medellin who lost her cedula. She used her passport as her ID for more than a year. I suppose she thought it was not that important to apply for a replacement cedula.

[Blue Touch]

The equilibrium remains the same.

With the massive influx of Venezuelan women and thirsty, thirsty gringos something has got to give when it comes to pricing. Economically, what happens when high supply meets high demand?

[Riina]

With the massive influx of Venezuelan women and thirsty, thirsty gringos something has got to give when it comes to pricing. Economically, what happens when high supply meets high demand?

Nothing, if it's an over supply of bad merchandise.

[Lou32]

Just been in Fase dos the last days and talked to various girls. Quality average is 7/10 , only 2 or 3 stunners. But damn man, have the prices been inflated since last year, 3 girls asked 800 K for the whole night. And one girls asked for 300, I thought she meant 300 k peso but she explained its US dollars hahahaha. I said thats a cute little trick. Obviously I'm never going to pay that shite but its interesting to hear what's on their mind. Another girl with 10 body, which all the men were drooling over wanted 400 k for an hour and 600-800 for toda la noche LOL again. Some were willing to go down 600 k but that's about it.

Gringos must have really thrown around money here because otherwise I wouldn't hear this shite.

I avoided google translation and just spoke my terrible beginner Spanish. Perhaps if I spoke better spanish it wouldn't make any difference either because the girls are not here for that, they are here to scam clueless gringos.

My cab driver told me that the reason you see the hottest girls mostly at gringo places is exactly because you pay a lot of money and we get them for free or over a hamburger. These are results of Medellin being overexposed.

With the massive influx of Venezuelan women and thirsty, thirsty gringos something has got to give when it comes to pricing. Economically, what happens when high supply meets high demand?

[Surfer500]

I have been staying there for years. It used to be wide open. There have been many incidents there with guys throwing crazy parties and disturbing the people who live there. Many apartments there now have T&Cs prohibiting prostitution and you can be be evicted if you create a scene. My advise (worth what you pay for it), keep a low profile. I suspect the reason a Passport isn't accepted is that the door woman has an app that checks the validity of the Cedula and that this app does not work on passports. Tell your chicas they have to bring a physical official Cedula (many have these counterfeit letters saying it is a temporary Cedula). Making a scene, being disrespectful or having a high profile is only going to result in harsher policies on future guests. I had girls showing up with all kinds of crazy ID and had no issues with the doorwoman turning them away. I told them exactly what they needed to bring and its not hard to get a replacement chica in Medellin in short order. I also tell them to dress reasonably, not like a hooker selling her ass on the street...

Excellent advice on all counts, especially maintaining a low profile.

[Jayson01]

Just been in Fase dos the last days and talked to various girls. Quality average is 7/10 , only 2 or 3 stunners. But damn man, have the prices been inflated since last year, 3 girls asked 800 K for the whole night. And one girls asked for 300, I thought she meant 300 k peso but she explained its US dollars hahahaha. I said thats a cute little trick. Obviously I'm never going to pay that shite but its interesting to hear what's on their mind. Another girl with 10 body, which all the men were drooling over wanted 400 k for an hour and 600-800 for toda la noche LOL again. Some were willing to go down 600 k but that's about it.

Gringos must have really thrown around money here because otherwise I wouldn't hear this shite.

I avoided google translation and just spoke my terrible beginner Spanish. Perhaps if I spoke better spanish it wouldn't make any difference either because the girls are not here for that, they are here to scam clueless gringos.

My cab driver told me that the reason you see the hottest girls mostly at gringo places is exactly because you pay a lot of money and we get them for free or over a hamburger. These are results of Medellin being overexposed.

[Charm City Dave]

Currently staying at Blux Apartamentos in Poblado. I heard beforehand that they were chica friendly, and they technically are, but the doorwomen are complete hardasses who won't let any chica through that doesn't have her physical ID on her. I've already had two regulars ejected because one only had a photo of her ID on her phone and the other brought a passport instead. Apparently a passport isn't considered a proper ID in Colombia, someone explain that to me!

I have been staying there for years. It used to be wide open. There have been many incidents there with guys throwing crazy parties and disturbing the people who live there. Many apartments there now have T&Cs prohibiting prostitution and you can be be evicted if you create a scene. My advise (worth what you pay for it), keep a low profile. I suspect the reason a Passport isn't accepted is that the door woman has an app that checks the validity of the Cedula and that this app does not work on passports. Tell your chicas they have to bring a physical official Cedula (many have these counterfeit letters saying it is a temporary Cedula). Making a scene, being disrespectful or having a high profile is only going to result in harsher policies on future guests. I had girls showing up with all kinds of crazy ID and had no issues with the doorwoman turning them away. I told them exactly what they needed to bring and its not hard to get a replacement chica in Medellin in short order. I also tell them to dress reasonably, not like a hooker selling her ass on the street. I consider the door woman a feature not a bug. She will keep you out of the Colombian penal system preventing young girls with fake Cedulas from entering. I always treat her with respect and even tip her on occasion.....

[JjBee62]

Relax there are some nice Venezuelans to be had, you just have to be patient and sift thru all of the disgusting ones!

I'm confused about the demand for Venezuelans. Last I checked, they have all the same body parts as Colombians and they fuck the same. Maybe people are hoping to save some money, but when street prices in El Centro are already at 30 k, any savings is going to be minimal.

Then there's the comparison. I've walked those streets many times. There are always plenty of old, fat and ugly Colombians to be found. Heck, if she's still around, there's the toothless, one-legged woman who is always hopping around Veracruz. Sure you can find a few who are gems, although after 4 trips through you might have lowered your standards.

It really isn't a surprise that the lower quality Venezuelans have found their way to Botero Plaza. It's right next to the area where all the lower quality Colombians can be found. If you were a 8 or 9 girl, needing to make money, would you go where you can only hope to get 30 k or less each session, or would you go where you can get 150-250 k?

[Surfer500]

You know, I always wondered why girls who make less money don't go to Parque Lleras and charge 100 k-150 k sessions to beat out the standard 200 k-300 k sessions charged to gringos. One girl I met in a casa told me that there was a price lock in parque lleras because there is a person / group that runs this zone and the girls that work there all need to pay a fee to this person / group in order work there. She said if the fee wasn't paid there would probably be some type of extorsion / racketeering done to the said streetwalker, or maybe intimidation tactics. She said the streetwalker sex trade in Medellin was somewhat equivalent to the drug trade in the sense that different groups run different parts of town. I don't know what the fee is, but if you've read my previous posts you could probably tell I'm interested in the economics of the sex trade, as it helps in negotiating better long term deals and is in general interesting to me.

Anyway I can't really investigate further I'm in Brazil right now, but if one of you were interested in discovering more about the economics of the sexual marketplace in Medellin, ask a parque lleras streetwalker who the "duea de la zona" is and how much she charges them, her rules, etc. This may be interesting. Or it might all be bullshit from a casa girl LOL that made up some ridiculous excuse for why she didn't want to work in lleras and make 5 x more in one session than she does in 1 day.

You are aware that all of the girls selling candy in Medellin are members of the "Dulce Union" which set prices that they can sell the candy for. I will head up to Parque Lleras tonight and report back to you in the morning as to what I find out about the economics of the sexual marketplace there.

[JjBee62]

You know, I always wondered why girls who make less money don't go to Parque Lleras and charge 100 k-150 k sessions to beat out the standard 200 k-300 k sessions charged to gringos. One girl I met in a casa told me that there was a price lock in parque lleras because there is a person / group that runs this zone and the girls that work there all need to pay a fee to this person / group in order work there. She said if the fee wasn't paid there would probably be some type of extorsion / racketeering done to the said streetwalker, or maybe intimidation tactics. She said the streetwalker sex trade in Medellin was somewhat equivalent to the drug trade in the sense that different groups run different parts of town. I don't know what the fee is, but if you've read my previous posts you could probably tell I'm interested in the economics of the sex trade, as it helps in negotiating better long term deals and is in general interesting to me.

Anyway I can't really investigate further I'm in Brazil right now, but if one of you were interested in discovering more about the economics of the sexual marketplace in Medellin, ask a parque lleras streetwalker who the "duea de la zona" is and how much she charges them, her rules, etc. This may be interesting. Or it might all be bullshit from a casa girl LOL that made up some ridiculous excuse for why she didn't want to work in lleras and make 5 x more in one session than she does in 1 day.

Seems highly doubtful to me. I've invited dozens of girls, from all over, to attend parties in Parque Lleras. I have a friend who invites hundreds a few times a year and has done so for several years. Often the girls will come to a party, take advantage of the paid taxi, get some free drinks and then head out to the park to see if they can get a higher price.

There are also a wide variety of women working the park. From the low end, the one I call Frankenstein, an experiment in excessive body modification that went horribly wrong, to genuine college girls, who only show up once a month.

[JjBee62]

Currently staying at Blux Apartamentos in Poblado. I heard beforehand that they were chica friendly, and they technically are, but the doorwomen are complete hardasses who won't let any chica through that doesn't have her physical ID on her. I've already had two regulars ejected because one only had a photo of her ID on her phone and the other brought a passport instead. Apparently a passport isn't considered a proper ID in Colombia, someone explain that to me!

How many places in the US, that require an ID, will accept a picture of your driver's license? Try that one at a liquor store some time.

The girls all know that they need their cedula. If they have a passport, and are over 18, they have a cedula. Why would anyone carry their passport instead of their cedula, or other government ID, in their own country? Was she expecting you to fly her to Dubai?

There are 4 reasons why your girls didn't get in to the building.

1. They aren't old enough.

2. The IDs they were trying to use, weren't theirs.

3. They lost their IDs and were trying to get by.

4. They loaned their IDs to someone who isn't old enough.

Security probably has strict rules about who they allow to enter. One of the rules is probably that all women, entering as guests of gringos, must present a valid cedula. When you set up with the girls you should be telling them, no cedula, no cita.