Medellin Reports

[Lou32]

Just been in Fase dos the last days and talked to various girls. Quality average is 7/10 , only 2 or 3 stunners. But damn man, have the prices been inflated since last year, 3 girls asked 800 K for the whole night. And one girls asked for 300, I thought she meant 300 k peso but she explained its US dollars hahahaha. I said thats a cute little trick. Obviously I'm never going to pay that shite but its interesting to hear what's on their mind. Another girl with 10 body, which all the men were drooling over wanted 400 k for an hour and 600-800 for toda la noche LOL again. Some were willing to go down 600 k but that's about it.

Gringos must have really thrown around money here because otherwise I wouldn't hear this shite.

I avoided google translation and just spoke my terrible beginner Spanish. Perhaps if I spoke better spanish it wouldn't make any difference either because the girls are not here for that, they are here to scam clueless gringos.

My cab driver told me that the reason you see the hottest girls mostly at gringo places is exactly because you pay a lot of money and we get them for free or over a hamburger. These are results of Medellin being overexposed.

With the massive influx of Venezuelan women and thirsty, thirsty gringos something has got to give when it comes to pricing. Economically, what happens when high supply meets high demand?

[Surfer500]

I have been staying there for years. It used to be wide open. There have been many incidents there with guys throwing crazy parties and disturbing the people who live there. Many apartments there now have T&Cs prohibiting prostitution and you can be be evicted if you create a scene. My advise (worth what you pay for it), keep a low profile. I suspect the reason a Passport isn't accepted is that the door woman has an app that checks the validity of the Cedula and that this app does not work on passports. Tell your chicas they have to bring a physical official Cedula (many have these counterfeit letters saying it is a temporary Cedula). Making a scene, being disrespectful or having a high profile is only going to result in harsher policies on future guests. I had girls showing up with all kinds of crazy ID and had no issues with the doorwoman turning them away. I told them exactly what they needed to bring and its not hard to get a replacement chica in Medellin in short order. I also tell them to dress reasonably, not like a hooker selling her ass on the street...

Excellent advice on all counts, especially maintaining a low profile.

[Jayson01]

Just been in Fase dos the last days and talked to various girls. Quality average is 7/10 , only 2 or 3 stunners. But damn man, have the prices been inflated since last year, 3 girls asked 800 K for the whole night. And one girls asked for 300, I thought she meant 300 k peso but she explained its US dollars hahahaha. I said thats a cute little trick. Obviously I'm never going to pay that shite but its interesting to hear what's on their mind. Another girl with 10 body, which all the men were drooling over wanted 400 k for an hour and 600-800 for toda la noche LOL again. Some were willing to go down 600 k but that's about it.

Gringos must have really thrown around money here because otherwise I wouldn't hear this shite.

I avoided google translation and just spoke my terrible beginner Spanish. Perhaps if I spoke better spanish it wouldn't make any difference either because the girls are not here for that, they are here to scam clueless gringos.

My cab driver told me that the reason you see the hottest girls mostly at gringo places is exactly because you pay a lot of money and we get them for free or over a hamburger. These are results of Medellin being overexposed.

[Charm City Dave]

Currently staying at Blux Apartamentos in Poblado. I heard beforehand that they were chica friendly, and they technically are, but the doorwomen are complete hardasses who won't let any chica through that doesn't have her physical ID on her. I've already had two regulars ejected because one only had a photo of her ID on her phone and the other brought a passport instead. Apparently a passport isn't considered a proper ID in Colombia, someone explain that to me!

I have been staying there for years. It used to be wide open. There have been many incidents there with guys throwing crazy parties and disturbing the people who live there. Many apartments there now have T&Cs prohibiting prostitution and you can be be evicted if you create a scene. My advise (worth what you pay for it), keep a low profile. I suspect the reason a Passport isn't accepted is that the door woman has an app that checks the validity of the Cedula and that this app does not work on passports. Tell your chicas they have to bring a physical official Cedula (many have these counterfeit letters saying it is a temporary Cedula). Making a scene, being disrespectful or having a high profile is only going to result in harsher policies on future guests. I had girls showing up with all kinds of crazy ID and had no issues with the doorwoman turning them away. I told them exactly what they needed to bring and its not hard to get a replacement chica in Medellin in short order. I also tell them to dress reasonably, not like a hooker selling her ass on the street. I consider the door woman a feature not a bug. She will keep you out of the Colombian penal system preventing young girls with fake Cedulas from entering. I always treat her with respect and even tip her on occasion.....

[JjBee62]

Relax there are some nice Venezuelans to be had, you just have to be patient and sift thru all of the disgusting ones!

I'm confused about the demand for Venezuelans. Last I checked, they have all the same body parts as Colombians and they fuck the same. Maybe people are hoping to save some money, but when street prices in El Centro are already at 30 k, any savings is going to be minimal.

Then there's the comparison. I've walked those streets many times. There are always plenty of old, fat and ugly Colombians to be found. Heck, if she's still around, there's the toothless, one-legged woman who is always hopping around Veracruz. Sure you can find a few who are gems, although after 4 trips through you might have lowered your standards.

It really isn't a surprise that the lower quality Venezuelans have found their way to Botero Plaza. It's right next to the area where all the lower quality Colombians can be found. If you were a 8 or 9 girl, needing to make money, would you go where you can only hope to get 30 k or less each session, or would you go where you can get 150-250 k?

[Surfer500]

You know, I always wondered why girls who make less money don't go to Parque Lleras and charge 100 k-150 k sessions to beat out the standard 200 k-300 k sessions charged to gringos. One girl I met in a casa told me that there was a price lock in parque lleras because there is a person / group that runs this zone and the girls that work there all need to pay a fee to this person / group in order work there. She said if the fee wasn't paid there would probably be some type of extorsion / racketeering done to the said streetwalker, or maybe intimidation tactics. She said the streetwalker sex trade in Medellin was somewhat equivalent to the drug trade in the sense that different groups run different parts of town. I don't know what the fee is, but if you've read my previous posts you could probably tell I'm interested in the economics of the sex trade, as it helps in negotiating better long term deals and is in general interesting to me.

Anyway I can't really investigate further I'm in Brazil right now, but if one of you were interested in discovering more about the economics of the sexual marketplace in Medellin, ask a parque lleras streetwalker who the "duea de la zona" is and how much she charges them, her rules, etc. This may be interesting. Or it might all be bullshit from a casa girl LOL that made up some ridiculous excuse for why she didn't want to work in lleras and make 5 x more in one session than she does in 1 day.

You are aware that all of the girls selling candy in Medellin are members of the "Dulce Union" which set prices that they can sell the candy for. I will head up to Parque Lleras tonight and report back to you in the morning as to what I find out about the economics of the sexual marketplace there.

[JjBee62]

You know, I always wondered why girls who make less money don't go to Parque Lleras and charge 100 k-150 k sessions to beat out the standard 200 k-300 k sessions charged to gringos. One girl I met in a casa told me that there was a price lock in parque lleras because there is a person / group that runs this zone and the girls that work there all need to pay a fee to this person / group in order work there. She said if the fee wasn't paid there would probably be some type of extorsion / racketeering done to the said streetwalker, or maybe intimidation tactics. She said the streetwalker sex trade in Medellin was somewhat equivalent to the drug trade in the sense that different groups run different parts of town. I don't know what the fee is, but if you've read my previous posts you could probably tell I'm interested in the economics of the sex trade, as it helps in negotiating better long term deals and is in general interesting to me.

Anyway I can't really investigate further I'm in Brazil right now, but if one of you were interested in discovering more about the economics of the sexual marketplace in Medellin, ask a parque lleras streetwalker who the "duea de la zona" is and how much she charges them, her rules, etc. This may be interesting. Or it might all be bullshit from a casa girl LOL that made up some ridiculous excuse for why she didn't want to work in lleras and make 5 x more in one session than she does in 1 day.

Seems highly doubtful to me. I've invited dozens of girls, from all over, to attend parties in Parque Lleras. I have a friend who invites hundreds a few times a year and has done so for several years. Often the girls will come to a party, take advantage of the paid taxi, get some free drinks and then head out to the park to see if they can get a higher price.

There are also a wide variety of women working the park. From the low end, the one I call Frankenstein, an experiment in excessive body modification that went horribly wrong, to genuine college girls, who only show up once a month.

[JjBee62]

Currently staying at Blux Apartamentos in Poblado. I heard beforehand that they were chica friendly, and they technically are, but the doorwomen are complete hardasses who won't let any chica through that doesn't have her physical ID on her. I've already had two regulars ejected because one only had a photo of her ID on her phone and the other brought a passport instead. Apparently a passport isn't considered a proper ID in Colombia, someone explain that to me!

How many places in the US, that require an ID, will accept a picture of your driver's license? Try that one at a liquor store some time.

The girls all know that they need their cedula. If they have a passport, and are over 18, they have a cedula. Why would anyone carry their passport instead of their cedula, or other government ID, in their own country? Was she expecting you to fly her to Dubai?

There are 4 reasons why your girls didn't get in to the building.

1. They aren't old enough.

2. The IDs they were trying to use, weren't theirs.

3. They lost their IDs and were trying to get by.

4. They loaned their IDs to someone who isn't old enough.

Security probably has strict rules about who they allow to enter. One of the rules is probably that all women, entering as guests of gringos, must present a valid cedula. When you set up with the girls you should be telling them, no cedula, no cita.

[Nounce]

There were several posts beforehand giving him advice, tips, and price points for him to use, but he didn't take the advice given him that he requested from this group. Sometimes stupid is just stupid.

I think people need to give newbies a break. It is not just about knowing the prices.

I don't know what he thinks but I see he did negotiate from his post to get multiple hours and multiple shots which may not be necessary. That maybe the reason he thinks the price is OK.

More experience mongers will have better discipline so they are always ready to walk away from a bad deal, the same can't be said for newbies.

[Talon]

Currently staying at Blux Apartamentos in Poblado. I heard beforehand that they were chica friendly, and they technically are, but the doorwomen are complete hardasses who won't let any chica through that doesn't have her physical ID on her. I've already had two regulars ejected because one only had a photo of her ID on her phone and the other brought a passport instead. Apparently a passport isn't considered a proper ID in Colombia, someone explain that to me!

[SallySally]

You know, I always wondered why girls who make less money don't go to Parque Lleras and charge 100 k-150 k sessions to beat out the standard 200 k-300 k sessions charged to gringos. One girl I met in a casa told me that there was a price lock in parque lleras because there is a person / group that runs this zone and the girls that work there all need to pay a fee to this person / group in order work there. She said if the fee wasn't paid there would probably be some type of extorsion / racketeering done to the said streetwalker, or maybe intimidation tactics. She said the streetwalker sex trade in Medellin was somewhat equivalent to the drug trade in the sense that different groups run different parts of town. I don't know what the fee is, but if you've read my previous posts you could probably tell I'm interested in the economics of the sex trade, as it helps in negotiating better long term deals and is in general interesting to me.

Anyway I can't really investigate further I'm in Brazil right now, but if one of you were interested in discovering more about the economics of the sexual marketplace in Medellin, ask a parque lleras streetwalker who the "dueña de la zona" is and how much she charges them, her rules, etc. This may be interesting. Or it might all be bullshit from a casa girl LOL that made up some ridiculous excuse for why she didn't want to work in lleras and make 5 x more in one session than she does in 1 day.

[Surfer500]

Was in El Centro today and couldn't find any of my Colombian regulars so I decided to hang out by the Veracruz Church for a while. Lots of girls with bags of candy walking around and I saw one of interest so I motioned her over. I gave her a 200 Peso coin and took a piece of candy. I then put the piece of candy back in the bag, I really did not want it, but was more interested in the merchandise. Nice smile, big tits, twenty two years old, a little bigger than I typically like but after talking with her she was very pleasant and told me she was from Venezuela with two kids. One thing led to another, and besides selling candy, of course she did "ratos" and quoted me 25,000 Pesos for everything. So I could of been a hard ass and said 20,000 Pesos which I know she would of accepted but declined to. Checked into the Hotel Zona Rosa, took showers, and then I sat her down and told her if she did a good job, there would be tip for her. That put a smile on her face and she delivered. Afterwards she told me she was in Medellin with her Mom, Aunt, Uncle and her kids They have been in Medellin for a month now and crossed into Colombia with their Cedulas as allowed by Immigration. I asked her if her other family members were working in MDE and she said no as they did not have permits to do so. So my final question to her was, how do they survive if they don't have work. The answer was, they were relying on her solely. A sad tale for me and an eye opener has to how bad things must be for them. I told her about what was going on in the USA, with the difference being the Central Americans fearing for their lives, versus the Venezuelans starving more or less. Such a sweetheart, I felt really bad for her and gave her 50,000 Pesos.

[Riina]

Millions of chicks. Why are you trying to back track to old problems dude? Let those ships sail and move on to new frontiers.

Could not agree with you more. No reboot of financial based relationships.

[Surfer500]

There's no quality to be had with Venezuelans anywhere in Colombia? Man, that sounds disappointing.

Relax there are some nice Venezuelans to be had, you just have to be patient and sift thru all of the disgusting ones!

[JustTK]

My observation of the area is mostly similar to Surfer's. Just to add, there is an influx of poor, non-Paisa, Colombians as well, and the robberies and violence could possibly be done largely by these Colombian new-comers rather than the Venezuelans. However, I see that the locals are blaming Venezuelans.

It's always easy and very common for locals to blame immigrants for all the problems of the world. I have seen it in many countries, most notably in my own, when locals started murdering immigrants becuase they thought that they were stealing their jobs, ruining their local businesses etc. It's called protectionism and is a direct result of a world with borders.