Medellin Reports

[Revere]

My experience of Manrique. I am almost twice your age, very tall, green eyes and blondish hair so I stick out anywhere I go especially the few nights I went with a paisa chick and her 8 or 9 friends to this area, this was about 8 months back, your right zero gringos, 99% of everyone there is in their 20's to early 30's, little to no prepagos just the locals out to drink and dance and have fun.

I am tempted to visit again but yes only with a friend or two.

The Tall Man.

Even if you stick out. Your fine. The most important thing for an 18 year old - 24 year old chick is she goes to club and dances and impresses her friends that she is cool with the songs. You know how to dance to what young chicks like now which is Latin Trap, reggaeton, hip hop chicks will want to hang with you and be seen with you in the club. The club everyone watches each other to see who is about it. You all have to know that from experience. J Balvin from Columbia is doing it. You do not know who he is then your out of touch with what young chicks like to listen too.

[Orgasmico]

Any place can be as dangerous as you make it, so I guess I'll say Bello is very dangerous, stay away! .

Keeping it real, if anyone is planning to be in this area anytime soon try to stay abreast of what is going on there before you go. This is something I always do since I am anywhere in the city on any given day.

[Tasss]

I haven't mongered in the USA in about 35 years. Is it really cheaper even when you factor in the transportation and housing costs of traveling to Medellin, etc.?

I'm a late to the action but I'll give my 2 cents. Obviously it depends on quite a few things. I'm paying about 500-600 for a round trip flight to MDE accounting for taxi / Uber costs in the US as well as the flight itself. This is my biggest initial cost. The longer I stay, the more value you get out of my trip. Accommodations was $25/ day with an Airbnb coupon for what I consider to be a very adequate place in Laureles. I paid $430 in total for my trip. In my city, the lowest rate / HR I can easily find for a girl that meets my standard is $220 for Korean AAMP. I don't go to the streets in my city since there's enough LE here that it's somewhat risky. The same quality (BBBJ and GFE with CFS) for an hour in MDE I believe is probably about 80 k (or $26 from Centro, but I never got that type of service and my average session was with a Facebook girl who gave me BBFS at my apartment. Cost of that with everything, including round trip taxi is about 190 k or $63. Considering that $157 difference, I make the initial $900-1000 cost back by the 6th session about, or day 3 since I was doing about 2 / day in the beginning. I had 22 sessions during my trip, so it really really worked out for me. Additionally I've gotten services that would have made it much more expensive in the US, like taking videos.

This is great, I'll give it a try tomorrow. Very annoyed at ATM showing me rate of 3800 for GBP when the rate is 4000 and I know that my card gives me bank rate. They are cheeky then, they don't offer you an option to change it, it looks likes if you hit cancel you can't continue to do withdrawal. Thanks.

Davivienda has no fees and their ATMs should be very common. When I calculated the amount of USD withdrawn from my checking account, the conversion rate was 0. 6% off of the official rate that day as reported by Google. They never prompted me to approve an exchange rate. Probably BBVA is the same but I have no experience using one of their ATMs.

[Sean EZ]

Other helpful tips learnt. When you withdraw cash from the ATM, the machine will offer you a rate and make it sound like that's your only option, always click decline that rate and then it defaults to the MasterCard or Visa rate and it will still dispense the cash. If you click yes then you are offering the bank the opportunity to change at their rate.

This is great, I'll give it a try tomorrow. Very annoyed at ATM showing me rate of 3800 for GBP when the rate is 4000 and I know that my card gives me bank rate. They are cheeky then, they don't offer you an option to change it, it looks likes if you hit cancel you can't continue to do withdrawal. Thanks.

[Knowledge]

Thanks for the great report, nicely done. I don't remember seeing the ATM thing you mentioned. Maybe it's the cards you are using? I've always gotten very competitive exchange rates. The ATM fees can get silly unless you have a card that refunds them. I don't think about it much until the end of the month when I see the refunds on my statement. It can really add up quickly.

Since FB girls were not as responsive, I went to check out apparently the two best stripe clubs in town.

First The girls La Isla. Paid the 10 mil cover and security were quite nice after that. They do try to take care of the customer if you don't come across as a jerk. Anyway entered and it was relatively quiet. One really hot 9/10 and the rest were 7-8 and some even 5-6. Drinks were 25 k for a beer. So sat had a beer and took in the scene. The girls would come by for tips and you basically got a 5 sec lap dance, and you could gripe and you put the 2 mil in their hating or somewhere like that. Some came bare breasted and others with bikini top on. The 9/10 was clearly in demand and her attitude reflected that. She would also go to the back a couple of times in the 2 hrs or so I was there. Didn't feel like sessioning and left around 1 am. They call trusted cabs there who charge you a bit more but at that hour you want to be safe and 10 v 20 mil is not what I care about. The place is up in the hilly area heading back towards the airport I think. On my way back, got pulled over by the cops, someone mentioned the same thing earlier, they just asked me to disembark and to see my documents, then they were jovial about how I was checking out the Chicas, and I told them yes senor only to look, we had a chuckle and back in and back to my hotel..

[The Tall Man]

For the adventurous types that would like to venture out to a local Medellin spot full of hot paisas, clubs, bars and street food, I'll recommend la 45 in Manrique or Obrero in Bello. My first time in la 45 a couple years back was when a girl I connected well with working at Energy invited me there for a bday party. The experience was crazy fun. I was the only guy at the table with 5-6 hot paisas. Of course, I wouldn't recommend going alone, best way is to go with a local chick you connect with who lives in or knows the area. If you're younger, speak decent Spanish, and looking for fun, eye opening, non gringo experience, la 45 is a nice spot to check out. It's def not for the faint of heart, but the party scene is like lleras on speed with hot young paisas and 0 foreigners. BTW, there's lots of youngsters in that area so got to make sure to check cedula. I'm a chino in my 30's so I stand out, but I dress and speak like a local. I always say I'm a chino paisa.

Every time I return to MDE, I always check out la 45 at least once. I'll be in Medellin next month, anyone down to check out la 45 with me, hit me up. Can't beat 50 mil bottle service! Enough to supply 3-4 girls and myself.

My experience of Manrique. I am almost twice your age, very tall, green eyes and blondish hair so I stick out anywhere I go especially the few nights I went with a paisa chick and her 8 or 9 friends to this area, this was about 8 months back, your right zero gringos, 99% of everyone there is in their 20's to early 30's, little to no prepagos just the locals out to drink and dance and have fun.

I am tempted to visit again but yes only with a friend or two.

The Tall Man.

[Orgasmico]

I have done an extended stay in Bello and I don't remember spotting many gringos, maybe a few at most. The only gringos I saw were the friends I invited over.

I know a few gringos that live in Bello and I ride my bike up there about once a week and I often see gringos in Bello and Niquia as well. No biggie. I see them all over Medellin. I don't think it is a bad thing. Definitely don't see nearly as many as I see in other parts for obvious reasons. I've gone all the way out to Copacabana and Barbosa and saw gringos out there too.

[Sangnyc21]

Oh really? LOL.

Depends on the gringo, brotha.

Pretty wide Bell Curve of gringos.

Not all are built alike, or hard to be seen with or be with.

Most of these younger hotter girls have social statuses in their own hood. At times, regardless of how young the gringo might be they still don't want to be seen with them because their peers will judge them.

[Balboa]

Only bottom of the barrel girls would want to be seen with a gringo in public in their neighborhood.

Oh really? LOL.

Depends on the gringo, brotha.

Pretty wide Bell Curve of gringos.

Not all are built alike, or hard to be seen with or be with.

[RiceRocket99]

I'm sure there are guys here who have been invited and visited barrios where they get to meet the girl's friends and family. Key part is being invited, so you don't have to worry about the BF or whatever. I have met the most friendly paisas walking around the girls' barrios and their families are always warm and welcoming. Then I get to bang her hard afterwards like I'm the last man on earth LOL.

But if you are scared of being robbed or kidnapped, then stay in your gringo lane.

I don't think most of these girls who are 18-22 years old want to be seen with a 50-60 year old gringo in their hood where they most likely have bfs and their families.

Only bottom of the barrel girls would want to be seen with a gringo in public in their neighborhood.

[GeneHickman]

Since FB girls were not as responsive, I went to check out apparently the two best stripe clubs in town.

First The girls La Isla. Paid the 10 mil cover and security were quite nice after that. They do try to take care of the customer if you don't come across as a jerk. Anyway entered and it was relatively quiet. One really hot 9/10 and the rest were 7-8 and some even 5-6. Drinks were 25 k for a beer. So sat had a beer and took in the scene. The girls would come by for tips and you basically got a 5 sec lap dance, and you could gripe and you put the 2 mil in their hating or somewhere like that. Some came bare breasted and others with bikini top on. The 9/10 was clearly in demand and her attitude reflected that. She would also go to the back a couple of times in the 2 hrs or so I was there. Didn't feel like sessioning and left around 1 am. They call trusted cabs there who charge you a bit more but at that hour you want to be safe and 10 v 20 mil is not what I care about. The place is up in the hilly area heading back towards the airport I think. On my way back, got pulled over by the cops, someone mentioned the same thing earlier, they just asked me to disembark and to see my documents, then they were jovial about how I was checking out the Chicas, and I told them yes senor only to look, we had a chuckle and back in and back to my hotel.

Next day went to Fase Dos. Better atmosphere and on average better women. Maybe less silicone too. Again girls ranged form a 4 (yes there was a 4!) old fat tired and smelly, gawd she should retire. Most were 6-8 I would say. Someone said 6 k for a coke, but the bartender charged me 10 k and I wasn't about to argue. Sat there with some younger Colombian Guys who were having fun on one side and a businessman on a trip visiting from Bogota. I had some convo, then tipped the Chicas as they came by (people mentioned it already, but take a bunch of 2 mil notes, reccomend 20-25 notes if you plan to stay for a while as the Chicas will come and demand their 2 mil. Anyway it was fun and my main thing was Inwanted to see both these clubs. I left around 12:30 after a couple hours here and the young driver got lost, so we went through all sorts of interesting places and this dude does not stop for red lights, he just believes they are a suggestion to slow down, LOL. Anyway, I wasn't about to insist when there is an element of risk to stopping at that hour, but anyway he was cool and what should have been a 10 min ride was like 30 min. I felt bad for the guy, and gave him 5 mil extra on top of the 15 mil it should have been and he was happy.

I eventually got around to seeing a couple of FB Chicas. One was excellent and the other was a forgettable experience. The one that was a good experience was well reviewed on this board and she came on time was sincere and we had a nice time. I finished twice in 1 HR, we relaxed forn20 mins then showered together and Inwalked her down.

I would say that many mongers here are not good about sharing information and that is their prerogative. I have also seen some of them and they are some weird ass. You do feel for some of these Chicas as mongers too come in all sorts of ways. Clearly not all are gentlemen. I will just leave it at that. Not criticizing but just sharing what I have seen.

In my opinion it is almost more important to be willing to share the bad experiences and avoid the bad ones, as it is to get info on the good ones. The one I got off FB today was atrocious. She insisted on taxi, 25 k then 25 k each way, was on her cell phone, seemed hyper like she was on something, and to top it off, had a gross fishy odor downstairs. My hotel slapped me with a 150 mil surcharge to add insult to injury. Now I am not here to hurt anyone's livelihood but that's just a shitty sequence of events. I just stopped a minute or two in and asked her to shower, only slightly better, so I asked her to finish off orally and she did. We were done in 30 mins and the way she was acting, I got the vibe that I should finish quickly and get it done with, so did exactly that. The hotel didn't even have change downstairs and I had to walk with her to a nearby shop to pay her return taxi fare. She would not let me Uber her. She clearly was high mileage and from the same Bello people are talking about here.

Other helpful tips learnt. When you withdraw cash from the ATM, the machine will offer you a rate and make it sound like that's your only option, always click decline that rate and then it defaults to the MasterCard or Visa rate and it will still dispense the cash. If you click yes then you are offering the bank the opportunity to change at their rate.

Parque Arvi, paragliding, Walking city tour and Guarape were all worth it for me. And great value as well. The place never felt unsafe. I walked all over Poblado and Laureles even at night and it felt safe. Rule of thumb avoid anywhere isolated. As long as there are plenty of people around and you keep your wits about you, and don't stand out you will be fine. Spanish is needed. Even a little goes a long way. I would say I am 20-25%, I managed but at times with difficulty. If you don't have Spanish and risk averse, safe yourself the trial and risk and go with the mansion. Colombian women are generally sweet and really good GFE, perhaps more than anywhere else and maybe why many Gringos keep returning time after time.

Overall I enjoyed my time here. I would consider it as a retirement destination but I can see the inflation emerging and the attitudes changing. Definitely not a guarantee it will be this way in 5-10 yrs. I'the in fact bet it will not.

[RiceRocket99]

I have done an extended stay in Bello and I don't remember spotting many gringos, maybe a few at most. The only gringos I saw were the friends I invited over. Any place can be as dangerous as you make it, so I guess I'll say Bello is very dangerous, stay away! .

I'm in places like Belen and Bello all the time and I always see gringos. I think that used to be true but gringos are increasingly everywhere except for in the mountains and the really rough areas. The Belgium guy that was just kidnapped in Bello and robbed for something like $32,000 USD is an example.

[RiceRocket99]

I agree that a 50+ dude with a 18-22 hottie is a dead giveaway, but I'm talking to the 30's age group that knows his way around Medellin and speaks decent Spanish. The young backpackers and Israelis are also competing in Medellin so you got to stand out a bit in terms of civvie action. But hey if you just want the Mansion experience, more power to you. The Mansion was where I started so I understand that angle.

I don't think most of these girls who are 18-22 years old want to be seen with a 50-60 year old gringo in their hood where they most likely have bfs and their families.

Only bottom of the barrel girls would want to be seen with a gringo in public in their neighborhood.

[Orgasmico]

I don't think most of these girls who are 18-22 years old want to be seen with a 50-60 year old gringo in their hood where they most likely have bfs and their families.

Only bottom of the barrel girls would want to be seen with a gringo in public in their neighborhood.

I agree to a large extent but that is Medellin in general. That being said, I do see younger guys pulling more attractive paisas these days. I think that is a benefit of more foreigners here and a greater comfort level with seeing them more ingrained into daily life and not just the druggies and sex tourists.

In addition, older guys can get something decent for them (probably with kids) if they spread enough money around and treat everyone like family. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I know guys that come here and go for the type I never would but they like a certain look. It is like Sosua where I used to see guys go there for the Haitians when I was there for the Dominicanas. Different strokes for different folks.

[Orgasmico]

People have said Medellin is being overrun with gringos or even ruined by them. I'll say that is true to a certain extent if you limit yourself to the Poblado area. But if you go out of the gringo zones, there's still lots of spots where foreigners are non existent and still have an X factor. Barrios in the Robledo, Aranjuez, Bello, Belen, Manrique reas are the best.

I'm in places like Belen and Bello all the time and I always see gringos. I think that used to be true but gringos are increasingly everywhere except for in the mountains and the really rough areas. The Belgium guy that was just kidnapped in Bello and robbed for something like $32,000 USD is an example.