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  1. #28480

    Out of Respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    It's worth pointing out that a Samsung J3 used, goes for 100-200 k in Medellin. You're bartering a $60 phone for $30 pussy. And you're paying cab fare on top of that.
    For the board, I never once mentioned how long the girl stays for the phone, plus, I am always into business. If I only pay $50 us for a J3 (which I frequently do) & I keep the girl for 6 to 8 hours, do I look like a fool afterwards? Many mongers forget its up to them to set the terms of the deal that they are negotiating. A cell phone is the most valuable item a girl in Medellin can have. You'd be surprised at how many girls I have given phones to, even after a year in medellin, these girls still have these phones on & communicate with me daily, same number & all. I fully understand if you're a "casa guy! " the phone is a horrible trade (JjBee) but rarely do I ever take a girl & not keep her all day. That's just my tactic. Thanks to you Mr. E, I have tightened up my mongering game and see it for what it is, they are doing a job & we are paying, therefore I want work to be done & completed to my satisfaction or no second "Cita! " When I hit any of the clubs or Vera Cruz in Centro, the girls are klinging on me for a date, but you better best believe I obtain everything I want from the deal before bringing the girl back to my room. Not one date have I had in over a year, do I not have photos, videos, & all 3 holes, or no more "Cita! ". I took a big note from you Mr. E, these girls are not making a guaranteed $300-$500 mil pesos daily in Veracruz & centro. So if I'm guaranteeing that amount, I get what I desire out of the deal. To each their own, but I love when guys post about these girls & the girls feelings, and why the sell themselves, its not my concern. They never offer money back & always seem to be broke the next day. Figure that bullsht out? We both get opportunities in the deal, what they are? Are things we both feel we need at the time! Pollonegro is out!

  2. #28479
    Hi guys,

    I am glad a sparked a conversation but I think my original words might have been misinterpreted. I will try to reply individually to everyone who was kind enough to weigh in.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    This is all part of doing your own thing. Somewhere out there there's a guy who brings along a complete Mrs. Doubtfire costume for girls to wear, because that's his thing. Guys bring shoes or pantyhose, or lingerie, or bondage gear. It's whatever they need to get the most enjoyment out of their sessions.

    You bring toys to use, but it's not really for the girls. It's part of what you enjoy. I understand. You get more pleasure when they get more pleasure. These aren't gifts or barter items, they're part of the person's desires. It all fits in with trying to normalize the encounter. Note that "normal" varies from person to person.

    I do gifts differently. If I had a great time, which requires more than good sex, then I might invite her back for something longer. Maybe a shopping trip to buy her something to wear and not just something for my enjoyment. Maybe dinner and a movie, or something nice for her kids. My reasoning is, if I give her something to convince her to show me the best time, then I'm committed to that routine with her every time, and she'll start to expect it from others. But, if she gives me her best without expecting a bonus, then a reward might be in order.
    I agree 100% with what you've said. I bring toys because this is what gets me off. I do not do it because I'm under some sort of delusion that by doing that I'm somehow less of a monger. The girl's pleasure is there purely to enhance mine and not to make me feel better. I am one of those guys who isn't really able to get into it if the girl isn't a bit too. It seems to me that you are by far a much better person in the sense you actually care about their personal lives and don't mind improving them within reason. I simply don't have that level of empathy. I will always respect the girls and be a gentleman with them because that is how I was brought up but I will not get involved enough to do any of the above. I have enough drama and "real" dates back at home that I wouldn't appreciate a watered down Colombian version. Also I don't care.

    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    How do you know the local guys are selfish?
    Because quite a few (if not the majority) girls have told me so. And trust me, they weren't trying to flatter me or anything. Quite a few said it in a derogatory way as something almost less manly. Maybe it's just a direct result of where these girls come from. I doubt there is much room for romance and similar stuff when your first worry when you wake up is how you're going to feed yourself and your family. Perhaps girls of a higher social extraction (and perhaps more westernized) are different. To be clear I'm talking about whatever novio they're banging on the side not local punters.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    The local guys are there to pay to fuck and cum. Foreigners are there to pay to try to please the hooker by making her cum and showering her with gifts and tips.
    How nice it must be to have all the answers. If your idea of a good time is to get a girl in a room and come as quickly as possible, then that's your choice. No need to be sarcastic. Using a dildo in a session doesn't equal to showering a girl with gifts and trips. Maybe you were talking in a more general sense but I assure you that's not what I (or any seasoned monger for that matter) do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orgasmico  [View Original Post]
    Very good question. But who even cares what the locals do? Culturally, the chicas and chicos know their roles.

    My general impression is that the chicas are content when they've made you cum and you walk away happy. If you want extras, you negotiate that into the price of the service most of the time. As far as trying to figure out what is in their head, I don't bother. These girls do this for a living so I don't know if they are acting or serious unless they really let me know by doing something unusual. After all, in the casas, at least, it's like an assembly line. I love new pussy but if I find one or two in a casa that give me exceptional service that is what is important to me.
    Very true. Who cares what the locals do. I say live and let live. There are clearly very different personalities and way to approach mongering. As long as we can all agree on not pushing the rates up, everyone should be able to do whatever they prefer without feeling judged.

  3. #28478
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    It's worth pointing out that a Samsung J3 used, goes for 100-200 k in Medellin. You're bartering a $60 phone for $30 pussy. And you're paying cab fare on top of that.
    Then if you fuck the same chick twice do you give her another phone or what? One of the failures of a bartering system is that what either party is bargaining with may be worth more or less than what they are getting in return. That is why people came up with money, so they can adjust the "price" of the trade. Plus as I said before you can travel with it easier.

    People are known for stealing out of bags when going to and from Latin America. That is why you see those plastic wrapping places. Then you end up paying for more luggage because you are bringing a bunch of shit. Then you end up running afoul of Customs when they see you with 10 phones. Why not keep it simple?

  4. #28477
    Quote Originally Posted by JustIncognito  [View Original Post]
    I always ask the front door to call me when they see 'he'are getting ready to leave, like in the elevators (cameras in halls / lobby / elevators) or as they approach the exit- My main hotel front desk person there usually calls and says, in Spanish: 'Just seeing if you need anything sir. ' If I am missing something I can have her stopped. If I don't answer they will stop her and check on me (so they say--its never happened). You get the idea.
    What is with the code words? In the Philippines they just call your room and ask if it is okay for the girl to leave.

  5. #28476

    Clubs to bring my working girls.

    What are the best clubs to bring my working girls to? If for example I have 3 chicks with me what club would be the best for this? Don't want to go to a normal club with couples and what not, then show up with 3 WG.

  6. #28475
    Quote Originally Posted by PolloNegro  [View Original Post]
    Since traveling to Medellin. 1 Too many guys have a need to understand why girls participate in the activity of selling their body to earn money, I see it as a job and if you can not deliver on the job or deliver what you market, you should not be working or marketing. If you can not be on time, you deserve to loose money and customers. Too many gringos settle for subpar service as a result of making themselves believe that are steal receiving a good deal. I am a contract type of guy and if you can not meet the terms of our agreement, then why should I pay you or honor your "Cita?" I don't, and I don't have to see you again, there are far too many girls in Medellin to be negotiating with one, if she flakes, move on, trust me, it does not get better and behavior is habitual............................
    As with all aspects of life there will always be different approaches as there are different types of people. I am unable to be cold and calculating and am always accommodating. Of course I will be taken advantage of, that's life, but I will not change. I see myself as being very privileged in relation to these girls. However, I've not always been this well off. I have been down there and experienced starvation and deprivation. When I was down I was actually pushed further down by women, so called respectable women; on the other hand I was also helped by women, one of whom was actually a prostitute.

    Many mongers look down on working girls and think of them as morally inferior (what a warped mental state!). I do not see them as morally inferior to other women. However, I do have a higher regard for them than many of the NGO women who are trying to 'save' them.

    With regards to my relationship with them I do not see it as akin to a legal contract of offer, acceptance and execution ruled by market forces and cut and dry with respect to time and remuneration. I see it as very flexible and somewhere between a binding contract and a tryst, but closer to the latter. I have enjoyed forty plus years in this hobby due in no small measure to my aforementioned approach.

  7. #28474
    I need a trip like yours. And I'm going to look up Luna strip club. Any more details you can provide there? I will be there in 10 days thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustIncognito  [View Original Post]
    I have stayed at the same hotel several times now in Medellin. They register the girl and call me upstairs in my room to get my approval to let her up and to let me know she is coming. A couple of times I was downstairs waiting, usually not. I always ask the front door to call me when they see 'he'are getting ready to leave, like in the elevators (cameras in halls / lobby / elevators) or as they approach the exit- My main hotel front desk person there usually calls and says, in Spanish: 'Just seeing if you need anything sir. ' If I am missing something I can have her stopped. If I don't answer they will stop her and check on me (so they say--its never happened). You get the idea..

  8. #28473
    Quote Originally Posted by PolloNegro  [View Original Post]
    Since traveling to Medellin. 1 Too many guys have a need to understand why girls participate in the activity of selling their body to earn money, I see it as a job and if you can not deliver on the job or deliver what you market, you should not be working or marketing. If you can not be on time, you deserve to loose money and customers. Too many gringos settle for subpar service as a result of making themselves believe that are steal receiving a good deal. I am a contract type of guy and if you can not meet the terms of our agreement, then why should I pay you or honor your "Cita?" I don't, and I don't have to see you again, there are far too many girls in Medellin to be negotiating with one, if she flakes, move on, trust me, it does not get better and behavior is habitual. 2. If you bring the right gifts, you can barter many items for sex, do no allow anyone on this board to tell you different. For example: you want to get some exciting sex and only pay cab fee, bring a girl a somewhat new Samsung or Iphone, and it does not have to be up to date, it just has to look new and function well, many of the girls in Centro and Vera Cruz will definitely trade sex for nearly new J3- J5 or J7 phone, it does not have to be the flagship Galaxy S5-S9's, I have done it many times. 3. Last but not least, unless I am the luckiest monger on this side of the planet, the best place and deals to monger are in Centro. If you listen to any on this board that says different, they are bold face lying, scared, or acted out of character and revealed that they were targets of being robbed. I am in no way the biggest or baddest guy on the planet, but I did travel to Medellin 17 times last year..
    It's worth pointing out that a Samsung J3 used, goes for 100-200 k in Medellin. You're bartering a $60 phone for $30 pussy. And you're paying cab fare on top of that.

  9. #28472
    What are the best online sites and if you do list can you recommend some girls? Thanks!

  10. #28471
    Quote Originally Posted by PolloNegro  [View Original Post]
    Since traveling to Medellin. 1 Too many guys have a need to understand why girls participate in the activity of selling their body to earn money, I see it as a job and if you can not deliver on the job or deliver what you market, you should not be working or marketing. If you can not be on time, you deserve to loose money and customers. Too many gringos settle for subpar service as a result of making themselves believe that are steal receiving a good deal. I am a contract type of guy and if you can not meet the terms of our agreement, then why should I pay you or honor your "Cita?" I don't, and I don't have to see you again, there are far too many girls in Medellin to be negotiating with one, if she flakes, move on, trust me, it does not get better and behavior is habitual. 2. If you bring the right gifts, you can barter many items for sex, do no allow anyone on this board to tell you different. For example: you want to get some exciting sex and only pay cab fee, bring a girl a somewhat new Samsung or Iphone, and it does not have to be up to date, it just has to look new and function well, many of the girls in Centro and Vera Cruz will definitely trade sex for nearly new J3- J5 or J7 phone, it does not have to be the flagship Galaxy S5-S9's, I have done it many times. 3. Last but not least, unless I am the luckiest monger on this side of the planet, the best place and deals to monger are in Centro. If you listen to any on this board that says different, they are bold face lying, scared, or acted out of character and revealed that they were targets of being robbed. I am in no way the biggest or baddest guy on the planet, but I did travel to Medellin 17 times last year. I stayed in Centro each time, and not one time was I robbed, harmed, or afraid to go to Vera Cruz to pick up a girl to take back to my room..
    Haha. *Drops the mic and exits stage right*. Great post. Thanks for the info!

  11. #28470

    Another way to play it safer and a report.

    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    Yes they are not as safe as having a security guard register her. When a hotel asks for your guests ID its for YOUR safety. They will even tell you that as they register her if you ask them why its necessary. That way anything goes sideways the cops will know who was in there with you.
    I have stayed at the same hotel several times now in Medellin. They register the girl and call me upstairs in my room to get my approval to let her up and to let me know she is coming. A couple of times I was downstairs waiting, usually not. I always ask the front door to call me when they see 'he'are getting ready to leave, like in the elevators (cameras in halls / lobby / elevators) or as they approach the exit- My main hotel front desk person there usually calls and says, in Spanish: 'Just seeing if you need anything sir. ' If I am missing something I can have her stopped. If I don't answer they will stop her and check on me (so they say--its never happened). You get the idea.

    I have never had a problem, and I am always sure to very casually mention, either as she is checking in at the front desk, or at some point when I can, in a sly way, that the hotel does this. When they knock at the door I always ask if everything was smooth when 'she' registered. If I am standing with her while she registers I comment about how they will call to check on me when she leaves and how they can be 'strict' there. I go with some variation of, 'they can be kinda strict or crazy here--last year when I had another friend over, they even called me when they saw her on camera in the hallway when she was leaving to make sure all was good with me. Anyway, you look great, I'm so happy to see you'.

    Just another little subtle way to be protected.

    This hotel does not charge any fee unless 'she' is in the room after 10 pm (or maybe 9? Even if it is just a few minutes. But, before then: no charge.

    Best way to not have a chica problem (imo) communicate clearly before she arrives! And: be nice. Don't squabble over a few bucks--that doesn't mean just acquiesce to some nonsense or her attempts to extract more than previously communicated about before she arrived-but a couple of times, I had to 'let it go' when my instincts felt 'this one' could turn into a loose cannon or drama--those never get seen again. Some of the smooth flow girls sometimes get call backs. Have some wine / snacks to offer and be clean. Upon check in, I ask the hotel to remove any mini-bar items / ottles of wine etc that they provided to the room--so she can't help herself to them and then I get charged some silly price. AND never pay upfront! ONLY pay at the end of the session! If she has a problem with that, tell her she can walk--she won't-unless you're being a dick. (imo).

    On another note here's a report from my trip just after new years for 1 week:

    I had some nice luck with a few strip club babes.

    Most strip club chicks I try to see out of the club offer me 500 COP TLN. That seems, for me, to be the going rate. Last one I took out was an unbelievable babe from Luna Lunera. Honestly, just gorgeous, sexy, easy going, compliant, GFE--a dream for me. She was present and into it--def. Didn't feel like acting. 24, single mom of a 3 year old. No baby damage at all-another advantage of strip club chicks compared to facebook or tinder and even some casa chicks. Curvy but slim and fit.

    Sessioned for an hour at the club for 250 k including the pretty nice large room with clean sheets nice clean shower and a couch --good scene all they way around--smooth and easy and safe. One interesting note: they took her phone when we 'registered' (aka when I paid) for the room. She said it was to make it so we couldn't arrange for to meet outside the club. Having been there before: A. I took her number and put it into my phone -without saying it out loud (in case they we were listening LOL.) AND what was the point of taking her phone but not mine? LOL! And be: I brought a small piece of paper with my Whatsapp and nothing else written on it. As we were leaving and in our final kiss / embrace before leaving, I showed it to her and she hid it to take it with her. I felt we really connected and they didn't call to make me leave until 70 minutes which was cool since we were making out and hitting my vape pen / chatting a bit at the end of a great session. I showed up there at 1130 ish and left just around 1 AM. Had a nice long chat outside with a security guy from the club for about 20 minutes-the girl was with us for about 2-3 of it and then she thanked me, hugged me, kissed on the cheek and said goodbye--we in NO WAY hinted that we would try and see each other again when we were out of the room--and she made sure to remind me to be discreet when we left the room so we acted like it was cool, but whatever. Pretty chill and cool people. Security guy then walked me to a taxi at the sidewalk and wished me well. She was so coy / cold outside the room, I kinda felt that maybe she was just going to throw out my Whatsapp paper and I wasnt going to see her again.

    The next day at about 3 pm I got a Whatsapp message from her! YES! I didn't call 1st--she was into it! . or she just wanted some cash and had some free time LOL. I responded pretty quickly, with 'I was hoping to hear from you-I didn't want to seem desperate so I was waiting to message you. ' I then asked if she had to go to the club to work tonight or if she wanted to have fun with me.

    We set it up for that night at 8 pm. I let her know, if she wanted earlier --I will be ready for her. At 630 I messaged her that I was thinking of her and to ask if she wanted me to get anything for her (food / drink etc) She said: she is coming soon without acknowledging my offer to get stuff. A little confusing. She showed up at 745 pm and left at about 10 the next morning. It was pretty much anything goes and we spent more time horizontally and active--the horizontal mambo as I call it. Than I could have hoped for! I came a few times, so did she. We slept for maybe 2-3 hours. I had some hummus, spanikopitas, falafel, tahini etc -all new to her but she ate and enjoyed. Also some juice, candles, music, chocolates, cookies, whip cream we had fun with and a cool ambiance. We drank a good bit, and smoked a bunch of weed. Great time!

    I gave her 500 COP, plus another 40 for her taxis. Than I threw in another 60 k just because / tip / I hope to see her again / the 20 bucks on top just felt like what I wanted / the right thing. She was happy, so was I, and I am sure we will party again-I hope more than one night on my next trip.

    A couple of Tinder hotties. One a true solid 10 dream girl named SARA that visited me was a fitness model and was literally perfect looking. She insisted on 50 k propina for oral sin condom (BBBJ) but she was so hot it was worth it. She cost me 370 in all for 3 ish hours, 2 cums and a 3rd attempt (I was dry). (300 base, taxi for 20 and 50 for bbbjcimtc) pricey, but my god, she was just unbelievably perfect-I didn't think she would show up looking like the perfect pictures and she exceeding anything I could have hoped for. She has over 100 k followers on instagram--I found that out when she showed me, in between rounds of great sex! Sorry, she asked me not to share her info with anyone. We messaged quite a bit for 2-3 days on Whatsapp before she agreed to come over.

    The other was an 8 in looks and an 8 in service. (for me) she got on my dick so fast upon arrival LOL I needed just some more foreplay, but, she just stared swallowing my dick without a rubber on without us even discussing it, out on the balcony, mid bong hit during intro small talk- she just grabbed me, pulled it out and went right for it- right outside on the balcony fully dressed. LOL anyway, we agreed on 250 k for her to show up. I blew 2 loads, she stayed just over 2 hours. I gave her 275- 25 k for the taxi and 250 agreed rate -and she seemed happy.

    Also had a great session at one of the centro strip clubs -tiny, young, hot little black chick at 430 pm. 2 loads released for 60 k plus 10 k propina. At first, I wasn't going to f*ck her but she insisted LOL! I came fairly quick in that tight pussy! Multiple positions, and I was finished in 10-15 minutes. Surprised how easy she made me cum with a condom on! We snuggled for a few, making out, and her caressing my balls. Then she got me hard again and fantastic BBBJCIMTC with rim job and amazing ball sucking-she took every drop and drained me good. Told me she had a baby when she was like 15 or something and was now 20 I think?? A tiny bit of post baby tit sag but otherwise no baby damage. She was TINY but fantastic attitude and service. I left as it wsa getting dark, just about 6 pm and straight to the metro with no problem. She offered me 500 k TLN but I didn't have any other nights. I will poke around and hope to find her next time I am in Medellin.

    Luna Lunera girl was my favorite overall and the sexiest to me. Casa strip club girl was such an amazing value and super fun.

    Already booked the next trip for 10 days in late June / July.

  12. #28469
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    How do you know the local guys are selfish?
    Very good question. But who even cares what the locals do? Culturally, the chicas and chicos know their roles.

    My general impression is that the chicas are content when they've made you cum and you walk away happy. If you want extras, you negotiate that into the price of the service most of the time. As far as trying to figure out what is in their head, I don't bother. These girls do this for a living so I don't know if they are acting or serious unless they really let me know by doing something unusual. After all, in the casas, at least, it's like an assembly line. I love new pussy but if I find one or two in a casa that give me exceptional service that is what is important to me.

  13. #28468

    Me either

    I'm not doing it every session just a few. They are so cheap on aliexpress. A luvkis mini vibrator is $6 and avidlove sets are less than $9 as well. Just something to spice up a few sessions between casa runs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baudelairemod  [View Original Post]
    I always bring a couple of toys to have fun with the ladies and improve the quality of the performance. I am always amazed at how "selfish" the local guys are. Wham bam thank you ma'am without caring the least about whether the girl is enjoying herself. To me it seems pretty obvious that the hornier the girl is, the better the session. And let's face it guys, there's no way we can compete with them little engines!

    Not sure my wallet could take giving a vibrator to every single chica though.
    .

  14. #28467
    I am lucky I was not eating or drinking when I read this because I laughed so hard I would have spit all over my screen. This funny as hell and often very true.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    The local guys are there to pay to fuck and cum. Foreigners are there to pay to try to please the hooker by making her cum and showering her with gifts and tips.

  15. #28466

    3 Lessons I have learned.

    Since traveling to Medellin. 1 Too many guys have a need to understand why girls participate in the activity of selling their body to earn money, I see it as a job and if you can not deliver on the job or deliver what you market, you should not be working or marketing. If you can not be on time, you deserve to loose money and customers. Too many gringos settle for subpar service as a result of making themselves believe that are steal receiving a good deal. I am a contract type of guy and if you can not meet the terms of our agreement, then why should I pay you or honor your "Cita?" I don't, and I don't have to see you again, there are far too many girls in Medellin to be negotiating with one, if she flakes, move on, trust me, it does not get better and behavior is habitual. 2. If you bring the right gifts, you can barter many items for sex, do no allow anyone on this board to tell you different. For example: you want to get some exciting sex and only pay cab fee, bring a girl a somewhat new Samsung or Iphone, and it does not have to be up to date, it just has to look new and function well, many of the girls in Centro and Vera Cruz will definitely trade sex for nearly new J3- J5 or J7 phone, it does not have to be the flagship Galaxy S5-S9's, I have done it many times. 3. Last but not least, unless I am the luckiest monger on this side of the planet, the best place and deals to monger are in Centro. If you listen to any on this board that says different, they are bold face lying, scared, or acted out of character and revealed that they were targets of being robbed. I am in no way the biggest or baddest guy on the planet, but I did travel to Medellin 17 times last year. I stayed in Centro each time, and not one time was I robbed, harmed, or afraid to go to Vera Cruz to pick up a girl to take back to my room. Many guys will send you out to Poblado and Laureles and other areas to keep you away from centro because the best rates and the easiest girls are found right there in Centro. If you want to spend more money, have a false sense of security, and depend on people who prey on overcharging gringos. Go right ahead to Poblado, Laureles and everywhere else, I will continue to return to Centro, where the girls are plentiful and the prices are cheap. Remember this, those who have to most to lose will always stir you away from where the gold is by using fear tactics and trying to convince you that a particular place is bad. I had to learn this the hard way and finally came to terms that many mongers on the board want all of the Gems for themselves. I believe in treating people the same way that I am treated, if I don't work, then I don't eat, that philosophy alone has save me much money and much heart ache, to each his own, I just wanted to chime in for any potential guys who may want to travel to Medellin and not be overcharged by establishments in over saturated areas of gringos like Poblado and Laureles. Many on the board have never been to a so called "bad area" in the US, let alone Centro after dark. Thats just my two cent on recent posts on the board with so much warning literature, most of it is hype and geared to drive you to places that over charge gringo's unnecessarily. Pollonegro is out. See You in March Medellin.

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