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  1. #28485
    Excellent casa session today. I was walking around downtown and saw a spot that had the casa MO or look so I rang the bell to see and it turned out to be a casa with about 8 girls. Took a spinner. Wanted 25,000 tip for BBBJ. Good head job, licked balls, etc. Pussy was nice and tight. Busted my nutt and kept fucking for about another 10 minutes after I came. This place charged me 45,000 after the deed was done. So in total, it cost me $70,000 for BBBJ and a good fuck.

  2. #28484
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    No. They do it because it is fast easy money. For some reason a lot of mongers see it as these women are about to starve and have no other choice. To that I say bullshit.

    I am in Rio right now with a girl I have known for a couple of years that cleans hotel rooms for a living. Best job? Probably not. But she is not making excuses in order to prostitute herself. As much as I love hookers, I am not fooled into thinking they have no other choice.

    A lot of Venezuelans are abroad because their country is fucked up. There are a lot of Venezuelan chicks horing themselves. But I know one Venezuelan chick in Lima that was an engineer in her country but does nails in Peru. I know another that works in an optical shop. I know another that works in a restaurant. Etc. There IS a choice.

    I will consider mongers to be charitable souls when they start giving these poor girls money without fucking them. Just walk up to the projects and pass money out if you feel that bad for them.
    Ha I think you've misunderstood me! I don't feel bad about them. I thank geopolitical and global financial inequality every day. Only way we can fuck these gorgeous women and spend so little in the process. But I do get your point that there are other options out there. "Starving" was perhaps a touch too much.

  3. #28483
    Quote Originally Posted by Baudelairemod  [View Original Post]
    My bad, man. I guess they must be doing it for the love of the dick. Such charitable souls!
    No. They do it because it is fast easy money. For some reason a lot of mongers see it as these women are about to starve and have no other choice. To that I say bullshit.

    I am in Rio right now with a girl I have known for a couple of years that cleans hotel rooms for a living. Best job? Probably not. But she is not making excuses in order to prostitute herself. As much as I love hookers, I am not fooled into thinking they have no other choice.

    A lot of Venezuelans are abroad because their country is fucked up. There are a lot of Venezuelan chicks horing themselves. But I know one Venezuelan chick in Lima that was an engineer in her country but does nails in Peru. I know another that works in an optical shop. I know another that works in a restaurant. Etc. There IS a choice.

    I will consider mongers to be charitable souls when they start giving these poor girls money without fucking them. Just walk up to the projects and pass money out if you feel that bad for them.

  4. #28482
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    This kind of thing is said in the Dominican Republic thread too. I have yet to see a starving Dominicnan or Colombian. Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos are probably saying the same about us.
    My bad, man. I guess they must be doing it for the love of the dick. Such charitable souls!

  5. #28481
    Quote Originally Posted by Baudelairemod  [View Original Post]
    Maybe it's just a direct result of where these girls come from. I doubt there is much room for romance and similar stuff when your first worry when you wake up is how you're going to feed yourself and your family.
    This kind of thing is said in the Dominican Republic thread too. I have yet to see a starving Dominicnan or Colombian. Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos are probably saying the same about us.

  6. #28480

    Out of Respect.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    It's worth pointing out that a Samsung J3 used, goes for 100-200 k in Medellin. You're bartering a $60 phone for $30 pussy. And you're paying cab fare on top of that.
    For the board, I never once mentioned how long the girl stays for the phone, plus, I am always into business. If I only pay $50 us for a J3 (which I frequently do) & I keep the girl for 6 to 8 hours, do I look like a fool afterwards? Many mongers forget its up to them to set the terms of the deal that they are negotiating. A cell phone is the most valuable item a girl in Medellin can have. You'd be surprised at how many girls I have given phones to, even after a year in medellin, these girls still have these phones on & communicate with me daily, same number & all. I fully understand if you're a "casa guy! " the phone is a horrible trade (JjBee) but rarely do I ever take a girl & not keep her all day. That's just my tactic. Thanks to you Mr. E, I have tightened up my mongering game and see it for what it is, they are doing a job & we are paying, therefore I want work to be done & completed to my satisfaction or no second "Cita! " When I hit any of the clubs or Vera Cruz in Centro, the girls are klinging on me for a date, but you better best believe I obtain everything I want from the deal before bringing the girl back to my room. Not one date have I had in over a year, do I not have photos, videos, & all 3 holes, or no more "Cita! ". I took a big note from you Mr. E, these girls are not making a guaranteed $300-$500 mil pesos daily in Veracruz & centro. So if I'm guaranteeing that amount, I get what I desire out of the deal. To each their own, but I love when guys post about these girls & the girls feelings, and why the sell themselves, its not my concern. They never offer money back & always seem to be broke the next day. Figure that bullsht out? We both get opportunities in the deal, what they are? Are things we both feel we need at the time! Pollonegro is out!

  7. #28479
    Hi guys,

    I am glad a sparked a conversation but I think my original words might have been misinterpreted. I will try to reply individually to everyone who was kind enough to weigh in.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    This is all part of doing your own thing. Somewhere out there there's a guy who brings along a complete Mrs. Doubtfire costume for girls to wear, because that's his thing. Guys bring shoes or pantyhose, or lingerie, or bondage gear. It's whatever they need to get the most enjoyment out of their sessions.

    You bring toys to use, but it's not really for the girls. It's part of what you enjoy. I understand. You get more pleasure when they get more pleasure. These aren't gifts or barter items, they're part of the person's desires. It all fits in with trying to normalize the encounter. Note that "normal" varies from person to person.

    I do gifts differently. If I had a great time, which requires more than good sex, then I might invite her back for something longer. Maybe a shopping trip to buy her something to wear and not just something for my enjoyment. Maybe dinner and a movie, or something nice for her kids. My reasoning is, if I give her something to convince her to show me the best time, then I'm committed to that routine with her every time, and she'll start to expect it from others. But, if she gives me her best without expecting a bonus, then a reward might be in order.
    I agree 100% with what you've said. I bring toys because this is what gets me off. I do not do it because I'm under some sort of delusion that by doing that I'm somehow less of a monger. The girl's pleasure is there purely to enhance mine and not to make me feel better. I am one of those guys who isn't really able to get into it if the girl isn't a bit too. It seems to me that you are by far a much better person in the sense you actually care about their personal lives and don't mind improving them within reason. I simply don't have that level of empathy. I will always respect the girls and be a gentleman with them because that is how I was brought up but I will not get involved enough to do any of the above. I have enough drama and "real" dates back at home that I wouldn't appreciate a watered down Colombian version. Also I don't care.

    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    How do you know the local guys are selfish?
    Because quite a few (if not the majority) girls have told me so. And trust me, they weren't trying to flatter me or anything. Quite a few said it in a derogatory way as something almost less manly. Maybe it's just a direct result of where these girls come from. I doubt there is much room for romance and similar stuff when your first worry when you wake up is how you're going to feed yourself and your family. Perhaps girls of a higher social extraction (and perhaps more westernized) are different. To be clear I'm talking about whatever novio they're banging on the side not local punters.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    The local guys are there to pay to fuck and cum. Foreigners are there to pay to try to please the hooker by making her cum and showering her with gifts and tips.
    How nice it must be to have all the answers. If your idea of a good time is to get a girl in a room and come as quickly as possible, then that's your choice. No need to be sarcastic. Using a dildo in a session doesn't equal to showering a girl with gifts and trips. Maybe you were talking in a more general sense but I assure you that's not what I (or any seasoned monger for that matter) do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orgasmico  [View Original Post]
    Very good question. But who even cares what the locals do? Culturally, the chicas and chicos know their roles.

    My general impression is that the chicas are content when they've made you cum and you walk away happy. If you want extras, you negotiate that into the price of the service most of the time. As far as trying to figure out what is in their head, I don't bother. These girls do this for a living so I don't know if they are acting or serious unless they really let me know by doing something unusual. After all, in the casas, at least, it's like an assembly line. I love new pussy but if I find one or two in a casa that give me exceptional service that is what is important to me.
    Very true. Who cares what the locals do. I say live and let live. There are clearly very different personalities and way to approach mongering. As long as we can all agree on not pushing the rates up, everyone should be able to do whatever they prefer without feeling judged.

  8. #28478
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    It's worth pointing out that a Samsung J3 used, goes for 100-200 k in Medellin. You're bartering a $60 phone for $30 pussy. And you're paying cab fare on top of that.
    Then if you fuck the same chick twice do you give her another phone or what? One of the failures of a bartering system is that what either party is bargaining with may be worth more or less than what they are getting in return. That is why people came up with money, so they can adjust the "price" of the trade. Plus as I said before you can travel with it easier.

    People are known for stealing out of bags when going to and from Latin America. That is why you see those plastic wrapping places. Then you end up paying for more luggage because you are bringing a bunch of shit. Then you end up running afoul of Customs when they see you with 10 phones. Why not keep it simple?

  9. #28477
    Quote Originally Posted by JustIncognito  [View Original Post]
    I always ask the front door to call me when they see 'he'are getting ready to leave, like in the elevators (cameras in halls / lobby / elevators) or as they approach the exit- My main hotel front desk person there usually calls and says, in Spanish: 'Just seeing if you need anything sir. ' If I am missing something I can have her stopped. If I don't answer they will stop her and check on me (so they say--its never happened). You get the idea.
    What is with the code words? In the Philippines they just call your room and ask if it is okay for the girl to leave.

  10. #28476

    Clubs to bring my working girls.

    What are the best clubs to bring my working girls to? If for example I have 3 chicks with me what club would be the best for this? Don't want to go to a normal club with couples and what not, then show up with 3 WG.

  11. #28475
    Quote Originally Posted by PolloNegro  [View Original Post]
    Since traveling to Medellin. 1 Too many guys have a need to understand why girls participate in the activity of selling their body to earn money, I see it as a job and if you can not deliver on the job or deliver what you market, you should not be working or marketing. If you can not be on time, you deserve to loose money and customers. Too many gringos settle for subpar service as a result of making themselves believe that are steal receiving a good deal. I am a contract type of guy and if you can not meet the terms of our agreement, then why should I pay you or honor your "Cita?" I don't, and I don't have to see you again, there are far too many girls in Medellin to be negotiating with one, if she flakes, move on, trust me, it does not get better and behavior is habitual............................
    As with all aspects of life there will always be different approaches as there are different types of people. I am unable to be cold and calculating and am always accommodating. Of course I will be taken advantage of, that's life, but I will not change. I see myself as being very privileged in relation to these girls. However, I've not always been this well off. I have been down there and experienced starvation and deprivation. When I was down I was actually pushed further down by women, so called respectable women; on the other hand I was also helped by women, one of whom was actually a prostitute.

    Many mongers look down on working girls and think of them as morally inferior (what a warped mental state!). I do not see them as morally inferior to other women. However, I do have a higher regard for them than many of the NGO women who are trying to 'save' them.

    With regards to my relationship with them I do not see it as akin to a legal contract of offer, acceptance and execution ruled by market forces and cut and dry with respect to time and remuneration. I see it as very flexible and somewhere between a binding contract and a tryst, but closer to the latter. I have enjoyed forty plus years in this hobby due in no small measure to my aforementioned approach.

  12. #28474
    I need a trip like yours. And I'm going to look up Luna strip club. Any more details you can provide there? I will be there in 10 days thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustIncognito  [View Original Post]
    I have stayed at the same hotel several times now in Medellin. They register the girl and call me upstairs in my room to get my approval to let her up and to let me know she is coming. A couple of times I was downstairs waiting, usually not. I always ask the front door to call me when they see 'he'are getting ready to leave, like in the elevators (cameras in halls / lobby / elevators) or as they approach the exit- My main hotel front desk person there usually calls and says, in Spanish: 'Just seeing if you need anything sir. ' If I am missing something I can have her stopped. If I don't answer they will stop her and check on me (so they say--its never happened). You get the idea..

  13. #28473
    Quote Originally Posted by PolloNegro  [View Original Post]
    Since traveling to Medellin. 1 Too many guys have a need to understand why girls participate in the activity of selling their body to earn money, I see it as a job and if you can not deliver on the job or deliver what you market, you should not be working or marketing. If you can not be on time, you deserve to loose money and customers. Too many gringos settle for subpar service as a result of making themselves believe that are steal receiving a good deal. I am a contract type of guy and if you can not meet the terms of our agreement, then why should I pay you or honor your "Cita?" I don't, and I don't have to see you again, there are far too many girls in Medellin to be negotiating with one, if she flakes, move on, trust me, it does not get better and behavior is habitual. 2. If you bring the right gifts, you can barter many items for sex, do no allow anyone on this board to tell you different. For example: you want to get some exciting sex and only pay cab fee, bring a girl a somewhat new Samsung or Iphone, and it does not have to be up to date, it just has to look new and function well, many of the girls in Centro and Vera Cruz will definitely trade sex for nearly new J3- J5 or J7 phone, it does not have to be the flagship Galaxy S5-S9's, I have done it many times. 3. Last but not least, unless I am the luckiest monger on this side of the planet, the best place and deals to monger are in Centro. If you listen to any on this board that says different, they are bold face lying, scared, or acted out of character and revealed that they were targets of being robbed. I am in no way the biggest or baddest guy on the planet, but I did travel to Medellin 17 times last year..
    It's worth pointing out that a Samsung J3 used, goes for 100-200 k in Medellin. You're bartering a $60 phone for $30 pussy. And you're paying cab fare on top of that.

  14. #28472
    What are the best online sites and if you do list can you recommend some girls? Thanks!

  15. #28471
    Quote Originally Posted by PolloNegro  [View Original Post]
    Since traveling to Medellin. 1 Too many guys have a need to understand why girls participate in the activity of selling their body to earn money, I see it as a job and if you can not deliver on the job or deliver what you market, you should not be working or marketing. If you can not be on time, you deserve to loose money and customers. Too many gringos settle for subpar service as a result of making themselves believe that are steal receiving a good deal. I am a contract type of guy and if you can not meet the terms of our agreement, then why should I pay you or honor your "Cita?" I don't, and I don't have to see you again, there are far too many girls in Medellin to be negotiating with one, if she flakes, move on, trust me, it does not get better and behavior is habitual. 2. If you bring the right gifts, you can barter many items for sex, do no allow anyone on this board to tell you different. For example: you want to get some exciting sex and only pay cab fee, bring a girl a somewhat new Samsung or Iphone, and it does not have to be up to date, it just has to look new and function well, many of the girls in Centro and Vera Cruz will definitely trade sex for nearly new J3- J5 or J7 phone, it does not have to be the flagship Galaxy S5-S9's, I have done it many times. 3. Last but not least, unless I am the luckiest monger on this side of the planet, the best place and deals to monger are in Centro. If you listen to any on this board that says different, they are bold face lying, scared, or acted out of character and revealed that they were targets of being robbed. I am in no way the biggest or baddest guy on the planet, but I did travel to Medellin 17 times last year. I stayed in Centro each time, and not one time was I robbed, harmed, or afraid to go to Vera Cruz to pick up a girl to take back to my room..
    Haha. *Drops the mic and exits stage right*. Great post. Thanks for the info!

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