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  1. #25825
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Damn! Everyone saw you coming. I'm surprised someone didn't ask for one of your kidneys. The taxi from the airport is 65,000 pesos, just under $23. The bus from the airport, which stops just around the corner from Hotel Botero, is 9,500 pesos, about $3.

    Asking a Colombian what a normal tip is is like asking a plumber for advice on open heart surgery. It's not something they have any idea about.

    At the strip clubs you have to pay in advance. At some of the casas you also pay in advance. You pay after any time you bring a girl to your room.
    I wouldn't be to rough on this guy being the total rookie he is. He had a good time and his report should be of some value to newbies coming to Medellin.

  2. #25824
    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan216  [View Original Post]
    The next day I left that hotel and went to another one about a 10 minute cab ride away. It was $30 a night I think and it was fantastic. One of the best bed and breakfast places I had been to. I thought about just staying in the hotel but I remember everyone talked about a 2nd club here in the forms. New Life I think. So I went there in the morning and OMG it was everything I thought Colombia would be. The girls did a line up for me and about half of them were 10's. My jaw freaking dropped. I took a Russian girl to the back and the sex was not super passionate but still pretty good. Covered blowjob and sex. I popped quickly and gave the establishment 50 k pesos and tipped her 20 k pesos and she was really happy with 20 k pesos. I think the other guy who told me 50 k pesos was crazy. I managed to go two more times before my flight. On my 2nd time, I asked if the girls do BBBJ. The manager said he could bring in the girls and they could tell me. I picked another 10 out of the line up and asked her with my translator (I don't speak Spanish). She told me she would do BBBJ for 50 k pesos and BBFS for another 50 k pesos. I did the math real quick and was blown away. Around 50 bucks for BBFS with a freaking 10? I said yes and got a half hearted blowjob and not very passionate sex but from a 10 so I was fine with that. The third time they only had three girls but they were all 10's so I took them all (sorry to the guy who came in right after me, I think he had to wait). The sex again wasn't very passionate but good enough for me.
    Do you remember the name of the girl from New Life? Or what she looked like?

  3. #25823
    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan216  [View Original Post]
    I just came back from a short stop over in Colombia recently. I read a ton of advice from this form and decided to plan my trip on the information. I got to the city at night and took a cab alone (I think it was $40? You can split a cab ($10-$15?) with people or take a bus (a few bucks?) and it's way cheaper. I booked a hotel called Botero ($25). The hotel was not usable for sleeping (smelled of smoke, no blanket, pillows were bad. I wasn't there to sleep anyway. I went out to the park and scouted but only saw trans girls or possible trans girls. I found Maracaibo and decided to take that club for a spin because it is mentioned a lot here. I got introduced to the owner and asked where the bank was. I got lost and came back and the owner actually took me there himself. A girl sat down next to me and she looked okay and asked me if I wanted to buy her a drink. I bought her a drink and tried to see if she was going to be good in bed. I asked if she did BBBJ and she said yes and she would do anything I asked for I think $25 worth of pesos (I think it was 75 k pesos). I said yes and went to the back with her. She asked for the money up front and asked for me to buy her another drink. I forgot the rules that everyone tells you on this form and gave the money up front (my mistake) and bought her the 2nd drink. She sniffed some coke and got naked. Her breasts went all the way to the ground and she was chubby. She went from a 7 (I'the pay for this) to a 3 (would pass her up at a club if she threw herself at me). She then tried to put a condom on me. I told her she either gave me a BBBJ or my money back. She then threatened to call the cops. I threatened to tell the owner. She gave me 20 k pesos back and I was pissed. I told the owner and the owner went back there and spoke with her for a long long time then came to me and gave me 15 k back. I couldn't believe the quality of the girls and the service was this bad in Colombia. From what I read in the forums this place was a paradise..
    Damn! Everyone saw you coming. I'm surprised someone didn't ask for one of your kidneys. The taxi from the airport is 65,000 pesos, just under $23. The bus from the airport, which stops just around the corner from Hotel Botero, is 9,500 pesos, about $3.

    Asking a Colombian what a normal tip is is like asking a plumber for advice on open heart surgery. It's not something they have any idea about.

    At the strip clubs you have to pay in advance. At some of the casas you also pay in advance. You pay after any time you bring a girl to your room.

  4. #25822
    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan216  [View Original Post]
    I booked a hotel called Botero ($25). The hotel was not usable for sleeping (smelled of smoke, no blanket, pillows were bad. I wasn't there to sleep anyway. I went out to the park and scouted but only saw trans girls or possible trans girls. I found Maracaibo and decided to take that club for a spin because it is mentioned a lot here. I got introduced to the owner and asked where the bank was. I got lost and came back and the owner actually took me there himself. A girl sat down next to me and she looked okay and asked me if I wanted to buy her a drink. I bought her a drink and tried to see if she was going to be good in bed. I asked if she did BBBJ and she said yes and she would do anything I asked for I think $25 worth of pesos (I think it was 75 k pesos). I said yes and went to the back with her. She asked for the money up front and asked for me to buy her another drink. I forgot the rules that everyone tells you on this form and gave the money up front (my mistake) and bought her the 2nd drink. She sniffed some coke and got naked. Her breasts went all the way to the ground and she was chubby. She went from a 7 (I'the pay for this) to a 3 (would pass her up at a club if she threw herself at me). She then tried to put a condom on me. I told her she either gave me a BBBJ or my money back.
    Oh let's see. 1st I have stayed 4 times at the Botero for almost a month total, they don't allow smoking in the rooms, if you got a room that smelled like smoke you just should have asked for another room, and you should have asked for a blanket if you wanted one. I get them about 1/2 the time with out asking but it's not really cold enough to need one. The pillows have always seemed fine to me, but everybody's different.

    If you went to "the park", I assume you meant Parque Bolivar, yes they are TV's there, you should have gone behind Iglesia Vera Cruz or over to the Raudal block. Actually with no Spanish and 1st time there you should have avoided the street scene altogether. Or gone with some one who knew what's what.

    You have to pay up front with the strip clubs, no way around that. But you should have waited and watched the girls on stage and picked one out after you saw her naked. Or checked her out at the table little closer, 7 to a 3? LOL.

    And Maracaibo is a distant 3rd place for number of cuties, you should have gone down 2 doors to Barra Ejective or down to Conejitas (or caught a taxi to Fase II more likely).

    The place across the street was Yakusa, a low end Casa mostly useful due to how late they stay open, and the girls there are 45 k per 1/2 HR so a 50 k tip would be way too much. Plus you can take them across the street to your hotel which is nice, they do get the occasional cutie.

    (You can see a blanket and 4 pillows in this pic of mine at the Botero).
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  5. #25821
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelso1  [View Original Post]
    If you are now learning Spanish why would you consider Brazil as that is not a Spanish speaking country?

    That time of year myself I would choose the DR as the beaches are great there compared to Colombia in most areas.

    For mongering only than I would choose Colombia.
    Why worry too much about learning Spanish at all. I have been many places. As long as I have Google translate and moola, I am good. Its always been fascinating to me communicating with people who speak another language. It may get awkward sometimes, even funny at times, but we always find a way.

  6. #25820
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelso1  [View Original Post]
    If you are now learning Spanish why would you consider Brazil as that is not a Spanish speaking country?

    That time of year myself I would choose the DR as the beaches are great there compared to Colombia in most areas.

    For mongering only than I would choose Colombia.
    I asked myself the same question! But Rio was originally my 1st trip but went to Sosua instead. Now that I have 1 trip under my belt I have learnt a lot and can venture somewhere that maybe isn't suited for 1st timers??

  7. #25819
    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan216  [View Original Post]
    I just came back from a short stop over in Colombia recently. I read a ton of advice from this form and decided to plan my trip on the information. I got to the city at night and took a cab alone (I think it was $40? You can split a cab ($10-$15?) with people or take a bus (a few bucks?) and it's way cheaper. I booked a hotel called Botero ($25). The hotel was not usable for sleeping (smelled of smoke, no blanket, pillows were bad. I wasn't there to sleep anyway. I went out to the park and scouted but only saw trans girls or possible trans girls. I found Maracaibo and decided to take that club for a spin because it is mentioned a lot here. I got introduced to the owner and asked where the bank was. I got lost and came back and the owner actually took me there himself. A girl sat down next to me and she looked okay and asked me if I wanted to buy her a drink. I bought her a drink and tried to see if she was going to be good in bed. I asked if she did BBBJ and she said yes and she would do anything I asked for I think $25 worth of pesos (I think it was 75 k pesos). I said yes and went to the back with her. She asked for the money up front and asked for me to buy her another drink. I forgot the rules that everyone tells you on this form and gave the money up front (my mistake) and bought her the 2nd drink. She sniffed some coke and got naked. Her breasts went all the way to the ground and she was chubby. She went from a 7 (I'the pay for this) to a 3 (would pass her up at a club if she threw herself at me). She then tried to put a condom on me. I told her she either gave me a BBBJ or my money back. She then threatened to call the cops. I threatened to tell the owner. She gave me 20 k pesos back and I was pissed. I told the owner and the owner went back there and spoke with her for a long long time then came to me and gave me 15 k back. I couldn't believe the quality of the girls and the service was this bad in Colombia. From what I read in the forums this place was a paradise...
    Your to be commended for writing such a candid and straightforward report of your experiences in Medellin. It's a breath of fresh air compared to many of the reports. Hopefully with more research and an extensive reading of this board you will be better prepared for your next adventure here.

  8. #25818
    Quote Originally Posted by Gertsch700  [View Original Post]
    ......Colombia, DR or Brazil?
    No brainer. Brazil, hottest women, best service.

  9. #25817

    Dr.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gertsch700  [View Original Post]
    1st monger trip completed, learnt a lot but now want to start planning a 2nd trip for late 2018 early 2019, I am currently learning Spanish and committed to it.

    Colombia, DR or Brazil?
    If you are now learning Spanish why would you consider Brazil as that is not a Spanish speaking country?

    That time of year myself I would choose the DR as the beaches are great there compared to Colombia in most areas.

    For mongering only than I would choose Colombia.

  10. #25816

    Where do I go from here?

    1st monger trip completed, learnt a lot but now want to start planning a 2nd trip for late 2018 early 2019, I am currently learning Spanish and committed to it.

    Colombia, DR or Brazil?

  11. #25815
    I just came back from a short stop over in Colombia recently. I read a ton of advice from this form and decided to plan my trip on the information. I got to the city at night and took a cab alone (I think it was $40? You can split a cab ($10-$15?) with people or take a bus (a few bucks?) and it's way cheaper. I booked a hotel called Botero ($25). The hotel was not usable for sleeping (smelled of smoke, no blanket, pillows were bad. I wasn't there to sleep anyway. I went out to the park and scouted but only saw trans girls or possible trans girls. I found Maracaibo and decided to take that club for a spin because it is mentioned a lot here. I got introduced to the owner and asked where the bank was. I got lost and came back and the owner actually took me there himself. A girl sat down next to me and she looked okay and asked me if I wanted to buy her a drink. I bought her a drink and tried to see if she was going to be good in bed. I asked if she did BBBJ and she said yes and she would do anything I asked for I think $25 worth of pesos (I think it was 75 k pesos). I said yes and went to the back with her. She asked for the money up front and asked for me to buy her another drink. I forgot the rules that everyone tells you on this form and gave the money up front (my mistake) and bought her the 2nd drink. She sniffed some coke and got naked. Her breasts went all the way to the ground and she was chubby. She went from a 7 (I'the pay for this) to a 3 (would pass her up at a club if she threw herself at me). She then tried to put a condom on me. I told her she either gave me a BBBJ or my money back. She then threatened to call the cops. I threatened to tell the owner. She gave me 20 k pesos back and I was pissed. I told the owner and the owner went back there and spoke with her for a long long time then came to me and gave me 15 k back. I couldn't believe the quality of the girls and the service was this bad in Colombia. From what I read in the forums this place was a paradise.

    I went back to my hotel and told the person at the counter what happened. I asked him where his favorite place was and he pointed me across the street. He told me to go with a particular girl. The girl working the cash register was freaking hot as hell. She was a solid 10. It turns out she only worked the cash register and was clocking out too. I guess she was used to pull in the guys? I saw the other girls and they were 4's at best but I was desperate so I took the girl that the counter guy suggested. She was good in bed but didn't look that great. I gave her a 10 k tip and asked the counter guy what the normal tip was and he said 50 k, so I went back in and gave her another 40 k.

    The next day I left that hotel and went to another one about a 10 minute cab ride away. It was $30 a night I think and it was fantastic. One of the best bed and breakfast places I had been to. I thought about just staying in the hotel but I remember everyone talked about a 2nd club here in the forms. New Life I think. So I went there in the morning and OMG it was everything I thought Colombia would be. The girls did a line up for me and about half of them were 10's. My jaw freaking dropped. I took a Russian girl to the back and the sex was not super passionate but still pretty good. Covered blowjob and sex. I popped quickly and gave the establishment 50 k pesos and tipped her 20 k pesos and she was really happy with 20 k pesos. I think the other guy who told me 50 k pesos was crazy. I managed to go two more times before my flight. On my 2nd time, I asked if the girls do BBBJ. The manager said he could bring in the girls and they could tell me. I picked another 10 out of the line up and asked her with my translator (I don't speak Spanish). She told me she would do BBBJ for 50 k pesos and BBFS for another 50 k pesos. I did the math real quick and was blown away. Around 50 bucks for BBFS with a freaking 10? I said yes and got a half hearted blowjob and not very passionate sex but from a 10 so I was fine with that. The third time they only had three girls but they were all 10's so I took them all (sorry to the guy who came in right after me, I think he had to wait). The sex again wasn't very passionate but good enough for me.

    If I had to do it all over again, I would have done more research and got a better hotel at the start and explored more than two clubs. I also would have figured out the correct tip to pay as well as what the prices should be. I was flying blind with the prices and may have caused a temporary uptick in prices for the rest of you guys. Sorry guys, but yeah Colombia has my vote of approval.

  12. #25814
    The story mentions an incident in La Candelaria. That is a little close to our stomping grounds. The normal rules apply, we have to avoid isolated locations because there is safety in numbers.

    I've learned this is a good practice in other urban areas too. Back in the mid 90's when Los Angeles gang activity bled over to the west side I was minding my own business walking to meet friends at a sushi bar off Main Street in Venice. Without thinking I glanced at a couple of guys hanging on a side street corner smoking a blunt. One of them yelled at me "what's up homeboy, what's up! I waved and kept moving because I was running late. They started walking toward me and yelling "who are you with fool? They peeled off when what I thought was a random car flashed a spotlight on us. When I told my friends what happened they told me not to cut down side streets at night south of the Santa Monica border in Venice at night. They explained there was more gang activity lately and it wasn't safe. It's a mistake I wouldn't have normally made but I was in a hurry to not be late so I parked off the beaten path and took a shortcut. I hope I learn from my mistakes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf662  [View Original Post]
    I'd say just stay out of that neighborhood and you should be fine, it's a few kilometers west of Laurales anyway, and it will be gang on gang violence, not gang on tourists. They try to stay away from killing tourists because it really brings down the heat, the cops will actually try and solve the case. (although I was pleasantly surprised last week when the MED police actually found and arrested the guy who murdered my Conejitas sweetie last Sept).

    Over all average wise you are safer as a US tourist in Colombia then you are while in the US.

    US overall homicide rate is 4.8 per 100,000, the Colombian rate 26.5 per 100,000 for Colombians.

  13. #25813
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf662  [View Original Post]
    I'd say just stay out of that neighborhood and you should be fine, it's a few kilometers west of Laurales anyway, and it will be gang on gang violence, not gang on tourists. They try to stay away from killing tourists because it really brings down the heat, the cops will actually try and solve the case. (although I was pleasantly surprised last week when the MED police actually found and arrested the guy who murdered my Conejitas sweetie last Sept).

    Over all average wise you are safer as a US tourist in Colombia then you are while in the US.

    US overall homicide rate is 4.8 per 100,000, the Colombian rate 26.5 per 100,000 for Colombians.

    US tourist rate over 5 years in Colombia was 19 killed in 5 years per State Dept figures with around 400,000 visitors a year.

    Gives a rate of around point 95 per 100,000.

    https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...tatistics.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Colombia#Visitors.
    A US tourist probably spends two weeks in Colombia and 50 weeks in USA, adjusted for that the murder rate will change to a more accurate number, approx. 24.

  14. #25812
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueChange  [View Original Post]
    Hey, I recall Loutron being the raining king of talent. Then a couple years back they moved. Then energy basically had the same line up. On par. My question is. Today currently how is Loutron? Am I really missing out that much by not going or is sticking with energy just as fine.

    I just dislike how far and inconvenient it is to drive up to loutron. What's it like at the moment?
    Well I haven't been to Loutron but at twice as expensive I doubt the girls are twice as hot as Energy.

  15. #25811
    Quote Originally Posted by TroyBoy  [View Original Post]
    I am a little surprised nothing has been mentioned on this board concerning the mounting tension / violence that is growing between gangs themselves and with police in the western sector of Medellin. (San Javier) I have very little info to offer, but I do know some of my amigas in Robledo are getting stressed out concerning this.

    Does anyone here have any info on the subject??? I will be arriving in 2 weeks for an extended stay in Laureles. I see in this report that something has gone down in UNICENTRO (very near where I will be); so things may be spilling over into other sectors of Medellin.

    https://thebogotapost.com/2018/04/28...e-in-medellin/
    I'd say just stay out of that neighborhood and you should be fine, it's a few kilometers west of Laurales anyway, and it will be gang on gang violence, not gang on tourists. They try to stay away from killing tourists because it really brings down the heat, the cops will actually try and solve the case. (although I was pleasantly surprised last week when the MED police actually found and arrested the guy who murdered my Conejitas sweetie last Sept).

    Over all average wise you are safer as a US tourist in Colombia then you are while in the US.

    US overall homicide rate is 4.8 per 100,000, the Colombian rate 26.5 per 100,000 for Colombians.

    US tourist rate over 5 years in Colombia was 19 killed in 5 years per State Dept figures with around 400,000 visitors a year.

    Gives a rate of around point 95 per 100,000.

    https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...tatistics.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Colombia#Visitors.

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