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  1. #25440

    Tipping

    Quote Originally Posted by BayBoy  [View Original Post]
    Tipping is not required in Colombia, whether in a restaurant or any other venue. That's a US thing.
    I had a bit of a realization after a trip to Fase II. The 200 k for the habitación is basically just that nada más. The lady gets little. I have vowed on my next trips to include a 50 k propinita to the lady.

    It's just me.

    Comment from another about post that says the ladies don't remember. They do. Some anyway. ON my first visit to Fase II I pulled Giselle. Young blond. Fake blond but, cute. Next 2 times I got waylaid by a brunette spinner that did great things for me an my 4th trip, Giselle. From my first trip. Found me and chatted me up all night. I bought her some many drinks that when it came time to pay for the habitación, I didn't have enough for the habitación so, the generous tip afterward wouldn't have happened. Oh well, a fun night tipping dancers and buying and playing with Giselle on the floor.

  2. #25439
    Quote Originally Posted by RacShack  [View Original Post]
    I bet a lot (if not everyone) does not know the meaning of tips =To Insure Proper Service / to each their own I've always said.
    This is bull, and if it were true, it would be 'teps. ' You would give extra money, in theory, to ensure proper or prompt service.

    http://www.word-detective.com/2011/03/tip/

  3. #25438
    So, people from the US routinely tip 15-20% in restaurants. Here in Spain, people routinely tip ... (wait for it!) ... nothing in restaurants. Does that mean that Spaniards lack empathy as compared to people from the US? In Argentina, the typical restaurant tip is 7-10%. From this, do we conclude that Argentineans have approximately half as much empathy as people from the US? In Japan, if one attempts to tip in a restaurant, the waiter will run out into the street and hand the money back. Do we conclude that Japanese waiters have an infinite amount of empathy?

    In the US, it is necessary to tip waiters because in most jurisdictions, they do not make minimum wage. Of course, in Seattle they make $15 an hour and people from the US still tip them 15-20%. What kind of sense does that make? In Spain, waiters make a decent salary, so locals do not tip them.

    Now, hookers set their own prices in most cases. One would assume that they set their prices at a level that allows them to earn what they feel they need to earn. I worked damn hard for my money, and fucking is not that tough of a job. So shouldn't they have empathy for me and give me good service anyway, once we have agreed on a price that we obviously both thought was fair? People from the US have their heads way up their asses on this whole tipping thing, and it is out of control. Australians have it right. Charge a fair price, pay a decent wage, and forget all this nonsense about tipping.

    I am all for following local customs, and I doubt very much that colombianos are tipping 20 k in a 30 k casa. When I was in Argentina, I never tipped in the privados or in the clubs, and I was still quite popular. My regular chicas who came to my house knew what they were getting, and knew better than to ask for more, or for taxi money. I kept my eye on inflation and gave them regular raises such that the amount of money I gave them maintained its purchasing power.

    So, while I respect the point of view expressed by, for example, LV monger (whose handle indicates he may be from the tipping capital of the western hemisphere), I don't buy #s 2 and 4 in particular, and also do not think that what is customary in the US needs to be extrapolated to other countries and cultures whose tipping procedures are much less pervasive or extreme. Another thing I don't understand is tipping a hooker to perform a service she would rather not perform. Now, in the case of BBBJ, it is just a question of them trying to get extra for something they do all the time. But if a chica really doesn't like anal or CIM, and you tip her extra to do it, I think that is a power trip.

  4. #25437

    Tipping

    Tipping is not required in Colombia, whether in a restaurant or any other venue. That's a US thing.

  5. #25436

    Right on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    I'm sure your system works.

    And you get to save a few bucks, and get to be a Dickhead, LOL.

    I'm more with Wolf662, I negotiate x, I pay x, however, I tip for stellar attitude and performance, and it pays in dividends upon my return.

    Plus it makes me feel good.

    Of course if a girl performs just normally, goes thru the motions, she gets paid the negotiated x amount.

    If she then asks for a tip, I explain that a tip is to be earned, and we'll see next time.

    Motivation.

    I know some guys are cold hearted mongers and wouldn't tip no matter what or how a girl performed, and that's fine if that's their deal.

    It's not mine.

    Cheers.
    I bet a lot (if not everyone) does not know the meaning of tips =To Insure Proper Service / to each their own I've always said.

  6. #25435
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I buy that it makes you feel good. As far as it giving you any other advantage is pure assumption. Now if you could point to a person that you were not giving tips to then you started giving a tip later and the service changed for the better or a person that you were giving tips and stopped and the service got worse, then you may have an argument. But when you start out giving tips and next time attribute that to receiving better service doesn't hold water. There could have been one of many reasons that you got better sevice, none of which may have been you giving a tip last time.

    To tell you the truth, I go through so many women that I have fucked up and fucked the same person twice by accident because I didn't remember them. If you think a hooker that goes through way more guys is going to remember your extra 20 K then keep hope alive.
    My daddy taught me you always tip for good service.

  7. #25434
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    I'm more with Wolf662, I negotiate x, I pay x, however, I tip for stellar attitude and performance, and it pays in dividends upon my return.

    Plus it makes me feel good.
    I buy that it makes you feel good. As far as it giving you any other advantage is pure assumption. Now if you could point to a person that you were not giving tips to then you started giving a tip later and the service changed for the better or a person that you were giving tips and stopped and the service got worse, then you may have an argument. But when you start out giving tips and next time attribute that to receiving better service doesn't hold water. There could have been one of many reasons that you got better sevice, none of which may have been you giving a tip last time.

    To tell you the truth, I go through so many women that I have fucked up and fucked the same person twice by accident because I didn't remember them. If you think a hooker that goes through way more guys is going to remember your extra 20 K then keep hope alive.

  8. #25433
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    So the next time are you negotiating 30 again? Because now you got her expecting 50. How do you know she wouldn't have the same enthusiasm had you not given her another 20? Maybe she is just happy to see you as a repeat customer regardless. It is funny how guys attribute a chick treating them well the next time to them giving them more money the first time. I say it is a figment of their imagination. Meanwhile I am over here blocking chicks that I have only given the agreed upon amount because they are hounding me about when they can see me again.
    Yep, it's all a figment of the imagination, LOL.

    There is no joy or enthusiasm on either end for giving a tip to show appreciation.

    Have you ever put yourself in their place? Something called empathy.

    When you see they are good people and do a great job, just maybe rewarding them is something, pardon the word, but, nice, LOL.

    On second thought, disregard all that.

    Get back to blocking girls, LOL.

  9. #25432
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf662  [View Original Post]
    Watch the 30 min video on this page for a primer, the top of the line places are Loutron Spa, Las Islas strip club, Fase Dos strip club, Energy massage and then down the list a bit to Luna Lunera strip club, San Diego strip club and New Life brothel.

    https://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/
    Thanks! The clip was very helpful.

  10. #25431
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Wolff662, you strike me as being not only a happy person but also as human, unlike your critics on this board. How miserable must someone be who would get good service from a poor chica and cannot afford to give her a US $7. 00 tip!
    I agree!

    Happy times brotha!

  11. #25430
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Maybe you should just give her 7 dollars without having sex with her. She's a poor barriio girl and needs your help either way. And that way it doesn't screw up prices.

    Unfortunately I believe pricing inflation due to tourists is an inevitability.
    The gringo invasion began many moons ago, the prices have not skyrocketed.

    Many good deals to be had, especially if you know what you're doing.

  12. #25429
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    Call me crazy but when I go to the trouble of negotiating a price, I want that to be the price. If that makes me a dickhead, I am fine with that. Fools and their money are soon parted, of course, whereas I have toured the world quite effectively using my basic negotiating strategy of if we agree on X, it is X, y punto.
    I'm sure your system works.

    And you get to save a few bucks, and get to be a Dickhead, LOL.

    I'm more with Wolf662, I negotiate x, I pay x, however, I tip for stellar attitude and performance, and it pays in dividends upon my return.

    Plus it makes me feel good.

    Of course if a girl performs just normally, goes thru the motions, she gets paid the negotiated x amount.

    If she then asks for a tip, I explain that a tip is to be earned, and we'll see next time.

    Motivation.

    I know some guys are cold hearted mongers and wouldn't tip no matter what or how a girl performed, and that's fine if that's their deal.

    It's not mine.

    Cheers.

  13. #25428
    Quote Originally Posted by LVMonger  [View Original Post]
    Over 45 years of mongering, I've put some thought to this topic of "overpaying". Since the end of the V'Nam war, I've seen a lot of good places come and go, mostly do to wealthy gringos who destroy.

    The foreign economy and cause a nightmare situation for the local guys.

    I barter hard to get the same prices as locals for anything I buy. I'm more than happy to walk away from any deal (pussy or street food) if I think I'm being overcharged because I'm a foreigner.

    I resent that and an unwilling to mess up the existing economy.

    On the other hand, in my mind, tipping is a whole different matter. It is separate from the original transaction as the price had already been established and I feel I had won out. If I feel I've had exceptionally.

    Great service or am just feeling generous that day, I usually give a good tip. I feel really good about that as I have been very blessed in my life and tossing an extra $5 or 10 their way is no BFD to me at all.

    This system has these benefits:

    1) The negotiated price is fair and reasonable. I'm not paying more because I'm a gringo, farang, foreigner bule or whatever. It doesn't hurt the local guy and the girl expects to continue to agree to that amount in the future.

    2) The tip system incentivises the girl to perform well and to please. I don't mind at all if I'm getting extra good service because she hope to get a tip. That is a "beautiful thing" as long as it is not negotiated.

    3) The next time a fellow like me comes along, that young lady will try extra hard for him. This sets a good precedence for my fellow countrymen.

    4) It rewards good behavior. Better that the girl delivers well than becomes a shrewd negotiator.

    5) It helps to keep the buyer in control. The tip happens after the deed thus she gets no extra benefits until the end when the client is fully satisfied.

    If we all used this system, we'd have much better experiences in these "lands of opportunity".
    Experience talks!

    My experience tells me the same!

    Thanks!

  14. #25427
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    And besides that, hasn't Wolf said that half those chicks are drug addicts anyway? You act like you are contributing to her college fund. The dopeman thanks you for your generous contribution.
    No I have not said. As far as I can tell none of them I have met are unless you count smoking weed. Some of the strippers I have met have been coke heads but the street girls I have hung out with have been bright eyed and bushy tailed. I have experience in the US with opiate addicts, crack heads, meth users, zanex queens, etc, I know the signs.

  15. #25426
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Wolff662, you strike me as being not only a happy person but also as human, unlike your critics on this board. How miserable must someone be who would get good service from a poor chica and cannot afford to give her a US $7. 00 tip!
    It is amazing how the point can just fly over people's heads. It has nothing to do with some made up happiness level or not being able to afford something. As the man said, if them being so poor was such a big issue to you, you would go around handing out money without fucking them. But I guess they have not fallen to that level of poordom yet. And besides that, hasn't Wolf said that half those chicks are drug addicts anyway? You act like you are contributing to her college fund. The dopeman thanks you for your generous contribution.

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