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  1. #22908
    Quote Originally Posted by ElMechanico  [View Original Post]
    If you LIVE in that 'Home' & rent that 'Home' to someone else, your point is valid. Otherwise, you are renting a 'house' to someone else. ...
    Thanks for that explanation, El Mechanico. I got tired of trying to have a conversation with an imbecile. I don't understand JjBee62's reason for being on this site, other than to possibly stroke his ego. I haven't seen a post from him that offers helpful advice, but many attempts to criticize others. His "beautiful model" roommate is probably a centerfold photo from Playboy. I had a few of those roommates when I was a young guy in the military. I question whether he is even in Medellin. He pretends to know details about strip clubs, but has been proven wrong by different people on this site.

    Tomorrow, I will arrive in Medellin, and will be staying in an apartment. Initially I found the apartment in airbnb, but I have been there so many times that now I deal directly with the owner. I haven't had any problem in the apartment building no matter who visits me or how long they stay.

  2. #22907

    Newbie question

    If you get pissed off easily and hate answering questions, please stop reading now.

    I am brand new on the subject of Colombia. I have been as far south as Panama. Can somebody give a quick run down on how to get initiated. I am looking for lower prices and better quality than I can get in USA. I want to be knee deep in 9's and 10's for about 7 days in a nice hotel room. I can speak some Spanish. I do not want any risk of getting abducted, beaten, or killed. My budget is around $1500 for food, hotel, and chicas.

    Which city in Colombia would you recommend for a first timer? Any other advice?

  3. #22906
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Back to the OP on the subject. The poster asked which strip clubs have the wildest and hottest shows. If you're looking for a wild and hot stage show, Colombia is probably not your first choice. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Colombian strip clubs are mostly just casas where you can have a few drinks while you choose a girl.

    Nothing wrong with that, but for the guy looking for a hot and wild stage show, disappointment is coming.
    I have seen many live sex shows, shaving cream show and lesbian acts at various centro strip clubs including sandiego.

  4. #22905
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    That's great advice. If you're here to monger, choose a place close to the action where mongering is expected. You'll have a lot fewer problems. However, if you pick a place away from the action with a 24 hour porteria, and try to treat it like a love motel, you're going to have issues.
    The auto spell correction on this website keeps changing the spelling. The apartment building which is owned by mongers is across the street from the Spanish named version of Mediterranean Hotel. The building is almost on the corner of Calle 41 A and Carrera 70.

  5. #22904
    Quote Originally Posted by Gagoo  [View Original Post]
    I have 55 Airbnb stays. Almost half of those are in Colombia. So far none of them had a problem with bringing a woman in. When I stay in Medellin, only one of the places had a doorman. But every apartment in the building is owned by mongers. My friend owns two apartments in that building, his monger friend owns 5 or 6 apartments, and I hear stories about the other mongers that own apartments there. If there is no doorman, there is "no problem" for sure. The building that is owned by mongers is across the street from Hotel Mediterrneo. There is absolutely no shame for bringing a girl back with you in that apartment building, even though that building has a front desk staff. If you want no shame or problems with Airbnb look for places with no doormen.
    That's great advice. If you're here to monger, choose a place close to the action where mongering is expected. You'll have a lot fewer problems. However, if you pick a place away from the action with a 24 hour porteria, and try to treat it like a love motel, you're going to have issues.

  6. #22903
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You are losing focus. This is International Sex Guide, not CulturalExchange punto com. People come here to find out about getting laid, not to sharpen their knowledge of other countries.

    I would assert that most of the world has a very narrow education. I was talking online to a chick in Bogota last night. I told her I was from Atlanta. Since she had never heard of it she asked what time it was there. When I gave her the time she said morning or night. Any geographically inclined person would have already known the USA is right north of Colombia so obviously it would be the same time of day. But why the hell would she know that if she has never needed to know that?

    Even me with an MBA in International Business focusing on Brazil and Latin America could not tell you a damn thing about Paraguay and Bolivia simply because I have never needed to know. If something were to pique my interest in those places (such as Pablo Escobar does Colombia for many foreigners) then I would do research and find out more. But as of now I have a very narrow education as far as those places are concerned. You got to start somewhere, and you can't knock someone for not knowing something or not being as passionate about something as you are.

    Even my last semester of grad school studying in France I had a classmate there with me who only wanted to party. He didn't want to learn anything about the French culture or do any sightseeing. He said he would worry about shit like that when he got married and had a family.
    You're right. Most of the guys who come here are looking for someone to take them by the hand, count out the money for them and help guide their dick into the hole of their choice. They read 3 posts on the forum, then say "I looked, but can't find any information. Please help me. " They get here and complain nobody speaks English, eat at McDonald's and [CodeWord140] and moan that Medellin isn't like PC, or Rio, or wherever else they've been. And everybody who has to put up with them is left with a bad impression.

    And slowly Medellin loses its appeal.

    I don't know much about Paraguay either, because I have no plans to go there. If that changes, I will know a lot about Paraguay before my passport is stamped. There is no excuse to not know. In the palm of your hand is access to a thousand libraries of information about Colombia, or any other country.

    I'm not knocking anyone for not being passionate about a place. I'm knocking people who choose ignorance over knowledge and then brag that ignorance is better.

  7. #22902

    Airbnb

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    There's a third possibility. Maybe you don't understand. I'll try to use small words.

    If you own a home and you rent that home to another person, they are a guest in your home. If you live in a different home, they are still a guest in your home. If you live in another city or another country, they are still a guest in your home. No matter how many homes you own, each one is your home and each person staying in each home is a guest in your home.

    Are you still with me?

    Most AirBnB hosts own only a few rental properties. Many live nearby, others are renting properties that they inherited from family members. Many others are just faceless investors. No matter what their connection to the property, they have an interest in what goes on there. What happens there can affect their income. It can affect their reputation. It can affect their friendships.

    Because guest behavior can affect the owner, the owner has rules. Some have lots of rules. Some have few rules. Some have rules that aren't written because they don't think anyone will break those rules. Their home, their rules, their rights.

    Those rules don't disappear because the owner is 1000 miles away. Those rules don't change when the owner is sleeping, or during a full moon. Those rules the guest is expected to respect.

    Have I lost you yet?

    A person with some sense should question their own behavior. You should ask yourself "how will other people feel about my activities?" Most of us do this. We don't pick up a prostitute and bring her home for Christmas dinner. We know that certain behavior needs to be kept from the eyes of friends and family.

    Why do people, when they travel to another country, suddenly assume that all the hidden behavior is now perfectly okay? Why is the AirBnB host a bad person because they won't allow things that you won't allow in your own home?

    Colombia (and many other places) is a great country. You can have a great time. Beautiful places, beautiful women and the prices are very reasonable. You can have a great time and still treat the people who live here with respect.

    If each monger who came to Colombia showed respect for the people there wouldn't be a "say no to sex tourism" campaign, there would be a lot less issues and everyone would have a better time.
    I have 55 Airbnb stays. Almost half of those are in Colombia. So far none of them had a problem with bringing a woman in. When I stay in Medellin, only one of the places had a doorman. But every apartment in the building is owned by mongers. My friend owns two apartments in that building, his monger friend owns 5 or 6 apartments, and I hear stories about the other mongers that own apartments there. If there is no doorman, there is "no problem" for sure. The building that is owned by mongers is across the street from Hotel Mediterrneo. There is absolutely no shame for bringing a girl back with you in that apartment building, even though that building has a front desk staff. If you want no shame or problems with Airbnb look for places with no doormen.

  8. #22901

    Beer store

    So it looks like the Beer Store by parque Lleras has fully embraced hookers. There are at least three of them in there after 10 PM. It's not a big venue but I haven't seen them sit around so clearly before. The usual. They don't approach you. Just sit near you.

  9. #22900
    Quote Originally Posted by StinkySquid  [View Original Post]
    So tomorrow I have another one from photoprepagos planned for the two remaining days I have here. We will see how that goes. There is always the risk they are cute on the messaging and get mechanical when in person. That chemistry again. I hope it will work out. I had good experiences with that scheme.
    For chemistry and TLN I would give the Centro strip clubs another chance (sounds like you didn't make it to them anyway) With a Prepago it is going to be very hit or miss if you get a good one, could be old or touched up pics or just a girl who is very photogenic but not as hot in person. Plus she can be a wacko or a snow queen.

    At the strip clubs you'll be able to sit and drink with a few different girls and find one that floats your boat. I found one in Conejitas who is still my fav in MED, we WhatsApp all the time and I'll see her next time I am there, she is always happy and sweet and GFE with me, plus knockout gorgeous to me.

    Try:

    Conejitas Show Bar.

    CL. 53 #51-41 (NW across street from Plaza Botero).

    And.

    Barra Ejecutiva.

    Calle 53 #48-20.

    If you find nothing at 1st wait or come back, new girls showing up all the time.

  10. #22899
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    In this thread, you may have a point. But as useful as this thread is, it represents a tiny portion of the people, and too many of the posters have a very narrow education.
    You are losing focus. This is International Sex Guide, not CulturalExchange punto com. People come here to find out about getting laid, not to sharpen their knowledge of other countries.

    I would assert that most of the world has a very narrow education. I was talking online to a chick in Bogota last night. I told her I was from Atlanta. Since she had never heard of it she asked what time it was there. When I gave her the time she said morning or night. Any geographically inclined person would have already known the USA is right north of Colombia so obviously it would be the same time of day. But why the hell would she know that if she has never needed to know that?

    Even me with an MBA in International Business focusing on Brazil and Latin America could not tell you a damn thing about Paraguay and Bolivia simply because I have never needed to know. If something were to pique my interest in those places (such as Pablo Escobar does Colombia for many foreigners) then I would do research and find out more. But as of now I have a very narrow education as far as those places are concerned. You got to start somewhere, and you can't knock someone for not knowing something or not being as passionate about something as you are.

    Even my last semester of grad school studying in France I had a classmate there with me who only wanted to party. He didn't want to learn anything about the French culture or do any sightseeing. He said he would worry about shit like that when he got married and had a family.

  11. #22898
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    The guy has a valid point. What does everyone in this thread know about Suriname or Paraguay? They didn't have a Pablo Escobar. Something has to put a place on the map.
    In this thread, you may have a point. But as useful as this thread is, it represents a tiny portion of the people, and too many of the posters have a very narrow education. When Colombia first popped up on my radar, I was unaware of the prostitution here. I knew about the cocaine and Escobar, but nothing about prostitution. Most of what I already knew had nothing to do with drugs, Escobar or prostitutes.

    As I started researching I became aware of the seedier side. Although my drug days are long behind me, I'm interested in the occasional paid entertainment. I also learned about other aspects of Colombia. My friends here are all college educated, most have traveled throughout the country and they love their country.

    Instead of the best place for a BBBJ I've been learning about the best cazuela, mondongo and arepas. Instead of cocaine and weed, I've been experimenting with different tropical fruits. Most of my conversations deal with modeling, photography, fashion and video production, not El Centro glue sniffers.

    If the only thing a person knows about Colombia is Escobar, cocaine and prepagos, they don't know anything about Colombia.

  12. #22897
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    Colombia is best known for Pablo Escobar, cocaine, drugs and prostitutes. If she had no clue about that I find it pretty hilarious how out of touch with reality she has to be.

    And that Colombia would be a "good catholic country", lmfao. That person knows nothing about Colombia.
    You need to qualify your statement. Add "by American idiots who know nothing. " Your opening statement should read "Colombia is best known for Pablo Escobar, cocaine, drugs and prostitutes by American idiots who know nothing. ".

    I don't know much about Colombia. I've only been living here less than 3 months. Most of my Colombian friends are under 30, so they still probably have things to learn about Colombia.

    During the past 80 days I haven't seen any cocaine and nobody I know has mentioned cocaine or other drugs. I've walked past a few people smoking weed and catch a whiff of it from time to time, but it hasn't been offered in any way. One of my friends has mentioned Pablo Escobar a few times, in pointing out empty houses that supposedly once belonged to Escobar assiciates. It's never been a real conversation topic.

    As for prostitutes, I've seen a few, professionally and while out and about. I probably average seeing 500 to 1000 people per day (Metro, Ciclovia, malls). So between 40,000 and 80,000 people and perhaps 20 prostitutes. Several I just assumed they were prostitutes, with no real indication. During the same time I've been in about 30 taxis, 10 buses and 20 Ubers. From my experience Colombia is better known for paid transport drivers than prostitutes.

    I have learned a few things about Colombia. It's a very Catholic country. Most buses and taxis have either a rosary, or a statue of a saint. Some have several. There's a Catholic shrine just south of CC Santa Fe. I've seen several drivers cross themselves as they pass it, and it's packed on Saturday evenings, Sundays and holidays. Friends have pointed out a few other places which are significant to the local Catholics as well. Speaking of holidays, of the 20 national holidays observed in Colombia, 11 of them are Catholic holidays.

    Another thing I've learned is that many Colombians are sick of stupid gringos obsessing over Pablo Escobar. Last I checked he's still dead. They've moved on, maybe it's time you did too.

    I've also learned that the Colombians around me have no use for drugs or prostitutes and they really wish uneducated US trailer trash would begin to appreciate the many other things Colombia has to offer.

    Most Colombians know about prostitution, just like most Americans. Most know about drugs and Escobar. However, just like most Americans, they don't appreciate people bringing drugs or prostitutes into their lives.

    Perhaps you need to learn a little more about Colombia.

  13. #22896
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    More than insulting for Colombia, your words qualify the poster and his level of knowledge about Colombia. Probably just from Fox News or some TV serials. Embarrassing to say the least.
    The guy has a valid point. What does everyone in this thread know about Suriname or Paraguay? They didn't have a Pablo Escobar. Something has to put a place on the map.

  14. #22895

    Ignorance. We like it like that, so there isn't much competition

    I live in TX 9 months, and run a top dollar consultancy from home. So can't quite qualify myself as loser.

    And, I spend 3 months out a year in Medellin, for business and pleasure.

    Currently I find it as a very safe city and so does many of my gringo friends who bought properties here. We just avoid walking in the dark in bad part of city and be vigilant. And its true for any big US cities like Chicago or Baltimore.

    We don't do anything illegal and lead a healthy life.

    People of Colombia have been very welcoming and nice to us. And I love the weather in MDE.

    But we like the bad rep from Pablo's era, or the bad rep from Netflix movie Narcos, LOL. So it stays less crowded.

    My 2 cents.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    Colombia is best known for Pablo Escobar, cocaine, drugs and prostitutes. If she had no clue about that I find it pretty hilarious how out of touch with reality she has to be.

    And that Colombia would be a "good catholic country", lmfao. That person knows nothing about Colombia.

  15. #22894
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    Colombia is best known for Pablo Escobar, cocaine, drugs and prostitutes. If she had no clue about that I find it pretty hilarious how out of touch with reality she has to be.
    And that Colombia would be a "good catholic country", lmfao. That person knows nothing about Colombia.
    More than insulting for Colombia, your words qualify the poster and his level of knowledge about Colombia. Probably just from Fox News or some TV serials. Embarrassing to say the least.

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