Medellin Reports

[Balboa]

If each monger who came to Colombia showed respect for the people there wouldn't be a "say no to sex tourism" campaign, there would be a lot less issues and everyone would have a better time.

I'm with you JjB, common sense really. The monger world, however, has it's share of guys who just don't get it, or just don't give a flip.

Debating this topic is like beating your head against the wall.

So I don't.

[Stinky Squid]

I lined up two dates tomorrow. Both agreed to 150 k. One at 10 am and one at 1 pm. I only fucked up by getting a hotel room this time but I will see how they react.

So I guess 150 k is totally normal pricing. I always thought 200 k was the new price.

I think 200 k is the Bogota price and the Medellin price is a bit lower.

[Stinky Squid]

So I walked out at around 9 pm and el Centro was still fairly well frequented by regular people. So I didn't feel very unsafe. When I came back at around 11 it was all pretty dead and only weird people, the kind of situation where you are happy to see the garbage man and the road construction crew. The majority of these shady people aren't up to mug you either. I think NYC in the early 90's was worse than this. I think people who come from USA and Europe are just not used to the atmosphere in Centro. But the other thing is, there is not much point to walk around in Centro after 10 pm or so, because even the street walker scene is dying out by that time. It seems to be more of a day scene, especially that weird sexual marketplace around the parks is finished after nightfall.

I was about an hour and a half in Fase Dos. So they do have the dance shows beginning at 10 pm and at least every half hour. At 9 pm it was still almost nobody there. Chicas hanging out and the ugly ones approaching me and sitting down. I decline politely. I wasn't there to try a quickie, I just wanted to see if I get into the mood. But I didn't. I didn't really like most of the chicas. I guess I am spoiled. But again this artificial mechanical fake attitude is something I am just allergic to. Then when the waiter sent me away from the table at the dance thing because I had only a beer and not some expensive liquor shit, I was done with the place and left. The two dance shows I saw was by the two ugly ones (in my eyes).

So I went out and to Luna Lunera to see how that compares. Luna Lunera has a different seating arrangement and it is a bit more like a "casa" where the chicas introduce themselves fairly quickly without pressuring you (like the ugly ones always do, sitting down and striking up a conversation). It was now well after 10 pm getting on 11 pm and I was the only guy there. Initially the chicas had some fun watching two bigger older ones do the pole dance thing. Later on they kind of went on break, of course because I didn't show much interest.

In my view, the only ones interesting are the quiet ones in the background. May be they are new, younger, and prettier. That was the same in Fase Dos and Luna Lunera. I didn't find the Fase Dos chicas much better looking.

After about an hour there I went back to centro to catch the 11 pm situation. I intended to pick some girl out from Conejitas because I wanted to fill my bed. But then I turned on my heels thinking that the Conejitas thing has that hotel, so its probably not a thing to check them out entirely. Also, I had picked up a card of a chica place closer to my Hotel. You know, those little business cards they hand out to single guys strolling the streets. That one was at Calle 58,45 D104. I wanted to go there and get my chick for the night. Alas, when I located the address, there was nothing. Disappointment with the card.

So I walked back to my Hotel. Which reminds me: the weird Centro place is actually limited. When you go east of Carreira 40 or so, it becomes quite peaceful neighborhoods not unlike you can find them in Berlin Charlottenburg for example. And also, as the taxi drivers raced to and fro Centro and Fase Dos and Luna Luneira, there was all this deadness on the streets. I guess that all still counts as centro. But anyway, that Hotel Kong is actually in a decent neighborhood in waling distance of the Centro places.

Now back alone in my hotel room with a neighbor room producing loud music, I felt the urge to fill my bed. And I ran down my list from Photoprepagos. Co. I had made some contacts with some of the girls with whom I chatted as if they were friends or lovers. So that was nice. Unfortunately two of them were offline and the third was sick so she couldn't come over. She sounded so nice as if we had some chemistry. Anyway, in my determination I ran down the list, very many do not respond, or not respond on time. Until I found a certain Paola, 18 years, with no face shown but nice long hair looking good. I whatsapped her and in 10 minutes she was here. When I opened the door I got this shock feeling, like when it's not what was on the package. And we had zero chemistry. She started re-negotiating the time and money, I held firm, but then I offered her an out. Pay her taxi and some extra for time to call it quits. I didn't feel like I would enjoy her. I felt like she didn't like me. This signal where you just have to act and end it or else be suckered into shit and feel ever worse. At least that's the way with me. The weird thing was, she argued that she didn't want to leave. Sure, then she agreed to the terms and wanted the money up front. I didn't resist, but I was stupid because I didn't like her. Handed her the money. Tried it. She got all mechanical before we were even caressing she already reached to unpack condom. Suddenly kissing wasn't allowed. And she couldn't stand my gaze. So it was the real bummer. But strange thing she didn't want to leave. That I rejected her upset her like crazy. And she started an argument. I thought boy what a ridiculous situation! You pay a girl for arguing with you! (You could call that a GFE or another kind, haha!) Finally I ushered her out. Feeling better alone than with an ugly cold fish in bed.

Now I do have a history of bad experiences. I really learn that I am just not the quick monger. I need that chemistry, that slowness, that kissing and GFE stuff. Shit, I wish I could teach myself the other way, but I always fail in that. However, just my last day in Rio I had one over who I didn't really like physically either, but she was nice, and being nice makes such a huge difference. Now that thing tonight was horrible. While the nice chick messaged me. Even that was funny, I had to turn off the chat with the sympathic chica in order to try an encounter with a cold fish. Weird!

So tomorrow I have another one from photoprepagos planned for the two remaining days I have here. We will see how that goes. There is always the risk they are cute on the messaging and get mechanical when in person. That chemistry again. I hope it will work out. I had good experiences with that scheme.

Some pricing intelligence: amanhecida is not really the same as TLN, because they intend to end it early. This terrible Paola chick had thought that amanhecida would end at 3 am. I go like what? The whole point is that you take it slow in the morning and do it when you wake up naturally at 6 am or so. Such amanhecida goes for 250 k. Some quote 600 k. I got a 24 hours for 600 k from a very good looking girl (that is, if she hasn't crippled her hair as so many girls are doing around the world.

[YippieKayay]

Its full monger mode for me. Just arrived and did all the usual first day crap like stocking up on booze, toiletries and what not. Lleras is not too busy. Gusto has about a half a dozen prepagos. A couple of them pretty aggressive.

I lined up two dates tomorrow. Both agreed to 150 k. One at 10 am and one at 1 pm. I only fucked up by getting a hotel room this time but I will see how they react.

So I guess 150 k is totally normal pricing. I always thought 200 k was the new price.

[CPlusPlus]

Again, my idea of airbnb, especially if you rent a whole house / apartment is that you basically take ownership, is like when you rent a whole house but you don't own it, you take ownership of the home and can do as you please (except of course damaging the property) again I was not mad that the host kicked me out of her home, I am more pissed of the review and how it will affect me to get future apartments. I like Airbnb and doing the apartment route as opposed to hotel because it is a lot more private, I cam yes bring pros without raising as much eyebrows as I would at a busy hotel, also being able to smoke pot in peace as many hotels don't allow smoking, far less with mariguana. So yeah, hopefully I will still be able to rent apartments through airbnb if not I guess I will have to make a second account or something like that.

[JjBee62]

I don't know if you are being argumentative just to engage in an argument, or if you don't understand comments you and others post. I was responding to your statement that said "You are paying to be a guest in someone's home. " The original poster said he and his buddy rented an entire apartment, so it was not the host's home. It does not matter if the host lived next door, the same city, or the same continent, the host was not living in that apartment so it was not her home. The situation being discussed did not involve the original poster being a guest in someone's home.

There's a third possibility. Maybe you don't understand. I'll try to use small words.

If you own a home and you rent that home to another person, they are a guest in your home. If you live in a different home, they are still a guest in your home. If you live in another city or another country, they are still a guest in your home. No matter how many homes you own, each one is your home and each person staying in each home is a guest in your home.

Are you still with me?

Most AirBnB hosts own only a few rental properties. Many live nearby, others are renting properties that they inherited from family members. Many others are just faceless investors. No matter what their connection to the property, they have an interest in what goes on there. What happens there can affect their income. It can affect their reputation. It can affect their friendships.

Because guest behavior can affect the owner, the owner has rules. Some have lots of rules. Some have few rules. Some have rules that aren't written because they don't think anyone will break those rules. Their home, their rules, their rights.

Those rules don't disappear because the owner is 1000 miles away. Those rules don't change when the owner is sleeping, or during a full moon. Those rules the guest is expected to respect.

Have I lost you yet?

A person with some sense should question their own behavior. You should ask yourself "how will other people feel about my activities?" Most of us do this. We don't pick up a prostitute and bring her home for Christmas dinner. We know that certain behavior needs to be kept from the eyes of friends and family.

Why do people, when they travel to another country, suddenly assume that all the hidden behavior is now perfectly okay? Why is the AirBnB host a bad person because they won't allow things that you won't allow in your own home?

Colombia (and many other places) is a great country. You can have a great time. Beautiful places, beautiful women and the prices are very reasonable. You can have a great time and still treat the people who live here with respect.

If each monger who came to Colombia showed respect for the people there wouldn't be a "say no to sex tourism" campaign, there would be a lot less issues and everyone would have a better time.

[Knowledge]

The carrera 46 address is accurate. The place is also known as "Andromeda". It's pretty good, they usually have a tout out front to grab guys headed toward Zandaly around the corner. It's two steep flights up from the street so it might be a problem for some.

Casa de Fantasia.

Calle 57 # 50-19.

Medellin.

Fantasia.

Cra 46 # 57 A-21.

Medellin.

Not sure how current that list is though.

[Knowledge]

Different strokes for different folks.

While according to my standards and generally speaking colombianas are prettier dominicanas have better bodies, more curves. Dominicanas are more expressive while colombianas are more sophisticated. My first experience with colombianas was years ago inside Campo Alegre in Curaao. I sampled four pretty colombianas during my short cruise ship stop and got interested in visiting the country. Still I can't rank colombianas or Dominicanas better than the others since my experience was satisfying in both countries.

[BoricuaOnline]

Great report as usual BO, but you know I have to do it to you. Colombia or DR?

While according to my standards and generally speaking colombianas are prettier dominicanas have better bodies, more curves. Dominicanas are more expressive while colombianas are more sophisticated. My first experience with colombianas was years ago inside Campo Alegre in Curaçao. I sampled four pretty colombianas during my short cruise ship stop and got interested in visiting the country. Still I can't rank colombianas or Dominicanas better than the others since my experience was satisfying in both countries.

[Fun Luvr]

Yet, the post that started this conversation involved an AirBnB owner who did live in the same city (Bogota). So, it is exactly the situation being discussed.

I don't know if you are being argumentative just to engage in an argument, or if you don't understand comments you and others post. I was responding to your statement that said "You are paying to be a guest in someone's home. " The original poster said he and his buddy rented an entire apartment, so it was not the host's home. It does not matter if the host lived next door, the same city, or the same continent, the host was not living in that apartment so it was not her home. The situation being discussed did not involve the original poster being a guest in someone's home.

[Stinky Squid]

So, I made it to Medellin.

I never managed to book at Hotel M, because they are kind of incapable. I sent email and when I wanted to confirm they didn't reply back. Then I called and the guy told me to send email. Then someone called me back on my voicemail and whatever.

Another member recommended I try Hotel Kong at Calle 55 x Carrera 43, centro. This is a love hotel that you can book on Booking dot com. I booked that super cheap. I think they only do during the week not on weekends. This here is not comparable with the Brazilian motel. I never understand why they wouldn't put the full mirror set around the bed. But my room has a bathtub / Jacuzzi right here. The place can be loud as they have full sound systems in every room. When I came in one guy was doing it and it sounded like a disco was going on at that side of the building.

I am only here as a fall-back option. But it gave me the chance to scout out downtown. During the day time and early evening it is how downtowns are, lots of shopping and open air markets. In the early evening the whole place turns into a brothel it seems. Tons of chicas walking and standing idly about. Most of them leave me with disgust though. I tried to get turned on, but I have a hard time. Even in Panama at Habano's Cafe, the way the putas are presenting themselves is turning me off. Because it's all so fake. Once you are with them and you haven't specified everything exactly the nagging and negating starts. No interest. The street lingering ones are annoying and really ruin their own business. Because they stand in group and when you want to get a better view of one, the others get in the way. And when they start hollering at me, that gives me the rest for me to just walk away.

I saw a very curious scheme around the Museum park. There are really young ones who "sell lollipops" obviously it is about chuipeta. There was one girl who got my attention and I started to want her. Cute face and now I am thinking she might even have been some months pregnant. I approached her and asked what she is "offering" with those lollipops. Unfortunately again the others barged in and ruined it with lewd talking. I asked that girl what her age was, she replied 18. My next question would have been if she could prove it. But all that annoying gacking of the others turned me off and I walked away. I am sure with those lollipop girls you need to check the papers three times and do have the hotel check them too. It might even be a trap as they seemed to approach particularly older men. Oh, I forgot, when I looked in the girl's face up close I got turned off. May be without the other's gacking I could have appreciated the strange traces as exotic, but it was to tense a situation.

That is the problem there, you can't really sit down and drink a beer while watching the girls go by. You have to walk around. Everyone is walking around, I saw some other nervous gringos on the hunt.

I didn't feel unsafe at all, but then I am a lot in Rio and to me Medellin and Bogota appear well more civilized, almost European. The country side of Medellin is beautiful by the way, as you come down from the airport, it is like you drive through Switzerland. Oh yes, and the airport bus was very convenient. I just took the one to Centro until the final stop, and then hopped into a Taxi for the last mile to Hotel Kong.

Now I am resting and later will check out Fase Dos and Luna Lunera. Just to have seen it once. My goa ls to bring a girl back for the night to use the jacuzzi and like I said, I want to have one in my bed every night. I love to wake up to a warm and soft girl.

For the rest of my days I have lined up a multi day blind date. Unfortunately I didn't take the time to plan it out earlier so it failed because of last minute. My style is being picked up from the airport. That failed. But now I have that girl locked down for the rest of the 3 nights until I leave. I dunno, I suck like that. I am not good with the short time, I enjoy more something steady. We'll see how it goes with her.

[JjBee62]

Almost all, if not all, of the airbnb's guys on this site are renting are not someone's home. They are apartments specifically for short-term rentals. Many of the owners don't even live in the city where the apartment is located. I can understand your POV if someone is renting a room from the residents of the apartment / house, but that is not the situation being discussed.

Yet, the post that started this conversation involved an AirBnB owner who did live in the same city (Bogota). So, it is exactly the situation being discussed.

I assume you've been in a hotel. Do you know who stays in hotels? Travelers. They are there for a few days or weeks and then they are gone. The people paying for the rooms are constantly changing. While they might write a bad review, their effect on the hotel is minimal, especially a large, established hotel with hundreds of reviews. The hotel probably has a guest policy, but it's not a big deal.

Have you ever lived in a condo or townhouse? Almost all the residents are there for many years. They don't move to a new apartment every 6 to 10 days. If there are 4 or 5 short term rentals in a building of 100 apartments, the short term owners are grossly outnumbered. The other residents have the power to cause serious problems. If you own those 4 apartments and the administration is pressured to require 3 month minimum leases for any rental units, or administration fees are raised for short term rentals, or they charge a fee to register short term renters, your AirBnB investment just went south.

If you continue to say "fuck you" to the AirBnB hosts, you and everyone else who wants to bring someone back, will lose that option.

It's not difficult. Ask first. If you ask first you don't get a bad renter review. If you ask first you don't find out that the girl you're ready to fuck isn't getting in to the building. If you ask first you don't end up paying for another taxi and a short time hotel and another taxi and an extra tip for the girl because you wasted 30 minutes arguing with security.

If you ask first you don't cause another AirBnB host to refuse to rent to gringos because they don't respect the owner's rules.

[Wolf662]

There is a MP in centro named Fantasia according to this link. http://colombia.adultsearch.com/mede.../fantasia/2063.

Casa de Fantasia.

Calle 57 # 50-19.

Medellin.

Fantasia.

Cra 46 # 57 A-21.

Medellin.

Not sure how current that list is though.

[Fun Luvr]

... AirBnB isn't just a rental. You are paying to be a guest in someone's home. As a guest, if you want to do something that is not normally accepted behavior, it's your responsibility to ask the host. If you crap on people's floor, they have a right to be upset, even if they never said "don't crap on the floor. ".

Almost all, if not all, of the airbnb's guys on this site are renting are not someone's home. They are apartments specifically for short-term rentals. Many of the owners don't even live in the city where the apartment is located. I can understand your POV if someone is renting a room from the residents of the apartment / house, but that is not the situation being discussed.

[JjBee62]

Do you mean you will not bring a girl into the building if she looks like a prepago / hooker?

Define "looks like a prepago. " Some of the models dress very sexy. Even my roommate often wears clothes that would raise a lot of eyebrows in the US. But none of them are prepagos. They are in the building for a purpose: recording video, photo shoot, meeting with one of the bosses who lives in the building, training, or just visiting another model who lives in the building.

What I mean is that I won't bring a prepago into the building. If I'm paying someone for sex, I'm not bringing them home with me. How they look or dress matter.